Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 11:32am Tue 15 Jan 08
Yeah just what Glasgow needs.. another hotel for sex tourists. This should be fought all the way. Why does an important piece of scottish history& architecture have to be bulldozed for a pointless hotel? Throw the planning application out. No more hotels or bars.
Yeah just what Glasgow needs.. another hotel for sex tourists. This should be fought all the way. Why does an important piece of scottish history& architecture have to be bulldozed for a pointless hotel? Throw the planning application out. No more hotels or bars.
Posted by: Alan, West End on 12:50pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Can't see any of the West-End NIMBY's embracing this one...
Can't see any of the West-End NIMBY's embracing this one...
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 2:07pm Tue 15 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Meep[/bold] wrote:
Yeah just what Glasgow needs.. another hotel for sex tourists. This should be fought all the way. Why does an important piece of scottish history& architecture have to be bulldozed for a pointless hotel? Throw the planning application out. No more hotels or bars.[/quote] The hotel will be in the former Queen Margaret College building Meep, this won't be getting bulldozed as it's listed and a rarther attractive piece of architecture. What will be getting demolished is everything else on Hamilton Drive, from the old 'west gates' to the eastern gate, where vehicles accessed the BBC.
None of that is listed and is generally speaking good old fashioned 1960/70's square shaped office blocks and studio space.
Personally I think it's impossible to get anything built in the west end these days without some gang of Nimby's doing their best to prevent it. I recently heard complaints from residents on Hamilton Drive saying the new development would ruin their view of the riverside. I guess that only applies to the one's that can see past the the tall trees in their gardens and the exisiting multi-storey BBC Scotland buildings ?
Meep wrote:
Yeah just what Glasgow needs.. another hotel for sex tourists. This should be fought all the way. Why does an important piece of scottish history& architecture have to be bulldozed for a pointless hotel? Throw the planning application out. No more hotels or bars.
The hotel will be in the former Queen Margaret College building Meep, this won't be getting bulldozed as it's listed and a rarther attractive piece of architecture. What will be getting demolished is everything else on Hamilton Drive, from the old 'west gates' to the eastern gate, where vehicles accessed the BBC.
None of that is listed and is generally speaking good old fashioned 1960/70's square shaped office blocks and studio space.
Personally I think it's impossible to get anything built in the west end these days without some gang of Nimby's doing their best to prevent it. I recently heard complaints from residents on Hamilton Drive saying the new development would ruin their view of the riverside. I guess that only applies to the one's that can see past the the tall trees in their gardens and the exisiting multi-storey BBC Scotland buildings ?
Posted by: Zanardi, Glasgow on 2:11pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Jeesaw Meep - are you sex obsessed? Has it been awhile? Maybe you should seek occasional exposure to sunlight now and again
Jeesaw Meep - are you sex obsessed? Has it been awhile? Maybe you should seek occasional exposure to sunlight now and again
Posted by: watz, glasgow on 2:50pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Meep, explain what you mean by 'for sex tourists' Is there a secret part of Glasgow that I'm missing out on?
Meep, explain what you mean by 'for sex tourists' Is there a secret part of Glasgow that I'm missing out on?
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 2:58pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety.
The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.
Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety.
The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 3:53pm Tue 15 Jan 08
[quote][bold]mulross[/bold] wrote:
Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety. The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.[/quote] I thought this was going to be a luxury hotel, not a public watering hole. Is it unreasonable to expect a hotel to have a bar and banqueting facility in it...? That's all it sounds like to me ? I suspect stories of a massive pub, hosting 400 delinquent people are a bit of an exaggeration to say the least...
mulross wrote:
Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety. The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.
I thought this was going to be a luxury hotel, not a public watering hole. Is it unreasonable to expect a hotel to have a bar and banqueting facility in it...? That's all it sounds like to me ? I suspect stories of a massive pub, hosting 400 delinquent people are a bit of an exaggeration to say the least...
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 3:55pm Tue 15 Jan 08
"More than 60 people" is not a lot in this part of town - it's more than 1000 against Tesco at the other end of the Byres Road!
Planning permission doesn't give the right to operate a licensed premises - but it doesn't seem likely that it'll be refused.
I'm looking forward to seeing what these "sex tourists" look like!
