Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 11:50am Tue 29 Jan 08
Keep your fingers crossed fpr a big freeze, minus 5 for 24hrs should shake any further defects. Better to them out the way now than wait until the butter is cut.
Keep your fingers crossed fpr a big freeze, minus 5 for 24hrs should shake any further defects. Better to them out the way now than wait until the butter is cut.
Posted by: DMac, Glasgow on 12:45pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Can anything actually be done properly in this country?
Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
Can anything actually be done properly in this country?
Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
Posted by: DMac, Glasgow on 12:45pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Can anything actually be done properly in this country?
Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
Can anything actually be done properly in this country?
Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
Posted by: Jim on 12:49pm Tue 29 Jan 08
My answer to the question you pose is that nothing can be done properly in this country. As you correctly suggest we seem to have lost all skills and ability...a nation of shoppkeepers and IT boffins
My answer to the question you pose is that nothing can be done properly in this country. As you correctly suggest we seem to have lost all skills and ability...a nation of shoppkeepers and IT boffins
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 1:06pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote:
Can anything actually be done properly in this country? Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.[/quote] Is the Clyde Tunnel finished or not ? My usual evening journey down a contra-flowed one side, appears to have gone back to normal. That said I'm so used to travelling in the inside lane now I don't take the outside one for fear of encountering traffic coming the other way.
As for the 'squinty bridge' fiasco, why not chop down the Millenium Tower thingee, let it topple across the river and call it a bridge. That way it does something useful and we get another bridge... lol
DMac wrote:
Can anything actually be done properly in this country? Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
Is the Clyde Tunnel finished or not ? My usual evening journey down a contra-flowed one side, appears to have gone back to normal. That said I'm so used to travelling in the inside lane now I don't take the outside one for fear of encountering traffic coming the other way.
As for the 'squinty bridge' fiasco, why not chop down the Millenium Tower thingee, let it topple across the river and call it a bridge. That way it does something useful and we get another bridge... lol
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 6:53pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Sounds like a job for whiteinch demolition.
Sounds like a job for whiteinch demolition.
Posted by: flyingscot, Crookston on 7:13pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote:
Can anything actually be done properly in this country?
Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.[/quote] I thought the tunnels were finished too. It wasn't their fault either that it was delayed, a fire in the EU meant the EU changed tunnel safety rules and hence the design had to be changed.
Things can and are done properly in this country all the time, the problem is 'Bridge doesn't have any problems, built on time and budget' doesn't sell newspapers.
DMac wrote:
Can anything actually be done properly in this country?
Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
I thought the tunnels were finished too. It wasn't their fault either that it was delayed, a fire in the EU meant the EU changed tunnel safety rules and hence the design had to be changed.
Things can and are done properly in this country all the time, the problem is 'Bridge doesn't have any problems, built on time and budget' doesn't sell newspapers.
Posted by: Jim on 8:52pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]flyingscot[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote: Can anything actually be done properly in this country? Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.[/quote] I thought the tunnels were finished too. It wasn't their fault either that it was delayed, a fire in the EU meant the EU changed tunnel safety rules and hence the design had to be changed. Things can and are done properly in this country all the time, the problem is 'Bridge doesn't have any problems, built on time and budget' doesn't sell newspapers. [/quote] Well give some examples then !!
flyingscot wrote:
DMac wrote: Can anything actually be done properly in this country? Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
I thought the tunnels were finished too. It wasn't their fault either that it was delayed, a fire in the EU meant the EU changed tunnel safety rules and hence the design had to be changed. Things can and are done properly in this country all the time, the problem is 'Bridge doesn't have any problems, built on time and budget' doesn't sell newspapers.
Well give some examples then !!
