Posted by: betty, thornliebank on 8:44pm Mon 5 Feb 07
i think justin and colin did good to arden they got them grants and when you pass the bit that they improved it looks lovely, they 2 guys went out there way to help people and got nothing but abuse, its just the people that are jelous that complain wish they would do something like that at our bit,keep up the good work you too love u guys
i think justin and colin did good to arden they got them grants and when you pass the bit that they improved it looks lovely, they 2 guys went out there way to help people and got nothing but abuse, its just the people that are jelous that complain wish they would do something like that at our bit,keep up the good work you too love u guys
Posted by: Jen, Govan on 11:18pm Mon 5 Feb 07
Its good to see rappers in Glasgow getting a mention for good things, I remember seeing Eastborn on your front cover because he was getting an ASBO, he and people like Steg dont get the respect they deserve from our newspapers and tv, great to see you cover Steg in a good light, I hope its the first many good coverage of us instead of demonising our boys!
Its good to see rappers in Glasgow getting a mention for good things, I remember seeing Eastborn on your front cover because he was getting an ASBO, he and people like Steg dont get the respect they deserve from our newspapers and tv, great to see you cover Steg in a good light, I hope its the first many good coverage of us instead of demonising our boys!
Posted by: shesbubbled, glasgow on 12:59am Tue 6 Feb 07
[quote][bold]betty[/bold] wrote:
i think justin and colin did good to arden they got them grants and
when you pass the bit that they improved it looks lovely, they 2 guys
went out there way to help people and got nothing but abuse, its just
the people that are jelous that complain wish they would do something
like that at our bit,keep up the good work you too love u guys[/quote] betty dear u have to keep in mind that it is tv, and therefore has been manipulated for viewer intrest and ratings.. a little drama goes alongway if u know what im saying. improving the look of somewhere wont change the fact that many people aroung glasgow cant even afort to heat their homes or eat fresh food, painting someones close may be ok in the short term, but it wont help with the real social problems that are going on in scotland.. its a very small facelift !!!!!
betty wrote:
i think justin and colin did good to arden they got them grants and
when you pass the bit that they improved it looks lovely, they 2 guys
went out there way to help people and got nothing but abuse, its just
the people that are jelous that complain wish they would do something
like that at our bit,keep up the good work you too love u guys
betty dear u have to keep in mind that it is tv, and therefore has been manipulated for viewer intrest and ratings.. a little drama goes alongway if u know what im saying. improving the look of somewhere wont change the fact that many people aroung glasgow cant even afort to heat their homes or eat fresh food, painting someones close may be ok in the short term, but it wont help with the real social problems that are going on in scotland.. its a very small facelift !!!!!
Posted by: E, Glasgow on 8:12am Tue 6 Feb 07
[quote][bold]shesbubbled[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]betty[/bold] wrote: i think justin and colin did good to arden they got them grants and when you pass the bit that they improved it looks lovely, they 2 guys went out there way to help people and got nothing but abuse, its just the people that are jelous that complain wish they would do something like that at our bit,keep up the good work you too love u guys[/quote] betty dear u have to keep in mind that it is tv, and therefore has been manipulated for viewer intrest and ratings.. a little drama goes alongway if u know what im saying. improving the look of somewhere wont change the fact that many people aroung glasgow cant even afort to heat their homes or eat fresh food, painting someones close may be ok in the short term, but it wont help with the real social problems that are going on in scotland.. its a very small facelift !!!!! [/quote] betty has got a point, although I did not watch every episode I saw bits of it and those bits I did see had the children cursing and playing up for the cameras, just because the program makers decided to show this does not mean that Colin and Justin where taking advantage and showing the "best/worst" bits. the children should have been more well behaved, acting up for the cameras is one thing but their behaviour for the cameras was just disgusting and unacceptable and this was not Colin and Justin's doing it is the familes allowing this behaviour to happen. I do think that the lid has been lifted on the behaviour of these young people and the people of Arden do not like the look of it. But are they going to blame themselves - I think not.
shesbubbled wrote:
betty wrote: i think justin and colin did good to arden they got them grants and when you pass the bit that they improved it looks lovely, they 2 guys went out there way to help people and got nothing but abuse, its just the people that are jelous that complain wish they would do something like that at our bit,keep up the good work you too love u guys
betty dear u have to keep in mind that it is tv, and therefore has been manipulated for viewer intrest and ratings.. a little drama goes alongway if u know what im saying. improving the look of somewhere wont change the fact that many people aroung glasgow cant even afort to heat their homes or eat fresh food, painting someones close may be ok in the short term, but it wont help with the real social problems that are going on in scotland.. its a very small facelift !!!!!
