Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:58am Wed 28 Nov 07
Partick doesn't need this - they think they can just walk in and take over wherever they go, they even get to demolish buildings (used or derelict, it doesn't matter, there are regulations in place for this sort of thing - its called blody procedures, which this mob think doesn't apply to them)
Get them tae fcuk! All they want is your money as well as to clog the place up and shut down Dumbarton Road on a permanent basis, must be embarassing for all those Harbour people to shop there, doesn't quite fit the image that Purcell & Co want for that area, well the peole there don't want it - simple as that!
Partick doesn't need this - they think they can just walk in and take over wherever they go, they even get to demolish buildings (used or derelict, it doesn't matter, there are regulations in place for this sort of thing - its called blody procedures, which this mob think doesn't apply to them)
Get them tae fcuk! All they want is your money as well as to clog the place up and shut down Dumbarton Road on a permanent basis, must be embarassing for all those Harbour people to shop there, doesn't quite fit the image that Purcell & Co want for that area, well the peole there don't want it - simple as that!
Posted by: steve4349, larbet on 1:04pm Wed 28 Nov 07
the photos show a bright modern development that will bring jobs and good quality shopping to the area
the photos show a bright modern development that will bring jobs and good quality shopping to the area
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 1:07pm Wed 28 Nov 07
Having signed the petition opposing the development, I received a letter from the Scottish Government the other day informing me they were looking at it. The letter itself is the most bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel I have read in a while.
Is this how planning now operates? Whatever happened to plain english?
Having signed the petition opposing the development, I received a letter from the Scottish Government the other day informing me they were looking at it. The letter itself is the most bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel I have read in a while.
Is this how planning now operates? Whatever happened to plain english?
Posted by: Brendan, Partick, Partick on 2:16pm Wed 28 Nov 07
Steve in Larbert says that the architects photographs show a bright modern development - as you would expect. The reality is this development completely dominates the area and will be completely out of proportion to eveything else in the neighbourhood. It's shadow is so large that it will block daylight from neighbouring homes!
What Tesco's pretty pictures also fail to show is the massive amount of traffic that this huge store will bring to an already traffic-logged area.
This store is simmply not needed and it's only purpose will be to further fill Tescos' shareholders pockets.
Steve in Larbert says that the architects photographs show a bright modern development - as you would expect. The reality is this development completely dominates the area and will be completely out of proportion to eveything else in the neighbourhood. It's shadow is so large that it will block daylight from neighbouring homes!
What Tesco's pretty pictures also fail to show is the massive amount of traffic that this huge store will bring to an already traffic-logged area.
This store is simmply not needed and it's only purpose will be to further fill Tescos' shareholders pockets.
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 2:17pm Wed 28 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
Having signed the petition opposing the development, I received a letter from the Scottish Government the other day informing me they were looking at it. The letter itself is the most bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel I have read in a while. Is this how planning now operates? Whatever happened to plain english?[/quote] in answer to your question - it has generally become bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel!
Fanto wrote:
Having signed the petition opposing the development, I received a letter from the Scottish Government the other day informing me they were looking at it. The letter itself is the most bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel I have read in a while. Is this how planning now operates? Whatever happened to plain english?
in answer to your question - it has generally become bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel!
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 3:02pm Wed 28 Nov 07
[quote][bold]workinhard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: Having signed the petition opposing the development, I received a letter from the Scottish Government the other day informing me they were looking at it. The letter itself is the most bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel I have read in a while. Is this how planning now operates? Whatever happened to plain english?[/quote] in answer to your question - it has generally become bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel![/quote] I just feel that if it is genuinely to be a public inquiry then it should be in language that the public can understand and engage with. Not Civil Service-onian!
workinhard wrote:
Fanto wrote: Having signed the petition opposing the development, I received a letter from the Scottish Government the other day informing me they were looking at it. The letter itself is the most bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel I have read in a while. Is this how planning now operates? Whatever happened to plain english?
in answer to your question - it has generally become bureaucratic, incomprehensible drivel!
I just feel that if it is genuinely to be a public inquiry then it should be in language that the public can understand and engage with. Not Civil Service-onian!
