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by Deborah Anderson

Scotland was in a state of chaos today after being battered by 90mph winds and floods.

Roads were closed, buildings damaged, bridges shut and train lines affected after a night of atrocious weather that saw widespread flooding, flying debris closing streets and people evacuated.

Around 18,000 homes in Lanarkshire, Ayrshire, Inverclyde and Argyll were without power.

ScottishPower said it was hoping engineers would be able to resolve the problem this afternoon.

A train driver was injured after his locomotive hit a tree and a man was rescued after his car plunged into the Firth of Clyde.

More than a fifth of the average monthly rainfall fell in just 12 hours in Glasgow as gusts hit 75mph at their 4am peak. From 6pm, 20mm fell. The average January rainfall is 97mm.

After a torrential night, Strathclyde Fire and Rescue received 180 calls and attended 144 incidents.

The wind blew down the centrepiece of Glasgow City Council's Christmas display when its 60ft tree toppled.

The tree was due to come down today to be transformed into the tallest ornamental caber in the world and donated to New York as a sign of friendship.

In the East End, residents were being warned to stay well away from their windows after a section of the roof of the Great Eastern Hotel, in Duke Street, was blown off.

Residents were not being evacuated, but a police spokesman said: "Duke Street and surrounding areas have been closed.

"We are advising people in Drygate and Hunter Street areas to stay clear of their windows as debris has fallen on to roads and pavements."

Wooden fences at Buchanan Galleries, which had recently been put up while renovation work is carried out, were also blown down.

One man was lucky to be alive after fire crews dragged him out of his car, which had plunged into water off Largs, Ayrshire.

The alarm was raised around 11.30pm with reports of a car careering into the water off Greenock Road, which was then closed between Largs and Skelmorlie.





Fire crews launched their water rescue craft and waded in to rescue the 34-year-old, who was in the freezing water for 10 minutes. He was treated at the scene by paramedics.

Also in Ayrshire, a train driver was taken to Ayr Hospital after his locomotive struck a tree in the early hours.

It was travelling between Kilmarnock and New Cumnock at 3.45am when it struck a tree that had blown on the line.

It smashed through the windshield. He was showered with glass and managed to stop the train 200 yards away.

A spokesman for British Transport Police said the driver was taken for a check-up and he suffered minor injuries.

Five lorries overturned on the M74 between Larkhall and Wellburn, Lanarkshire, in the early hours.

Limits of 30mph were then put in place.

Roads were closed in Glasgow, Paisley and Greenock due to structural damage of buildings or after debris crashed on to streets.

The Erskine Bridge was likely to remain closed for most of the morning.

Businesses and shops in Paisley town centre were virtually inaccessible after a police cordon was put up in the High Street.

From the Regal Bingo at one end to Bar Varsova a few blocks down, the street was considered unsafe due to fallen debris.

Nearby New Street, Storie Street, Causeyside Street and Wellmeadow Street were also affected.

In Greenock, four people were evacuated from the top floor flat of a five-storey building in Campbell Street after part of a gable end gave way around 4am.

A tree blocked Mearns Road in Newton Mearns and a lorry that swerved to avoid it hit power lines.

Rachel Vince, forecaster with the MeteoGroup UK, said: "Gusts will be at their peak again around midday."





CHAOS ON THE MOVE

By Marianne Taylor
THE stormy weather caused transport chaos throughout the West of Scotland today.

Trains, buses, ferries and flights were all disrupted as winds gusted up to 90mph.

Fallen trees and overhead wire damage worsened problems caused by major rail engineering works at Shields Junction.

Services had been due to get back to normal by tomorrow, but thanks to last night's bad weather the misery is likely to continue for longer.

Overturned lorries and debris closed roads and caused major headaches for drivers.

Six flights between Glasgow and London were grounded as a precaution.

And passengers flying in from Toronto were stuck on the tarmac at Glasgow for more than five hours after floodlights and steps were damaged.

Overall, the situation facing travellers was grim:





ON THE RAILWAYS

Services in and out of Paisley Gilmour Street were reduced, and there were also speed restrictions, delays and cancellations.

There were restricted services between Paisley Gilmour Street and Wemyss Bay, Ardrossan, Gourock and Kilwinning due to overhead line damage. No service ran from Kilwinning to Largs.

No services were running between Balloch and Dumbarton due to fallen debris.

The service between Glasgow and Edinburgh was down to every half-hour. Some platforms at Waverley were closed due to fallen debris.

