Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:04pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up?
Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work?
I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up?
Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work?
I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:19pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]glamkitty[/bold] wrote:
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up? Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work? I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.[/quote] This story confirms what I've been saying for a long time, stop this methadone crap, why do we have to pay for their habits which doesn't do them any favours?
Besides there's a whole range of stuff they can get their hands on - Smackaroo, Crystal Meth, Crack, Blues, DF118's also known as Diff's or Dihydracodeine - it's like a supermarket out there!
glamkitty wrote:
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up? Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work? I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.
This story confirms what I've been saying for a long time, stop this methadone crap, why do we have to pay for their habits which doesn't do them any favours?
Besides there's a whole range of stuff they can get their hands on - Smackaroo, Crystal Meth, Crack, Blues, DF118's also known as Diff's or Dihydracodeine - it's like a supermarket out there!
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:23pm Wed 19 Dec 07
The problem is that most addicts dont WANT to be drug free. Almost every time I go into the pharmacy at the royal infirmary there are junkies in there and they get their methadone and whatever else (all free of charge of course) and then go off talking to their mates about all the stuff theyve got for selling (I saw some getting three big carrier bags full of something from the pharmacy and went out of the place talking about how much they'd get for it.)
The NHS is wasting our money. If they want to be druggies, then let them, but dont try to protect them from the consequences.
The problem is that most addicts dont WANT to be drug free. Almost every time I go into the pharmacy at the royal infirmary there are junkies in there and they get their methadone and whatever else (all free of charge of course) and then go off talking to their mates about all the stuff theyve got for selling (I saw some getting three big carrier bags full of something from the pharmacy and went out of the place talking about how much they'd get for it.)
The NHS is wasting our money. If they want to be druggies, then let them, but dont try to protect them from the consequences.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:34pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]glamkitty[/bold] wrote:
The problem is that most addicts dont WANT to be drug free. Almost every time I go into the pharmacy at the royal infirmary there are junkies in there and they get their methadone and whatever else (all free of charge of course) and then go off talking to their mates about all the stuff theyve got for selling (I saw some getting three big carrier bags full of something from the pharmacy and went out of the place talking about how much they'd get for it.) The NHS is wasting our money. If they want to be druggies, then let them, but dont try to protect them from the consequences.[/quote] Aye, they're all like Micheal Jackson's Thriller and they walk about as if they're the Living Dead [italic](unfortunately, still living! :-( )[/italic] They beat a path looking for another ticket to the Garden of Eden - they talk throo their beaks and they slabber all over the buses and sleep across the seats - no wonder more people are driving cars and leaving the bus well alone!
Here Glamkat do you think they have any [italic](Dare I say it!)[/italic] common sense, why can't we have a little less of the zombies and a little more focus on fixing the problem rather than prolonging the crap?
[italic]That makes sense to me, I'm sure it does to lots of people[/italic] !
glamkitty wrote:
The problem is that most addicts dont WANT to be drug free. Almost every time I go into the pharmacy at the royal infirmary there are junkies in there and they get their methadone and whatever else (all free of charge of course) and then go off talking to their mates about all the stuff theyve got for selling (I saw some getting three big carrier bags full of something from the pharmacy and went out of the place talking about how much they'd get for it.) The NHS is wasting our money. If they want to be druggies, then let them, but dont try to protect them from the consequences.
Aye, they're all like Micheal Jackson's Thriller and they walk about as if they're the Living Dead
(unfortunately, still living! :-( ) They beat a path looking for another ticket to the Garden of Eden - they talk throo their beaks and they slabber all over the buses and sleep across the seats - no wonder more people are driving cars and leaving the bus well alone!
Here Glamkat do you think they have any
(Dare I say it!) common sense, why can't we have a little less of the zombies and a little more focus on fixing the problem rather than prolonging the crap?
That makes sense to me, I'm sure it does to lots of people !
