Posted by: the man, moral high ground on 12:35pm Tue 29 Jan 08
I have seen "chips" and can confirm that he does not have a brain , shows no ability to excercise discretion ,completely ineffective and is stupidly politically correct therefor he is a real policeman and not a cheap imitation .
I have seen "chips" and can confirm that he does not have a brain , shows no ability to excercise discretion ,completely ineffective and is stupidly politically correct therefor he is a real policeman and not a cheap imitation .
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 12:45pm Tue 29 Jan 08
"The life-size cop has helped to get more drivers to stick to the 30mph limit".
Yeah, and there's evidence for this is there?
What an empty and futile gesture: self- righteous do-goodery given undeserved attention. What next - a cut-out of a big fat person outside the chippy? What will this self appointed mob decides to do something about next?
Still, now Mr Chips has been in the paper I give it about 20 minutes before he's torched by te local neds. Unless of course some deperately sad insular individual takes him home at night...?
"The life-size cop has helped to get more drivers to stick to the 30mph limit".
Yeah, and there's evidence for this is there?
What an empty and futile gesture: self- righteous do-goodery given undeserved attention. What next - a cut-out of a big fat person outside the chippy? What will this self appointed mob decides to do something about next?
Still, now Mr Chips has been in the paper I give it about 20 minutes before he's torched by te local neds. Unless of course some deperately sad insular individual takes him home at night...?
Posted by: Big Al, Glasgow on 1:27pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
"The life-size cop has helped to get more drivers to stick to the 30mph limit".
Yeah, and there's evidence for this is there?
What an empty and futile gesture: self- righteous do-goodery given undeserved attention. What next - a cut-out of a big fat person outside the chippy? What will this self appointed mob decides to do something about next?
Still, now Mr Chips has been in the paper I give it about 20 minutes before he's torched by te local neds. Unless of course some deperately sad insular individual takes him home at night...?[/quote] I'm not really sure why this is self-righteous do-goodery? If I were living on a street where a number of accidents have happened and motorist continued to speed through it, then I would be a bit worried about the safety of myself and my children.
What else should you do in that situation? Get the council to put in traffic calming measures? Get the police to sort it out? Not likely to happen any time soon.
You're right though, I do fear for Mr Chip's safety.
Pete wrote:
"The life-size cop has helped to get more drivers to stick to the 30mph limit".
Yeah, and there's evidence for this is there?
What an empty and futile gesture: self- righteous do-goodery given undeserved attention. What next - a cut-out of a big fat person outside the chippy? What will this self appointed mob decides to do something about next?
Still, now Mr Chips has been in the paper I give it about 20 minutes before he's torched by te local neds. Unless of course some deperately sad insular individual takes him home at night...?
I'm not really sure why this is self-righteous do-goodery? If I were living on a street where a number of accidents have happened and motorist continued to speed through it, then I would be a bit worried about the safety of myself and my children.
What else should you do in that situation? Get the council to put in traffic calming measures? Get the police to sort it out? Not likely to happen any time soon.
You're right though, I do fear for Mr Chip's safety.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 2:18pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Yes - ok - but what is an 'incident' and who makes that definition? What would have been at least informative and balanced reporting of this story would be comment from teh police - number of [italic]reportable[/italic] incidents, etc. The problem here is one of evidence and qualtifiability and at what point someone draws their own arbitrary line in the sand and deems it appropriate to 'take action'. Who are these people actually accountable to? No one.
They say the gerture is to 'highlight the dangers of speeding', not to respond to any specific incident. Their own website describes Mr Chipboard as a 'gimmick'.
Nobody wants cars speeding past their house. If someone were to be dstracted by Mr Chips to the extent that they drove into another car...? Well, that's a whole new quandry. The People's Front of Woodhill may have to mobilise their own counter-battalion of cardboard cut-outs just to keep order. It would be anarchy!
Yes - ok - but what is an 'incident' and who makes that definition? What would have been at least informative and balanced reporting of this story would be comment from teh police - number of
reportable incidents, etc. The problem here is one of evidence and qualtifiability and at what point someone draws their own arbitrary line in the sand and deems it appropriate to 'take action'. Who are these people actually accountable to? No one.
