Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:30am Fri 1 Feb 08
Its been like that as far as i can remember it.Shawlands needs to be linked up to Metropolitan subway or transport system for it to sustain biz,
Its been like that as far as i can remember it.Shawlands needs to be linked up to Metropolitan subway or transport system for it to sustain biz,
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 11:56am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
Its been like that as far as i can remember it.Shawlands needs to be linked up to Metropolitan subway or transport system for it to sustain biz,[/quote] Agreed, is there any plans to include shawlands in an exstended subway system?
jim wrote:
Its been like that as far as i can remember it.Shawlands needs to be linked up to Metropolitan subway or transport system for it to sustain biz,
Agreed, is there any plans to include shawlands in an exstended subway system?
Posted by: hongkongphooey, Glasgow on 12:12pm Fri 1 Feb 08
I don't think we need the subway in Shawlands -we have excellent transport links through the existing rail and bus services. I think the rent increases on Shawlands Arcade, combined with the threat of Silverburn caused many businesses to leave in the last few years.
I don't think we need the subway in Shawlands -we have excellent transport links through the existing rail and bus services. I think the rent increases on Shawlands Arcade, combined with the threat of Silverburn caused many businesses to leave in the last few years.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 12:49pm Fri 1 Feb 08
Might I suggest that building a tourist attraction (say, a tree top walkway) in a nearby park (ooh, maybe Pollok?) might bring some more people into the area.
Might I suggest that building a tourist attraction (say, a tree top walkway) in a nearby park (ooh, maybe Pollok?) might bring some more people into the area.
Posted by: jkr, Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow on 2:04pm Fri 1 Feb 08
Delighted to see that something might happen to revitalise Shawlands an area I know very well and have noticed the number of empty premises recently, particularly in the shopping centre. Good for Shawlands and Strathbungo C.C. for taking the initiative to get things moving.
Delighted to see that something might happen to revitalise Shawlands an area I know very well and have noticed the number of empty premises recently, particularly in the shopping centre. Good for Shawlands and Strathbungo C.C. for taking the initiative to get things moving.
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 2:34pm Fri 1 Feb 08
All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)
All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 2:36pm Fri 1 Feb 08
As for bringing teh tube to Shawlands... I thought you said you want to help the area's shops...All the young turks will be taking teh tube to Hillhead and Kelvinbridge as soon as drink one more coffee in Beanscene! Please don;t build an extension to Shawlands...for the love of god!
As for bringing teh tube to Shawlands... I thought you said you want to help the area's shops...All the young turks will be taking teh tube to Hillhead and Kelvinbridge as soon as drink one more coffee in Beanscene! Please don;t build an extension to Shawlands...for the love of god!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 2:41pm Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Eh?[/bold] wrote:
All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)[/quote] Good point - I lived on Vicky Road at that time - what a mess. The Cooncil shoulld have its arse skelped for that one.
Eh? wrote:
All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)
Good point - I lived on Vicky Road at that time - what a mess. The Cooncil shoulld have its arse skelped for that one.
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 4:17pm Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Eh?[/bold] wrote:
All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)[/quote] Who would want to stay in Victoria road, the place is a midden.No I say get shawlands back to what it was, a fantastic area, great pubs, the doune castle,the Marlborough, the mulberry, the country club..shawlands can and will,be a match for the west end once again...
Eh? wrote:
All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)
Who would want to stay in Victoria road, the place is a midden.No I say get shawlands back to what it was, a fantastic area, great pubs, the doune castle,the Marlborough, the mulberry, the country club..shawlands can and will,be a match for the west end once again...
Posted by: Ian, Glasgow on 5:01pm Fri 1 Feb 08
Ah, good for the locals - Shawlands is great! :)
Ah, good for the locals - Shawlands is great! :)
Posted by: Rutherglen, Glasgow on 5:11pm Fri 1 Feb 08
That's odd - I thought AWG were exiting their joint ventures and were winding up their property development team.
That's odd - I thought AWG were exiting their joint ventures and were winding up their property development team.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 5:12pm Fri 1 Feb 08
The people here dissing the idea of a subway link for shawlands are missing the bigger picture here. Shawlands is the gateway station that would lead on to giffnock , Newton Mearns , and if they have vision East Kilbride. That is the size that the Glasgow area needs. Secondly i agree that Shawlands nightlife has got better over the years with good pubs and restaurants but that needs to be counterbalanced by having good shops during the day for the locals. I still dont understand why Sainsburys left the arcade. It was always busy.
The people here dissing the idea of a subway link for shawlands are missing the bigger picture here. Shawlands is the gateway station that would lead on to giffnock , Newton Mearns , and if they have vision East Kilbride. That is the size that the Glasgow area needs. Secondly i agree that Shawlands nightlife has got better over the years with good pubs and restaurants but that needs to be counterbalanced by having good shops during the day for the locals. I still dont understand why Sainsburys left the arcade. It was always busy.
Posted by: slam, Glasgow on 6:16pm Fri 1 Feb 08
Long overdue Shawlands has great potential.
Long overdue Shawlands has great potential.