Posted by: newman, glasgow on 1:31pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Methadone maintenence is what it says- it maintains the position. Over a period of time the dosage is reduced so eventually the addict is weaned off. However the figures in 2006 showed that only 4% of heroin addicts in scotland who were perscribed methadone, managed to become drug free nearly 3 years after begining treatment. Any other method that only had a 4% success rate would be scrapped. But because of the limited spaces on other treatment programmes which are far more succesful, methadone maintenence programmes are used. The idea behind it, is if you take away the withdrawl and craving symptoms from an addict you will be left with an addict who can give up. Wrong, the biggest factors in drug addiction are environment and psychological/emotio
nal problems. So all you are doing is removing the addicts coping mechanism for life (drugs) and throwing them back into the same social environment (area and people) with no coping mechanisms (due to psychological and emotional problems), a sure fire receipe for disaster. What a waste of money and resources, so stop kidding on the public that it is an effective strategy, its like putting an elastoplast over the mouth of an alcoholic.
Methadone maintenence is what it says- it maintains the position. Over a period of time the dosage is reduced so eventually the addict is weaned off. However the figures in 2006 showed that only 4% of heroin addicts in scotland who were perscribed methadone, managed to become drug free nearly 3 years after begining treatment. Any other method that only had a 4% success rate would be scrapped. But because of the limited spaces on other treatment programmes which are far more succesful, methadone maintenence programmes are used. The idea behind it, is if you take away the withdrawl and craving symptoms from an addict you will be left with an addict who can give up. Wrong, the biggest factors in drug addiction are environment and psychological/emotio
nal problems. So all you are doing is removing the addicts coping mechanism for life (drugs) and throwing them back into the same social environment (area and people) with no coping mechanisms (due to psychological and emotional problems), a sure fire receipe for disaster. What a waste of money and resources, so stop kidding on the public that it is an effective strategy, its like putting an elastoplast over the mouth of an alcoholic.
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 1:31pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Nobody is forced to take heroin though some of us do & get addicted.
I am a former heroin & have now been clean for 7yrs & I was on methadone for just over 14months .
The GPs surgery i attended strictly monitored the usage of it & was encouraged to reduce until i was completely free of methadone..
Heroin addicts will continue to use heroin on top of methadone because most GPs do not test them every week for other substances other than methadone as it is to costly..
Addicts know this & will abuse the system because they can..
Its all very well saying stop giving them methadone but then what happens is that burglaries go up, muggings etc..
Until a proper monitoring system is brought in the abuse will continue..
Getting off heroin is hard but it is not impossible, i have a great life now & thats because i had a GP who really cared instead of dishing out drugs..
Nobody is forced to take heroin though some of us do & get addicted.
I am a former heroin & have now been clean for 7yrs & I was on methadone for just over 14months .
The GPs surgery i attended strictly monitored the usage of it & was encouraged to reduce until i was completely free of methadone..
Heroin addicts will continue to use heroin on top of methadone because most GPs do not test them every week for other substances other than methadone as it is to costly..
Addicts know this & will abuse the system because they can..
Its all very well saying stop giving them methadone but then what happens is that burglaries go up, muggings etc..
Until a proper monitoring system is brought in the abuse will continue..
Getting off heroin is hard but it is not impossible, i have a great life now & thats because i had a GP who really cared instead of dishing out drugs..
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 1:31pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Nobody is forced to take heroin though some of us do & get addicted.
I am a former heroin & have now been clean for 7yrs & I was on methadone for just over 14months .
The GPs surgery i attended strictly monitored the usage of it & was encouraged to reduce until i was completely free of methadone..
Heroin addicts will continue to use heroin on top of methadone because most GPs do not test them every week for other substances other than methadone as it is to costly..
Addicts know this & will abuse the system because they can..
Its all very well saying stop giving them methadone but then what happens is that burglaries go up, muggings etc..
Until a proper monitoring system is brought in the abuse will continue..
Getting off heroin is hard but it is not impossible, i have a great life now & thats because i had a GP who really cared instead of dishing out drugs..
Nobody is forced to take heroin though some of us do & get addicted.
I am a former heroin & have now been clean for 7yrs & I was on methadone for just over 14months .
The GPs surgery i attended strictly monitored the usage of it & was encouraged to reduce until i was completely free of methadone..
Heroin addicts will continue to use heroin on top of methadone because most GPs do not test them every week for other substances other than methadone as it is to costly..
Addicts know this & will abuse the system because they can..
Its all very well saying stop giving them methadone but then what happens is that burglaries go up, muggings etc..
Until a proper monitoring system is brought in the abuse will continue..
