Posted by: FMJ, Glasgow on 11:17am Wed 19 Dec 07
I used to work in the old building and that corner is [italic]already[/italic] severely congested at certain times of day - mostly with buses, boy racers thumping out their music and Fire Engine Limos carrying screaming hen nights. Good luck to any future hotel guests trying to get some sleep.
I used to work in the old building and that corner is
already severely congested at certain times of day - mostly with buses, boy racers thumping out their music and Fire Engine Limos carrying screaming hen nights. Good luck to any future hotel guests trying to get some sleep.
Posted by: Paul Bhoy, Glasgow on 11:26am Wed 19 Dec 07
What's wrong with the developer negotiating a deal with the owner of the carpark accross the street?
What's wrong with the developer negotiating a deal with the owner of the carpark accross the street?
Posted by: Subway User, Hillhead on 11:39am Wed 19 Dec 07
When it comes to siting car park entrances/exits, I'm afraid Glasgow has a history of bad decisions - just look at the Glasshouse Car Park in congested Glassford Street - would have been far more sensible to have the entrance/exit in Hutcheson Street.
Incidently, motorists should only turn left when exiting that car park - but still turn right onto the bus lane....
When it comes to siting car park entrances/exits, I'm afraid Glasgow has a history of bad decisions - just look at the Glasshouse Car Park in congested Glassford Street - would have been far more sensible to have the entrance/exit in Hutcheson Street.
Incidently, motorists should only turn left when exiting that car park - but still turn right onto the bus lane....
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:41am Wed 19 Dec 07
Why has this story never been printed when there's been any development going on in the City Centre at any time in the past?
[italic]Yes!!! I Say, Old Bean! - Perhaps a Trifle Odd - if, I may be so bold![/italic]
[bold]Still, you take away the city streets such as the streets that existed, then that's less road for traffic to use - simple logic, all streets have been taken away in this area since the ghastly redevelopment days of the 60's and that's produced the giridlock, not the developments that take place within it![/bold]
Why has this story never been printed when there's been any development going on in the City Centre at any time in the past?
Yes!!! I Say, Old Bean! - Perhaps a Trifle Odd - if, I may be so bold!
Still, you take away the city streets such as the streets that existed, then that's less road for traffic to use - simple logic, all streets have been taken away in this area since the ghastly redevelopment days of the 60's and that's produced the giridlock, not the developments that take place within it! Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 11:52am Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]FMJ[/bold] wrote:
I used to work in the old building and that corner is [italic]already[/italic] severely congested at certain times of day - mostly with buses, boy racers thumping out their music and Fire Engine Limos carrying screaming hen nights. Good luck to any future hotel guests trying to get some sleep.[/quote] I used to work there too, why don't they have the exit onto Renfrew St like we used. Make the Cowcaddens Rd side entrance only...?
FMJ wrote:
I used to work in the old building and that corner is already severely congested at certain times of day - mostly with buses, boy racers thumping out their music and Fire Engine Limos carrying screaming hen nights. Good luck to any future hotel guests trying to get some sleep.
I used to work there too, why don't they have the exit onto Renfrew St like we used. Make the Cowcaddens Rd side entrance only...?
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 12:14pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Isn't there a major bus/coach station (Buchanan) to one side and a Glasgow Subway station (Cowcaddens) to the other? WHO NEEDS TRAFFIC? Those feet were made for walking. People don't seem to walk the length of themselves these days! (notwithstanding the elderly and/or disabled)
Isn't there a major bus/coach station (Buchanan) to one side and a Glasgow Subway station (Cowcaddens) to the other? WHO NEEDS TRAFFIC? Those feet were made for walking. People don't seem to walk the length of themselves these days! (notwithstanding the elderly and/or disabled)
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:46pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Andrew Stephen[/bold] wrote:
Isn't there a major bus/coach station (Buchanan) to one side and a Glasgow Subway station (Cowcaddens) to the other? WHO NEEDS TRAFFIC? Those feet were made for walking. People don't seem to walk the length of themselves these days! (notwithstanding the elderly and/or disabled)[/quote] Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality - put back the streets, more roads, more development space and less gridlock
Well over a hundred streets were in this area not so long ago, that would have provided plenty of car parks today around Cowcaddens & Townhead, so if it means knock down a few of the 50's 60's buildings, then so be it, Glasgow is becoming chocked with this and the motorway doesn't help either for people trying to get in and out the town!