"More than 60 people" is not a lot in this part of town - it's more than 1000 against Tesco at the other end of the Byres Road!
Planning permission doesn't give the right to operate a licensed premises - but it doesn't seem likely that it'll be refused.
I'm looking forward to seeing what these "sex tourists" look like!
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 4:13pm Tue 15 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Big Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mulross[/bold] wrote:
Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety. The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.[/quote] I thought this was going to be a luxury hotel, not a public watering hole. Is it unreasonable to expect a hotel to have a bar and banqueting facility in it...? That's all it sounds like to me ? I suspect stories of a massive pub, hosting 400 delinquent people are a bit of an exaggeration to say the least...[/quote] There's no exaggeration - the bar is to accommodate 400 people (although that number will likely rise in the form of an "amendment"now that the applications has been granted.) There wil be a separate entrance for the bar from the street, so it is [bold]not[/bold] designed for hotel guests.
I just wonder how many of those who regularly post on here about the west end "nimbys" would be happy to have the Council granting numerous applications for late licenses in the immediate vicinity of their own house (assuming that they are in employment and need to get up for their work in the morning)?
Big Al wrote:
mulross wrote:
Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety. The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.
I thought this was going to be a luxury hotel, not a public watering hole. Is it unreasonable to expect a hotel to have a bar and banqueting facility in it...? That's all it sounds like to me ? I suspect stories of a massive pub, hosting 400 delinquent people are a bit of an exaggeration to say the least...
There's no exaggeration - the bar is to accommodate 400 people (although that number will likely rise in the form of an "amendment"now that the applications has been granted.) There wil be a separate entrance for the bar from the street, so it is
not designed for hotel guests.
I just wonder how many of those who regularly post on here about the west end "nimbys" would be happy to have the Council granting numerous applications for late licenses in the immediate vicinity of their own house (assuming that they are in employment and need to get up for their work in the morning)?
Posted by: Ian, Glasgow on 4:58pm Tue 15 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Meep[/bold] wrote:
Yeah just what Glasgow needs.. another hotel for sex tourists. This should be fought all the way. Why does an important piece of scottish history& architecture have to be bulldozed for a pointless hotel? Throw the planning application out. No more hotels or bars.[/quote] Meep you are talking absolute garbage again. Any hotel in ANY city in the world will have the odd person having it away with who they shouldn't. To say that we should stop any more hotels or bars in Glasgow is just a stupid thing to say.
Now be good and stop bleating on about the same things day in, day out (Prostitutes and the Subway)
Meep wrote:
Yeah just what Glasgow needs.. another hotel for sex tourists. This should be fought all the way. Why does an important piece of scottish history& architecture have to be bulldozed for a pointless hotel? Throw the planning application out. No more hotels or bars.
Meep you are talking absolute garbage again. Any hotel in ANY city in the world will have the odd person having it away with who they shouldn't. To say that we should stop any more hotels or bars in Glasgow is just a stupid thing to say.
Now be good and stop bleating on about the same things day in, day out (Prostitutes and the Subway)
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 6:03pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Mulross, I live on a main road in the vicinity (150m) of several pubs, restaurants and a two nightclubs (12 in total, I think).
None causes as much noise as the traffic, which is why we sleep at the back of the building like most folk in tenements.
Mulross, I live on a main road in the vicinity (150m) of several pubs, restaurants and a two nightclubs (12 in total, I think).
None causes as much noise as the traffic, which is why we sleep at the back of the building like most folk in tenements.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 6:05pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Also, as reported in The Herald, "critics of the scheme privately agree that the upmarket venue planned is unlikely to bring "loutish behaviour".
Also, as reported in The Herald, "critics of the scheme privately agree that the upmarket venue planned is unlikely to bring "loutish behaviour".
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 6:09pm Tue 15 Jan 08
[quote][bold]mulross[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Big Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]mulross[/bold] wrote: Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety. The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.[/quote] I thought this was going to be a luxury hotel, not a public watering hole. Is it unreasonable to expect a hotel to have a bar and banqueting facility in it...? That's all it sounds like to me ? I suspect stories of a massive pub, hosting 400 delinquent people are a bit of an exaggeration to say the least...[/quote] There's no exaggeration - the bar is to accommodate 400 people (although that number will likely rise in the form of an "amendment"now that the applications has been granted.) There wil be a separate entrance for the bar from the street, so it is [bold]not[/bold] designed for hotel guests. I just wonder how many of those who regularly post on here about the west end "nimbys" would be happy to have the Council granting numerous applications for late licenses in the immediate vicinity of their own house (assuming that they are in employment and need to get up for their work in the morning)? [/quote] So now it's going to have a "late licence" how late is that going to be ? Later than nearby Oran Mor, which holds substantially more than 400 people on it's premises.