Getting off heroin is hard but it is not impossible, i have a great life now & thats because i had a GP who really cared instead of dishing out drugs..
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 1:45pm Wed 19 Dec 07
there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail
there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 2:06pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Biffo, thats great that you changed things around, but Im sure you would be the first to agree that your experience is not typical of most?
Biffo, thats great that you changed things around, but Im sure you would be the first to agree that your experience is not typical of most?
Posted by: joan-joan, Glasgow on 2:20pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Dead junkies hmmmmmmm and the problem is?
Dead junkies hmmmmmmm and the problem is?
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 3:12pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]yerauldda[/bold] wrote:
there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail[/quote] I agree ,we should do the same with the control freak health board and all the corrupt
labour sleaze mob whom we all know have broken the law.
yerauldda wrote:
there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail
I agree ,we should do the same with the control freak health board and all the corrupt
labour sleaze mob whom we all know have broken the law.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:46pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]yerauldda[/bold] wrote: there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail[/quote] I agree ,we should do the same with the control freak health board and all the corrupt labour sleaze mob whom we all know have broken the law.[/quote] I agree!
ex labour voter wrote:
yerauldda wrote: there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail
I agree ,we should do the same with the control freak health board and all the corrupt labour sleaze mob whom we all know have broken the law.
I agree!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:47pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]yerauldda[/bold] wrote: there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail[/quote] I agree ,we should do the same with the control freak health board and all the corrupt labour sleaze mob whom we all know have broken the law.[/quote] I agree![/quote] [bold]HEAR HEAR - OH YEAH!![/bold]
The Missing City wrote:
ex labour voter wrote: yerauldda wrote: there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail
I agree ,we should do the same with the control freak health board and all the corrupt labour sleaze mob whom we all know have broken the law.
I agree!
HEAR HEAR - OH YEAH!! Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 4:14pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Don't no enough about this subject but Im willing to bet if you asked all these addicted to heroin if they were offered the chance to go back in time to when they were first offered the drug,evry single one would have said no.So if you don't know the real cause and effect of a heroin addiction don't criticize or make smug remarks.And is it not worrying that huge numbers of under 10s are been prescribed drugs gp.s need to be more responsible
Don't no enough about this subject but Im willing to bet if you asked all these addicted to heroin if they were offered the chance to go back in time to when they were first offered the drug,evry single one would have said no.So if you don't know the real cause and effect of a heroin addiction don't criticize or make smug remarks.And is it not worrying that huge numbers of under 10s are been prescribed drugs gp.s need to be more responsible
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:34pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
Don't no enough about this subject but Im willing to bet if you asked all these addicted to heroin if they were offered the chance to go back in time to when they were first offered the drug,evry single one would have said no.So if you don't know the real cause and effect of a heroin addiction don't criticize or make smug remarks.And is it not worrying that huge numbers of under 10s are been prescribed drugs gp.s need to be more responsible [/quote] Well to have lived in amongst it most of my life JRB and having been wise enough not to have touched it then these people deserve no sympathy for being stupid and destroying their bodies that their mostly decent parents were good enough to give them!
I know of two people who came off smack, but they couldn't handle it and threw themselves off multi stroey flats.
Was it because they saw the place they lived in for what it was (and still is for the large part) and realised that the place had nothing to offer them, was it because the place was so depressing and that is why they were out their faces on smack in the first place?
As said in previous posts, we have over 40 years of social damage to repair, if it can be repaired!
[bold]Who's up for the job?[/bold]
People make humour out of everything - I don't see why junkies, zombies or dead beats have to be given special status when they are no different from other dodgy people who probably walk by us every day in life!
jrb wrote:
Don't no enough about this subject but Im willing to bet if you asked all these addicted to heroin if they were offered the chance to go back in time to when they were first offered the drug,evry single one would have said no.So if you don't know the real cause and effect of a heroin addiction don't criticize or make smug remarks.And is it not worrying that huge numbers of under 10s are been prescribed drugs gp.s need to be more responsible
Well to have lived in amongst it most of my life JRB and having been wise enough not to have touched it then these people deserve no sympathy for being stupid and destroying their bodies that their mostly decent parents were good enough to give them!