They say the gerture is to 'highlight the dangers of speeding', not to respond to any specific incident. Their own website describes Mr Chipboard as a 'gimmick'.
Nobody wants cars speeding past their house. If someone were to be dstracted by Mr Chips to the extent that they drove into another car...? Well, that's a whole new quandry. The People's Front of Woodhill may have to mobilise their own counter-battalion of cardboard cut-outs just to keep order. It would be anarchy!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 2:18pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Yes - ok - but what is an 'incident' and who makes that definition? What would have been at least informative and balanced reporting of this story would be comment from teh police - number of [italic]reportable[/italic] incidents, etc. The problem here is one of evidence and qualtifiability and at what point someone draws their own arbitrary line in the sand and deems it appropriate to 'take action'. Who are these people actually accountable to? No one.
They say the gerture is to 'highlight the dangers of speeding', not to respond to any specific incident. Their own website describes Mr Chipboard as a 'gimmick'.
Nobody wants cars speeding past their house. If someone were to be dstracted by Mr Chips to the extent that they drove into another car...? Well, that's a whole new quandry. The People's Front of Woodhill may have to mobilise their own counter-battalion of cardboard cut-outs just to keep order. It would be anarchy!
Yes - ok - but what is an 'incident' and who makes that definition? What would have been at least informative and balanced reporting of this story would be comment from teh police - number of
reportable incidents, etc. The problem here is one of evidence and qualtifiability and at what point someone draws their own arbitrary line in the sand and deems it appropriate to 'take action'. Who are these people actually accountable to? No one.
They say the gerture is to 'highlight the dangers of speeding', not to respond to any specific incident. Their own website describes Mr Chipboard as a 'gimmick'.
Nobody wants cars speeding past their house. If someone were to be dstracted by Mr Chips to the extent that they drove into another car...? Well, that's a whole new quandry. The People's Front of Woodhill may have to mobilise their own counter-battalion of cardboard cut-outs just to keep order. It would be anarchy!
Posted by: N.S.00, Glasgow on 2:26pm Tue 29 Jan 08
I can't understand why a cut out policeman would make me reduce my speed ? Surely a stinger to bust the tyres would be more effective.
I can't understand why a cut out policeman would make me reduce my speed ? Surely a stinger to bust the tyres would be more effective.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 2:55pm Tue 29 Jan 08
A cardboard stinger? Are you mad? That would be rubbish!
A cardboard stinger? Are you mad? That would be rubbish!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:01pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Did the AA not say last week that 20mph is actually doing more harm than good when it comes to pollution?
The story was in this very paper (even if it was very small)
Did the AA not say last week that 20mph is actually doing more harm than good when it comes to pollution?
The story was in this very paper (even if it was very small)
Posted by: Renegade on 4:48pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Now if cars are restricted to 20mph in built up areas, most motorists will have to remain in third gear, which will burn up fuel more quickly, which will then line the pockets of the oil companies even more.
Now if cars are restricted to 20mph in built up areas, most motorists will have to remain in third gear, which will burn up fuel more quickly, which will then line the pockets of the oil companies even more.
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 6:46pm Tue 29 Jan 08
great idea they should have one of these on every corner in glasgow then people would remember what a policeman looks like.
N.S.00, Glasgow on 2:26pm today--you would not know it was a cut out until you got near it although now everyone in glasgow will now be zoomimg by mooning at mr chips.
great idea they should have one of these on every corner in glasgow then people would remember what a policeman looks like.
N.S.00, Glasgow on 2:26pm today--you would not know it was a cut out until you got near it although now everyone in glasgow will now be zoomimg by mooning at mr chips.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 9:32pm Tue 29 Jan 08
The maker of Chip did not do a very good job. Chip's arms are inside the fluorescent vest. Back to the drawing board guys.
The maker of Chip did not do a very good job. Chip's arms are inside the fluorescent vest. Back to the drawing board guys.
