Posted by: Kev, Glasgow on 12:22pm Fri 4 May 07
Please disband the Scottish Parliament - total wast of time, money and manpower.
Voted against it on Day 1 and has yet to prove its worth
Please disband the Scottish Parliament - total wast of time, money and manpower.
Voted against it on Day 1 and has yet to prove its worth
Posted by: Kil Rimin, Glasgow on 1:14pm Fri 4 May 07
What happened to "the great saviour of the working class"....Tommy Sheridan?
What happened to "the great saviour of the working class"....Tommy Sheridan?
Posted by: Andy, Glasgow on 1:41pm Fri 4 May 07
Kev, I'm with you. THey cost us a sodding fortune through there in Edinburgh. Get rid of it!
Kev, I'm with you. THey cost us a sodding fortune through there in Edinburgh. Get rid of it!
Posted by: snoopshug, ipod on 1:57pm Fri 4 May 07
In England they are laughing at us. We can't even organise an election, what chance have we of running our own country.
Guess the union will remain and in fairness at least it's a bit more stable than our shambles of little hitlers.
In England they are laughing at us. We can't even organise an election, what chance have we of running our own country.
Guess the union will remain and in fairness at least it's a bit more stable than our shambles of little hitlers.
Posted by: snoopshug, ipod on 2:02pm Fri 4 May 07
[quote][bold]Kil Rimin[/bold] wrote:
What happened to "the great saviour of the working class"....Tommy Sheridan?[/quote] Sheridan never has been a working class hero. He's always just been in it for himself. He leads a middle class life, had a middle class education and is now raking in a fortune as a celebrity esp in football and comedy circles.
Worse still, when he is on TV it's hard to take him seriously with his false fixed grin and sycophancy to TV presenters.
Sheridan just has a nodding acquaintance with the working class and is now just a performing monkey dancing to the whoever pays hims most in the media.
Total joker.
Kil Rimin wrote:
What happened to "the great saviour of the working class"....Tommy Sheridan?
Sheridan never has been a working class hero. He's always just been in it for himself. He leads a middle class life, had a middle class education and is now raking in a fortune as a celebrity esp in football and comedy circles.
Worse still, when he is on TV it's hard to take him seriously with his false fixed grin and sycophancy to TV presenters.
Sheridan just has a nodding acquaintance with the working class and is now just a performing monkey dancing to the whoever pays hims most in the media.
Total joker.
Posted by: Tiny, glasgow on 2:16pm Fri 4 May 07
I THINK THIS IS A SCANDEL ABOUT THE VOTES? IM NOT SO SURE IT IS US SCOTTISH WHO MUCKED UP. THIS COULD WORK WELL FOR US IN THE END? AS FOR SURE WE HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN! SO COME ON SCOTLAND VOTE FOR SNP AND ALL YOU WHO DID NOT USE YOUR VOTE USE IT. OK MAYBE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF WORK TO GET OUR COUNTRY UP AND RUNNING BUT HELL IT WILL BE GREAT IN THE LONG RUN FOR OUR FUTUR. AS FOR BEING A COUNTRY WITH OIL? ITS NORMAL ENGLAND DOES NOT WANT US TO PART. THEY ARE NOT FOR THE GREAT BRITON THING? THEY ARE FOR WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM US. SO LETS PUT AN END TO THAT HISTORY WITH THEM AND BUILD A GREAT HISTORY FOR THE FUTURE STARTING WITH THE INDEPENDANTS
I THINK THIS IS A SCANDEL ABOUT THE VOTES? IM NOT SO SURE IT IS US SCOTTISH WHO MUCKED UP. THIS COULD WORK WELL FOR US IN THE END? AS FOR SURE WE HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN! SO COME ON SCOTLAND VOTE FOR SNP AND ALL YOU WHO DID NOT USE YOUR VOTE USE IT. OK MAYBE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF WORK TO GET OUR COUNTRY UP AND RUNNING BUT HELL IT WILL BE GREAT IN THE LONG RUN FOR OUR FUTUR. AS FOR BEING A COUNTRY WITH OIL? ITS NORMAL ENGLAND DOES NOT WANT US TO PART. THEY ARE NOT FOR THE GREAT BRITON THING? THEY ARE FOR WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM US. SO LETS PUT AN END TO THAT HISTORY WITH THEM AND BUILD A GREAT HISTORY FOR THE FUTURE STARTING WITH THE INDEPENDANTS
Posted by: pmac, Glasgow on 2:20pm Fri 4 May 07
The system for counting votes may be a shambles but to see that in anyway as a blueprint for Scotland becoming an indepoendent country is plain stupid. The point I'd like to make though is how we are currently supposed to be living in as democratic United Kingdom and that this was seemingly interrupted by most of the tabloid press siding with the Labour Party line yesterday. I was disgusted by The Record, Sun, Express yesterday and their scare tactics aimed at floating voters. Ashamed to be Scottish reading that....democracy?