I know of two people who came off smack, but they couldn't handle it and threw themselves off multi stroey flats.
Was it because they saw the place they lived in for what it was (and still is for the large part) and realised that the place had nothing to offer them, was it because the place was so depressing and that is why they were out their faces on smack in the first place?
As said in previous posts, we have over 40 years of social damage to repair, if it can be repaired!
Who's up for the job?
People make humour out of everything - I don't see why junkies, zombies or dead beats have to be given special status when they are no different from other dodgy people who probably walk by us every day in life!
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 5:22pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Missing city..maybe as you point out these are just some of the reasons the turned to using heroin, but what are we to do? ..that if you want to see the end of all the problems caused by drugs, do we legalize it? have tougher sentences in the court ? as you say 40 years down the road and things are getting worse And is it not obvious to us all that there is not a single politician making any effort whatsoever to even attempt a solution to this depressing problem....
Missing city..maybe as you point out these are just some of the reasons the turned to using heroin, but what are we to do? ..that if you want to see the end of all the problems caused by drugs, do we legalize it? have tougher sentences in the court ? as you say 40 years down the road and things are getting worse And is it not obvious to us all that there is not a single politician making any effort whatsoever to even attempt a solution to this depressing problem....
Posted by: seenitdunit, Glasgow on 5:30pm Wed 19 Dec 07
maybe all you so called people posting some snide remarks about drug addicts aren't educated enough to understand that it may happen to one of your own family in the future. Its time we hit the people who deal in drugs the hard way, with stiffer sentences not 3mths-6mths or a year but years behind bars as drug users and their relatives suffer years of missery
maybe all you so called people posting some snide remarks about drug addicts aren't educated enough to understand that it may happen to one of your own family in the future. Its time we hit the people who deal in drugs the hard way, with stiffer sentences not 3mths-6mths or a year but years behind bars as drug users and their relatives suffer years of missery
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:41pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
Missing city..maybe as you point out these are just some of the reasons the turned to using heroin, but what are we to do? ..that if you want to see the end of all the problems caused by drugs, do we legalize it? have tougher sentences in the court ? as you say 40 years down the road and things are getting worse And is it not obvious to us all that there is not a single politician making any effort whatsoever to even attempt a solution to this depressing problem....[/quote] Thats what **** me right off, but others get at the victims of drugs rather than deal with the root causes - I had a zombie break into my house when I lived in Shettleston, whoever it was they obviously knew I was at work - 3 times in the 1 year back in 1994.
I grew up seein them in my face in Castlemilk back in the late 80's and sellin stuff round the doors like proper hawkers.
Like everybody else, I have no time for them, you would have to be a dumb parent and ignorant to the problem or just be a plain fud to allow any of your family to go down that road, a strong decent educated family wouldn't allow this to happen to any of their offspring - and if the case has arisen where this is the case, then I'm sure the offspring was dumped like sh1t on their shoes.
Sorry the education in the hardcore drugs department has been around for too long now for anybody to be ignorant to the damage it does - anybody that thinks otherwise is a waste of space and lots of taxpayers cash!
[italic]If that's not a fair statement on the issue, if its not, I don't know what is![/italic]
jrb wrote:
Missing city..maybe as you point out these are just some of the reasons the turned to using heroin, but what are we to do? ..that if you want to see the end of all the problems caused by drugs, do we legalize it? have tougher sentences in the court ? as you say 40 years down the road and things are getting worse And is it not obvious to us all that there is not a single politician making any effort whatsoever to even attempt a solution to this depressing problem....
Thats what **** me right off, but others get at the victims of drugs rather than deal with the root causes - I had a zombie break into my house when I lived in Shettleston, whoever it was they obviously knew I was at work - 3 times in the 1 year back in 1994.
I grew up seein them in my face in Castlemilk back in the late 80's and sellin stuff round the doors like proper hawkers.
Like everybody else, I have no time for them, you would have to be a dumb parent and ignorant to the problem or just be a plain fud to allow any of your family to go down that road, a strong decent educated family wouldn't allow this to happen to any of their offspring - and if the case has arisen where this is the case, then I'm sure the offspring was dumped like sh1t on their shoes.
Sorry the education in the hardcore drugs department has been around for too long now for anybody to be ignorant to the damage it does - anybody that thinks otherwise is a waste of space and lots of taxpayers cash!