Only one train per hour was running between Paisley Canal and Dumbreck.

ON THE ROADS

Duke Street in Glasgow's East End was shut due to fallen debris.

There was major disruption around Paisley town centre after the High Street was cordoned off.

Part of the M74 was blocked by overturned lorries near Abington.

The Erskine Bridge was closed, as was the A78 between Largs and Skermorlie.

In Glasgow, Aikenhead Road was closed both ways at Calder Street, and North Canal Bank Street were closed between Craighall Road junction and the Borron Street junction.

Cardwell Road in Greenock was shut at Tarbet Street The A71 in Overtown was closed due to flooding.

The B769 Stewarton to Newton Mearns road had restricted access due to a fallen tree.

There were lane restrictions on the M8 at Arkleston.

Traffic lights were out at St Vincent Street/West Nile Street, and St George's Road at Charing Cross.

Kilmardinny Avenue in Bearsden was blocked both ways because of a fallen tree.






ON THE BUSES

First Bus say only a small number of services were affected, including the 40, 41 and 89, which were being diverted due to to the Duke Street closure.

Diversions were being reassessed during the day.

ON THE FERRIES

High winds meant major disruption on many journeys.

The advice was to check in advance with operators.

IN THE AIR

Three BA flights from London to Glasgow were cancelled, along with another three from Glasgow to London.

Around 300 people on an Air Transat flight from Canada couldn't leave the plane after they landed at Glasgow at 6am.

The winds had damaged floodlights, and also steps used to unload passengers.

As it was deemed unsafe to take passengers off, they were stuck in their seats until 11am.

Furious relatives waiting in the terminal claimed they were given no reason for the delay, and police were called in to calm the situation.

Transport operators said they were doing everything possible to keep the network up and running.

A spokeswoman for First ScotRail said: "We have had our emergency teams out from the very early hours of the morning checking for problems.

However, the atrocious weather conditions meant the situation was very fluid, so unfortunately passengers have experienced delays and cancellations.

"We must apologise to our customers."

She also advised passengers travelling today to either check the First website at www.firstgroup.com/scotrail for details or call national rail inquiries on 08457 484950.


Publication date 09/01/08

Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 10:16am Wed 9 Jan 08
Well Stewie G got his wish, The Great Eastern's roof got blown off, now it looks as if its heading for complete demolition (normally this is what happens) with any old building in the city.

You just better watch Stewie that the local HA may still salvage the property.

I think last night was a repeat of the storms last January for which the roof was blown clean off the flimsy new build on Clyde Street (next to St Andrew's Cathedral), for which the scaffolding only came down a couple of months ago after repairs lasting almost the whole year.

Looks like there's another cycle of repairs and rebuilding to do again!

I can only imagine that the winds will get stronger or there will be repeated storms in the years ahead, planners and architects take note - that's if the Evening Times is at your level!
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 10:50am Wed 9 Jan 08
surely these storms are a clear indication of the effects of global warming.....we now seem to experience these at least once a year.
Posted by: John, Glasgow on 11:14am Wed 9 Jan 08
Workinhard

I remember when we had the hurricane in 1968 and 23 people died in Scotland. At that time scientists were saying that we were heading for an ICE AGE .
Global warming is a massive con, it is only an excuse for taxing us.
I travel all around the world and to many of the mega cities and populated countries. After what I have witnessed with my own eyes, it is my opinion that if the UK shut down for 10 years, it would not make a jot of difference to the so called GLOBAL WARMING .
Did you not see the programme on Channel 4 called the "GREAT CARBON SWINDLE"
Did you not see the programme with the worlds leading scientists who also said GLOBAL WARMING IS a con.

Only last week David Bellamy said GLOBAL WARMING was all a con.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:21am Wed 9 Jan 08
It's all 'Gone with the Wind!!'
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 11:24am Wed 9 Jan 08
David Bellamy lost his marbles along time ago!! dont you remember him on that news show a while back???

It was a windy night yet I managed to sleep through it....

my flimsy newbuild didnt let me hear a thing !!

Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 11:30am Wed 9 Jan 08
John

I didn't arrive into this world until 4 years after the 1968 hurricance however my point is that there is an increasing frequency of extreme weather conditions. I am far from being a 'greeny' or 'eco warrior' however do believe that the ignorance shown in your attitude perpetuates the issues which our generation requires to address in order to protect the longer term future for our planet. Yes, there will be cynical views, as everyone is entitled to their opinion however the idea that the Global Warming Issue is simply a revenue/taxation scam is laughable - this matter is being raised and addressed throughout the world, not simply by one or two Goverments who are seeking to increase taxes on their populations.