'Bo-Bar' in the Hilton-Grosvenor Hotel has a seperate public entrance too, in fact it's a very public entrance nowadays isn't it.
I'm not sure I agree that part of town needs another bar either, but as said it's primarily a hotel. I don't see a 400 person capacity bar as being a very big one to be honest.
And yes, I am in employment... used to work in the very building we're discussing.
mulross wrote:
Big Al wrote: mulross wrote: Too late - just heard that the application has been granted in its entirety. The police are of the opinion that the Byres Road area is now at saturation point with licensed premise, but what does that matter - they're just the ones that have to attempt to deal the havoc that is caused.
I thought this was going to be a luxury hotel, not a public watering hole. Is it unreasonable to expect a hotel to have a bar and banqueting facility in it...? That's all it sounds like to me ? I suspect stories of a massive pub, hosting 400 delinquent people are a bit of an exaggeration to say the least...
There's no exaggeration - the bar is to accommodate 400 people (although that number will likely rise in the form of an "amendment"now that the applications has been granted.) There wil be a separate entrance for the bar from the street, so it is not designed for hotel guests. I just wonder how many of those who regularly post on here about the west end "nimbys" would be happy to have the Council granting numerous applications for late licenses in the immediate vicinity of their own house (assuming that they are in employment and need to get up for their work in the morning)?
So now it's going to have a "late licence" how late is that going to be ? Later than nearby Oran Mor, which holds substantially more than 400 people on it's premises.
'Bo-Bar' in the Hilton-Grosvenor Hotel has a seperate public entrance too, in fact it's a very public entrance nowadays isn't it.
I'm not sure I agree that part of town needs another bar either, but as said it's primarily a hotel. I don't see a 400 person capacity bar as being a very big one to be honest.
And yes, I am in employment... used to work in the very building we're discussing.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 8:34am Wed 16 Jan 08
Just another west end 'outrage'. Immediate and furious pre-fab reaction. Yawn. Here's a thing: if the people in the west end didnae use all the pubs all the time then people wouldn't see a quick buck in building more pubs. Something about supply meeting demand... See also expensive houses, overpriced coffee, Mini Coopers, yada yada...
Just another west end 'outrage'. Immediate and furious pre-fab reaction. Yawn. Here's a thing: if the people in the west end didnae use all the pubs all the time then people wouldn't see a quick buck in building more pubs. Something about supply meeting demand... See also expensive houses, overpriced coffee, Mini Coopers, yada yada...
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 10:17am Wed 16 Jan 08
I think them west ender types are just a bit upset that it's not being turned into a gallery or a "boutique" that they can waddle around "ooing" and "aahing" in.
I'd understand if this building was to be used as a half-way house (or a new home for those evicted from Parkview hotel etc), but it's just a hotel and some flats they're building. Are the precious gushes from the west end so threatened by more people joining their exclusive G11/12 club that they have to protest against every single development in the area??
Once they see that the Hotel has big windows to be seen from they'll be round there with their skinny mochaccinos and organic muffins in an instant. Hell, they could even use a part of the 400 capacity bar to plan their public meetings to discuss what else they want to protest about
I think them west ender types are just a bit upset that it's not being turned into a gallery or a "boutique" that they can waddle around "ooing" and "aahing" in.
I'd understand if this building was to be used as a half-way house (or a new home for those evicted from Parkview hotel etc), but it's just a hotel and some flats they're building. Are the precious gushes from the west end so threatened by more people joining their exclusive G11/12 club that they have to protest against every single development in the area??
Once they see that the Hotel has big windows to be seen from they'll be round there with their skinny mochaccinos and organic muffins in an instant. Hell, they could even use a part of the 400 capacity bar to plan their public meetings to discuss what else they want to protest about
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