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 9:32pm Tue 29 Jan 08
The race is on to see which neighborhood will build the first cardboard speed camera,mounted police, car, dog, inspector,station even, hope this does not give our cheapskate politicians any ideas,,,
The race is on to see which neighborhood will build the first cardboard speed camera,mounted police, car, dog, inspector,station even, hope this does not give our cheapskate politicians any ideas,,,
Posted by: The Chair, Bishopbriggs on 11:11pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Thanks to everyone for their comments. However I think that Pete needs some clarification, not only about the motives of the WRG, but of Chip.
Come on Pete...the website does not describe Chip as a Gimmick does it? I've re-checked. But essentially you are correct---a gimmick is something eye-catching to draw people's attention. Full page in the Evening Times --- job done!!
And as for reportable incidents...you sound like the Council that always says they can't do anything until someone is killed...we are saying why wait...do something NOW!
As for the more fuel argument- right again...the WRG will promote other ideas to recycle and protect the environment (see our website), but this is not about fuel consumption, it's more to do with life protection.
Finally, yes Chip Mk2 will have his arms changed so he doesn't look like he's wearing a strait-jacket.
Visit woodhillresidentsgro
up.org.uk to see what a positive residents group looks like.
Our next meeting will be held in the old Thomas Muir building on Monday 11th February at 7pm...Everyone is more than welcome to attend.
Thanks to everyone for their comments. However I think that Pete needs some clarification, not only about the motives of the WRG, but of Chip.
Come on Pete...the website does not describe Chip as a Gimmick does it? I've re-checked. But essentially you are correct---a gimmick is something eye-catching to draw people's attention. Full page in the Evening Times --- job done!!
And as for reportable incidents...you sound like the Council that always says they can't do anything until someone is killed...we are saying why wait...do something NOW!
As for the more fuel argument- right again...the WRG will promote other ideas to recycle and protect the environment (see our website), but this is not about fuel consumption, it's more to do with life protection.
Finally, yes Chip Mk2 will have his arms changed so he doesn't look like he's wearing a strait-jacket.
Visit woodhillresidentsgro
up.org.uk to see what a positive residents group looks like.
Our next meeting will be held in the old Thomas Muir building on Monday 11th February at 7pm...Everyone is more than welcome to attend.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 3:41am Wed 30 Jan 08
[bold]Posted by: The Chair, Bishopbriggs on 11:11pm Tue 29 Jan 08 Finally, yes Chip Mk2 will have his arms changed so he doesn't look like he's wearing a strait-jacket.[/bold]As an Ex-pat from Bishopbriggs - thank you. Nice to know Mk2 will have arms changed. I did visit your web sight - you are all doing a wonderful job.
Posted by: The Chair, Bishopbriggs on 11:11pm Tue 29 Jan 08 Finally, yes Chip Mk2 will have his arms changed so he doesn't look like he's wearing a strait-jacket.As an Ex-pat from Bishopbriggs - thank you. Nice to know Mk2 will have arms changed. I did visit your web sight - you are all doing a wonderful job.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 8:51am Wed 30 Jan 08
[quote][bold]The Chair[/bold] wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their comments. However I think that Pete needs some clarification, not only about the motives of the WRG, but of Chip. Come on Pete...the website does not describe Chip as a Gimmick does it? I've re-checked. But essentially you are correct---a gimmick is something eye-catching to draw people's attention. Full page in the Evening Times --- job done!! And as for reportable incidents...you sound like the Council that always says they can't do anything until someone is killed...we are saying why wait...do something NOW! As for the more fuel argument- right again...the WRG will promote other ideas to recycle and protect the environment (see our website), but this is not about fuel consumption, it's more to do with life protection. Finally, yes Chip Mk2 will have his arms changed so he doesn't look like he's wearing a strait-jacket. Visit woodhillresidentsgro up.org.uk to see what a positive residents group looks like. Our next meeting will be held in the old Thomas Muir building on Monday 11th February at 7pm...Everyone is more than welcome to attend.[/quote] Er, yes it does. It's in the publically available minutes of one of your meetings.
So, is the photo in the evening times actually meant to influennce the behaviour of drivers who use your street, or is to draw attention to you and your group?
Never been accused of sounding like a council before!
How are you elected to represent your community?