Posted by: gsteve2001, Glasgow on 11:35am Wed 9 Jan 08
"Five lorries overturned on the M74 between Larkhall and Wellburn, Lanarkshire, in the early hours" - It's be like 'Whiskey Galore' down Larkhall way tonight boy eh!
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 11:40am Wed 9 Jan 08
gsteve2001 wrote:
"Five lorries overturned on the M74 between Larkhall and Wellburn, Lanarkshire, in the early hours" - It's be like 'Whiskey Galore' down Larkhall way tonight boy eh!
simply community 'spirit' in helping to clear the road and alleviate the congestion!
Posted by: Fidelio, Glasgow on 11:41am Wed 9 Jan 08
Workinhard - how to make a fool of yourself in one easy lesson.

You come on here and claim that the storm is more evidence of "global warming" and, when challenged by a more enlightened poster who mentions the 1969 gales, you reply that you weren't born until 4 years after 1969. So how in God's name can you make such a ridiculous comment like "there is an increasing frequency of extreme waether conditions"?

Global warming is indeed a con and, when you have at least a thousand years of data, as opposed to 0+ years of weather watching from your bedroom window, come back and tell us there is something sinister going on.
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 11:44am Wed 9 Jan 08
Fidelio wrote:
Workinhard - how to make a fool of yourself in one easy lesson. You come on here and claim that the storm is more evidence of "global warming" and, when challenged by a more enlightened poster who mentions the 1969 gales, you reply that you weren't born until 4 years after 1969. So how in God's name can you make such a ridiculous comment like "there is an increasing frequency of extreme waether conditions"? Global warming is indeed a con and, when you have at least a thousand years of data, as opposed to 0+ years of weather watching from your bedroom window, come back and tell us there is something sinister going on.
Once you've learnt to spell and quote the correct date etc., come back to me and we'll have the chat about how to make a fool of yourself in one lesson!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:47am Wed 9 Jan 08
Fidelio wrote:
Workinhard - how to make a fool of yourself in one easy lesson. You come on here and claim that the storm is more evidence of "global warming" and, when challenged by a more enlightened poster who mentions the 1969 gales, you reply that you weren't born until 4 years after 1969. So how in God's name can you make such a ridiculous comment like "there is an increasing frequency of extreme waether conditions"? Global warming is indeed a con and, when you have at least a thousand years of data, as opposed to 0+ years of weather watching from your bedroom window, come back and tell us there is something sinister going on.
Ooooooooooooooh! I say!
You gonny take that Sir Workinhard?
This guy has his pinny on, (I wonder if he wears hair curlers too????)
I strongly suspect that there will be a square go at home time!!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:52am Wed 9 Jan 08
aunt sally wrote:
David Bellamy lost his marbles along time ago!! dont you remember him on that news show a while back??? It was a windy night yet I managed to sleep through it.... my flimsy newbuild didnt let me hear a thing !!
I'm surprised it didnay whisk you of to another land - much like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz!
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 12:08pm Wed 9 Jan 08
workinhard wrote:
surely these storms are a clear indication of the effects of global warming.....we now seem to experience these at least once a year.
Just because we get a breeze once in a while,isn't an indication of so called global warming,Which we know is going to turn out the biggest money making scheme ever.What do the Eco-maniacs base their evidence on!! A few mild winters,some natural, melting of ice caps.they seem to blame everything on "global warming"In a few years time their views will be akin to the flat earth believers!!!...
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 12:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
The Missing City wrote:
aunt sally wrote: David Bellamy lost his marbles along time ago!! dont you remember him on that news show a while back??? It was a windy night yet I managed to sleep through it.... my flimsy newbuild didnt let me hear a thing !!
I'm surprised it didnay whisk you of to another land - much like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz!
Ground floor aswell !! holding up the rest of the ones above me !!
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 12:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Fidelio wrote:
Workinhard - how to make a fool of yourself in one easy lesson. You come on here and claim that the storm is more evidence of "global warming" and, when challenged by a more enlightened poster who mentions the 1969 gales, you reply that you weren't born until 4 years after 1969. So how in God's name can you make such a ridiculous comment like "there is an increasing frequency of extreme waether conditions"? Global warming is indeed a con and, when you have at least a thousand years of data, as opposed to 0+ years of weather watching from your bedroom window, come back and tell us there is something sinister going on.
Global warming a con!!! is that just like passive smoking gives you cancer ???
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:15pm Wed 9 Jan 08
aunt sally wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
aunt sally wrote: David Bellamy lost his marbles along time ago!! dont you remember him on that news show a while back??? It was a windy night yet I managed to sleep through it.... my flimsy newbuild didnt let me hear a thing !!
I'm surprised it didnay whisk you of to another land - much like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz!
Ground floor aswell !! holding up the rest of the ones above me !!
Ah you didnay say that, your gaff canny be that flimsy then, at least you have some bricks to hold it down!

Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 12:17pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lolzz well i still didnt hear it, i dont know what all the fuss is about it was a bit of wind !! i get more wind from an indian !
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 12:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
My compost bin took of but the actual compost is still there in the shape of the bin..Sounds like a job for Scooby Doo & Shaggy
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 12:30pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Biffo the bear wrote:
My compost bin took of but the actual compost is still there in the shape of the bin..Sounds like a job for Scooby Doo &amp; Shaggy
hahahah thats sooo funny !! hahahha
Posted by: chstewart, Glasgow on 4:06pm Wed 9 Jan 08
On climate change you might want to read the observations of meteorologists rather than Bellamy, who is not a climate scientist and has based arguments on inaccurate data (http://en.wikipedia
.org/wiki/David_Bell
amy):
http://www.metoffice
.gov.uk/corporate/pr
essoffice/myths/inde
x.html

and as for that programme mentioned:
http://ocean.mit.edu
/~cwunsch/CHANNEL4.h
tml
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 6:06pm Wed 9 Jan 08
What I don't get is how they come to the conclusion that when we had 'the driest July since records began' they blame it on global warming, but then when we get 'a fifth of a months rainfall in just 12 hours' it is still due to global warming? It does beg the question are there any weather conditions possible which wouldn't support this 'global warming' theory? Clearly there aren't, which to my mind weakens any argument that the current weather conditions are proof of global warming. We live in Scotland. The weather is supposed to be crap, especially in January.
Global Warming = Global Taxing!!
Posted by: zathrus, Glasgow on 7:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08
alexparade, Global warming is to do with the average temperature of the planet, thats why its called "Global", and not to a specific country, area, city etc. Global warming is all to do with shifting weather patterns, we now get drier summers and wetter winters (we get far less snow now because its warmer) because of it. Its not a difficult concept.

Global Warming=Global Taxing, not so,for instance encouraging people to be more efficient in their use of energy encourages saving money and decreasing profits of energy companies
Posted by: Fidelio, Glasgow on 7:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Workinhard - the famous January hurricane which killed 23 in the west of Scotland was in 1969, not 1968. How foolish do you feel now?And to respond by picking me up on a typo is the last resort of the beaten man. I still can't get over it though - a man in his early 30s claiming a storm is the sign of global warming. Idiot.
Posted by: Milly, USA on 7:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08
When I start going to Costa Largs on Holiday ,I'll Believe in Global warming
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 8:00pm Wed 9 Jan 08
zathrus wrote:
alexparade, Global warming is to do with the average temperature of the planet, thats why its called "Global", and not to a specific country, area, city etc. Global warming is all to do with shifting weather patterns, we now get drier summers and wetter winters (we get far less snow now because its warmer) because of it. Its not a difficult concept. Global Warming=Global Taxing, not so,for instance encouraging people to be more efficient in their use of energy encourages saving money and decreasing profits of energy companies
Yes, that is the whole point - being energy efficient should save us all money, so how the hell can the governments justify raising taxes due to it? If they installed solar panels in every home in the UK then the problems would be solved. However this would upset the giant energy companies, like Scottish Power, and oil companies, so we will never see renewable energy as the authorities have a vested interest in not allowing it - so they just tax us all more instead!

