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£60 parking fine ... that's Asda price
 
 
 Drivers will be fined if they park in the wrong spaces at Asda
Drivers will be fined if they park in the wrong spaces at Asda
 

by John McCann

A MAJOR supermarket is to fine selfish drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children or disabled people.

Asda will introduce the new rules to Glasgow and the rest of Scotland on March 24 and is to use a private firm to enforce the fines.

Asda customer service manager Paul Hedley said: "We have decided to take a stand to keep specialised parking spaces available to those customers that need them."

All of the company's Scottish stores, apart from non-food outlets, will be covered by the fines.

Major stores including Govan, Toryglen, Kilmarnock, Paisley, Bearsden, Hamilton and Carluke will be covered.

Signs are to alert drivers to the penalties and Town and City Parking, DVLA-licensed to issue civil penalties, will enforce the rules.

Asda will be able to chase up non-payment through the courts.

The scheme comes after an Asda poll found four out of five of its customers thought the parking fines, trialed in England, should be extended nationally.

Bill Campbell, project manager for disability organisation Inclusion Scotland, said: "I very much welcome this initiative.

"It will certainly make life a lot easier for disabled drivers."

The fines follow a number of attempts by the supermarket to halt unauthorised parking, including loudspeaker messages and leaflet campaigns.

Money generated through the fair parking scheme will be donated to the Motability disabled travel project and Tommy's baby charity.

Tommy's chief executive, Jane Brewin, said: "Putting fines in place for parking misuse is a bold move by Asda but is the right one for giving parents with young children a helping hand."

MSP for Dumbarton Jackie Baillie has called for all disabled parking bays in Scotland to be enforceable - those outside homes or in shop car parks are not.

She said: "I don't think the majority of people realise the consequences that parking in a disabled bay can carry.

"I fully support what Asda is doing on this front. It is a very positive move."

Asda's priority parking spaces are reserved for disabled customers with a blue badge in their cars and for parents with a child under 12.

Publication date 11/01/08

Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 11:15am Fri 11 Jan 08
good!

i'm sure there will be those who disagree, but i think this is a fair and postive move to punish those ignorant individuals who abuse the parking allocation.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:20am Fri 11 Jan 08
You'd have to be nuts to disagreem the allocated parking spaces are nearest the entrance to their stores, so chancers like suits, taxi drivers, wee neds and stupid burds take these spaces because they have no regrad for disabled adults or adulkts with disabled children who they probably think shouldn't be at Asda in the first place, for which that attitude deserves to be backed up with a £60 fine, if it was me I'd charge more.

This scum who don't have any morals will soon have no choice in the matter, if they can't see the point of this, they're better off the road - full stop!

They have no excuse!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:23am Fri 11 Jan 08
What next: Asda private security staff (usually subcontracted) imposing on-the-spot fines - enforceable through the courts - to people they deem to be acting in an inappropriate manner, e.g. protesting about GM food?

This is the thin end of the wedge: the thick end of the wedge can be seen in any mid-west ghost town in the USA, where Wal-mart (Asda's parent company) has sucked communities to the bone while making obscene profits... be very afraid!
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 11:24am Fri 11 Jan 08
Morning TMC

Would you line them up against a wall and shoot them???

Taxi drivers.....grrrr, even just the mention of that occupation makes me angry!!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:38am Fri 11 Jan 08
workinhard wrote:
Morning TMC Would you line them up against a wall and shoot them??? Taxi drivers.....grrrr, even just the mention of that occupation makes me angry!!
Not that harsh, but it annoys me when arsewipe taxi drivers etc think they are more of a priority than a disabled person simply because they are fully mobile, whereas the disabled person may not be.

Its arrogant, filthy and it goes on all the time, I've even seen people in Tesco getting pushed out the way because they are disabled and are too slow for the people whose heads are stuck up their own bakeyholes!

Maybe this'll make them realise that there's other people less able than them to consider.

Taxi drivers? Hmmmmmmmmmm

Not a subject to be spoke about on here

You could raise it on http://whatdidyouhav
eforlunch.myfreeforu
m.org/

I'm sure there would be a few points raised about their customer service levels and the way they treat people, yes Hackney Taxi drivers, you have no escape (Don't tar everone with the same brush) but some of these dudes are pathetic and shouldn't be on the road full stop!
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 11:40am Fri 11 Jan 08
I do hate it when perfectly able bodied, but lazy, people park in disabled bays and I always say something to them but am usually met with a mouthful of abuse.
If they want the space, take the disability too.
However - can anyone explain the point of parent and child spaces? Why does someone with a kid need to be nearer the door? The kid either has legs or a pram - so why the priority (a serious question)?
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 11:44am Fri 11 Jan 08
Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park.

Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 11:47am Fri 11 Jan 08
witterquick wrote:
Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
i concur!
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 11:49am Fri 11 Jan 08
id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid!

one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Posted by: mrcoops, Falkirk on 12:02pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined?

Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish?

Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:05pm Fri 11 Jan 08
witterquick wrote:
Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Totally agree about the disabled thing, but Im not convinced about parent/child spaces. People who have kids take on the responsibility of looking after them and I dont think its appropriate for them to get priority (in any aspect of life, including this one).
No doubt all the parents will shout me down, but thats my view. I dont believe that anyone should get priority just by virtue of having a kid.
Posted by: Harry, Glasgow on 12:06pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Welkl done ASDA for taking this action. the time is long overdue for the government to take similar action covering all disabled parking places. Hopefully next in line will be similar fines for the idiots in 4x4s who think it's OK to park straddling two parking spaces.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 12:06pm Fri 11 Jan 08
£60 is not enough. Double it. The amount of times i have seen selfish scum take a disabled space aay from a more needy person is unreal. If you dont have a disabled badge and you park in those psaces, they should be clamped or towed away.
Posted by: Oz, Irvine on 12:10pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Has anyone tried getting a car seat out of car with someone parked next to it.

I agree totally with this fine and I hope disabled people who park in PArent and Child spaces are fined as well.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:12pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
witterquick wrote: Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Totally agree about the disabled thing, but Im not convinced about parent/child spaces. People who have kids take on the responsibility of looking after them and I dont think its appropriate for them to get priority (in any aspect of life, including this one). No doubt all the parents will shout me down, but thats my view. I dont believe that anyone should get priority just by virtue of having a kid.
That is a fair point, They think they are royalty considering that parents without cars have to wheel or carry their kids wherever they have to go, Asda has to recognise this or there could be live scraps in their car parks!
Posted by: Oz, Irvine on 12:12pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
witterquick wrote: Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Totally agree about the disabled thing, but Im not convinced about parent/child spaces. People who have kids take on the responsibility of looking after them and I dont think its appropriate for them to get priority (in any aspect of life, including this one). No doubt all the parents will shout me down, but thats my view. I dont believe that anyone should get priority just by virtue of having a kid.
So would you be happy to get your car door scraped by someone trying to get a car seat out?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:14pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Oz wrote:
Has anyone tried getting a car seat out of car with someone parked next to it. I agree totally with this fine and I hope disabled people who park in PArent and Child spaces are fined as well.
Thats discrimination against disabled people, for which you may be branded Hitler!

Considering that arsewipes are taking up disabled spaces in the first place, this is the whole point of Asda raising the bar on this one!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:16pm Fri 11 Jan 08
If Asda cares so much about disabled drivers then why did it cordon off a disabled parking space as a joke for a week in Stevenage, for F1 driver Lewis Hamilton in October 2007, causing an outraged local disabled couple to complain:

"Considering we knew Lewis wouldn't be shopping there that weekend as it was the Italian Grand Prix, it made me wonder what the management were thinking by keeping a humorous space, reserved for somebody that will never go shopping there, over disabled customers who may want to park there if all the blue badge bays are full."

Answer: Asda doesn't care about disabled drivers, they care only about obscene profits and getting a bit of free PR as their battle with Tesco heats up!
Posted by: david, spazmo space on 12:19pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I hope they give all that money to the disableds. They may have said that they do in the story, didnt bother reading it.
Posted by: Oz, Irvine on 12:21pm Fri 11 Jan 08
The Missing City wrote:
Oz wrote: Has anyone tried getting a car seat out of car with someone parked next to it. I agree totally with this fine and I hope disabled people who park in PArent and Child spaces are fined as well.
Thats discrimination against disabled people, for which you may be branded Hitler! Considering that arsewipes are taking up disabled spaces in the first place, this is the whole point of Asda raising the bar on this one!
Why is that discrimination. I have two children and when possible I use the P/C space but if none available I park somewhere else and hope someone doesn't park too close so I can open the door.

Yesterday in ASDA there was one P/C space left but a car got in first so I parked elsewhere and an elderly woman got out the other car and walked to the store. What was stopping here use one of the disabled bays
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:23pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Oz wrote:
glamkitty wrote:
witterquick wrote: Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Totally agree about the disabled thing, but Im not convinced about parent/child spaces. People who have kids take on the responsibility of looking after them and I dont think its appropriate for them to get priority (in any aspect of life, including this one). No doubt all the parents will shout me down, but thats my view. I dont believe that anyone should get priority just by virtue of having a kid.
So would you be happy to get your car door scraped by someone trying to get a car seat out?
It happens anyway, in other parking spaces where theres no parent'child priority. Unfortunately time and time again I am confronted with parents who think they have a god-given right to do what the like using the 'I have a child' defence.
Posted by: Oz, Irvine on 12:25pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
Oz wrote:
glamkitty wrote:
witterquick wrote: Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Totally agree about the disabled thing, but Im not convinced about parent/child spaces. People who have kids take on the responsibility of looking after them and I dont think its appropriate for them to get priority (in any aspect of life, including this one). No doubt all the parents will shout me down, but thats my view. I dont believe that anyone should get priority just by virtue of having a kid.
So would you be happy to get your car door scraped by someone trying to get a car seat out?
It happens anyway, in other parking spaces where theres no parent'child priority. Unfortunately time and time again I am confronted with parents who think they have a god-given right to do what the like using the 'I have a child' defence.
I'm not one of those parents. If I get a space I will. If not then I park elsewhere. I was just highlighting the difficulty putting car seats in and out of cars
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:25pm Fri 11 Jan 08
The Missing City wrote:
Oz wrote: Has anyone tried getting a car seat out of car with someone parked next to it. I agree totally with this fine and I hope disabled people who park in PArent and Child spaces are fined as well.
Thats discrimination against disabled people, for which you may be branded Hitler! Considering that arsewipes are taking up disabled spaces in the first place, this is the whole point of Asda raising the bar on this one!
Good grief. A disabled person has MUCH more right to, and need for, a space near to the door, than someone with a kid!!
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 12:29pm Fri 11 Jan 08
witterquick wrote:
Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park.

Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
The "parent & child spaces" are for parents with kids under the age of 12 - no wonder there is a problem with childhood obesity. Why not just priority for those with children under 5?

And don't start me on the able-bodied drivers who use their auntie's / mammy's blue badge as a free parking permit when the holder is not in the car. (and that includes Mr Anwar our leading human rights lawyer"
Posted by: Joe, Glasgow on 12:30pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Well done Asda.As somebody with a disabled family member(with permit) and a young child, i am sick of drivers who park in disabled or parent and child bays who should not be there!Oh, and by the way, i am a hackney carriage taxi driver and a lot of people writing on this site must not realise that most supermarkets have designated taxi ranks for taxis to ply for hire.Just ask the guy from Chewin the Fat(Anniesland Safeway!).Make sure you know your facts before sticking labels to our occupation!Any taxi driver illegally parked in a disabled or parent/child bay deserves all they get, a £60 fine.
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 12:33pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
Oz wrote: Has anyone tried getting a car seat out of car with someone parked next to it. I agree totally with this fine and I hope disabled people who park in PArent and Child spaces are fined as well.
Thats discrimination against disabled people, for which you may be branded Hitler! Considering that arsewipes are taking up disabled spaces in the first place, this is the whole point of Asda raising the bar on this one!
Good grief. A disabled person has MUCH more right to, and need for, a space near to the door, than someone with a kid!!
My thoughts precisely - I have never understood why the p/c spaces are nearer the door than the disabled ones.
Posted by: mrcoops, Falkirk on 12:34pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Disabled bays should be used only by disabled people, as they have the greatest need to park near the store.

Parent and child bays should be used only by people who have young children with them. These bays improve safety for the children.

Anyone who argues against this is just a selfish erse. Their argument is based around self interest and laziness. Basically, the are too selfish, fat or lazy to walk a few extra yards so would rather disabled people are disadvantaged, or kids put at risk.

Anyone who abuses a disabled or P&C bay is selfish. End of story.
Posted by: Joe, Glasgow on 12:35pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Also, i agree with the kid thing being stopped at 4 approx.Once a car seat is no longer required, the right to a p/c space should stop also.
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 12:36pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Sometimes things like this bug me! everyone wants to be treated the same yet "they" get special treatment !!!
Posted by: Oz, Irvine on 12:36pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I totally agree that disabled bays should be closer to the door. I couldn't care less if a P/C space was at back of car park all I look for is some room to put kids in car safely
Posted by: mrcoops, Falkirk on 12:38pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Oz wrote:
I totally agree that disabled bays should be closer to the door. I couldn't care less if a P/C space was at back of car park all I look for is some room to put kids in car safely
Well said!
Posted by: Sid Noggins, East End on 12:39pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Utter rubbish! The sign for a disabled parking bay is a person in a wheelchair. How many times have you seen a car pull into a disabled space and someone struggle out the car into a wheelchair? Never.

Most of those with the disabled badges should never have one in the first place. In my experience they can walk fine. Several of them have got a badge seemingly because they are fat or on the ridiculous ‘Incapacity Benefit’ and poor them can’t walk fifty metres from a normal parking space. They can walk round the supermarket well enough spending their benefit money.

The disabled parking con should be scrapped asap. And why don’t they pay for a parking bay in local authority and NCP car-parks??
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:39pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Oz wrote:
I totally agree that disabled bays should be closer to the door. I couldn't care less if a P/C space was at back of car park all I look for is some room to put kids in car safely
Ok, thats fair enough - I can see why you would need the extra space, but not to be right by the door.
I never, ever park in any of the special spaces, so it wont affect me one way or the other. In fact I always say something to anyone I see doing it, but they dont care, theyre only interested in their own convenience.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:41pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Oz wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
Oz wrote: Has anyone tried getting a car seat out of car with someone parked next to it. I agree totally with this fine and I hope disabled people who park in PArent and Child spaces are fined as well.
Thats discrimination against disabled people, for which you may be branded Hitler! Considering that arsewipes are taking up disabled spaces in the first place, this is the whole point of Asda raising the bar on this one!
Why is that discrimination. I have two children and when possible I use the P/C space but if none available I park somewhere else and hope someone doesn't park too close so I can open the door. Yesterday in ASDA there was one P/C space left but a car got in first so I parked elsewhere and an elderly woman got out the other car and walked to the store. What was stopping here use one of the disabled bays
I know people who are in their 60's and 70's, they work or are fully mobile and go to the gym etc. old age is not an excuse for being disabled (unless otherwise stated), if not, then older, selfish people are just using old age as an excuse for wanting to be lazy!

Anybody disagree?

Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 12:42pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Can't see any problem with this ruling,Park where your supposed to park story ended..
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:43pm Fri 11 Jan 08
My main gripe about old people is that they pile on rush hour buses (for free) and then expect a seat.
Those of us going to work HAVE to be on the buses at that time. THEY dont. Stop doing it!!! (Aside from anything, it would be a much more pleasant journey for them to be on a quiet bus...)
Posted by: mrcoops, Falkirk on 12:44pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Sid Noggins wrote:
Utter rubbish! The sign for a disabled parking bay is a person in a wheelchair. How many times have you seen a car pull into a disabled space and someone struggle out the car into a wheelchair? Never. Most of those with the disabled badges should never have one in the first place. In my experience they can walk fine. Several of them have got a badge seemingly because they are fat or on the ridiculous ‘Incapacity Benefit’ and poor them can’t walk fifty metres from a normal parking space. They can walk round the supermarket well enough spending their benefit money. The disabled parking con should be scrapped asap. And why don’t they pay for a parking bay in local authority and NCP car-parks??
Bitter, much?

This reads like a rant from someone who tried to abuse the system, and got refused for a blue badge.

You want people with genuine disabilities to be discriminated against because some people abuse the system? Pathetic.

The answer is to improve the system, not force people with genuine mobility problems to suffer even more hardship.

And why don't they pay? Because they are disabled! Cares are essential for them to allow any quality of life, not a luxury.
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 12:45pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Sid Noggins wrote:
Utter rubbish! The sign for a disabled parking bay is a person in a wheelchair. How many times have you seen a car pull into a disabled space and someone struggle out the car into a wheelchair? Never. Most of those with the disabled badges should never have one in the first place. In my experience they can walk fine. Several of them have got a badge seemingly because they are fat or on the ridiculous ‘Incapacity Benefit’ and poor them can’t walk fifty metres from a normal parking space. They can walk round the supermarket well enough spending their benefit money. The disabled parking con should be scrapped asap. And why don’t they pay for a parking bay in local authority and NCP car-parks??
lolzzaaa i do agree with some of this
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:46pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Sid Noggins wrote:
Utter rubbish! The sign for a disabled parking bay is a person in a wheelchair. How many times have you seen a car pull into a disabled space and someone struggle out the car into a wheelchair? Never. Most of those with the disabled badges should never have one in the first place. In my experience they can walk fine. Several of them have got a badge seemingly because they are fat or on the ridiculous ‘Incapacity Benefit’ and poor them can’t walk fifty metres from a normal parking space. They can walk round the supermarket well enough spending their benefit money. The disabled parking con should be scrapped asap. And why don’t they pay for a parking bay in local authority and NCP car-parks??
So what's the story for somebody with a disabled child?

You're spot on with the Benefits assessment and how they get free motors to scoot around in, but disabled people don't have to be in a wheelchair for them to be disabled.

There is people who care for people with various physical and mental difficulties (about a quarter of Glasgow people suffer some kind of brain damge, but are not declared disabled) however, genuine disabled people should be receiving top prority instead of being treated like afterbirth waiting to be incinerated!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 12:46pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I think children should be banned from supermarkets. Solves lots of problems: pester power, childhood obesity, weans getting stuck in the trolley wheels or trapped in freezers.

Aren't the pushy parent 4x4 brigade the most self-righteous arses. Ooh, my child is more imprtant than anyone else. No it isn't. Get real. If you're that worried about kids'welfare, their environment or what happens to then when they get hit by a car then why are you driving a two ton jeep?

All we had in my day was a Hillman Hunter. With plastic seats that you stuck to when you wore shorts and lost the skin off the back of your legs. No seat belts , nothing. Certainly no parent and child places. We had to take our luck with the traffic. Made the man I am now.

Fair enough about the disabled spaces though - just have to make sur that the people who use them are actually disabled.



Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:46pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I certainly dont have any problem with disabled drivers parking for free. What I do have a problem with is people borrowing a badge, when theyre not disabled. Its a horrible thing to do.
As for the obesity thing, really I dont class that as a disability. You can change it (in almost all cases), unlike most genuine disabilities. They SHOULD be walking further for the sake of their own health.
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 12:47pm Fri 11 Jan 08
What say you really??

discuss it properly here

http://whatdidyouhav
eforlunch.myfreeforu
m.org/index.php
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 12:49pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Good point about banning kids from the supermarket Pete (what a dream that would be) - but then half the parents would wail about a human rights violation and demand free babysitters for when they were out shopping...
Posted by: Sid Noggins, East End on 12:53pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Fair enough with the disabled children. But why do some parts of society think that have to park right next to the entrance? Will walking an extra thirty or forty metres kill them?

If you follow this argument through to it’s illogical end, we’ll have severely disabled people being allowed to drive their motors into the store and round the bleedin aisles.
Posted by: Sid Noggins, East End on 12:58pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Fair enough with the disabled children. But why do some parts of society think that they have to park right next to the entrance? Will walking an extra thirty or forty metres kill them?

If you follow this argument through to its illogical end, we’ll have severely disabled people being allowed to drive their motors into the store and round the bleeding aisles. Then if you’ve got a mild disability you can park near the door, if you’ve got kids then near the door but not too close, and if you’ve just got a sore leg then near the trolleys but away from the entrance. You’ll need to fill in a form as you enter the car-park assessing your level of need.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:58pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Sid Noggins wrote:
Fair enough with the disabled children. But why do some parts of society think that have to park right next to the entrance? Will walking an extra thirty or forty metres kill them? If you follow this argument through to it’s illogical end, we’ll have severely disabled people being allowed to drive their motors into the store and round the bleedin aisles.
Aye, like the wee auld granny fae the Irn Bru advert.

