Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:38am Thu 11 Oct 07
This situation is a bit of a double edges sword, entrepreneur ( without having met him) Colin Beattie is probably not a great deal better than Stefan King.
But, at least he's stopped Partick, and the West End going downhill, and losing it's character with a seedy, and tacky Weatherspoons chained pub!
Despite their cheaper prices, good value food, and other benefits, Partick is not the place for Weatherspoons. NIMBY'ism this may be. But I'd like to think Partick, Hillhead and The West End have a bit more style than that!
And having individual pubs, with their own separate character, food menu's and design, is far better than the uninspiring, unoriginal Weatherspoons.
In this occassion, Colin Beattie has scored over Stefan King, and that's pretty good in my book!
This situation is a bit of a double edges sword, entrepreneur ( without having met him) Colin Beattie is probably not a great deal better than Stefan King.
But, at least he's stopped Partick, and the West End going downhill, and losing it's character with a seedy, and tacky Weatherspoons chained pub!
Despite their cheaper prices, good value food, and other benefits, Partick is not the place for Weatherspoons. NIMBY'ism this may be. But I'd like to think Partick, Hillhead and The West End have a bit more style than that!
And having individual pubs, with their own separate character, food menu's and design, is far better than the uninspiring, unoriginal Weatherspoons.
In this occassion, Colin Beattie has scored over Stefan King, and that's pretty good in my book!
Posted by: skinnymalinky, Glasgow on 12:13pm Thu 11 Oct 07
who cares...you still need a bank loan to buy a round in it whether it's called the byre or 500. as long as Tennents bar and the aragon are never bought by these 'entrepreneurs'.
who cares...you still need a bank loan to buy a round in it whether it's called the byre or 500. as long as Tennents bar and the aragon are never bought by these 'entrepreneurs'.
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 1:52pm Thu 11 Oct 07
depends what he does with it
mr king bought russells in byres road a efw years ago and nothing really changed that much in it
the beers still flat
depends what he does with it
mr king bought russells in byres road a efw years ago and nothing really changed that much in it
the beers still flat
Posted by: hugo, south side on 2:39pm Thu 11 Oct 07
[quote] NIMBY'ism this may be. But I'd like to think Partick, Hillhead and The West End have a bit more style than that![/quote]
Unfortunately style doesn't come into it, its all about money. I am sure Anniesland thought it was to posh for a weatherspoons.
I am sick of hearing Mr Kings name these days, seams like he owns everything in sight.
I am sure Mr king wants to use the name 'Byre' for his mega pub which he is developing with his silent partners (glasgow city coooocil) oop did i just say that :-), i need to be less cynical bout these things
NIMBY'ism this may be. But I'd like to think Partick, Hillhead and The West End have a bit more style than that!
Unfortunately style doesn't come into it, its all about money. I am sure Anniesland thought it was to posh for a weatherspoons.
I am sick of hearing Mr Kings name these days, seams like he owns everything in sight.
I am sure Mr king wants to use the name 'Byre' for his mega pub which he is developing with his silent partners (glasgow city coooocil) oop did i just say that :-), i need to be less cynical bout these things
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 3:30pm Thu 11 Oct 07
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
This situation is a bit of a double edges sword, entrepreneur ( without having met him) Colin Beattie is probably not a great deal better than Stefan King. But, at least he's stopped Partick, and the West End going downhill, and losing it's character with a seedy, and tacky Weatherspoons chained pub! Despite their cheaper prices, good value food, and other benefits, Partick is not the place for Weatherspoons. NIMBY'ism this may be. But I'd like to think Partick, Hillhead and The West End have a bit more style than that! And having individual pubs, with their own separate character, food menu's and design, is far better than the uninspiring, unoriginal Weatherspoons. In this occassion, Colin Beattie has scored over Stefan King, and that's pretty good in my book![/quote] Ah well, no cheap and tacky Wetherspoons in Partick then.. plenty of cheap and tacky off-licenses selling booxe to youngsters who consume it in the streets around the bus station though..
People Power wrote:
This situation is a bit of a double edges sword, entrepreneur ( without having met him) Colin Beattie is probably not a great deal better than Stefan King. But, at least he's stopped Partick, and the West End going downhill, and losing it's character with a seedy, and tacky Weatherspoons chained pub! Despite their cheaper prices, good value food, and other benefits, Partick is not the place for Weatherspoons. NIMBY'ism this may be. But I'd like to think Partick, Hillhead and The West End have a bit more style than that! And having individual pubs, with their own separate character, food menu's and design, is far better than the uninspiring, unoriginal Weatherspoons. In this occassion, Colin Beattie has scored over Stefan King, and that's pretty good in my book!