[italic]Nasty stuff indeed, still that was the backwards theory of the 60's that we have to live with today![/italic]
[italic]Enjoy![/italic]
Andrew Stephen wrote:
Isn't there a major bus/coach station (Buchanan) to one side and a Glasgow Subway station (Cowcaddens) to the other? WHO NEEDS TRAFFIC? Those feet were made for walking. People don't seem to walk the length of themselves these days! (notwithstanding the elderly and/or disabled)
Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality - put back the streets, more roads, more development space and less gridlock
Well over a hundred streets were in this area not so long ago, that would have provided plenty of car parks today around Cowcaddens & Townhead, so if it means knock down a few of the 50's 60's buildings, then so be it, Glasgow is becoming chocked with this and the motorway doesn't help either for people trying to get in and out the town!
Nasty stuff indeed, still that was the backwards theory of the 60's that we have to live with today!
Enjoy! Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 1:53pm Wed 19 Dec 07
when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please?
"Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality"
Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not!
when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please?
"Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality"
Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:06pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not![/quote] Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know.
As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes.
Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now
Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty!
[italic]Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game.[/italic]
Pete wrote:
when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not!
Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know.
As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes.
Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now
Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty!
Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game. Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:09pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not![/quote] Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know. As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes. Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty! [italic]Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game.[/italic] [/quote] Amazing what can come out of a story about a square patch of land in what was a residential area full of amenities as well as lots of good transport and home to Buchanan Street train station which is now an office block for Transport Scotland - how ironic!
The Missing City wrote:
Pete wrote: when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not!
Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know. As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes. Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty! Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game.
Amazing what can come out of a story about a square patch of land in what was a residential area full of amenities as well as lots of good transport and home to Buchanan Street train station which is now an office block for Transport Scotland - how ironic!
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 2:09pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I agree with above, motorists are such a whinging lot ...
I agree with above, motorists are such a whinging lot ...
Posted by: watz, g31 on 2:54pm Wed 19 Dec 07
use public transport. parking problems solved.
use public transport. parking problems solved.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:14pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]watz[/bold] wrote:
use public transport. parking problems solved.[/quote] Need to increse availability - would privatised operators be able to provide this - are the car travellinmg public even prepared to substitute their car to sit next to a slabbering junkie wi a drippin nose and talking throo his beak?
[italic]Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ate - didnay hinkso masel maaaaaaaaan, know whit ah meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
te?[/italic]
[bold];-)[/bold]
watz wrote:
use public transport. parking problems solved.
Need to increse availability - would privatised operators be able to provide this - are the car travellinmg public even prepared to substitute their car to sit next to a slabbering junkie wi a drippin nose and talking throo his beak?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ate - didnay hinkso masel maaaaaaaaan, know whit ah meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
te?
;-) Posted by: Ian on 4:51pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not![/quote] Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know. As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes. Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty! [italic]Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game.[/italic] [/quote] Perhaps we should be expanding our boundaries then and start including areas which are wholly part of the city (Newton Mearns, Bearsden, Milngavie, Bishopbriggs, Clarkston, Busby, Giffnock etc)and let the residents also pay council taxes towards the great amenities they use in Glasgow.
The Missing City wrote:
Pete wrote: when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not!
Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know. As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes. Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty! Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game.
Perhaps we should be expanding our boundaries then and start including areas which are wholly part of the city (Newton Mearns, Bearsden, Milngavie, Bishopbriggs, Clarkston, Busby, Giffnock etc)and let the residents also pay council taxes towards the great amenities they use in Glasgow.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:09pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Ian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not![/quote] Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know. As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes. Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty! [italic]Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game.[/italic] [/quote] Perhaps we should be expanding our boundaries then and start including areas which are wholly part of the city (Newton Mearns, Bearsden, Milngavie, Bishopbriggs, Clarkston, Busby, Giffnock etc)and let the residents also pay council taxes towards the great amenities they use in Glasgow.[/quote] Then there may be more funds to properly re-develop Glasgow's rotten and rather stinking Inner City - yes, but these people will not budge, as long as they get to use what's on offer but as long as they don't have to be part of a larger conurbation.