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 3:46pm Wed 28 Nov 07
unfortunately the current planning system does not allow for 'plain english' however the planned reforms intend to address this along with streamlining the entire system to allow proper focus to be given - the proof however, will as always, be in the pudding!
unfortunately the current planning system does not allow for 'plain english' however the planned reforms intend to address this along with streamlining the entire system to allow proper focus to be given - the proof however, will as always, be in the pudding!
Posted by: FMJ, Glasgow on 5:17pm Wed 28 Nov 07
[quote][bold]steve4349[/bold] wrote:
the photos show a bright modern development that will bring jobs and good quality shopping to the area [/quote] Initial artists' impressions of the Scottish Parliament building also showed a 'bright, modern development'. What we ended up with was the aftermath of a drunken one-night stand between a city centre bus station and a Hawaiian theme pub. There appears to be no law that prevents towns and cities from going to bed with a stunning architectural beauty only to wake up with yet another costly monstrosity. Given its track record, I certainly wouldn't trust Holyrood to set Partick up on this particular blind date.
steve4349 wrote:
the photos show a bright modern development that will bring jobs and good quality shopping to the area
Initial artists' impressions of the Scottish Parliament building also showed a 'bright, modern development'. What we ended up with was the aftermath of a drunken one-night stand between a city centre bus station and a Hawaiian theme pub. There appears to be no law that prevents towns and cities from going to bed with a stunning architectural beauty only to wake up with yet another costly monstrosity. Given its track record, I certainly wouldn't trust Holyrood to set Partick up on this particular blind date.
Posted by: pauloj, glasgow on 5:32pm Wed 28 Nov 07
As an employee of a local buisness but not a competitor the traffic in this area is already extremely busy and this would be a nightmare on Bieth St not to mention the surrounding area as Dumbarton Rd stuggles to cope as it is.We are all for improvement but this would surely be a hindrence and a put off for passing trade.
As an employee of a local buisness but not a competitor the traffic in this area is already extremely busy and this would be a nightmare on Bieth St not to mention the surrounding area as Dumbarton Rd stuggles to cope as it is.We are all for improvement but this would surely be a hindrence and a put off for passing trade.
Posted by: pauloj, glasgow on 5:33pm Wed 28 Nov 07
As an employee of a local buisness but not a competitor the traffic in this area is already extremely busy and this would be a nightmare on Bieth St not to mention the surrounding area as Dumbarton Rd stuggles to cope as it is.We are all for improvement but this would surely be a hindrence and a put off for passing trade.
As an employee of a local buisness but not a competitor the traffic in this area is already extremely busy and this would be a nightmare on Bieth St not to mention the surrounding area as Dumbarton Rd stuggles to cope as it is.We are all for improvement but this would surely be a hindrence and a put off for passing trade.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:54pm Wed 28 Nov 07
[quote][bold]steve4349[/bold] wrote:
the photos show a bright modern development that will bring jobs and good quality shopping to the area [/quote]
Steve4349,
It depends what your idea of modern is ?
Clearly theres no accounting for taste these days.
As for the jobs - again a matter of opinion, as the job losses will be ignored and omitted from the projections, or predictions about this potential new store.
Also - "Good Quality Shopping!" - try cheap, undercutting shopping at the expense of all other shops - undercutting farmers, supplyers and all others in the food chain.
This is all about political manoevers that are very devious and brown envelopes being passed under the desk - what people who are honest and decent want is transparency and openness that hasn't been there since Tesco bought this site.
Tesco should not be allowed to buy, and hold onto large sites of land accross the country, at the expense of their competitors.
If they are not granted planning permission within a set amount of time, they should be forced to sell off the land to an outside bidder.
On a final point I'd strongly echo Pauloj and his comments on the traffic, congestion, pollution, noise, and effects this will have on peoples health in the medium to longer term.
As the Bus Corridor in Partick is to be reviewed again, lets hope the Council does the wise thing, and looks seriously at the levels of traffic - by restricting car use on Dumbarton Road to locals and shopkeepers only, and giving Buses, Taxi's and Cycles heavier priority - surely we can make Partick the place to travel into once more.