Ah well, no cheap and tacky Wetherspoons in Partick then.. plenty of cheap and tacky off-licenses selling booxe to youngsters who consume it in the streets around the bus station though..
Posted by: yabass, Norfolk, Virginia, USA on 3:51pm Thu 11 Oct 07
boycott the bars....Beattie's and King's! put your money where your mouth is....
for example: go check out King's website and see where [bold]NOT[/bold] to go!!
these guys are all about money and that is the only way you'll make them take note....
boycott the bars....Beattie's and King's! put your money where your mouth is....
for example: go check out King's website and see where
NOT to go!!
these guys are all about money and that is the only way you'll make them take note....
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 4:03pm Thu 11 Oct 07
[quote]This situation is a bit of a double edges sword, [bold]entrepreneur ( without having met him) Colin Beattie[/bold] is probably not a great deal better than Stefan King.[/quote]
There are many midlle-aged/older Glaswegians who remember the name of Colin (Coley) Beattie and would regard the term "entrepeneur" as joke. That "might" be how heis seen nowadays but it certainly isn't how he made his money.
This situation is a bit of a double edges sword, entrepreneur ( without having met him) Colin Beattie is probably not a great deal better than Stefan King.
There are many midlle-aged/older Glaswegians who remember the name of Colin (Coley) Beattie and would regard the term "entrepeneur" as joke. That "might" be how heis seen nowadays but it certainly isn't how he made his money.
Posted by: daz, glasgow on 5:01pm Thu 11 Oct 07
yah bass, thanks but as a grown up i'll make my own choice.
i regularly go to the grosvenor cinema. You tend not to get the neds and screaming sengas there so it's a much better experience.
Betcha the grosvenor cinema was a real kick in the teeth for 'team anti-king' as the place has been very well restored after so many years of decay.
yah bass, thanks but as a grown up i'll make my own choice.
i regularly go to the grosvenor cinema. You tend not to get the neds and screaming sengas there so it's a much better experience.
Betcha the grosvenor cinema was a real kick in the teeth for 'team anti-king' as the place has been very well restored after so many years of decay.
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 5:36pm Thu 11 Oct 07
aye, shame the loft's full of wanna be hardmen
scum with money
aye, shame the loft's full of wanna be hardmen
scum with money
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 5:39pm Thu 11 Oct 07
You have to laugh ...
Respect 2 Mr beattie for standing up for the area ...
You have to laugh ...
Respect 2 Mr beattie for standing up for the area ...
Posted by: Paul MacDonald, West End on 5:42pm Thu 11 Oct 07
Many people think SK has too much sway within the council and his 'trademarking'of the words Byre and Bloody Mary is nothing short of childish.Incidentall
y there was a lounge bar everyone knew as the Byre circa 60/70s its now called "Whistler's Mother".I'm against brewer's pubs/chains I hope CB gets his way as his pubs are well run and not at all expensive.Unlike SK's,who also employs youngsters on the minimum wage!
Many people think SK has too much sway within the council and his 'trademarking'of the words Byre and Bloody Mary is nothing short of childish.Incidentall
y there was a lounge bar everyone knew as the Byre circa 60/70s its now called "Whistler's Mother".I'm against brewer's pubs/chains I hope CB gets his way as his pubs are well run and not at all expensive.Unlike SK's,who also employs youngsters on the minimum wage!
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 5:44pm Thu 11 Oct 07
[quote][bold]yabass[/bold] wrote:
boycott the bars....Beattie's and King's! put your money where your mouth is.... for example: go check out King's website and see where [bold]NOT[/bold] to go!! these guys are all about money and that is the only way you'll make them take note....[/quote] your only boycotting them cos you live on the other side of the planet
would be a bugger of a taxi home for you
and of course it's about the money, they are running a business, not a charity
yabass wrote:
boycott the bars....Beattie's and King's! put your money where your mouth is.... for example: go check out King's website and see where NOT to go!! these guys are all about money and that is the only way you'll make them take note....
your only boycotting them cos you live on the other side of the planet
would be a bugger of a taxi home for you
and of course it's about the money, they are running a business, not a charity
Posted by: yabass, Norfolk, Virginia, USA on 7:13pm Thu 11 Oct 07
yerauldda wrote:
'and of course it's about the money, they are running a business, not a charity'
....ummmm, that was my point....
yerauldda wrote:
'and of course it's about the money, they are running a business, not a charity'
....ummmm, that was my point....
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 7:35pm Thu 11 Oct 07
[quote][bold]yabass[/bold] wrote:
boycott the bars....Beattie's and King's! put your money where your mouth is.... for example: go check out King's website and see where [bold]NOT[/bold] to go!! these guys are all about money and that is the only way you'll make them take note....[/quote]
Fully agree here, already boycott a range of places including Tesco, Starbucks, costa, McD's and Oran Mor this new joint!