Fatties cannot walk 30 or 40 metres without sweating buckets or it hurts their legs or some tripe like that, so why do they choose to walk around a huge supermarket for an hour possibly two??
Posted by: jefstewa, govan on 1:04pm Fri 11 Jan 08
are they going to fine the police who park there swank merc or bmw outside the stores too?
Posted by: smarticus, Glasgow on 1:14pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I hope whilst they are at it this company actually try and verify that the car user is actually the person entitled to display the disability card on the vehicle. It is ridiculous the number of people that use parking permits to attain free parking or use disabled spaces that they are not entitled to when the card holder is not with the car. Will they also be verifying if the Mother and child space users actually have the children with them. You often see the 4 x 4 and bmw mums with car seats in the car using the designated spaces but the kids are at school or at home with the child minders.
Posted by: aunt sally, glasgow on 1:21pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
Good point about banning kids from the supermarket Pete (what a dream that would be) - but then half the parents would wail about a human rights violation and demand free babysitters for when they were out shopping...
I would ban old folk from the shops at lunch time and 5.30pm
Posted by: john_bhoy, on my high horse on 1:29pm Fri 11 Jan 08
This fine will not be a problem if people obey by the rules..true?
Posted by: pete, Bearsden on 1:32pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Well done ASDA - hope other stores follow suit.
Posted by: hightower, glasgow on 1:38pm Fri 11 Jan 08
i agree whole heartedly with asda on this. maybe the council (i know they dont know arse from elbow) should re-evaluate the blue discs and those who have them, giving them only to the folk who actually need them. Then there wouldnt be the lazy selfish respectless (is that a word) clowns parking for free and where they shouldnt.
Posted by: hightower, glasgow on 1:45pm Fri 11 Jan 08
maybe its disrespectful
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 1:47pm Fri 11 Jan 08
FIGHT!!!

LOL - i love it - this is what the ET drives us to. 54 posts and counting about a supermarkets policy on parking, yet there far more important and wide reaching stories which we are not allowed to comment on.

how about everyone who posted here pops over the the article about the wee wifey who is 108 and wishes her a happy birthday!!!
Posted by: auldman, Glasgow on 1:52pm Fri 11 Jan 08
There seems to be lots of parent baiting on this thread (common to anything where kids are involved on the site!). Dont forget your Mum is a parent too - do you bait her as much for having the audacity to give birth to you?!! On the subject of fines, it will turn out unworkable. Those who are enough of an erse to park in spaces set aside for people by the company who owns the land (and can therefore choose to do what they want with it based on their customer research!, will likely refuse to pay fines etc, and the Asda's etc of this world will not want the publicity relating to the court cases that arise. 1-0 to the inconsiderate erses!
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 2:04pm Fri 11 Jan 08
auldman wrote:
There seems to be lots of parent baiting on this thread (common to anything where kids are involved on the site!). Dont forget your Mum is a parent too - do you bait her as much for having the audacity to give birth to you?!! On the subject of fines, it will turn out unworkable. Those who are enough of an erse to park in spaces set aside for people by the company who owns the land (and can therefore choose to do what they want with it based on their customer research!, will likely refuse to pay fines etc, and the Asda's etc of this world will not want the publicity relating to the court cases that arise. 1-0 to the inconsiderate erses!
Its not parents per se that I object to - its the arrogance that very often comes with it.
In Edinburgh during the fringe this year, the street was clogged up people were walking practically single file. This woman barged past and elbowed me and I said, Im sorry, am I invisible? She looked me up and down and said (snootily) "I (with the emphasis on I) have a child".
So what?
I asked her, did she think that made her time more important than mine? Again she looked me up and down and said 'Of course it does'.
Seriously. She didnt even have her kid with her, as though that would have made it any better.
Ive seen this attitude a lot from parents.
Posted by: Scottish-n-Proud, partick on 2:05pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Burds? Wot about the selfish partners who sit and read the newspaper, in the bays, whilst the 'burd' is in the shop purchasing his steak beer etc...

Parent & Child - ever tried to open a pram whilst avoiding other cars - much like a wheelchair! These spaces are also larger to avoid the paint work of others cars being damaged by kids so keen to obtain the latest toy that they bash the heck out of any cars parked in regular bays.

Many a time i have passed all ranges of people in these spaces whilst my mother has had to walk across large carparks - Braehead, in order to shop. Some even have the brass neck to boast about it as they walk into the shopping centres. Yes I did hear you, you know how you are!
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 2:07pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Perhaps in this modern digital age, it would benefit disabled people/parents to shop online. I'm not saying they should get rid of these parking bays, but perhaps they should move some of them shuold be designated as normal parking spaces...
Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 2:10pm Fri 11 Jan 08
maybe ASDA should employ Jamie Oliver as their spokesman.....then he can make rash, controversial statements and once the brown stuff has hit the fan, simply retract them!
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 2:19pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Scottish-n-Proud wrote:
Burds? Wot about the selfish partners who sit and read the newspaper, in the bays, whilst the 'burd' is in the shop purchasing his steak beer etc... Parent & Child - ever tried to open a pram whilst avoiding other cars - much like a wheelchair! These spaces are also larger to avoid the paint work of others cars being damaged by kids so keen to obtain the latest toy that they bash the heck out of any cars parked in regular bays. Many a time i have passed all ranges of people in these spaces whilst my mother has had to walk across large carparks - Braehead, in order to shop. Some even have the brass neck to boast about it as they walk into the shopping centres. Yes I did hear you, you know how you are!
If a parent can't control their child's greed-driven behaviour, then thats really another issue...of very poor parenting.
Posted by: dopey32, Glasgow on 2:22pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I have just one issue with this fining, recently we have had to use disabled spaces to get my father out of the car, he has alzheimer's and struggles with mobility but we haven't been able to get a disability card either! Trying to get him out of a car requires the extra space at the side which simply isn't available in normal bays and to use a normal bay means parking miles away from the store, which in turn means trying to navigate him through a busy car park, it's a no-win situation.
Posted by: angrymum, glasgow on 2:23pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Well done ASDA . I hope that Morrisons,Tesco and Sainsburys follow this excellent idea. I park in the parent & child spaces and more often than not an oap will park next to me - but guess wot - no kids in the car . The spaces are there for a reason not to be abused by all and sundry because they can't be bothered walking the length of themselves.
Posted by: angrymum, glasgow on 2:24pm Fri 11 Jan 08
P.S. also very pleased that the money will be sent to charity and not Asda's pocket.
Posted by: auldman, Glasgow on 2:26pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
auldman wrote: There seems to be lots of parent baiting on this thread (common to anything where kids are involved on the site!). Dont forget your Mum is a parent too - do you bait her as much for having the audacity to give birth to you?!! On the subject of fines, it will turn out unworkable. Those who are enough of an erse to park in spaces set aside for people by the company who owns the land (and can therefore choose to do what they want with it based on their customer research!, will likely refuse to pay fines etc, and the Asda's etc of this world will not want the publicity relating to the court cases that arise. 1-0 to the inconsiderate erses!
Its not parents per se that I object to - its the arrogance that very often comes with it. In Edinburgh during the fringe this year, the street was clogged up people were walking practically single file. This woman barged past and elbowed me and I said, Im sorry, am I invisible? She looked me up and down and said (snootily) "I (with the emphasis on I) have a child". So what? I asked her, did she think that made her time more important than mine? Again she looked me up and down and said 'Of course it does'. Seriously. She didnt even have her kid with her, as though that would have made it any better. Ive seen this attitude a lot from parents.
Its a shame you put all parents in the same basket based on this though. Most are normal decent people who dont think they are special just coz they have weans- just like your Mum I bet!!
Posted by: auldman, Glasgow on 2:33pm Fri 11 Jan 08
witterquick wrote:
Perhaps in this modern digital age, it would benefit disabled people/parents to shop online. I'm not saying they should get rid of these parking bays, but perhaps they should move some of them shuold be designated as normal parking spaces...
We cant - our computers are all knackered because of children with sticky fingers clogging up the keyboards haha!! Either that or its old folk who have never owned a computer, or cant afford to buy one. Why dont all the able bodied childless couples who have loads of energy and loads of money (as theydont have expensive kids to run) go online instead!!
Posted by: Johnny, Glasgow on 2:34pm Fri 11 Jan 08
About time. I have 2 small children... and have witnessed people parking in the P&C with either no children or children of around 14... hardly what they were designed for i think, as some stores emphasise them as Parent & Toddler spaces. I always use the P&C spaces when i have the kids with me if i can get one, but have also used a disabled space when there were no P&C spaces, due to the lazy folk with no kids using them, and i have no quams in using them under those circumstances. On a seperate note though... how many folk have had their cars damaged when being parked in the normal spaces? Mines has been damaged a good few times, due to the space not being adequate or a***holes that can't park properly. I'd like to see all the parking bays allocated the same amount of space as the Disabled and P&C spaces, because the space allocated to them is the main reason i use them, not how close they are to the store entrance.
Posted by: sighthillman, Glasgow on 2:39pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Excellent news, very well done Asda.
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 2:44pm Fri 11 Jan 08
In this Country they even have a "Reserved" parking for pregnant women only. Of course, the disabled need a spot up front, but everyone else, a wee walk would do the world of good.
Posted by: Paul Bhoy, Glasgow on 2:54pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Asda's policy is a great idea.

Too many SELFISH people have the attitude that they are only courtesy bays therefore, I can park here if I wish.

Posted by: workinhard, Glasgow on 3:04pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Scottish Rose wrote:
In this Country they even have a "Reserved" parking for pregnant women only. Of course, the disabled need a spot up front, but everyone else, a wee walk would do the world of good.
they have 'mums to be' spaces at Asda Linwood. reckon thats up for a bit of abuse though....i mean how can you tell if a woman is pregnant if she's only in the early stages??
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 3:05pm Fri 11 Jan 08
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined?

Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish?

Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
Posted by: GAW, Glasgow UK on 3:05pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Stupid idea that will see Asda loose its "UKs favourite supermarket" tag.