Posted by: considered, Glasgow on 6:24pm Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Eh?[/bold] wrote: All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)[/quote] Good point - I lived on Vicky Road at that time - what a mess. The Cooncil shoulld have its arse skelped for that one.[/quote] Totally disagree with you Eh and Pete. While it is sad to see the demise of Victoria Road, it has never had the potential or the appeal of Shawlands. As for bars, clubs and restuarants Shawlands can stand with the best with places such as the Urban Grill, Waverly Tearooms and the Shed. No need to make comparisons with the west end as it is good to have a lively, social area both sides of the river.
Pete wrote:
Eh? wrote: All this gibber gabbering from Shawlands... Strathbungo (closer to Govanhill than Shawlands) never even made a whisper as Victoria road was being run down and amenities were being closed. Lets be honest Shawlands is the poor man's westend or the better-off southsider's govanhill. It's not that special an area...a cuple avearge delis, a bland faceless coffee shop on Skirvint st and some trully awful bars/nightclubs (Rosco's anyone?)
Good point - I lived on Vicky Road at that time - what a mess. The Cooncil shoulld have its arse skelped for that one.
Totally disagree with you Eh and Pete. While it is sad to see the demise of Victoria Road, it has never had the potential or the appeal of Shawlands. As for bars, clubs and restuarants Shawlands can stand with the best with places such as the Urban Grill, Waverly Tearooms and the Shed. No need to make comparisons with the west end as it is good to have a lively, social area both sides of the river.
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 6:45pm Fri 1 Feb 08
Dig a big hole, and plug with a car park and subway station. Shawlands is braw, worth a day oot.
Dig a big hole, and plug with a car park and subway station. Shawlands is braw, worth a day oot.
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 7:30pm Fri 1 Feb 08
was shawlands not revitalised a few years back.same will happen this time few years of being busy then downhill again.nobody can compete with the large supermarkets and centers like in polock/braehead.cath
cart rd failed in the eighties.victoria rd failed in the nineties now its shawlands turn.im not against trying to upgrade the shopping area i just dont see it surviving more than a couple of years.
was shawlands not revitalised a few years back.same will happen this time few years of being busy then downhill again.nobody can compete with the large supermarkets and centers like in polock/braehead.cath
cart rd failed in the eighties.victoria rd failed in the nineties now its shawlands turn.im not against trying to upgrade the shopping area i just dont see it surviving more than a couple of years.
Posted by: DiJit, Glasgow on 1:40pm Sat 2 Feb 08
The problem with Shawlands is simple. Parking is a nightmare enforced with a gestapo trained brigade of wardens.
I used to go there daily now I don't and thats the reason.
It's also one of the few places in my experience that operates both meters and wardens on a Sunday.
The problem with Shawlands is simple. Parking is a nightmare enforced with a gestapo trained brigade of wardens.
I used to go there daily now I don't and thats the reason.
It's also one of the few places in my experience that operates both meters and wardens on a Sunday.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 8:03am Mon 4 Feb 08
so where do you go instead, DiJit?
so where do you go instead, DiJit?
Posted by: stmonan, Glasgow on 1:45pm Mon 4 Feb 08
As with all the main drags on the South Side, the problem isn't the buildings or the shops/ bars/ restaurants - it's the stupid traffic management. The South Side is not exactly accessible to anyone who isn't local and hasn't forcibly learned to navigate the blocked off streets, one ways, bus lanes/gates and yellow lines everywhere.
When it's easier to drive to Tesco's in Silverburn for a pint of milk than pull up outside a shop on Victoria Road, there's only so much good polishing up a few buildings will do. Treating these places as focal points for their communities rather than urban clearways speeding the journey to the Mearns or Ayr it would be a start.
As with all the main drags on the South Side, the problem isn't the buildings or the shops/ bars/ restaurants - it's the stupid traffic management. The South Side is not exactly accessible to anyone who isn't local and hasn't forcibly learned to navigate the blocked off streets, one ways, bus lanes/gates and yellow lines everywhere.
When it's easier to drive to Tesco's in Silverburn for a pint of milk than pull up outside a shop on Victoria Road, there's only so much good polishing up a few buildings will do. Treating these places as focal points for their communities rather than urban clearways speeding the journey to the Mearns or Ayr it would be a start.
Posted by: smcgra11, shawlands on 1:42pm Sun 2 Mar 08
Shawlands Arcade needs to be gutted and restarted - it's like some horrible schemey arcade in one of these towns you see in England. A big car park underneath or on top of a revitalised arcade (can we come up with a new name too!) would surely be a big ease on the parking problem.
Also - should all of the clubs, bars and restaurants not be working together on their marketing? Rather than just the odds 'n' sods of flyers and occasional adverts you see now. They should be trying to get people from the CC and W.End over this side for nights out.
Shawlands Arcade needs to be gutted and restarted - it's like some horrible schemey arcade in one of these towns you see in England. A big car park underneath or on top of a revitalised arcade (can we come up with a new name too!) would surely be a big ease on the parking problem.
Also - should all of the clubs, bars and restaurants not be working together on their marketing? Rather than just the odds 'n' sods of flyers and occasional adverts you see now. They should be trying to get people from the CC and W.End over this side for nights out.
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