Never liked the huge multi - national companies with their money grabbing regimes, and no car of their customers whatsoever!
Just a shame we think more about our purse strings, image, or even end up dropping all ethics and morals we ever had when we shop at certain places! Thats life I suppose! And Life sure sucks at this present time!
yabass wrote:
boycott the bars....Beattie's and King's! put your money where your mouth is.... for example: go check out King's website and see where NOT to go!! these guys are all about money and that is the only way you'll make them take note....
Fully agree here, already boycott a range of places including Tesco, Starbucks, costa, McD's and Oran Mor this new joint!
Never liked the huge multi - national companies with their money grabbing regimes, and no car of their customers whatsoever!
Just a shame we think more about our purse strings, image, or even end up dropping all ethics and morals we ever had when we shop at certain places! Thats life I suppose! And Life sure sucks at this present time!
Posted by: Sheena Easton, Glasgow on 8:25pm Thu 11 Oct 07
Mulross wrote:
"There are many midlle-aged/older Glaswegians who remember the name of Colin (Coley) Beattie and would regard the term "entrepeneur" as joke. That "might" be how heis seen nowadays but it certainly isn't how he made his money."
Thanks for the insightful lecture, but I might point out that Colin and "Coley" Beattie aren't the same person. They might be related but what that has to do with the name of a pub, which is what this article is about, I have no idea.
Mulross wrote:
"There are many midlle-aged/older Glaswegians who remember the name of Colin (Coley) Beattie and would regard the term "entrepeneur" as joke. That "might" be how heis seen nowadays but it certainly isn't how he made his money."
Thanks for the insightful lecture, but I might point out that Colin and "Coley" Beattie aren't the same person. They might be related but what that has to do with the name of a pub, which is what this article is about, I have no idea.
Posted by: Paco, Spain on 9:15pm Thu 11 Oct 07
Old Colin was Colin Beatties Dad and was well known and "respected" many moons ago in the Partick, West End , Whiteinch area of Glasgow
Old Colin was Colin Beatties Dad and was well known and "respected" many moons ago in the Partick, West End , Whiteinch area of Glasgow
Posted by: Voodoo, Another Place on 11:02pm Thu 11 Oct 07
There was a "Byre" on Byres Rd in the 60's. If I remember correctly, it was a Reo Stakis joint!
There was a "Byre" on Byres Rd in the 60's. If I remember correctly, it was a Reo Stakis joint!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:42pm Fri 12 Oct 07
And the verdict is ?
Would people generally prefer to eat / drink in Colin Beattie's pubs, over stephan Kings ?
As Paul McDonald, interestingly said:
[italic]"I hope CB gets his way as his pubs are well run and not at all expensive.Unlike SK's,who also employs youngsters on the minimum wage!"[/italic]
Perhaps we should be thinking more about the ethics of pubs / clubs / and restaurant chains as well as the better known Coffee Houses, and Supermarkets, which everybody knows undercuts the suppliers, and growers, with little car for their staff's wages, terms & conditions.
And the verdict is ?
Would people generally prefer to eat / drink in Colin Beattie's pubs, over stephan Kings ?
As Paul McDonald, interestingly said:
"I hope CB gets his way as his pubs are well run and not at all expensive.Unlike SK's,who also employs youngsters on the minimum wage!"
Perhaps we should be thinking more about the ethics of pubs / clubs / and restaurant chains as well as the better known Coffee Houses, and Supermarkets, which everybody knows undercuts the suppliers, and growers, with little car for their staff's wages, terms & conditions.
Posted by: emma, Glasgow on 6:17pm Fri 12 Oct 07
boycott both! Both are overpriced and the service is atrocious in CB and SK venues.
boycott both! Both are overpriced and the service is atrocious in CB and SK venues.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 1:17am Sat 13 Oct 07
Here Here Emma! Glad some of us have our morals and ethics intact, even if the rest of us opt to show off in glitzy, overpriced and upmarket pubs - for what ? The alcohol is the same as any other pub, just far more expensive.
Why give these entrepreneurs any more of our money, especially those against the Botanics proposal by Stefan King. Maybe they should seriously consider if they want to carry on giving him their custom. Bet they never even made that link ? Huh ?
Here Here Emma! Glad some of us have our morals and ethics intact, even if the rest of us opt to show off in glitzy, overpriced and upmarket pubs - for what ? The alcohol is the same as any other pub, just far more expensive.
Why give these entrepreneurs any more of our money, especially those against the Botanics proposal by Stefan King. Maybe they should seriously consider if they want to carry on giving him their custom. Bet they never even made that link ? Huh ?
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