The system for counting votes may be a shambles but to see that in anyway as a blueprint for Scotland becoming an indepoendent country is plain stupid. The point I'd like to make though is how we are currently supposed to be living in as democratic United Kingdom and that this was seemingly interrupted by most of the tabloid press siding with the Labour Party line yesterday. I was disgusted by The Record, Sun, Express yesterday and their scare tactics aimed at floating voters. Ashamed to be Scottish reading that....democracy?
Posted by: Elmo on 2:58pm Fri 4 May 07
[quote][bold]Tiny[/bold] wrote:
I THINK THIS IS A SCANDEL ABOUT THE VOTES? IM NOT SO SURE IT IS US SCOTTISH WHO MUCKED UP. THIS COULD WORK WELL FOR US IN THE END? AS FOR SURE WE HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN! SO COME ON SCOTLAND VOTE FOR SNP AND ALL YOU WHO DID NOT USE YOUR VOTE USE IT. OK MAYBE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF WORK TO GET OUR COUNTRY UP AND RUNNING BUT HELL IT WILL BE GREAT IN THE LONG RUN FOR OUR FUTUR. AS FOR BEING A COUNTRY WITH OIL? ITS NORMAL ENGLAND DOES NOT WANT US TO PART. THEY ARE NOT FOR THE GREAT BRITON THING? THEY ARE FOR WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM US. SO LETS PUT AN END TO THAT HISTORY WITH THEM AND BUILD A GREAT HISTORY FOR THE FUTURE STARTING WITH THE INDEPENDANTS[/quote] The best advert for not voting SNP I have read yet.
'Caps Lock' is on the left.
Tiny wrote:
I THINK THIS IS A SCANDEL ABOUT THE VOTES? IM NOT SO SURE IT IS US SCOTTISH WHO MUCKED UP. THIS COULD WORK WELL FOR US IN THE END? AS FOR SURE WE HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN! SO COME ON SCOTLAND VOTE FOR SNP AND ALL YOU WHO DID NOT USE YOUR VOTE USE IT. OK MAYBE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF WORK TO GET OUR COUNTRY UP AND RUNNING BUT HELL IT WILL BE GREAT IN THE LONG RUN FOR OUR FUTUR. AS FOR BEING A COUNTRY WITH OIL? ITS NORMAL ENGLAND DOES NOT WANT US TO PART. THEY ARE NOT FOR THE GREAT BRITON THING? THEY ARE FOR WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM US. SO LETS PUT AN END TO THAT HISTORY WITH THEM AND BUILD A GREAT HISTORY FOR THE FUTURE STARTING WITH THE INDEPENDANTS
The best advert for not voting SNP I have read yet.
'Caps Lock' is on the left.
Posted by: Jill Ferguson, Glasgow on 3:39pm Fri 4 May 07
This Election has yet again proved to be the farce it threatened to be! No single party is worth the paper it's written on or worth the lies and hypocrisy that spouts from its candidates or elected members mouths.
UKIP got one thing right - Sack them all!
As for Tommy Sheri"tan" From the Republic of Pollokuba, as so nicely put by our friend Jonathan Watson his reign is well and truly over. And the internal party split along with his smaug level of arrogance and self satisfaction in the campaigning of "Solidarity" - Sorry who ? has seen his downfall.