As this is about those who travel through Partick on bus jounrneys as well.
steve4349 wrote:
the photos show a bright modern development that will bring jobs and good quality shopping to the area
Steve4349,
It depends what your idea of modern is ?
Clearly theres no accounting for taste these days.
As for the jobs - again a matter of opinion, as the job losses will be ignored and omitted from the projections, or predictions about this potential new store.
Also - "Good Quality Shopping!" - try cheap, undercutting shopping at the expense of all other shops - undercutting farmers, supplyers and all others in the food chain.
This is all about political manoevers that are very devious and brown envelopes being passed under the desk - what people who are honest and decent want is transparency and openness that hasn't been there since Tesco bought this site.
Tesco should not be allowed to buy, and hold onto large sites of land accross the country, at the expense of their competitors.
If they are not granted planning permission within a set amount of time, they should be forced to sell off the land to an outside bidder.
On a final point I'd strongly echo Pauloj and his comments on the traffic, congestion, pollution, noise, and effects this will have on peoples health in the medium to longer term.
As the Bus Corridor in Partick is to be reviewed again, lets hope the Council does the wise thing, and looks seriously at the levels of traffic - by restricting car use on Dumbarton Road to locals and shopkeepers only, and giving Buses, Taxi's and Cycles heavier priority - surely we can make Partick the place to travel into once more.
As this is about those who travel through Partick on bus jounrneys as well.
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 6:22pm Wed 28 Nov 07
This planned developement will get the go ahead
glasgow city council are not noted for their forward thinking.No matter how many petitions are signed they will disregard these and spout how many jobs it will bring to the local community.So all you small local shopkeepers once again nobody cares about you or your buisness.
This planned developement will get the go ahead
glasgow city council are not noted for their forward thinking.No matter how many petitions are signed they will disregard these and spout how many jobs it will bring to the local community.So all you small local shopkeepers once again nobody cares about you or your buisness.
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 9:30pm Wed 28 Nov 07
there are more than ample 'personal' traditional Glasgow style shops in Partick there is also easy public transport access to Tesco's and the like at dedicated centres.
Being homeless, I know what I would prefer to see the area used for
there are more than ample 'personal' traditional Glasgow style shops in Partick there is also easy public transport access to Tesco's and the like at dedicated centres.
Being homeless, I know what I would prefer to see the area used for
Posted by: anni, London on 10:48pm Wed 28 Nov 07
Shopping at the major stores now has become easier with buses laid on for transport, online shopping and delivery. I am moving to the Westend in the New Year and saw the site when I visted a few weeks ago, I reckon the land should be used for something other than a further TESCO store. Come on even here in London they still have traditional retailers dont less lose sight of everything! Give it a few years and we will be eating and drinking in TESCO, MORRISON'S and ASDA bars, stop today. Im so proud of the community I am going to be living in
Shopping at the major stores now has become easier with buses laid on for transport, online shopping and delivery. I am moving to the Westend in the New Year and saw the site when I visted a few weeks ago, I reckon the land should be used for something other than a further TESCO store. Come on even here in London they still have traditional retailers dont less lose sight of everything! Give it a few years and we will be eating and drinking in TESCO, MORRISON'S and ASDA bars, stop today. Im so proud of the community I am going to be living in
Posted by: Alan, West End on 2:02pm Thu 29 Nov 07
[quote][bold]George Brown[/bold] wrote:
there are more than ample 'personal' traditional Glasgow style shops in Partick there is also easy public transport access to Tesco's and the like at dedicated centres.
Being homeless, I know what I would prefer to see the area used for [/quote] "Traditional Glasgow style shops in Partick": Pound shops, tanning shops, amusement arcades & charity shops. I don't think Tesco will be threatening any of these - your jobs are safe!
George Brown wrote:
there are more than ample 'personal' traditional Glasgow style shops in Partick there is also easy public transport access to Tesco's and the like at dedicated centres.
Being homeless, I know what I would prefer to see the area used for
"Traditional Glasgow style shops in Partick": Pound shops, tanning shops, amusement arcades & charity shops. I don't think Tesco will be threatening any of these - your jobs are safe!
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