Pretty stupid marketing campaign - fining your customers.

Asda have no authority to dish out fines. Regardless it will be completely unenforceable, so a total waste of time. Are Asda going to use their own profits to chase up tiny £60 fines in court? I think not!

What arrogance by Asda.
Posted by: mrcoops, Falkirk on 3:19pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
Where did I say that I was a parent, moron? I'm just capable of having consideration for others, which you clearly aren't.

You seem to have a hatred of children. I have news for you - you were one yourself once. And, judging by your ramblings, in many ways you still are.

In case you haven't realised, the human race needs to reproduce to survive - otherwise we die out. Although, in your case, that might not be such a great loss.
Posted by: Kevfire, Glasgow on 3:28pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I totally agree that disabled parking bays are fore disabled people and would never think of parking in one. However I actively seek out parent & child bays to park in. The poeple who think that they are a special case because they have a child are among the most selfish. These are the same poeple who will park in disabled bays when the parent and child bays are full and think that being the parent of a 9 or 10 year old still entitles them to an advantage over us less deserving people with no kids. Parents should realise that having children is a responsibility and not a disability.
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 3:34pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Is Asda really the 'UKs favourite supermarket'?

Personally I avoid it like the plague and find it is beaten in the 'most dismal shopping experience' only by Morrisons.
Posted by: RMH, Strathbungo on 3:41pm Fri 11 Jan 08
And on a related subject, can we see more action against Blue Badge Bandits? Check out them out in the metered areas around Anderston every morning: they park the car, pop the badge on the dash and stroll into the office without a care in the world and paying not one red cent for a whole day's parking.
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 3:44pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I actually like Morrisons! The most dismal shopping experience has to be Somerfield
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 3:52pm Fri 11 Jan 08
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
Where did I say that I was a parent, moron? I'm just capable of having consideration for others, which you clearly aren't.

You seem to have a hatred of children. I have news for you - you were one yourself once. And, judging by your ramblings, in many ways you still are.

In case you haven't realised, the human race needs to reproduce to survive - otherwise we die out. Although, in your case, that might not be such a great loss.
ooh my god yeah i didnt realise that the human race needs to populate to survive, wow thanks for that wee thought m8 youve chnaged my life! dont patronise me or talk to me like im some kinda idiot m8, and no i dont hate kids, what i hate are parents who dont take responsibility for thier kids and have convinced companies like ASDA to take it upon themselves to be jude, jury and fine disher, you can just run up ma hump pal, your obviously yet another P.C bully trying to flex his muscle
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 4:00pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Hope everybody who abuses the parking procedures gets the message...
Posted by: angrymum, glasgow on 4:02pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
Can you not have kids - is that the REAL problem with you. Can't stand parents cos you think they are getting treated better than you!!!
Posted by: angrymum, glasgow on 4:06pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Asda in Govan need to make the P&C parking brighter. Its too dark round the side of the building - a million miles away from the front door!!!!

Posted by: West Ender, Glasgow on 4:18pm Fri 11 Jan 08
aunt sally wrote:
glamkitty wrote: Good point about banning kids from the supermarket Pete (what a dream that would be) - but then half the parents would wail about a human rights violation and demand free babysitters for when they were out shopping...
I would ban old folk from the shops at lunch time and 5.30pm
Then we could ban people who don't use their own name when commenting on this website.

Then next, we could ban people who don't use their own name commenting on people who don't use their own name.

OK, who do we ban next?
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 4:21pm Fri 11 Jan 08
RMH wrote:
And on a related subject, can we see more action against Blue Badge Bandits? Check out them out in the metered areas around Anderston every morning: they park the car, pop the badge on the dash and stroll into the office without a care in the world and paying not one red cent for a whole day's parking.
That's not just Anderston - anywhere there are parking controls these days the blue badges are out in force. Walk up Cambridge (just one example) any day of the week and time of the day and yyou will be hard pushed to spot a car without a blue badge.
Posted by: auldman, Glasgow on 4:22pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
I'm sure your mum would be proud. Unless of course you see her as some selfish person who decided to spawn you just to replace herself. Or do you consider her a stupid lassie as well?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:23pm Fri 11 Jan 08
West Ender wrote:
aunt sally wrote:
glamkitty wrote: Good point about banning kids from the supermarket Pete (what a dream that would be) - but then half the parents would wail about a human rights violation and demand free babysitters for when they were out shopping...
I would ban old folk from the shops at lunch time and 5.30pm
Then we could ban people who don't use their own name when commenting on this website. Then next, we could ban people who don't use their own name commenting on people who don't use their own name. OK, who do we ban next?
That could be you!
Posted by: auldman, Glasgow on 4:29pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Kevfire wrote:
I totally agree that disabled parking bays are fore disabled people and would never think of parking in one. However I actively seek out parent & child bays to park in. The poeple who think that they are a special case because they have a child are among the most selfish. These are the same poeple who will park in disabled bays when the parent and child bays are full and think that being the parent of a 9 or 10 year old still entitles them to an advantage over us less deserving people with no kids. Parents should realise that having children is a responsibility and not a disability.
Yup Kevfire, including a responsibility to adhere to the rules of society and generally follow what is socially acceptable - such as not parking in places that the majority of society are rightfully set aside to protect the more vulnerable. Then again if it helps you feel like a rebel and gives you a real high level of self esteem as you see some Mum with a baby and toddler dodging through the car park traffic, who am I to judge you....
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 4:32pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Angrymum, that was a bit of an assumption there (forget who it was to) - the 'can you not have kids' comment.
Many of us (an increasing number in fact) simply dont want them and have no interest in them. Nothing sinister in that, its simply of no interest.
Which I guess is why we so often take the hump, when it seems we are expected to constantly support other people's children (financially or otherwise).
I have no problem with people having children, just as long as they can support them properly and control them properly. Sadly, that seems much less common than it once was.
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 4:48pm Fri 11 Jan 08
auldman wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
I'm sure your mum would be proud. Unless of course you see her as some selfish person who decided to spawn you just to replace herself. Or do you consider her a stupid lassie as well?
too far m8 way too far, my mums past away watch your mouth!
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 4:58pm Fri 11 Jan 08
angrymum wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
Can you not have kids - is that the REAL problem with you. Can't stand parents cos you think they are getting treated better than you!!!
how bloddy dare you come out wi a perosnal comment like that, who the hell do you think you are? you outta know ive reported you for that comment as ive reported the guy whos made a jibe at my mother (who happens to be deceased) i dont have kids cause i dont want them! and even if i did i would expect the rest of society to pay or be affected for MY DECISION i would support my kids MYSELF, heres why i cant stand parents!

"Asda in Govan need to make the P&C parking brighter. Its too dark round the side of the building - a million miles away from the front door!!!!"

aww what a shame eh its too far to walk aww yer poor wee legs!

Posted by: drunkenmonkey, Glasgow on 5:10pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Tesco stores that use car park monitoring companies enforce this fine and have done for years (silverburn for example) it's about time all companies started clamping down on these selfish people that are too lazy to walk a few yards.
Posted by: JohnD, Glasgow on 5:11pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Hello,
First of all this is NOT a *FINE* its a Civial Penalty Notice or in other words an INVOICE. You dont have to pay it at all FACT. Do a search on the internet and visit the forums about these private parking companies. They have never one a case in a court of law against someone refusing to pay.

They will take the registration of the car, pay DVLA £2.50 and get the registered keepers details. As the registered keeper you dont have to tell them who was driving the car at all, they cant force you to give up that information.

They will then hound you for payment, putting the money up each time and making all sorts of legal threats. They will then pass it on to a debt collector, just tell them when they contact you that the invoice is indispute, thats it. They cant do anything else unless they take it to court.

Next I know its not nice to park in disabled/child bays etc but under the Road Traffic Act these lines painted on the road on private ground mean nothing at all, you cant be charged for it.

If these companies continue to demand money then they are breaking the law themselves as they are harrsing you. If they say its a fine then its not. DONT PAY THEM A PENNY.

But, be nice and considerate to other users of the carparks so you dont get the hassale from these cowboys.

J
Posted by: Ronnie Cee, Glasgow West End on 5:17pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Well now, haven't we Scots shown ourselves up again? Imagine anyone in their right minds objecting to parking spaces for invalids and young mothers, especially in the massive parking areas provided by most supermarkets.

Protesters such as appear in these columns should imagine that THEY are invalids, really old, or that YOUR wife and young baby are being harangued by able-bodied numpties with no decency or respect. Maybe then you would alter the sickening stance that some of you adhere to.

We are supposed to be a civilised and caring society; some of today's contributors bear all the characteristics of a Nazi Camp Commandant...shame on you all! A fine of £60 is inadequate for the parasites who would ignore the infirm and the infants.
Posted by: chrisblair, coatbridge on 5:19pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Well done asda hope the rest of scotland follow suit and make it law .I work with disabled people and trying to park is a nightmare at times people that parking these bays that are not disabled are soselfish just to save them walking 20 yards more
Posted by: chrisblair, coatbridge on 5:20pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Well done asda hope the rest of scotland follow suit and make it law .I work with disabled people and trying to park is a nightmare at times people that parking these bays that are not disabled are soselfish just to save them walking 20 yards more
Posted by: angrymum, glasgow on 5:23pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ronnie Cee wrote:
Well now, haven't we Scots shown ourselves up again? Imagine anyone in their right minds objecting to parking spaces for invalids and young mothers, especially in the massive parking areas provided by most supermarkets. Protesters such as appear in these columns should imagine that THEY are invalids, really old, or that YOUR wife and young baby are being harangued by able-bodied numpties with no decency or respect. Maybe then you would alter the sickening stance that some of you adhere to. We are supposed to be a civilised and caring society; some of today's contributors bear all the characteristics of a Nazi Camp Commandant...shame on you all! A fine of £60 is inadequate for the parasites who would ignore the infirm and the infants.
TOTALLY AGREE WELL SAID
Posted by: JohnD, Glasgow on 5:25pm Fri 11 Jan 08
drunkenmonkey wrote:
Tesco stores that use car park monitoring companies enforce this fine and have done for years (silverburn for example) it's about time all companies started clamping down on these selfish people that are too lazy to walk a few yards.
You are so wrong. They cant enforce anything. Its a contract. Not a fine. Silverburn Tesco use Eurocarparks, they dont just issue INVOICES for parking on bits of tarmac with painted symbols on them (thats all it is), they will try and rip you off for money if you stay more than 4hrs and if you return within 4hrs they will try and INVOICE you for that as well.