betty has got a point, although I did not watch every episode I saw bits of it and those bits I did see had the children cursing and playing up for the cameras, just because the program makers decided to show this does not mean that Colin and Justin where taking advantage and showing the "best/worst" bits. the children should have been more well behaved, acting up for the cameras is one thing but their behaviour for the cameras was just disgusting and unacceptable and this was not Colin and Justin's doing it is the familes allowing this behaviour to happen. I do think that the lid has been lifted on the behaviour of these young people and the people of Arden do not like the look of it. But are they going to blame themselves - I think not.
Posted by: allofus on 8:57am Tue 6 Feb 07
Colin and Justin went to Arden with good honest intentions, "at we care enough to come down here and try and do something about it" i think Justine said. To say a lick paint wont change things in Arden is true but also misses the point having respect for where you leave leads to confidence that helps improves the quality of life, self respect and ambition.
It is not good enough to say 'why should i/we take care of my community because others don't,' thats what leads to an acceptance of vandalism and crime. And anyway are people saying the place better before they came, i think not.
Colin and Justin went to Arden with good honest intentions, "at we care enough to come down here and try and do something about it" i think Justine said. To say a lick paint wont change things in Arden is true but also misses the point having respect for where you leave leads to confidence that helps improves the quality of life, self respect and ambition.
It is not good enough to say 'why should i/we take care of my community because others don't,' thats what leads to an acceptance of vandalism and crime. And anyway are people saying the place better before they came, i think not.
Posted by: shesbubbled, glasgow on 1:56pm Tue 6 Feb 07
i think the point i was maing was missed. i live in a "scheme" was the typical teen mother bla bla bla.. and ive worked hard to be where i am now what im saying is a lick of paint isnt going to inprove peoples lifes over the long term, nor is some one making their community look bad. the good thing about the above named song is its showing a community and showing the young people who live in that community that they can aspire to be what they want to be as the musicians r from the area and dont come off all patronising. yes i agree that the tv program was made to benifit these people but its [bold]still television and still manipulated[/bold] !!
i think the point i was maing was missed. i live in a "scheme" was the typical teen mother bla bla bla.. and ive worked hard to be where i am now what im saying is a lick of paint isnt going to inprove peoples lifes over the long term, nor is some one making their community look bad. the good thing about the above named song is its showing a community and showing the young people who live in that community that they can aspire to be what they want to be as the musicians r from the area and dont come off all patronising. yes i agree that the tv program was made to benifit these people but its
still television and still manipulated !!
Posted by: i luv C and J on 8:07pm Wed 7 Feb 07
[bold]Colin and Justin are amazing and put all their heart into helping Arden and people should be thankful for that. Basically, i luv them they r gr8!
Colin and Justin are amazing and put all their heart into helping Arden and people should be thankful for that. Basically, i luv them they r gr8!
Posted by: watty, scotlanf on 7:38pm Sat 10 Feb 07
[quote][bold]allofus[/bold] wrote:
Colin and Justin went to Arden with good honest intentions, \"at we care enough to come down here and try and do something about it\" i think Justine said. To say a lick paint wont change things in Arden is true but also misses the point having respect for where you leave leads to confidence that helps improves the quality of life, self respect and ambition.
It is not good enough to say \'why should i/we take care of my community because others don\'t,\' thats what leads to an acceptance of vandalism and crime. And anyway are people saying the place better before they came, i think not.[/quote] Allofus is correct, the schemeis appear to enjoy wallowing in their own mire. Colin and Justin have highlighted the area. Unless the people want to improve their lot then they never will.
If you put pigs in a castle it would still be a pigsty
allofus wrote:
Colin and Justin went to Arden with good honest intentions, \"at we care enough to come down here and try and do something about it\" i think Justine said. To say a lick paint wont change things in Arden is true but also misses the point having respect for where you leave leads to confidence that helps improves the quality of life, self respect and ambition.
It is not good enough to say \'why should i/we take care of my community because others don\'t,\' thats what leads to an acceptance of vandalism and crime. And anyway are people saying the place better before they came, i think not.
Allofus is correct, the schemeis appear to enjoy wallowing in their own mire. Colin and Justin have highlighted the area. Unless the people want to improve their lot then they never will.
If you put pigs in a castle it would still be a pigsty
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