Anyway, those pictures at the top are quite good, but is that the Matrix building, across the road from SMG, with bits blown off? Do you know how much those flats cost???
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 8:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08
To all you numpties who don't believe in Global Warming - rent the following two DVD's:

An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore
Arctic Tale.
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 8:14pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Well I guess if it's on a DVD, it must be true.. do you happen to know where that big cartoon forest is that Shrek lives in? I've always wanted to go and meet him and donkey..
Posted by: bigcrispyhied, glasgow on 8:19pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Agnes McNab wrote:
To all you numpties who don't believe in Global Warming - rent the following two DVD's: An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore Arctic Tale.
senga,i don't have a dvd player(i live in govanhill) are they on tape.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 8:28pm Wed 9 Jan 08
alexparade: Funny numpty don't you know by now that Shrek lives in Alexander Parade? Just rent the DVD's and get educated - you need it.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 8:36pm Wed 9 Jan 08
bigcrispyhied: You mean to tell me nae DVD Players fell aff a lorry in Govanhill yet? Too bad so sad.
Posted by: Milly, USA on 8:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Agnes McNab wrote:
To all you numpties who don't believe in Global Warming - rent the following two DVD's: An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore Arctic Tale.
They are about as believable as Al.Gore inventing the internet. the mans a nutcase.
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 8:45pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Agnes McNab wrote:
alexparade: Funny numpty don't you know by now that Shrek lives in Alexander Parade? Just rent the DVD's and get educated - you need it.
I have watched a fair few educational DVDs in my time and I can't recall Al Bore featuring in any of them. Still, it's a sad day when watching DVDs passes for 'education.'
And for your information, it's Alexandra parade, actually..
Posted by: bigcrispyhied, glasgow on 8:48pm Wed 9 Jan 08
senga ,i asked a serious question(i don't have a dvd player)but just what are you trying to imply that they 'fall of the back of lorrys' in govanhill>
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 9:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08
To Milly, USA - you are entitled to your opinion but to state "they are as believable as Al Gore" then you must have seen "Arctic Tale" and "Inconvenient Truth" - so what happened to the Polar Bears in Arctic Tale is untrue? I also am entitled to my opinion and it is too bad Al Gore was not ripped off for the Presidency.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 9:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
bigcrispyhied: Please accept my apologies - it was just a joke. I have a sister and a brother who live in Govanhill. I am waiting to hear from my brother if tapes are available there and will get back to you. I know they were making the DVD's available in the libraries in Canada and U.S. because both are educational.
Posted by: bigcrispyhied, glasgow on 9:14pm Wed 9 Jan 08
its o.k senga was only kidding,why don't you go over the border and kick millys ****.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 9:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08
alexparade: You are absolutely correct, it is Alexandra Parade and I trust the beautiful historic buildings sculpted by Scott and Stevenson are still standing. At least rent the documentary Arctic Tale that in itself is an education and an awakener.
Posted by: prather2000, Seattle, USA on 9:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08
aunt sally wrote:
lolzz well i still didnt hear it, i dont know what all the fuss is about it was a bit of wind !! i get more wind from an indian !
haha, love it!
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 9:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08
bigcrispyhied: no, I would rather go to Scotland than visit Bush country.
Posted by: prather2000, Seattle, USA on 9:28pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Agnes McNab wrote:
To Milly, USA - you are entitled to your opinion but to state "they are as believable as Al Gore" then you must have seen "Arctic Tale" and "Inconvenient Truth" - so what happened to the Polar Bears in Arctic Tale is untrue? I also am entitled to my opinion and it is too bad Al Gore was not ripped off for the Presidency.
Too true, now we a stupid **** who has a spending habit to run this country into the ground, Milly must be a republican, which accounts for her stupid **** comments.
Global warming is a fact, just look around, but most dont cause it "doesnt affect them"
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 10:13pm Wed 9 Jan 08
prather2000: I concur.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 10:19pm Wed 9 Jan 08
bigcrispyhied: my brother just e-mailed and could not locate An Inconvenient Truth on PAL tape. Do you have a DVD drive installed in your computer? If so, we could get a copy to you?
Posted by: david on 10:27pm Wed 9 Jan 08
EVENING TIMES! I say name and hame the wind that dun this!

Oh, and ps, your video footage? lol mate.
Posted by: redstar, Dublin on 10:52pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Some people seem to be confused about how global warming may lead to an ice age so I thought I'd try and explain it. Basically in Western Europe we live in a relatively temperate climate due to warm ocean currents. This explains why we are on approximatley the same latitude as Labrador in Canada - yet our climate is much more pleasant.

These ocean currents are driven by dense, salty water. As the climate continues to warm the ice caps on Greenland will melt (as they are already doing so), releasing vast quantities of fresh water into the Atlantic ocean. This would dilute the 'salty' water driving these currents, effectively 'shutting down' the heat transfer system from the tropics. This would then lead to a new ice age - in Europe at least. Ocean floor drilling programs have provided plenty evidence to suggest this has occurred several times in the (relatively)recent past.