Posted by: angrymum, glasgow on 5:26pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
angrymum wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
Can you not have kids - is that the REAL problem with you. Can't stand parents cos you think they are getting treated better than you!!!
how bloddy dare you come out wi a perosnal comment like that, who the hell do you think you are? you outta know ive reported you for that comment as ive reported the guy whos made a jibe at my mother (who happens to be deceased) i dont have kids cause i dont want them! and even if i did i would expect the rest of society to pay or be affected for MY DECISION i would support my kids MYSELF, heres why i cant stand parents! "Asda in Govan need to make the P&C parking brighter. Its too dark round the side of the building - a million miles away from the front door!!!!" aww what a shame eh its too far to walk aww yer poor wee legs!
Would you blame the parent if god forbid that you knocked down a child in a supermarket car park - whether it was your fault or not.

Also I was just pointing out that the P&C spaces at Govan were poorly lit but safer being away from the doors - you ****!!

Oh sorry are you going to report me again boo hoo
Posted by: Ronnie Cee, Glasgow on 5:26pm Fri 11 Jan 08
So, once again I feel ashamed to be a Scot. Some of today's contributors act like Nazi Camp Commandants. How can anyone in a 'so-called civilised and caring society baulk at providing separate parking places for invalids and infants. Surely everyone should be delighted to accommodate such citizens? But no, reading some of the horrifying comments in these columns make me despair of where humanity is heading.

A £60 penalty for taking up such a needed space, especially in the large parking areas provided by supermarkets should be unnecessary, decent people should obey the rules related to the infrm, aged and really young. Some of today's contributors are sub-human in the extreme. Shame on you!
Posted by: JohnD, Glasgow on 5:27pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ronnie Cee wrote:
Well now, haven't we Scots shown ourselves up again? Imagine anyone in their right minds objecting to parking spaces for invalids and young mothers, especially in the massive parking areas provided by most supermarkets.

Protesters such as appear in these columns should imagine that THEY are invalids, really old, or that YOUR wife and young baby are being harangued by able-bodied numpties with no decency or respect. Maybe then you would alter the sickening stance that some of you adhere to.

We are supposed to be a civilised and caring society; some of today's contributors bear all the characteristics of a Nazi Camp Commandant...shame on you all! A fine of £60 is inadequate for the parasites who would ignore the infirm and the infants.
If that was aimed at me I suggest you read the bit where I said people should not park in these bays and be considerate. Yet again someone gobbng off before reading the post.

Also its NOT a fine, its an invoice. Get your facts right before you post again.
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 5:36pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I chose p /c slot today....not realising Id commited a CRIME! I parked in a vacant asda carpark space , were at least 1000 empty slots, as its deid, and done my shopping. I am a parent and the kids were at school. Not with me...

I got interviewed by an evening times journalist and it hasnt even gone in your paper, ****, i even bought the newspaper as I hoped for 15mins of fame! lol

I have road tax, I didnt cause an obstruction, I dont abuse the system or park in disabled bays, am a mum with two young able bodied kids,and we walk and take stairs where possible, and today, I parked 1000 yards away from the store, in the empty carpark no one else goes to!

when asked for my views ,I said to the journalist, Im not bothered at all, could park anywhere-I have working legs, makes no difference to me, the car aprk was desserted far too many spaces, coudl fit anotehr superstore in their unused car park slots!!

spaces are too wee in ordinary aisles and folk hit your doors , and driving around in govan asda , folk are incredibly doatty and dont know what lane to be in i.e entering the 'GIVEWAY' ie exit signs to the car parks ? and its a one way system no one adheres to it, plus notices have been up for years 'no football parking' how can they endorse this?

Seems daft, no one cares about double parking at the front, the dogs that are tied up and howl, knackered trollies that run away fae you,lol, and private hires on the KEEP CLEAR and double yellows at front and those who double park blocking elderly disabled folk from being able to reverse back out! Some folk even park on the asda pavements at emergency exits, ie not even designated parking bays, are those idiots getting fined as well?

The carpark is laid out really crap for oldies, folk wi weans or disabled, worlds going mad though who cares as long as I get beans for 9p!!

ps the evening times reporter and her photographer lay in wait for 'culprits' who rule broke, and in effect, were blocking the whole carpark ,and causing an obstruction in their white car as parked up on the giveway dashes!

I note no traffic police ,who are located round the corner, nor asda staff came out and told them to leave !

ps to the wee weans who are arguing about humans ,weans, etc and folk this and people that, missing the point and degneeraring a deabte into a perosnal rant, why dont you go to asda and get soem shopping in, lol, as you will have a heart attack with the stress of arguing , why all the arguing when we all agree asda are greedy money grabbers!

I like their ready meals though....
Posted by: a_single_parent, Glasgow on 5:38pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Why should people with twin toddlers put them at risk by having to put the twin buggy on the road behind their car. In the line of cart?? Dont children have a right to be safe!!!!! Or do parents need to wait untill their child is hit by a car in a car park and and end up getting a disabled badge so they can lawfully access a parking space.
Posted by: Kevfire, Glasgow on 5:38pm Fri 11 Jan 08
auldman wrote:
Kevfire wrote: I totally agree that disabled parking bays are fore disabled people and would never think of parking in one. However I actively seek out parent & child bays to park in. The poeple who think that they are a special case because they have a child are among the most selfish. These are the same poeple who will park in disabled bays when the parent and child bays are full and think that being the parent of a 9 or 10 year old still entitles them to an advantage over us less deserving people with no kids. Parents should realise that having children is a responsibility and not a disability.
Yup Kevfire, including a responsibility to adhere to the rules of society and generally follow what is socially acceptable - such as not parking in places that the majority of society are rightfully set aside to protect the more vulnerable. Then again if it helps you feel like a rebel and gives you a real high level of self esteem as you see some Mum with a baby and toddler dodging through the car park traffic, who am I to judge you....
You appear to be under the mis apprehension that you have taken the moral high ground auldman by agreeing that anyone with children deserves special treatment over everyone who does not. There are a couple of flaws in your arguement however. 1. You appear to think that 'Rules of society' only include the groups of people that you approve of. i.e those with kids. Childless people in your view should just get on with it. Maybe we should ammend your 'Rules of Society' and let people with kids choose how many days they want to work a week or maybe give them free cars and fuel to make things less stressful,and 2. 'Socially acceptable' is not a term I would tend to use when refering to modern parents. Next time you see one of their offspring dropping litter or generally messing up the area in which you live complain to these parents and see what sort of 'socially acceptable' answer you get.
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 5:39pm Fri 11 Jan 08
i need a spellchecker...lets all hold hands and sing...we love asda carparks ...tra la la
Posted by: naylabour, glasgow on 5:46pm Fri 11 Jan 08
should fat people be classed as disabled now.....iv see quite a lot of fatties park in disabed spaces near the front door! i wonder why they are fat?
Posted by: a_single_parent, Glasgow on 5:46pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Kevfire wrote:
auldman wrote:
Kevfire wrote: I totally agree that disabled parking bays are fore disabled people and would never think of parking in one. However I actively seek out parent & child bays to park in. The poeple who think that they are a special case because they have a child are among the most selfish. These are the same poeple who will park in disabled bays when the parent and child bays are full and think that being the parent of a 9 or 10 year old still entitles them to an advantage over us less deserving people with no kids. Parents should realise that having children is a responsibility and not a disability.
Yup Kevfire, including a responsibility to adhere to the rules of society and generally follow what is socially acceptable - such as not parking in places that the majority of society are rightfully set aside to protect the more vulnerable. Then again if it helps you feel like a rebel and gives you a real high level of self esteem as you see some Mum with a baby and toddler dodging through the car park traffic, who am I to judge you....
You appear to be under the mis apprehension that you have taken the moral high ground auldman by agreeing that anyone with children deserves special treatment over everyone who does not. There are a couple of flaws in your arguement however. 1. You appear to think that 'Rules of society' only include the groups of people that you approve of. i.e those with kids. Childless people in your view should just get on with it. Maybe we should ammend your 'Rules of Society' and let people with kids choose how many days they want to work a week or maybe give them free cars and fuel to make things less stressful,and 2. 'Socially acceptable' is not a term I would tend to use when refering to modern parents. Next time you see one of their offspring dropping litter or generally messing up the area in which you live complain to these parents and see what sort of 'socially acceptable' answer you get.
I beg to differ not all modern parents are like that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: louise kirk, GLASGOW - drumchapel on 5:57pm Fri 11 Jan 08
i totally agree with fining people who park in disabled spaces,with all the money they get from people who park in those spaces asda should use the money to build a load more parking spaces and maybe more people would'nt park in disabled spaces.but its still no exucse to use disabled spaces.
Posted by: emma, Glasgow on 6:03pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Why do parents feel the need to take their offspring on buses/to shops etc in buggies etc. Make them walk! Socialise them into the ways of society not protected and ending up fat/useless and unaware of how people interact. Leave the wean at playgroup/with granny/your pal and get your shopping done in peace and peace for the rest of us who dont want to hear your wean screaming as it runs about.
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 6:03pm Fri 11 Jan 08
West Ender wrote:
aunt sally wrote:
glamkitty wrote: Good point about banning kids from the supermarket Pete (what a dream that would be) - but then half the parents would wail about a human rights violation and demand free babysitters for when they were out shopping...
I would ban old folk from the shops at lunch time and 5.30pm
Then we could ban people who don't use their own name when commenting on this website. Then next, we could ban people who don't use their own name commenting on people who don't use their own name. OK, who do we ban next?
Not ME!! My name is really Rose.(Rosemary actually) lol.
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 6:06pm Fri 11 Jan 08
should there be spaces for 'bay specific' slots for 'kinda stupid folk', 'folk over age of 65' ie men in bunnets, 'folk who canny park within white lines', 'folk who double park' , 'folk who liek to park on no stopping /keep clear signs', 'folk who drive wrong way in asdas one way system'? how about spaces marked for , 'single selfish men' near the front of the shop at the cash machines so they can park their beemers/4 by 4's (or crappy P reggy escorts if from govan), and nip in for their 6 pack of beer and one pint of milk and whatever fills half a basket!?