If that's not a fair statement on the issue, if its not, I don't know what is! Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 6:08pm Wed 19 Dec 07
gies peace the lot of you, bloody do-googers
you think drug dealers walk up to poor innocent wee kids, hold them down and pump them full of smack?
or that they are blue eyed kids who dont know what they are doing?
****
every junkie knows exactly what they are getting into, and do it coz they think they are hard and they can handle it
i think this xmas eve we should have "national kick a junkie night" where revellers give a swift kick to every bit of AIDS junkie scum they see
gies peace the lot of you, bloody do-googers
you think drug dealers walk up to poor innocent wee kids, hold them down and pump them full of smack?
or that they are blue eyed kids who dont know what they are doing?
****
every junkie knows exactly what they are getting into, and do it coz they think they are hard and they can handle it
i think this xmas eve we should have "national kick a junkie night" where revellers give a swift kick to every bit of AIDS junkie scum they see
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 6:11pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Missing city...Once again I ask.. Whats the answer?maybe if something was done back then maybe things would be a lot different from what they are now.From what I've read those involved in the Carlton project,in the early years pointed out the dangers of introducing methadone as a method of reducing or curbing addiction but were undermined and eventually underfunded by others involved in drug addiction funding, mainly the Scottish health boards and others who thought they knew better than those who ran the Carlton project
Missing city...Once again I ask.. Whats the answer?maybe if something was done back then maybe things would be a lot different from what they are now.From what I've read those involved in the Carlton project,in the early years pointed out the dangers of introducing methadone as a method of reducing or curbing addiction but were undermined and eventually underfunded by others involved in drug addiction funding, mainly the Scottish health boards and others who thought they knew better than those who ran the Carlton project
Posted by: pete, Bearsden on 6:23pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Why should decent people have to pay to let junkies have their Methadone fix - all junkies should be rounded up and dumped in the Clyde - good riddance to them.
Why should decent people have to pay to let junkies have their Methadone fix - all junkies should be rounded up and dumped in the Clyde - good riddance to them.
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 6:41pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Scotland has loads of uninhabited islands. Put them all on one and drop food in every month.
Any boat or plane which flies or sails too close without being authorised ... destroy them.
First time lock them on the island for a year, 2nd failed test 5 years, 3rd ....... lifetime.
The military can use the isaland for training purposes. Im sure the SBS and the Roayl Marines would welcome the training practice at gaurding the island.
I DO know the suffering that junkies cause to others, and everyone knows there is only one way to come off drugs ........ COLD TURKEY.
Add that to an automatic death sentence for smugglers and dealers and we MIGHT start winning the battle.
Scotland has loads of uninhabited islands. Put them all on one and drop food in every month.
Any boat or plane which flies or sails too close without being authorised ... destroy them.
First time lock them on the island for a year, 2nd failed test 5 years, 3rd ....... lifetime.
The military can use the isaland for training purposes. Im sure the SBS and the Roayl Marines would welcome the training practice at gaurding the island.
I DO know the suffering that junkies cause to others, and everyone knows there is only one way to come off drugs ........ COLD TURKEY.
Add that to an automatic death sentence for smugglers and dealers and we MIGHT start winning the battle.
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 6:43pm Wed 19 Dec 07
snake plisken is back in
"escape from tiree"
snake plisken is back in
"escape from tiree"
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 6:46pm Wed 19 Dec 07
should be ROYAL Marines
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 6:47pm Wed 19 Dec 07
llf yerauldda ... not bad
llf yerauldda ... not bad
Posted by: HOLY WILLIE, GLASGOW on 7:12pm Wed 19 Dec 07
back in the days of our lord jesus there were no junkies as jesus would never allowt this, good people from that time such as jesus,joseph,judas,j
ohn etc never took drugs. i say send the addicts to church to learn these things then they will not have any need to take drugs
back in the days of our lord jesus there were no junkies as jesus would never allowt this, good people from that time such as jesus,joseph,judas,j
ohn etc never took drugs. i say send the addicts to church to learn these things then they will not have any need to take drugs
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 7:24pm Wed 19 Dec 07
haha, aye judas was a good person from biblical times
and anyway, you need drugs to sit through a church service
haha, aye judas was a good person from biblical times
and anyway, you need drugs to sit through a church service
Posted by: Grandpaw, Glasgow on 8:04pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]glamkitty[/bold] wrote:
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up? Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work? I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.[/quote] As always Glamkitty, you speak so much sense.