Lets just hope to goodness that SNP in all their triumpalism don't get ahead of themselves and jump in feet first with their policy changes and shake up before a serious time out spell to think through where we go from now. Politics is a mugs game, and theres plenty to choose from in todays game.
Lets just not see the same mistakes made time and time again, to the detriment of us the electorate and people so many of whom voted the Nationalist's in.
This Election has yet again proved to be the farce it threatened to be! No single party is worth the paper it's written on or worth the lies and hypocrisy that spouts from its candidates or elected members mouths.
UKIP got one thing right - Sack them all!
As for Tommy Sheri"tan" From the Republic of Pollokuba, as so nicely put by our friend Jonathan Watson his reign is well and truly over. And the internal party split along with his smaug level of arrogance and self satisfaction in the campaigning of "Solidarity" - Sorry who ? has seen his downfall.
Lets just hope to goodness that SNP in all their triumpalism don't get ahead of themselves and jump in feet first with their policy changes and shake up before a serious time out spell to think through where we go from now. Politics is a mugs game, and theres plenty to choose from in todays game.
Lets just not see the same mistakes made time and time again, to the detriment of us the electorate and people so many of whom voted the Nationalist's in.
Posted by: alan, glasgow on 3:45pm Fri 4 May 07
What actually constitutes a spoilt paper? i know some people would deliberatly graffiti over their ballot papers, then it was spoilt, but with the confusion of what paper is for what election, its pretty frustrating.
with all of the kerfuffle over spoilt papers. It would be easier to to
a) give the electorate ONE ballot paper and STILPULATE that it is either marked with a cross or a number.
b) or better still, introduce electronic voting, or voting from the internet, interactive tv or phone voting - but ensure that each individual has a unique key number to enter into whilst voting, thus to ensure that there is no multiple voting (this aint pop idol or x factor you know)
What actually constitutes a spoilt paper? i know some people would deliberatly graffiti over their ballot papers, then it was spoilt, but with the confusion of what paper is for what election, its pretty frustrating.
with all of the kerfuffle over spoilt papers. It would be easier to to
a) give the electorate ONE ballot paper and STILPULATE that it is either marked with a cross or a number.
b) or better still, introduce electronic voting, or voting from the internet, interactive tv or phone voting - but ensure that each individual has a unique key number to enter into whilst voting, thus to ensure that there is no multiple voting (this aint pop idol or x factor you know)
Posted by: Take a pill Jill, Ferguslie on 3:49pm Fri 4 May 07
[quote][bold]Jill Ferguson[/bold] wrote:
This Election has yet again proved to be the farce it threatened to be! No single party is worth the paper it's written on or worth the lies and hypocrisy that spouts from its candidates or elected members mouths. UKIP got one thing right - Sack them all! As for Tommy Sheri"tan" From the Republic of Pollokuba, as so nicely put by our friend Jonathan Watson his reign is well and truly over. And the internal party split along with his smaug level of arrogance and self satisfaction in the campaigning of "Solidarity" - Sorry who ? has seen his downfall. Lets just hope to goodness that SNP in all their triumpalism don't get ahead of themselves and jump in feet first with their policy changes and shake up before a serious time out spell to think through where we go from now. Politics is a mugs game, and theres plenty to choose from in todays game. Lets just not see the same mistakes made time and time again, to the detriment of us the electorate and people so many of whom voted the Nationalist's in. [/quote] what a load of cliched tripe you write...are you Watson's scriptwriter? Neither funny nor relative your post is pointless and inaccurate. It's not even worthy of the title commentary.
I can't believe I'm even responding but hey maybe it will educate you.
Jill Ferguson wrote:
This Election has yet again proved to be the farce it threatened to be! No single party is worth the paper it's written on or worth the lies and hypocrisy that spouts from its candidates or elected members mouths. UKIP got one thing right - Sack them all! As for Tommy Sheri"tan" From the Republic of Pollokuba, as so nicely put by our friend Jonathan Watson his reign is well and truly over. And the internal party split along with his smaug level of arrogance and self satisfaction in the campaigning of "Solidarity" - Sorry who ? has seen his downfall. Lets just hope to goodness that SNP in all their triumpalism don't get ahead of themselves and jump in feet first with their policy changes and shake up before a serious time out spell to think through where we go from now. Politics is a mugs game, and theres plenty to choose from in todays game. Lets just not see the same mistakes made time and time again, to the detriment of us the electorate and people so many of whom voted the Nationalist's in.
what a load of cliched tripe you write...are you Watson's scriptwriter? Neither funny nor relative your post is pointless and inaccurate. It's not even worthy of the title commentary.