I have seen trollies in parent and child bays , alone, they dont get fined do they? is it only cars , trollies not in designated bus shelter thingies could maybe up for a fine next....watch this space..lol

no wonder the asda price ad shows someone smacking their own arse! :-)

ps any nice policemen reading who regularly go to asda for lunch or to arrest usual shoplifters, phhhwwooarrr ....often,I only shop at asda Govan to see the fine specimens in uniform...hehe

"smart prices, daft parking policies"!

children need to be kept safe thats a priority , those with disablities should always have priority and thats fair dos...it is something that I have not seen though, actual space abuse. Go to marks and spencers car park at newton mearns and see how snobby twats park!

big fancy 4 by 4's double parking and its ten times worse there are maybe a handful of crappily laid out disabled and p/c bays and no use at all.

inconsiderate drivers are everywhere, we have ALL done it in every carpark we are lazy sods and want near the shop esp if its pishing wet weather. us weegies are just lazy bastards!
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 6:16pm Fri 11 Jan 08
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Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 6:25pm Fri 11 Jan 08
angrymum wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
angrymum wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
Can you not have kids - is that the REAL problem with you. Can't stand parents cos you think they are getting treated better than you!!!
how bloddy dare you come out wi a perosnal comment like that, who the hell do you think you are? you outta know ive reported you for that comment as ive reported the guy whos made a jibe at my mother (who happens to be deceased) i dont have kids cause i dont want them! and even if i did i would expect the rest of society to pay or be affected for MY DECISION i would support my kids MYSELF, heres why i cant stand parents! "Asda in Govan need to make the P&C parking brighter. Its too dark round the side of the building - a million miles away from the front door!!!!" aww what a shame eh its too far to walk aww yer poor wee legs!
Would you blame the parent if god forbid that you knocked down a child in a supermarket car park - whether it was your fault or not.

Also I was just pointing out that the P&C spaces at Govan were poorly lit but safer being away from the doors - you ****!!

Oh sorry are you going to report me again boo hoo
well well, where to start, lets try and calm down eh, i'll start, i apologise if my previous comment was offensive, i didnt think before i typed!

do a degree i would question the parent so would the polis, what were they doing while thier kid was on a road in car park gettin ran over?

all im sayin is it IS wrong for asda to dictate (and fine) who can and can use a space with the exeption of diabled folk

alright let me put it this way! if i was on a bus and that bus was empty and i sat in the first seat you know the ones with big empty bit for prams, and a guy or lady wi a wean comes on and demands that i get fined cause im sitting in a seat thats primarily fir disabled,elderly and people wi kids is that acceptable? no it isnt! so why should i put up wi it in a car park cause big bad ASDA says so?

i just think we need to apply a bit of real world common sence and i think that something we can both agree on yeah?
Posted by: stuart miller, hinckley on 6:27pm Fri 11 Jan 08
I wish I had a pound for every time I have seen a so-called disabled driver get out of their car and walk to the store, without any difficulty. It must be too easy to forge these stickers.
Posted by: West Ender, Glasgow on 6:37pm Fri 11 Jan 08
The Missing City wrote:
West Ender wrote:
aunt sally wrote:
glamkitty wrote: Good point about banning kids from the supermarket Pete (what a dream that would be) - but then half the parents would wail about a human rights violation and demand free babysitters for when they were out shopping...
I would ban old folk from the shops at lunch time and 5.30pm
Then we could ban people who don't use their own name when commenting on this website. Then next, we could ban people who don't use their own name commenting on people who don't use their own name. OK, who do we ban next?
That could be you!
Quite frankly with the garbage on this site I considering banning myself from it!
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 6:37pm Fri 11 Jan 08
hate to say it yer right, easy to fake disabled badges ,any one of could probably run one up off the pc tonight if we had a scanner and printer, but lets assume someone has a genetic ailment or something that affetcs them in a varied way, and they apparently can walk easily, it would be unprovable unless a police man got close or traffic warden... weans not being present in a car in a parent child spot though, makes an easy target! or let your adult fit strapping lad jump about in your mobility car and display that bagde, but if kids are not present ye get fined (ye cnany forge them after all..lol)
Posted by: Kevfire, Glasgow on 6:38pm Fri 11 Jan 08
a_single_parent wrote:
Kevfire wrote:
auldman wrote:
Kevfire wrote: I totally agree that disabled parking bays are fore disabled people and would never think of parking in one. However I actively seek out parent & child bays to park in. The poeple who think that they are a special case because they have a child are among the most selfish. These are the same poeple who will park in disabled bays when the parent and child bays are full and think that being the parent of a 9 or 10 year old still entitles them to an advantage over us less deserving people with no kids. Parents should realise that having children is a responsibility and not a disability.
Yup Kevfire, including a responsibility to adhere to the rules of society and generally follow what is socially acceptable - such as not parking in places that the majority of society are rightfully set aside to protect the more vulnerable. Then again if it helps you feel like a rebel and gives you a real high level of self esteem as you see some Mum with a baby and toddler dodging through the car park traffic, who am I to judge you....
You appear to be under the mis apprehension that you have taken the moral high ground auldman by agreeing that anyone with children deserves special treatment over everyone who does not. There are a couple of flaws in your arguement however. 1. You appear to think that 'Rules of society' only include the groups of people that you approve of. i.e those with kids. Childless people in your view should just get on with it. Maybe we should ammend your 'Rules of Society' and let people with kids choose how many days they want to work a week or maybe give them free cars and fuel to make things less stressful,and 2. 'Socially acceptable' is not a term I would tend to use when refering to modern parents. Next time you see one of their offspring dropping litter or generally messing up the area in which you live complain to these parents and see what sort of 'socially acceptable' answer you get.
I beg to differ not all modern parents are like that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I conceed Auldman. You are right on that point and I was wrong. Not all modern parents are like that I agree.
Posted by: terencej72, g43 on 6:58pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Harry wrote:
Welkl done ASDA for taking this action. the time is long overdue for the government to take similar action covering all disabled parking places. Hopefully next in line will be similar fines for the idiots in 4x4s who think it's OK to park straddling two parking spaces.
Ithought luxury 4x4 drivers had their own special parking spaces reserved for them.

You know, the ones right outside the stores marked with 2 parallel yellow lines so they can park there because they are "so important and can't waste valuable time lookign for a parking space" and their just "nipping in and out for a couple of things and won't be a minute".

I'd go further i'd allocate spaces for pensioners as well.
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 7:15pm Fri 11 Jan 08
its is age discrimination as well, they class anyone aged 12 or over as an adult now!

and not allowed to be present in the designated space with an adult if not younger than 12.

'parent and child' term is used loosely what about pregnant woman 'with child' ,and what about my mum and me going into a bay? legally bound by age or is it ?
we are still parent and child, what about step parents ,uncles, and neices and nephews in with us?

ps some folk class their dug as their wean and most dugs in cars are aged under 12 so they can get away on a technicality!

"adult drivers with children under the age of 12 on board only" is too large a term
Posted by: terencej72, g43 on 7:32pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
mrcoops wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote: id gladly, curtiously and politely make room for a disabled person without question, but wait a minuite whats this i see? "A MAJOR supermarket is to fine "selfish" drivers £60 if they park in a space reserved for parents with young children" erm wait just a bloody minuite here Mr McCann, why the bloddy hell should i be subjected to a fine and be branded "selfish" by gutter reporters like you and the rest of you ilk! because somebody decided to shoot out a kid! one again the ET proves it has sweet FA in common with the people of glasgow, they would be as well renaming the paper the self-righteous times
Why should you be branded selfish and fined? Erm...maybe because, judging by your comments, you clearly ARE selfish? Parent and child bays are wider (see those yellow boxes on each side?!?) to allow parents to park buggies there SAFELY while they unload both shopping and young children. It is too much of a risk to park buggies BEHIND the car - in the path of other cars - especially when self-important, arrogant and selfish morons such as yourself are zooming into the disabled bays at 90 miles an hour to stock up on Bacardi Breezers and ready meals.
mrcoops, are you willing to provide your evedence that i drive at 90 miles and hour and drink bacardi breezers dont bloody dare presume you know me m8! for your information im actually just a regular guy whos sick tae the back **** teeth of people like you wi weans constantly acting like your entitled to special treatment just cause you DECIDED to spwan a kid to replace yourself, how about this one for size then, i propose that people who have kids should be made to have thier kids on a leash while in shopping centres cause the amount of times ive nearly fallen over some kid cause his maw is too busy eyeing up the latest dress in the window is unbelieveable, and abviously 90% of the time thier no dad to be seen, and also people with prams that RAM the back of your heels in puplic then give you a dirty look should be fined £70 sound fair? as to your regards to how much your devoted to your childs saftey if i had a penny for every time ive seen some stupid lassie put a shopping basket filled with every kind of heavy produce you can imagine ABOVE thier baby's heads or on the back of thier pram handles and then scream "oh my poor wean" when the pram almost goes flying caus of the weight id be a ruddy millionare! so dont talk to me about child saftey! M8!
F**king right mate!!!.

My car (a not inexpensive sports car) had it's rear quarter panel dented because a daft bint in a Chelsea tractor allowed her kid (who was about 5) wheel a laden trolley to her car which was next to mine (no i wasn't in a reserved space and neither was she). Predictably enough the kid lost control and the trolley banjoed my car causing £700 of damage.

Not that she was helpfull of course - she refused to talk about it was very rude so i took a note of her reg no, called my mate who is a police officer, made a complaint and they turned up at her door.

After a lawyer letter stating the CRIME REF I threatened to take her to court and her husband settled out of court I got damages, legal costs plus sundry expenses from him totalling nearly £2,000.
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 7:39pm Fri 11 Jan 08
terencej72, i know what you mean, i used to live in a very rough area of the south side, and grew up watching wee kids weck ma dad and my brothers cars/motorbikes, and thier parents were quite happy to wash thier hands of the situation without couging up a bloddy penny or even disiplining thier kids! they are all wee angels!
Posted by: terencej72, g43 on 7:59pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
terencej72, i know what you mean, i used to live in a very rough area of the south side, and grew up watching wee kids weck ma dad and my brothers cars/motorbikes, and thier parents were quite happy to wash thier hands of the situation without couging up a bloddy penny or even disiplining thier kids! they are all wee angels!
That happened to you too?