[italic](I think its called being up yer own bakeyhole believing your above people with no teeth who freeze in the middle of January wearing only a Tracksuit with a bottle of nasty booze for supplying body heat)[/italic}
[italic]Maybe that's why they want nothing to do with Glasgow, but are prepared to come into the lavish city centre and use the services, facilities and amenities on offer which most Glaswegians cannot afford![/italic]
Ian wrote:
The Missing City wrote: Pete wrote: when will motorists stop whining like they've a God given right to drive anywhere they please when they please? "Try telling that to those who come in from outside Glasgow to work, to study, to shop, to eat or to go to one of the many venues of entertainment on offer - that is the reality" Move to Glasgow then, give the city the council tax that pays for many of the amenities you use. You seem to think you're a disadvataged group requiring special privelages, Your so not!
Pete, it wasn't their fault, Glasgow people were told the place required redevelopment and then they were put into Cumbernauld & East Kilbride etc as you probably well know. As you can also see, the redevolopmnents caused quite a signifivant amount of problems and now we're giving yee har over gridlock, lack of development space (notably within the confines of the dreaded M8) so really all that was required was to knock down a few buildings that were grotesque for which there was a few, but in a minority of property that today would have been worth a stinking fortune to those today who currently live in multi storey flats or nasty housing schemes. Social Inclusion crap did nothing about it but there needs to be a shake up of how this city and how people move within it can work for the future, not just for now Anybody with any good ideas? I've got plenty! Until something is done, we (The Public) are only mere pawns in this game.
Perhaps we should be expanding our boundaries then and start including areas which are wholly part of the city (Newton Mearns, Bearsden, Milngavie, Bishopbriggs, Clarkston, Busby, Giffnock etc)and let the residents also pay council taxes towards the great amenities they use in Glasgow.
Then there may be more funds to properly re-develop Glasgow's rotten and rather stinking Inner City - yes, but these people will not budge, as long as they get to use what's on offer but as long as they don't have to be part of a larger conurbation.
(I think its called being up yer own bakeyhole believing your above people with no teeth who freeze in the middle of January wearing only a Tracksuit with a bottle of nasty booze for supplying body heat)Maybe that's why they want nothing to do with Glasgow, but are prepared to come into the lavish city centre and use the services, facilities and amenities on offer which most Glaswegians cannot afford!
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:59pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Surely if cars are sat still, just being quiet, it's the opposite of chaos. Your paper's headline writers use the word Chaos far too often when talking about roads.
Chaos typically refers to unpredictability, and is the antithetical concept of cosmos. The word chaos did not mean "disorder" in classical-period ancient Greece. It meant "the primal emptiness, space". Due to people misunderstanding early Christian uses of the word, the meaning of the word changed to "disorder". Mathematically, chaos means an aperiodic deterministic behaviour which is very sensitive to its initial conditions, i.e. infinitesimal perturbations of boundary conditions for a chaotic dynamic system originate finite variations of the orbit in the phase space.
So it really is the wrong word to describe what is likely to happen if some cars have to wait a bit as a result of building works in the city.
I may repeat this point from time to time, when the Times allows its subs to mis-use the word.
Surely if cars are sat still, just being quiet, it's the opposite of chaos. Your paper's headline writers use the word Chaos far too often when talking about roads.
Chaos typically refers to unpredictability, and is the antithetical concept of cosmos. The word chaos did not mean "disorder" in classical-period ancient Greece. It meant "the primal emptiness, space". Due to people misunderstanding early Christian uses of the word, the meaning of the word changed to "disorder". Mathematically, chaos means an aperiodic deterministic behaviour which is very sensitive to its initial conditions, i.e. infinitesimal perturbations of boundary conditions for a chaotic dynamic system originate finite variations of the orbit in the phase space.
So it really is the wrong word to describe what is likely to happen if some cars have to wait a bit as a result of building works in the city.