I can't believe I'm even responding but hey maybe it will educate you.
Posted by: mactheknife, Darnley on 3:55pm Fri 4 May 07
[quote][bold]alan[/bold] wrote:
What actually constitutes a spoilt paper? i know some people would deliberatly graffiti over their ballot papers, then it was spoilt, but with the confusion of what paper is for what election, its pretty frustrating. with all of the kerfuffle over spoilt papers. It would be easier to to a) give the electorate ONE ballot paper and STILPULATE that it is either marked with a cross or a number. b) or better still, introduce electronic voting, or voting from the internet, interactive tv or phone voting - but ensure that each individual has a unique key number to enter into whilst voting, thus to ensure that there is no multiple voting (this aint pop idol or x factor you know)[/quote] Apparently the confusion came from ballot papers saying - mark twice. It had two votes going on and people marked it four times.
Stupid? One ballot paper should be for one vote only.
Some bright spark has probably thought, to save people walking to the local school twice why not have two elections on one paper. And now its come back to bite them.
I also heard a nutter with a golf club smashed open ballot boxes and tore up hundreds of ballot papers only for them to me sellotaped together later.
Then finally, I heard loads of votes went into the computer system and the computer didnt register them.
Only in Scotland
alan wrote:
What actually constitutes a spoilt paper? i know some people would deliberatly graffiti over their ballot papers, then it was spoilt, but with the confusion of what paper is for what election, its pretty frustrating. with all of the kerfuffle over spoilt papers. It would be easier to to a) give the electorate ONE ballot paper and STILPULATE that it is either marked with a cross or a number. b) or better still, introduce electronic voting, or voting from the internet, interactive tv or phone voting - but ensure that each individual has a unique key number to enter into whilst voting, thus to ensure that there is no multiple voting (this aint pop idol or x factor you know)
Apparently the confusion came from ballot papers saying - mark twice. It had two votes going on and people marked it four times.
Stupid? One ballot paper should be for one vote only.
Some bright spark has probably thought, to save people walking to the local school twice why not have two elections on one paper. And now its come back to bite them.
I also heard a nutter with a golf club smashed open ballot boxes and tore up hundreds of ballot papers only for them to me sellotaped together later.
Then finally, I heard loads of votes went into the computer system and the computer didnt register them.
Only in Scotland
Posted by: alan, glasgow on 4:59pm Fri 4 May 07
mactheknife, sorry i forgot to include that point in my previous post, 1 ballot paper for 1 vote only. sorry for confusion.
mactheknife, sorry i forgot to include that point in my previous post, 1 ballot paper for 1 vote only. sorry for confusion.
Posted by: Oor_Wullie, ma_bucket on 5:16pm Fri 4 May 07
Noo, if it actually is 150K + votes affected/discounted (cant be bothered working out what percentage of the electorate that is, but it is in no way negligible..), there are no winners in this Farce, only Losers. TIme for a rethink and a retake, methinks, by this level of f-up, has nothing more to do with democracy. Sorry, but the apparent inability to organise wir very ain Brewery ****-Up hardly bodes well for Independence either. WTF is this aw fir a carry-oan, seriously..
Noo, if it actually is 150K + votes affected/discounted (cant be bothered working out what percentage of the electorate that is, but it is in no way negligible..), there are no winners in this Farce, only Losers. TIme for a rethink and a retake, methinks, by this level of f-up, has nothing more to do with democracy. Sorry, but the apparent inability to organise wir very ain Brewery ****-Up hardly bodes well for Independence either. WTF is this aw fir a carry-oan, seriously..
Posted by: Tennscot on 5:25pm Fri 4 May 07
I think they must have taken lessons and used the same equipment as the Bush elections. Same thing happened and some are still calling it Phoney.!!!I Wonder??????