Who cares about this low life who cost us decent people money and steal our possesions? Just their own kind........
glamkitty wrote:
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up? Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work? I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.
As always Glamkitty, you speak so much sense.
Who cares about this low life who cost us decent people money and steal our possesions? Just their own kind........
Posted by: HOLY WILLIE, GLASGOW on 8:04pm Wed 19 Dec 07
something to consider here is the fact that most if not all junkies are unemployed therefore do not have much cash,if the government were to increase their dole money to a reasonable amount ,say £280 per week then they would be happier in their life and would not be so depressed as to indulge in drugs
something to consider here is the fact that most if not all junkies are unemployed therefore do not have much cash,if the government were to increase their dole money to a reasonable amount ,say £280 per week then they would be happier in their life and would not be so depressed as to indulge in drugs
Posted by: Grandpaw, Glasgow on 8:05pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]yerauldda[/bold] wrote:
there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail[/quote] Now you're talking!!
yerauldda wrote:
there should be a pit of lava in george square and every glaswegian should have to throw at least one junkie a day in it, or get the jail
Now you're talking!!
Posted by: Grandpaw, Glasgow on 8:08pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]HOLY WILLIE[/bold] wrote:
something to consider here is the fact that most if not all junkies are unemployed therefore do not have much cash,if the government were to increase their dole money to a reasonable amount ,say £280 per week then they would be happier in their life and would not be so depressed as to indulge in drugs [/quote] You kidding ?????
They would just spend it on drugs!!!
Which planet do live on ?
HOLY WILLIE wrote:
something to consider here is the fact that most if not all junkies are unemployed therefore do not have much cash,if the government were to increase their dole money to a reasonable amount ,say £280 per week then they would be happier in their life and would not be so depressed as to indulge in drugs
You kidding ?????
They would just spend it on drugs!!!
Which planet do live on ?
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 8:14pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Good evening Holy Willie...I was wondering how long it would be before we heard from you,as usual you spout on with the holy scriptures,and the word of the lordy, lordy,you only want them to give up one brain numbing,drug for another.carry on with the good fight willie, there's not many like you left in"auld glesga toon" thank the lord!!!!!
Good evening Holy Willie...I was wondering how long it would be before we heard from you,as usual you spout on with the holy scriptures,and the word of the lordy, lordy,you only want them to give up one brain numbing,drug for another.carry on with the good fight willie, there's not many like you left in"auld glesga toon" thank the lord!!!!!
Posted by: I Predict A Riot, Glasgow on 8:35pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Execute ALL drug dealers would appear to be the simple answer,works in Singapore:-)
Execute ALL drug dealers would appear to be the simple answer,works in Singapore:-)
Posted by: Big Al, Glasgow on 9:33pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]glamkitty[/bold] wrote:
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up?
Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work?
I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.[/quote] Its just survival of the fittest?
glamkitty wrote:
Who cares that the number of junkies dying is going up?
Stop wasting money on methadone. How many clues do the NHS need, to figure out it doesnt work?
I dont give a flying **** about junkies. Let them rot.
Its just survival of the fittest?