I was brought up in Shawlands I'm 35 years old.

There was a family lived beside me who's oldest son was 2 years younger than me . Their mum used to kick all 3 of her kids out of the house at 08:45 during School holidays to fend for themselves while she went to work. They used to jump all over cars, tip over plantpots and cause a rucuss. I beat 2 of them up one day after they threw a half brick at me, chased them home and their Auntie threw a hot cup of tea over me. Then their mum sent the police up to my door and i got summoned with my dad to the police station the next day.

When there the Sarge said "we've had numerous complaints about those boys over the past 3 years, they've been referred to the children's panel more than once".

Surprise surprise the oldest one is just out of the nick after serving a 16 year Jail sentence for kicking a gay guy to death in Queens Park when he was 16. The middle one turned out ok but the youngest one is the local drug dealer where he lives.

Yet her mum always protested "it's the neighbourhood/people pick on them/my boys wouldn't do that".

Yeah.

I cannot stand unruly kids especially those in Supermarkets. They should be banned!!!
Posted by: postie, glasgow on 8:07pm Fri 11 Jan 08
well done asda but from what i have seen the problem lyes with asda workers my wife is disabled and if you go to asda toryglen at tea time you will find most of the cars belong to staff we spoke to asda about this and were not bothered no blue badge in sight
Posted by: Steff, cumbernauld on 8:09pm Fri 11 Jan 08
JohnD wrote:
Hello, First of all this is NOT a *FINE* its a Civial Penalty Notice or in other words an INVOICE. You dont have to pay it at all FACT. Do a search on the internet and visit the forums about these private parking companies. They have never one a case in a court of law against someone refusing to pay. They will take the registration of the car, pay DVLA £2.50 and get the registered keepers details. As the registered keeper you dont have to tell them who was driving the car at all, they cant force you to give up that information. They will then hound you for payment, putting the money up each time and making all sorts of legal threats. They will then pass it on to a debt collector, just tell them when they contact you that the invoice is indispute, thats it. They cant do anything else unless they take it to court. Next I know its not nice to park in disabled/child bays etc but under the Road Traffic Act these lines painted on the road on private ground mean nothing at all, you cant be charged for it. If these companies continue to demand money then they are breaking the law themselves as they are harrsing you. If they say its a fine then its not. DONT PAY THEM A PENNY. But, be nice and considerate to other users of the carparks so you dont get the hassale from these cowboys. J
SPOT ON.
Posted by: Steff, cumbernauld on 8:10pm Fri 11 Jan 08
JohnD wrote:
Hello, First of all this is NOT a *FINE* its a Civial Penalty Notice or in other words an INVOICE. You dont have to pay it at all FACT. Do a search on the internet and visit the forums about these private parking companies. They have never one a case in a court of law against someone refusing to pay. They will take the registration of the car, pay DVLA £2.50 and get the registered keepers details. As the registered keeper you dont have to tell them who was driving the car at all, they cant force you to give up that information. They will then hound you for payment, putting the money up each time and making all sorts of legal threats. They will then pass it on to a debt collector, just tell them when they contact you that the invoice is indispute, thats it. They cant do anything else unless they take it to court. Next I know its not nice to park in disabled/child bays etc but under the Road Traffic Act these lines painted on the road on private ground mean nothing at all, you cant be charged for it. If these companies continue to demand money then they are breaking the law themselves as they are harrsing you. If they say its a fine then its not. DONT PAY THEM A PENNY. But, be nice and considerate to other users of the carparks so you dont get the hassale from these cowboys. J
SPOT ON
Posted by: postie, glasgow on 8:10pm Fri 11 Jan 08
well done asda but from what i have seen the problem lyes with asda workers my wife is disabled and if you go to asda toryglen at tea time you will find most of the cars belong to staff we spoke to asda about this and were not bothered no blue badge in sight
Posted by: casper, glasgow on 8:13pm Fri 11 Jan 08
what planet are these morons who believe that the disabled driver gets a new car free to swan about in,WE PAY FOR THE CAR YOU IDIOTS and anyone who parks in a disable space illegally deserves the 60 pounds fine,oh by the way the rules apply to all disable bays at the end of this month,thanks to the new bill passed by parliament,so get your money out the free for all has ended,and watch out all you people using the blue badge illegally it will cost you 1000 pounds when caught
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 8:34pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Can't really agree with this. My partner's grandmother is disabled, and I regularly give them a lift to Asda. I park in a disabled space, but I don't have an orange badge. However she has great difficulty walking and is rightly registered disabled. If Asda fined me £60, that would be the last time I ever shopped there! The real problem for me is abuse of the 'orange badge' system.. they should be looking into that as plenty people get a free car on the basis they have a sick relative, then barely ever or indeed never see that relative or give them a lift anywhere!!
Posted by: bipod, glasgow on 8:41pm Fri 11 Jan 08
maybe there should be better enforcement of those blue badge holders. In most supermarket car parks thses days there are plenty of thses disable stickers on beemer ranger rovers and those stupid red neck pick up trucks that take up about two spaces. If someone is disbaled how the hell do they get into something thats about 4 feet off the ground !!!

I wouldnt tust any of these enforcement companies anyway not only do they clock your details they have been spotted having a quick shufty at the tax disc and the contents of the vehicle sounds like a criminals charter to me
Posted by: ray, glasgow on 9:11pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Fining customers £60 and using traffic wardens is a way over the top why not just ban anyone parking in disabled bay's from the store?What about the abuse of the blue badge scheme are they going to weed out the folk who use it though not entitled to.Yes thin end of the wedge very worrying.
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 9:28pm Fri 11 Jan 08
terencej72 wrote:
Ladofglas25 wrote:
terencej72, i know what you mean, i used to live in a very rough area of the south side, and grew up watching wee kids weck ma dad and my brothers cars/motorbikes, and thier parents were quite happy to wash thier hands of the situation without couging up a bloddy penny or even disiplining thier kids! they are all wee angels!
That happened to you too?

I was brought up in Shawlands I'm 35 years old.

There was a family lived beside me who's oldest son was 2 years younger than me . Their mum used to kick all 3 of her kids out of the house at 08:45 during School holidays to fend for themselves while she went to work. They used to jump all over cars, tip over plantpots and cause a rucuss. I beat 2 of them up one day after they threw a half brick at me, chased them home and their Auntie threw a hot cup of tea over me. Then their mum sent the police up to my door and i got summoned with my dad to the police station the next day.

When there the Sarge said "we've had numerous complaints about those boys over the past 3 years, they've been referred to the children's panel more than once".

Surprise surprise the oldest one is just out of the nick after serving a 16 year Jail sentence for kicking a gay guy to death in Queens Park when he was 16. The middle one turned out ok but the youngest one is the local drug dealer where he lives.

Yet her mum always protested "it's the neighbourhood/people pick on them/my boys wouldn't do that".

Yeah.

I cannot stand unruly kids especially those in Supermarkets. They should be banned!!!
yeah m8 its bad right enough, but its gettin alot worse!
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 10:24pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
witterquick wrote:
Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Totally agree about the disabled thing, but Im not convinced about parent/child spaces. People who have kids take on the responsibility of looking after them and I dont think its appropriate for them to get priority (in any aspect of life, including this one).
No doubt all the parents will shout me down, but thats my view. I dont believe that anyone should get priority just by virtue of having a kid.
Way to go Glamkitty, why should parents be considered special cases just because they have a brat or two..
We that dont have children are already penalized in the work place as parents are given time off for the slightest thing nowadays,picking the kids up, parents night etc,etc but those that dont have children are forced to cover for them..
You wanted kids then you deal with it & that includes mother & toddler bays.
I make a point of parking in them but i draw the line at the disabled bays, though i do think that they are abused as well..
Go to any supermarket & nine times out of ten the person who the blue badge was obtained for will not even be in the car which makes a mockery out of the scheme.
Power to the childless among us, rise up my fellow **** & let your voice be heard..
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 10:24pm Fri 11 Jan 08
glamkitty wrote:
witterquick wrote:
Glamkitty - the reason these spaces are reserved for parents is because it's hard enough for a parent to carry their shopping to their car without having to worry about a toddler running through a car park. Able bodied people who park in disabled spaces should be.... disabled
Totally agree about the disabled thing, but Im not convinced about parent/child spaces. People who have kids take on the responsibility of looking after them and I dont think its appropriate for them to get priority (in any aspect of life, including this one).
No doubt all the parents will shout me down, but thats my view. I dont believe that anyone should get priority just by virtue of having a kid.
Way to go Glamkitty, why should parents be considered special cases just because they have a brat or two..
We that dont have children are already penalized in the work place as parents are given time off for the slightest thing nowadays,picking the kids up, parents night etc,etc but those that dont have children are forced to cover for them..
You wanted kids then you deal with it & that includes mother & toddler bays.
I make a point of parking in them but i draw the line at the disabled bays, though i do think that they are abused as well..
Go to any supermarket & nine times out of ten the person who the blue badge was obtained for will not even be in the car which makes a mockery out of the scheme.
Power to the childless among us, rise up my fellow **** & let your voice be heard..
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 10:29pm Fri 11 Jan 08
The word they edited was D.I.N.K meaning double income no kids but the ET in their wisdom must consider that offensive, knobheads
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 10:37pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Actually my true thoughts on this subject are this..Disabled folk all moan about wanting to be treated the same, im a person just like you etc etc, so why then do they require special parking spaces?..You cant have it both ways people..Lets be truthful here i am only saying what most of you think but are to PC to say it..Its a bit like the Emperors New Clothes here..
Posted by: kimbohope, renfrew on 11:28pm Fri 11 Jan 08
Dear Sir/Madam
Well done to Asda for there stance on misuse of parking spaces, Its about time the disable and family's get some help enforcing these spaces are not being abused. But please all badge holders display there passes the correct way up so the photograph is showing of the people entitled to the passes so there can be no come back that family members and friends are abusing the use of badges.
For your next campaign can you not help keep the traffic moving by highlighting the use of bus bays especially outside Govan shipyard and southern general hospital by workers that force the bus to stop in the middle of the road for passengers and bring all traffic to a halt, why can buses not be fitted with a front camera which could be used to photograph the offenders and also to make sure bus drivers use these bays when they are empty, this happens all over Glasgow and needs to be addressed, but once again well done Asda.