I think they must have taken lessons and used the same equipment as the Bush elections. Same thing happened and some are still calling it Phoney.!!!I Wonder??????
Posted by: Oor_Wullie, ma_bucket on 7:36pm Fri 4 May 07
..naw, ah mean, issit just me, or if we are really gonna use "electronic vote-counting systems", then, lets USE the **** things - how difficult wid it be fir a quick (and private) run-through on a "test" machine reader *before* yi drop in your paper, Green Light says its OK/readable, Red, Do Not Pass Go (or give up..) - Hey Presto! Failure Rate from 10% to under 0.1% in one easy move, still (if necessary) secret, provable, countable, checkable, etc.
Ah mean, such systems huv only worked fir the Lotteries o aboot 50 different countries fir the last twenty years or so, its no as if wir stretchin technology tae its limits here or anything. And, in aw fairness tae the people who designed/built the countin machines/software here, it seems ever-increasingly likely that the designers o the actual ballot papers are the real villians here, aw o whom should be Hung By Their Chads Until They Snap.. Not like they didnae huv time tae consider the matter beforehand, or indeed ideally-wisey test it oot on some unwary punters first, or whatever - make no mistake but, *someones* goolies should be rollin fir this, an nae mistake.
..naw, ah mean, issit just me, or if we are really gonna use "electronic vote-counting systems", then, lets USE the **** things - how difficult wid it be fir a quick (and private) run-through on a "test" machine reader *before* yi drop in your paper, Green Light says its OK/readable, Red, Do Not Pass Go (or give up..) - Hey Presto! Failure Rate from 10% to under 0.1% in one easy move, still (if necessary) secret, provable, countable, checkable, etc.
Ah mean, such systems huv only worked fir the Lotteries o aboot 50 different countries fir the last twenty years or so, its no as if wir stretchin technology tae its limits here or anything. And, in aw fairness tae the people who designed/built the countin machines/software here, it seems ever-increasingly likely that the designers o the actual ballot papers are the real villians here, aw o whom should be Hung By Their Chads Until They Snap.. Not like they didnae huv time tae consider the matter beforehand, or indeed ideally-wisey test it oot on some unwary punters first, or whatever - make no mistake but, *someones* goolies should be rollin fir this, an nae mistake.
Posted by: Davy on 7:48pm Fri 4 May 07
OOr Wullie....you should be in the nearest pub tae Glebe Street right noo celebratin' wi' everybody else in Dundee !
P.S. Tell Paw Broon he still owes me a fiver !
OOr Wullie....you should be in the nearest pub tae Glebe Street right noo celebratin' wi' everybody else in Dundee !
P.S. Tell Paw Broon he still owes me a fiver !
Posted by: Oor_Wullie, ma_bucket on 8:49pm Fri 4 May 07
..raither be on the GWR than Glebe thair right noo Davy, but cheers! anyways, hooever, unfortunately, ahm far away frae both.. ah dunno, take mesel an ma bucket on Holiday furrabit, whit happens, cannae leave yis tae run an *** raffle, sno real.. ahn dont git me stairted on yon Postal Votes noo either.. ;-) Still, dunno whit ahm celebratin, but ahll gie it mah best go likes ;-)
[bold]May Yis Drink Like Yis Wir Born In The Earliest Days O A Better Nation[/bold]
[quote][italic]"P.S. Tell Paw Broon he still owes me a fiver !"[/italic][/quote] - never heard yi thair like ;-) - but ahll gie Daphne yir Best Regards Later aw the same, Slange!
..raither be on the GWR than Glebe thair right noo Davy, but cheers! anyways, hooever, unfortunately, ahm far away frae both.. ah dunno, take mesel an ma bucket on Holiday furrabit, whit happens, cannae leave yis tae run an *** raffle, sno real.. ahn dont git me stairted on yon Postal Votes noo either.. ;-) Still, dunno whit ahm celebratin, but ahll gie it mah best go likes ;-)
May Yis Drink Like Yis Wir Born In The Earliest Days O A Better Nation
"P.S. Tell Paw Broon he still owes me a fiver !"
- never heard yi thair like ;-) - but ahll gie Daphne yir Best Regards Later aw the same, Slange!