I may repeat this point from time to time, when the Times allows its subs to mis-use the word.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 6:05pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
Surely if cars are sat still, just being quiet, it's the opposite of chaos. Your paper's headline writers use the word Chaos far too often when talking about roads. Chaos typically refers to unpredictability, and is the antithetical concept of cosmos. The word chaos did not mean "disorder" in classical-period ancient Greece. It meant "the primal emptiness, space". Due to people misunderstanding early Christian uses of the word, the meaning of the word changed to "disorder". Mathematically, chaos means an aperiodic deterministic behaviour which is very sensitive to its initial conditions, i.e. infinitesimal perturbations of boundary conditions for a chaotic dynamic system originate finite variations of the orbit in the phase space. So it really is the wrong word to describe what is likely to happen if some cars have to wait a bit as a result of building works in the city. I may repeat this point from time to time, when the Times allows its subs to mis-use the word.[/quote] Yes Johnny I share your sentiment with regards to the [bold]"Freak Out"[/bold] Headlines that appear in this paper.
Mind you, it is a grave cause for concern [italic](the traffic that is, not the sensational headlining thing!)[/italic]
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
Surely if cars are sat still, just being quiet, it's the opposite of chaos. Your paper's headline writers use the word Chaos far too often when talking about roads. Chaos typically refers to unpredictability, and is the antithetical concept of cosmos. The word chaos did not mean "disorder" in classical-period ancient Greece. It meant "the primal emptiness, space". Due to people misunderstanding early Christian uses of the word, the meaning of the word changed to "disorder". Mathematically, chaos means an aperiodic deterministic behaviour which is very sensitive to its initial conditions, i.e. infinitesimal perturbations of boundary conditions for a chaotic dynamic system originate finite variations of the orbit in the phase space. So it really is the wrong word to describe what is likely to happen if some cars have to wait a bit as a result of building works in the city. I may repeat this point from time to time, when the Times allows its subs to mis-use the word.
Yes Johnny I share your sentiment with regards to the
"Freak Out" Headlines that appear in this paper.
Mind you, it is a grave cause for concern
(the traffic that is, not the sensational headlining thing!) Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:13pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Glasgows Planning Department along with those who wrote / created City Plan 2 are complete and utter numptys.
To expect to be able to regenerate, build on, and add the sheer volume of developments, flats, apartments, and properties to the city without pandemonium, and gridlock on our main traffic arteries is completely blind, and ignorant.
Glasgow in my view is now having the equivalent of a "Heart Attack" of its roads network, with its main traffic arteries and networks all clogged, and congested.
Until Glasgow City Council have a wake up call, and stop pandering to the needs of car drivers, and at the same time charging ridiculous parking fees - which does not stop cars - or reduce them, it just enfuriates drivers more.
A strategic plan where drastic measures are taken is the only way to cut down on cars within certain parts of the city.
Londons former Mayor Ken Livingston had the right idea with his congestion charge scheme.
Why not go a step further - and pedestrianise parts of the City Centre, or have them as "Bus, Taxi, Cycle and Emergency Service Vehicles only!"
Even Dumbarton Road in Partick, a major shopping corridor - is being reviewed for a Bus Corridor yet again.
The shop keepers can object all they want to, but it will happen - mark my word!
As soon as the Clydeside Expresway is complete, and drivers realise South Street is the new route to link them back onto the Expressway - Dumbarton Road should return to "normality" - until then the gridlock at all times of day is an absolute nightmare.
So - for gods sake GCC start using your brains before allowing so many new developments, or at least introduce car free apartments / flats.
"CAR SHARING SCHEMES!" are also a serious consideration to take on board - and must be looked at.
But, simply increasing taxation, and the price of petrol at the pumps is not the solution, and never has been.
And - if indeed Cowcadens becomes a bottleneck - it surely cannot get any worse than it is already.
If it does - car drivers must wake up and look at alternatives, or take their cars on alternate days. Theres plenty of solutions.
Just too many stubborn, and resistant mindsets that will refuse to accept, or introduce real change.
Glasgows Planning Department along with those who wrote / created City Plan 2 are complete and utter numptys.
To expect to be able to regenerate, build on, and add the sheer volume of developments, flats, apartments, and properties to the city without pandemonium, and gridlock on our main traffic arteries is completely blind, and ignorant.