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 9:42pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Big Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote: Can anything actually be done properly in this country? Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.[/quote] Is the Clyde Tunnel finished or not ? My usual evening journey down a contra-flowed one side, appears to have gone back to normal. That said I'm so used to travelling in the inside lane now I don't take the outside one for fear of encountering traffic coming the other way. As for the 'squinty bridge' fiasco, why not chop down the Millenium Tower thingee, let it topple across the river and call it a bridge. That way it does something useful and we get another bridge... lol[/quote] brilliant!!I can see our councillors kicking themselves for thinking of this first
Big Al wrote:
DMac wrote: Can anything actually be done properly in this country? Work started on the Clyde Tunnel in 2004 for fire-proofing, new walls etc. The work was supposed to last 56 weeks, and is still ongoing! The tunnels are a toatal eyesore.
Is the Clyde Tunnel finished or not ? My usual evening journey down a contra-flowed one side, appears to have gone back to normal. That said I'm so used to travelling in the inside lane now I don't take the outside one for fear of encountering traffic coming the other way. As for the 'squinty bridge' fiasco, why not chop down the Millenium Tower thingee, let it topple across the river and call it a bridge. That way it does something useful and we get another bridge... lol
brilliant!!I can see our councillors kicking themselves for thinking of this first
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 9:44pm Tue 29 Jan 08
MY APOLIGIES..for not thinking of this first
MY APOLIGIES..for not thinking of this first
Posted by: flyingscot, Crookston on 11:56pm Tue 29 Jan 08
O.K, what about the Falkirk Wheel? Fantastic piece of engineering (and an innovation), that works well.
What about the refurbishment of Kelvingrove, the new water treatment plants in Milngavie, the re-building of the road from the Expressway to the M8, the M77 extension from Mearns to Kilmarnock, the GSO road and I could go on. Plenty of civil engineering projects that were completed with minimum fuss for the scales envolved.
O.K, what about the Falkirk Wheel? Fantastic piece of engineering (and an innovation), that works well.
What about the refurbishment of Kelvingrove, the new water treatment plants in Milngavie, the re-building of the road from the Expressway to the M8, the M77 extension from Mearns to Kilmarnock, the GSO road and I could go on. Plenty of civil engineering projects that were completed with minimum fuss for the scales envolved.
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 12:34am Wed 30 Jan 08
perhaps if they had built this bridge straight these problems would not have arisen.
perhaps if they had built this bridge straight these problems would not have arisen.
Posted by: wulmac, glasgow on 1:19am Wed 30 Jan 08
great we got the falkirk wheel etc no pressure there but when it comes to a real job when time and tide wait for no man some of our esteemed civil engineering companies like nuttals/carillion etc are an embarrassment i work for one of the big transport companies in britain who take all the blame for over runs etc but the large engineering companies that we depend on are a total joke when it comes to delivering a contract safely and on time they don't have a clue the skills they have are poor and the management a shambles,i may hear you say well why employ them but thats all we have in uk 2008 thank god for the poles at least they do a proper job
great we got the falkirk wheel etc no pressure there but when it comes to a real job when time and tide wait for no man some of our esteemed civil engineering companies like nuttals/carillion etc are an embarrassment i work for one of the big transport companies in britain who take all the blame for over runs etc but the large engineering companies that we depend on are a total joke when it comes to delivering a contract safely and on time they don't have a clue the skills they have are poor and the management a shambles,i may hear you say well why employ them but thats all we have in uk 2008 thank god for the poles at least they do a proper job
Posted by: wulmac, glasgow on 1:34am Wed 30 Jan 08
sorry if i sound negative but i was involved with one of the afore mentioned companies recently two days after squinty bridgegate and during the works they committed a cardinal sin in construction safety only to repeat the sin 12 hours later. frank spencer would have a riddy it's no wonder we read about them in the news.
sorry if i sound negative but i was involved with one of the afore mentioned companies recently two days after squinty bridgegate and during the works they committed a cardinal sin in construction safety only to repeat the sin 12 hours later. frank spencer would have a riddy it's no wonder we read about them in the news.
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