As for global warming being a conspiracy, or as someone so eloquently put it 'a con' - I would just like to ask why? There is no doubt that the climate is changing. In recent years we have experienced the warmest and wettest years on record (although I accept that these records are only very recent). I think the question is are we responsible for it?


Posted by: Milly, USA on 2:47am Thu 10 Jan 08
prather2000 wrote:
Agnes McNab wrote: To Milly, USA - you are entitled to your opinion but to state "they are as believable as Al Gore" then you must have seen "Arctic Tale" and "Inconvenient Truth" - so what happened to the Polar Bears in Arctic Tale is untrue? I also am entitled to my opinion and it is too bad Al Gore was not ripped off for the Presidency.
Too true, now we a stupid **** who has a spending habit to run this country into the ground, Milly must be a republican, which accounts for her stupid **** comments. Global warming is a fact, just look around, but most dont cause it "doesnt affect them"
Milly is not a Republican Milly just voted for Obama and Hillary just stole that election .. But then she is Algor's buddy!

global warming is a farce........ MHO
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 9:39am Thu 10 Jan 08
Fidelio wrote:
Workinhard - the famous January hurricane which killed 23 in the west of Scotland was in 1969, not 1968. How foolish do you feel now?And to respond by picking me up on a typo is the last resort of the beaten man. I still can't get over it though - a man in his early 30s claiming a storm is the sign of global warming. Idiot.
Fiddle

My reference to 1968 was in response to the post from John - who assured me he could remember the event first hand - i simply advised that i was born four years later. You're ability to read, understand and provide a competent response is overtaken by your propensity to indulge in cheap attempts to put other down. Have a very careful read at factual content of posts prior to calling people idiots.......however if you wish to lower this to a slanging match then all i have to say is......

YER MAW IS IN FACT YER DA!!

Good day!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 9:48am Thu 10 Jan 08
Fidelio wrote:
Workinhard - the famous January hurricane which killed 23 in the west of Scotland was in 1969, not 1968. How foolish do you feel now?And to respond by picking me up on a typo is the last resort of the beaten man. I still can't get over it though - a man in his early 30s claiming a storm is the sign of global warming. Idiot.
Radnor Park Congregational Church, built in 1910, was completely destroyed and was not rebuilt until 1961. Radnor Park Parish Church, which had opened as a Sunday School in 1886 and became a church in 1895, was badly damaged. It was restored, then burned down during the great storm of January 1968 . Undaunted, the congregation rebuilt the church again.

January 15 1968
Hurricane winds of over 100mph hit Glasgow and the west of Scotland, damaging 250,000 homes, 1,700 homeless and 20 people killed.

1968 - a Year of Disaster

For many people 1968 was a memorable year for all the wrong reasons.
Throughout the night of 15th January and into the early hours of the following morning, Glasgow was battered by hurricane force winds. The storm accounted for the lives of twenty people across central Scotland.
Nine people died in Glasgow, including that of a Port Street resident, who was killed when masonry from a chimneybreast fell through the roof of a tenement. Those who managed to sleep through the storm awoke the following morning to find the atmosphere still heavy with thick grey dust and the streets littered with debris that had been ripped from buildings. So great was the scale of devastation that soldiers from the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders were called to help clear the streets of rubble. The storm left many tenement properties uninhabitable and for many months tarpaulins covered gaping holes in the rooftops. It appeared as though nature was intent on having a hand in hastening the demise of some of Anderston’s old tenement buildings.

I think the above sways it in the favour that 1968 was the year of the great storm in Glasgow.

Fidelio - don't feel stupid, just accept you made a mistake.

Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 10:12am Thu 10 Jan 08
The Missing City -

You font of knowledge!!!!
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 10:25am Thu 10 Jan 08
http://whatdidyouhav
eforlunch.myfreeforu
m.org
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 10:28am Thu 10 Jan 08
aunt sally wrote:
http://whatdidyouhav eforlunch.myfreeforu m.org
Aunt Sally - was that forum created in 1968 or 1969.....if you're not sure, Fidello can advise!
Posted by: hongkongbong, glasgow on 1:27pm Thu 10 Jan 08
People - keep up to date! There is no such thing as 'global warming' any more - That was long since been ditched in favour of the all-encompassing non-specific 'climate change'.
Posted by: hongkongbong, glasgow on 1:28pm Thu 10 Jan 08
sorry that HAS long since....
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