Glasgow in my view is now having the equivalent of a "Heart Attack" of its roads network, with its main traffic arteries and networks all clogged, and congested.
Until Glasgow City Council have a wake up call, and stop pandering to the needs of car drivers, and at the same time charging ridiculous parking fees - which does not stop cars - or reduce them, it just enfuriates drivers more.
A strategic plan where drastic measures are taken is the only way to cut down on cars within certain parts of the city.
Londons former Mayor Ken Livingston had the right idea with his congestion charge scheme.
Why not go a step further - and pedestrianise parts of the City Centre, or have them as "Bus, Taxi, Cycle and Emergency Service Vehicles only!"
Even Dumbarton Road in Partick, a major shopping corridor - is being reviewed for a Bus Corridor yet again.
The shop keepers can object all they want to, but it will happen - mark my word!
As soon as the Clydeside Expresway is complete, and drivers realise South Street is the new route to link them back onto the Expressway - Dumbarton Road should return to "normality" - until then the gridlock at all times of day is an absolute nightmare.
So - for gods sake GCC start using your brains before allowing so many new developments, or at least introduce car free apartments / flats.
"CAR SHARING SCHEMES!" are also a serious consideration to take on board - and must be looked at.
But, simply increasing taxation, and the price of petrol at the pumps is not the solution, and never has been.
And - if indeed Cowcadens becomes a bottleneck - it surely cannot get any worse than it is already.
If it does - car drivers must wake up and look at alternatives, or take their cars on alternate days. Theres plenty of solutions.
Just too many stubborn, and resistant mindsets that will refuse to accept, or introduce real change.
Posted by: DMac, Glasgow on 9:48pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I would still urge Glasgow City Council to come up with a plan for the awful one-way system in the City Centre. After all, this is what has caused most of the congestion over the years. SUBWAY USER, HILLHEAD was commenting on the congestion in Glassford St (at Tiger Tiger). This could be eased quite simply by narrowing one or both pavements ever so slightly, and creating a two-lane southbound operation (which is currently one), as well as keeping the contraflow bus lane.
I would still urge Glasgow City Council to come up with a plan for the awful one-way system in the City Centre. After all, this is what has caused most of the congestion over the years. SUBWAY USER, HILLHEAD was commenting on the congestion in Glassford St (at Tiger Tiger). This could be eased quite simply by narrowing one or both pavements ever so slightly, and creating a two-lane southbound operation (which is currently one), as well as keeping the contraflow bus lane.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:10pm Wed 19 Dec 07
DMac,
Much as I am in favour of cutting congestion, narrowing pavements is definately NOT a solution.
If anything they need widened, and cars need to be "outed" from the City Centre.
Yes - the one way system is a nightmare, and ludicrous, stupid and completely impractical, especially for the Emergency services.
However, until we have a system like London, and tax cars entering the City Centre, as well as Pedestrianise more streets things will never improve.
Personally - I'd see far more streets prioritised for "Buses Taxi's and Cycles"
i.e. Jamaica Street, Hope Street, Argyle Street, and Sauchiehall Street.
These are primarily Shopping Streets and should be prioritised for shoppers, not the high volume of car drivers.
Car drivers must realise they have a pair of legs on them and learn to walk the length of themselves. As I see many drive short distances, that is the height of laziness.
DMac,
Much as I am in favour of cutting congestion, narrowing pavements is definately NOT a solution.
If anything they need widened, and cars need to be "outed" from the City Centre.
Yes - the one way system is a nightmare, and ludicrous, stupid and completely impractical, especially for the Emergency services.
However, until we have a system like London, and tax cars entering the City Centre, as well as Pedestrianise more streets things will never improve.
Personally - I'd see far more streets prioritised for "Buses Taxi's and Cycles"
i.e. Jamaica Street, Hope Street, Argyle Street, and Sauchiehall Street.
These are primarily Shopping Streets and should be prioritised for shoppers, not the high volume of car drivers.
Car drivers must realise they have a pair of legs on them and learn to walk the length of themselves. As I see many drive short distances, that is the height of laziness.
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