Posted by: weediv, Canada on 3:12am Sat 12 Jan 08
I fully agree with the disabled parking but it is a puzzle why moms with kids under 12 are allowed to park in special lots, I can see if it is babies but kids below 12 my goodness no wonder kids are getting fatter by the minute
Posted by: weediv, Canada on 3:20am Sat 12 Jan 08
There should be a limit on the age of the kid up to 12 is a joke kids are so used to getting driven all over the place now get them right up to the door to. as I said babies are different disabled kids to although I really don't think there are to many parents taking disabled kids shopping in a big supermarket
Posted by: weediv, Canada on 3:23am Sat 12 Jan 08
There should be a limit on the age of the kid up to 12 is a joke kids are so used to getting driven all over the place now get them right up to the door to. as I said babies are different disabled kids to although I really don't think there are to many parents taking disabled kids shopping in a big supermarket
Posted by: MrHooHa, Glasgow on 8:50am Sat 12 Jan 08
If you don't like it, vote with your feet and shop elsewhere. They'll soon get the message. I only use Asda's services to park my car when I'm at Ibrox.
C'mon the Gers!
Posted by: Carol Penman, Glasgow on 9:02am Sat 12 Jan 08
Congratulations to Asda. Hopefully other supermarkets will follow suit. Having had a disabled mother and now two young grandchildren I have encountered the problems of not being able to park in the designated space while watching the able bodied person/persons park in the disabled or the P & C space much to my frustration. Most of the people,I imagine, who are making negative comments about being fined are possibly the people who abuse the parking spaces and are now upset that they will be fined. What a society we now live in! Gone are the days of good manners. It seems to be a thing of the past. No holding doors open for women, no giving up your seat on public transport for an elderly or pregnant lady etc.etc. It's the I'm all right Jack attitude and to Hell with everyone else. I expect Asda will now not collect many fines as it will now effect the offenders pockets and they will park in the appropriate bay for their situation. I also agree that the age for child spaces should be lowered to perhaps 7 as I am sure we have all seen strapping teenagers pop out of the car with mum/dad! Also as a final note I hope Asda fine their own staff who are working in the store and decide to park their car in disabled/p/c spaces. This I have seen and reported to the store. Once again well done Asda
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Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 2:56pm Sat 12 Jan 08
O.K. so now start fining the drivers parking in motor cycle bays, and exempt bikers in car bays until there are sufficent numbers of bike bays to cater for all
Posted by: dietbrugirl, glasgow on 9:12pm Sat 12 Jan 08
disabled parking is a priority without question, however the disabled person in question must be present at the time. as too many people abuse the "disability" right, i.e. paid cars from our poor benefit system which too often are driven by irresponsible neds who have never worked a day in their lives.
the parent parking..... as a parent with 3 kids under 7, i'm in favour. for the people who have this negativity to this my instant response is, "get a life".... its hard enough trying to control your kids without some stuck up virgin, looking you up and down on the pasta isle, as your youngest takes a tantrum. we have to eat god sakes!!!!!!!!!
get a life, have children, they change your life, cant have it biologically........ adopt one, dont have the patience, its enough to admit this, then adopt at a distance and take some yoga classes and try to sympathise with us real life parents trying to make the best of it!!
Posted by: TsDad, Glasgow on 11:19pm Sat 12 Jan 08
I really cannot believe that amount of hostility towards parents that some people have shown in this. I'm a single parent widower. I can't leave my 2 year old with someone else to do shopping. Nor do I do any of the ridiculous stereotyped behaviour that some people have ranted about.

It is very straightforward. If using a pram or buggy it is safer if it is next to the car and off the roadway. Taking a child out of the car seat or putting him in needs room. They wriggle and squirm. It is awkward. You need to be able to secure the straps for their safety. If you cannot open the door fully as you are parked next to another car in the normal tight spaces it is a nightmare. It difficult enough for me a large man. It was even more difficult for my late wife as she was slight girl. For mothers with more than one child it must be dreadful.

P & C bays make the whole process easier and safer. Why can people not see that and just respect it?

There can be no argument. Abusing both P& C bays and particularly disabled bays is selfish. Any attempt to justify this action with accusations that blue badges are abused by some people or parents are all high and mighty is rather pathetic. It smacks of desperation from people who are too arrogant, ignorant and lazy to give people whose circumstances are different to their own a small break.

It is unbelievable hypocracy that some are saying that it is parents thinking that they are better than others. I would suggest that it those parking in these bays who do not qualify that believe themselves better than others. They certainly believe themselves better than parents, children, the disabled and the majority of good people who do respect the bays and do not use them when they do not qualify.
Posted by: inverclyde22, Inverclyde on 2:27am Sun 13 Jan 08
Well done ASDA, it's about time inconsiderate drivers were fined for parking in disabled bays. However, I do have to say that if all the disabled bays are full and I'm not able to park my car, which is provided by Motability, as I have MS, then I'll continue to park in a Parent & Child space, as I consider that in the poker game of life my BLUE BADGE is the winning hand.
Posted by: Master Bates, Loch Lomond on 2:40am Sun 13 Jan 08
I couldn't agree more with keeping disabled spaces free for those who need them and have them close to the entrance of the store for convenience.

I also think the supermarkets should make all the other car parking spaces the same size as the parent and child spaces. More space for all is what I say! Instead of being forced to squeeze your cars in like sardines and end up with bashed doors from other careless phuckers!
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 7:32pm Sun 13 Jan 08
the CROOKS would be delighted to pay 60 pounds fine for parking in a designated parking area, ....park car at asda, sell the dope in and around the area,drive home,replenish more dope, park in different spot, continue proceedure,( this by useing grannies blue card, or relatives child (nobody will question a driver in disabled spot), and no one saw a strange car in the immediate area, i am sure our countrys finest will have figured this little game.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 8:05pm Sun 13 Jan 08
the money asda is paying for hiring a security firm to police the car park would be better to pay for a driver with their own vehicle, the customers would have free delivery over a certain amount, good idea if 2 or 3 families split the bill, we used to split a taxi years ago and the groceries were ready for us as we phoned in beforehand, i still have my groceries delivered...ye canny whack it!.
Posted by: boab100, Uddingston on 10:39pm Sun 13 Jan 08
All supermarkets and other car parks should operate the same thing. The sooner these parasites are named and shamed and fined the better. What these selfish people don't seem to realise is, that if you wish to use facilities provided by someone else, you must abide by their rules. If you have a problem with that don't use the facilities, it is that simple.
Posted by: boab100, Uddingston on 11:06pm Sun 13 Jan 08
A call to arms all you disabled and P&C drivers out there. The next time you can't get a space in your designated area, park your car at right angles right behind the offender and go shopping. Can you imagine the look of horror on their faces when they return and can't get out until you decide you have finished browsing, shopping and having your lunch in the supermarket. My chuckle muscles are already going at the thought of it.
Posted by: boab100, Uddingston on 11:15pm Sun 13 Jan 08
MrHooHa wrote:
If you don't like it, vote with your feet and shop elsewhere. They'll soon get the message. I only use Asda's services to park my car when I'm at Ibrox. C'mon the Gers!
You are typical of the mindless, selfish, subintelligent morons that are prevalent in todays society. Only a complete and utter fully paid up moron could bring football into a debate about disabled parking. I'd have your car crushed and have barred from every football ground in the country for your antics.
Posted by: pinkgal, congers on 8:27am Mon 14 Jan 08
it's a little high , but it is an useful way to prevent the traffic accidents, there must be a strict rule t.... gals at http://pinkmingle. com think it reasonable... LO
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Posted by: dbosmith, Glasgow on 11:35am Mon 14 Jan 08
I have 3 children under the age of 4 and the child/parent parking spaces are really handy. Wider spaces are ideal for getting the little ones from their car seats. Too tight a space and this is very difficult. Also, closer to the door is helpful in terms of road safety. Those without a disability or children should park further away and accept it. After all, it only takes an extra miute or so to walk to the supermarket from one of the further away spaces.
Posted by: Biffo the bear, beano town on 11:45am Mon 14 Jan 08
boab100 wrote:
All supermarkets and other car parks should operate the same thing. The sooner these parasites are named and shamed and fined the better. What these selfish people don't seem to realise is, that if you wish to use facilities provided by someone else, you must abide by their rules. If you have a problem with that don't use the facilities, it is that simple.
Boab you are a politically correct NUMPTY,get a life you moron
Posted by: auldman, Glasgow on 1:26pm Mon 14 Jan 08
Ok - lets go witht economic arguement then. The average family with 2 kids and a car will on average spend a shed load more cash than any other group using the likes of Asda (all you rich guys and gals will be in M & S or Peckhams most of the time). Seems only fair that the people who spend the most should get the special attention extra perks. (Fuse lit, no stand well back........!)
Posted by: carlan1985, lanarkshire on 4:10pm Mon 14 Jan 08
i agree that ppl shouldnt park in disabled spaces if not disabled but it drives me bonkers wen disabled ppl park in parent@child spaces!!! so will the fines b imposed in that situation 2?
Posted by: ray, glasgow on 9:59pm Mon 14 Jan 08
boab100 wrote:
All supermarkets and other car parks should operate the same thing. The sooner these parasites are named and shamed and fined the better. What these selfish people don't seem to realise is, that if you wish to use facilities provided by someone else, you must abide by their rules. If you have a problem with that don't use the facilities, it is that simple.
parasites are named and shamed


Who pays for the mobility car and mobility allowance ? You are the Parasite ya old bobby .
Posted by: dipper, Lancashire on 7:37pm Tue 22 Jan 08
What a load of absolute rubbish!!!

1 DVLA do NOT licence anyone to issue civil penalties.All they do is provide details of the registered keeper - for a fee.
2 Any alleged infringement is subject to the law of contract and the only the driver can be party to it.It can only be enforced by a court order against the person alleeged to have broken the terms of the contract - ie the driver
Unlike penalties under the Road Traffic Act,the registered keeper is under no obligation to divulge the idenmtity of the driver.
3 If anyone is harrassed by these people employed by Asda or any other private landowner they should seek help from pepipoo on the internet
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