The Chair wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their comments. However I think that Pete needs some clarification, not only about the motives of the WRG, but of Chip. Come on Pete...the website does not describe Chip as a Gimmick does it? I've re-checked. But essentially you are correct---a gimmick is something eye-catching to draw people's attention. Full page in the Evening Times --- job done!! And as for reportable incidents...you sound like the Council that always says they can't do anything until someone is killed...we are saying why wait...do something NOW! As for the more fuel argument- right again...the WRG will promote other ideas to recycle and protect the environment (see our website), but this is not about fuel consumption, it's more to do with life protection. Finally, yes Chip Mk2 will have his arms changed so he doesn't look like he's wearing a strait-jacket. Visit woodhillresidentsgro up.org.uk to see what a positive residents group looks like. Our next meeting will be held in the old Thomas Muir building on Monday 11th February at 7pm...Everyone is more than welcome to attend.
Er, yes it does. It's in the publically available minutes of one of your meetings.
So, is the photo in the evening times actually meant to influennce the behaviour of drivers who use your street, or is to draw attention to you and your group?
Never been accused of sounding like a council before!
How are you elected to represent your community?
Posted by: McC, Denny on 11:49am Wed 30 Jan 08
I applaud the citizens' activism, taking the problem on their own shoulders, etc. I don't understand the resistance to that idea. And any intelligent community activist understands that a photo in the paper can help do the two-fold job of influencing behaviour AND having one's group's efforts acknowledged, and what's wrong with that? The public acknowledgement that a citizens group is DOING something about its own problems, getting responses, getting results -- helps other groups in other communities, who read the publicity, to have the courage and inspiration to tackle their own problems also. If people would spend less time criticizing community-minded efforts and give some of their time to helping these situations, we could get that much further along. In our own community we are tackling serious litter issues in this way. Again, I think what this group is doing is GREAT!!! Creative thinking, upbeat, energetic, even with a sense of humour - despite the fact that these issues can become demoralizing and daunting. You go!!!!
I applaud the citizens' activism, taking the problem on their own shoulders, etc. I don't understand the resistance to that idea. And any intelligent community activist understands that a photo in the paper can help do the two-fold job of influencing behaviour AND having one's group's efforts acknowledged, and what's wrong with that? The public acknowledgement that a citizens group is DOING something about its own problems, getting responses, getting results -- helps other groups in other communities, who read the publicity, to have the courage and inspiration to tackle their own problems also. If people would spend less time criticizing community-minded efforts and give some of their time to helping these situations, we could get that much further along. In our own community we are tackling serious litter issues in this way. Again, I think what this group is doing is GREAT!!! Creative thinking, upbeat, energetic, even with a sense of humour - despite the fact that these issues can become demoralizing and daunting. You go!!!!
Posted by: The Chair, Bishopbriggs on 4:15pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Oh Pete. I never checked the minutes...but then you never said the minutes. But you are correct...this is to raise the profile of the Group...and in turn we raise the profile of the issue affecting our community...or is it vice versa? The main thing is that something gets done, that things improve and we work together with everyone to achieve this.
We were not elected to represent our community, but then again are the people we elect to represent our community any more accountable?
If you stay in the 'Briggs please come along to the next meeting in the old Thomas Muir building on Monday 11th February at 7pm...Everyone is more than welcome to attend.
If we are only representing ourselves then we'll fade away, but as you'll see from the website (and the minutes) we are keen to involve as many people in the community as possible. Look forward to seeing you on the 11th.
Oh Pete. I never checked the minutes...but then you never said the minutes. But you are correct...this is to raise the profile of the Group...and in turn we raise the profile of the issue affecting our community...or is it vice versa? The main thing is that something gets done, that things improve and we work together with everyone to achieve this.
We were not elected to represent our community, but then again are the people we elect to represent our community any more accountable?
If you stay in the 'Briggs please come along to the next meeting in the old Thomas Muir building on Monday 11th February at 7pm...Everyone is more than welcome to attend.
If we are only representing ourselves then we'll fade away, but as you'll see from the website (and the minutes) we are keen to involve as many people in the community as possible. Look forward to seeing you on the 11th.
Posted by: lessur, b/briggs on 6:37pm Wed 30 Jan 08
seem to have got reaction from a couple of boy racers
seem to have got reaction from a couple of boy racers
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