Posted by: silvixen, Glasgow on 11:47pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I bet their families care. I also cannot say hand on heart that despite the best upbringing i can give my kids and that although they are 16, 19 and 22 now that they will never in their lives use drugs. Unfortunately I dont have the powers of the crystal ball that some here seem to say that. As for saying anyone allows their kids to go down that route i am at a loss to understand that comment. No one allows their kids to do that but chit happens and parents cannot be with kids 24/7 and im not talking about young kids im talking about parents with kids or should i say young people. You can educate them to high heaven but you cannot always be there to ensure that they always go down the right road. They make their own choices in this world and in many cases its the parents and siblings who are left to mourn lost life and lost opportunities. Just my opinion for what its worth
I bet their families care. I also cannot say hand on heart that despite the best upbringing i can give my kids and that although they are 16, 19 and 22 now that they will never in their lives use drugs. Unfortunately I dont have the powers of the crystal ball that some here seem to say that. As for saying anyone allows their kids to go down that route i am at a loss to understand that comment. No one allows their kids to do that but chit happens and parents cannot be with kids 24/7 and im not talking about young kids im talking about parents with kids or should i say young people. You can educate them to high heaven but you cannot always be there to ensure that they always go down the right road. They make their own choices in this world and in many cases its the parents and siblings who are left to mourn lost life and lost opportunities. Just my opinion for what its worth
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 1:52am Thu 20 Dec 07
can you imagine having an operation by some one on drugs? or going for a nice meal prepared by a junkie? being on a bus or a plane? it goes on and on, luckily i have never tried drugs as i like to be in control of myself and my surroundings.people who are addicted to drink and drugs you will find that they are very insecure and mostly selfish, that is why they have very low self esteem.
can you imagine having an operation by some one on drugs? or going for a nice meal prepared by a junkie? being on a bus or a plane? it goes on and on, luckily i have never tried drugs as i like to be in control of myself and my surroundings.people who are addicted to drink and drugs you will find that they are very insecure and mostly selfish, that is why they have very low self esteem.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 2:05am Thu 20 Dec 07
the parents or guardians of drug users should find out through the drug squad if the drug dogs could come for a visit to their home and sniff out the stash, if you let the family know the plan and that the detective could come by at any time, if it comes to light that this is the case, the owners of the home has proof that they are keeping things honest then THEY will not have their home taken from them.
the parents or guardians of drug users should find out through the drug squad if the drug dogs could come for a visit to their home and sniff out the stash, if you let the family know the plan and that the detective could come by at any time, if it comes to light that this is the case, the owners of the home has proof that they are keeping things honest then THEY will not have their home taken from them.
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 7:15am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]glamkitty[/bold] wrote:
Biffo, thats great that you changed things around, but Im sure you would be the first to agree that your experience is not typical of most?[/quote] Yip, you are right there GK, most are quite happy to sit on methadone & the bru
glamkitty wrote:
Biffo, thats great that you changed things around, but Im sure you would be the first to agree that your experience is not typical of most?
Yip, you are right there GK, most are quite happy to sit on methadone & the bru
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 9:09am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
Missing city...Once again I ask.. Whats the answer?maybe if something was done back then maybe things would be a lot different from what they are now.From what I've read those involved in the Carlton project,in the early years pointed out the dangers of introducing methadone as a method of reducing or curbing addiction but were undermined and eventually underfunded by others involved in drug addiction funding, mainly the Scottish health boards and others who thought they knew better than those who ran the Carlton project[/quote] The government disposed of jobs and communities, people left to dishevvel in the schemes, - pure boredom, drugs or bvooze or simply to get to fcuk out of it was the only solution to cure the boredom factor
This is why Glasgow has a lrage problem, same with most ex-working towns in the sh1ttish isles.
jrb wrote:
Missing city...Once again I ask.. Whats the answer?maybe if something was done back then maybe things would be a lot different from what they are now.From what I've read those involved in the Carlton project,in the early years pointed out the dangers of introducing methadone as a method of reducing or curbing addiction but were undermined and eventually underfunded by others involved in drug addiction funding, mainly the Scottish health boards and others who thought they knew better than those who ran the Carlton project
The government disposed of jobs and communities, people left to dishevvel in the schemes, - pure boredom, drugs or bvooze or simply to get to fcuk out of it was the only solution to cure the boredom factor
This is why Glasgow has a lrage problem, same with most ex-working towns in the sh1ttish isles.
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 10:06am Thu 20 Dec 07
Holy Willie is the funniest poster in the world.
I'd like to hear more of his thoughts.
Holy Willie is the funniest poster in the world.
I'd like to hear more of his thoughts.
Posted by: Bear, Glasgow on 6:43pm Thu 20 Dec 07
I have no sympathy for junkies its aw self inflicted. Less o em about the better. They scrounge money sayin its for food and stuff when it aint its for drugs. A lot o em dont wanna stop using.
I have no sympathy for junkies its aw self inflicted. Less o em about the better. They scrounge money sayin its for food and stuff when it aint its for drugs. A lot o em dont wanna stop using.
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