Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 10:58am Fri 8 Feb 08
After last night,When a gang dumped a car in St Enoch sq,and set it on fire ,have to design cars out of that area now.Awful
After last night,When a gang dumped a car in St Enoch sq,and set it on fire ,have to design cars out of that area now.Awful
Posted by: Gary, Parkhead on 11:46am Fri 8 Feb 08
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news.
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news.
Posted by: MrK, Paisley on 12:13pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Gary[/bold] wrote:
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news. [/quote] ooohhhhh - an entrance, with doors and eveything - get a grip its a shopping centre!
Gary wrote:
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news.
ooohhhhh - an entrance, with doors and eveything - get a grip its a shopping centre!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:24pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Gary[/bold] wrote:
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news. [/quote] I'm also struggling to contain my enthusiasm, but I must say I have serious concerns about whether this is indeed fantastic news for Glasgow.
No doubt it may ultimately be good news for private property development company Ivanhoe Cambridge, who control the St Enoch centre from Montreal, but the ongoing power struggle between the St Enoch and the Buchanan Galleries is making a wasteland of Argyle Street and Sauchiehall Street. The former in particular is turning into a monotonous procession of charity and 'pound' shops, with the odd newsagents... a bit like a mini-Paisley, but without the glamour!
Gary wrote:
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news.
I'm also struggling to contain my enthusiasm, but I must say I have serious concerns about whether this is indeed fantastic news for Glasgow.
No doubt it may ultimately be good news for private property development company Ivanhoe Cambridge, who control the St Enoch centre from Montreal, but the ongoing power struggle between the St Enoch and the Buchanan Galleries is making a wasteland of Argyle Street and Sauchiehall Street. The former in particular is turning into a monotonous procession of charity and 'pound' shops, with the odd newsagents... a bit like a mini-Paisley, but without the glamour!
Posted by: KB, Glasgow on 12:30pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Ever since the old hotel was demolished, the cooncil & friends have been trying their hardest to defend this hideous building.
Ever since the old hotel was demolished, the cooncil & friends have been trying their hardest to defend this hideous building.
Posted by: marty, Glasgow on 12:39pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gary[/bold] wrote:
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news. [/quote] I'm also struggling to contain my enthusiasm, but I must say I have serious concerns about whether this is indeed fantastic news for Glasgow.
No doubt it may ultimately be good news for private property development company Ivanhoe Cambridge, who control the St Enoch centre from Montreal, but the ongoing power struggle between the St Enoch and the Buchanan Galleries is making a wasteland of Argyle Street and Sauchiehall Street. The former in particular is turning into a monotonous procession of charity and 'pound' shops, with the odd newsagents... a bit like a mini-Paisley, but without the glamour![/quote] Agreed Argyle & Sauchiehall St. are getting pretty shabby with pound/charity shops moving into vacant lots.
It might seem odd, but shops do well when sited next to similar/rival shops - so a shoe shop would happily open next to a rival - unfortunately they don't want to open next to one of those dreadful DebRA charity shops full of smelly brown settees and chipped sideboards!
A touch dramatic to talk about a power struggle between the shopping centres at either end of Buchanan St! They serve quite different markets and attract a seperate demographic - it's like talking of a power struggle between Princes Sq and Paddys Market, only a little less exterme!
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Gary wrote:
Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news.
I'm also struggling to contain my enthusiasm, but I must say I have serious concerns about whether this is indeed fantastic news for Glasgow.
No doubt it may ultimately be good news for private property development company Ivanhoe Cambridge, who control the St Enoch centre from Montreal, but the ongoing power struggle between the St Enoch and the Buchanan Galleries is making a wasteland of Argyle Street and Sauchiehall Street. The former in particular is turning into a monotonous procession of charity and 'pound' shops, with the odd newsagents... a bit like a mini-Paisley, but without the glamour!
Agreed Argyle & Sauchiehall St. are getting pretty shabby with pound/charity shops moving into vacant lots.
It might seem odd, but shops do well when sited next to similar/rival shops - so a shoe shop would happily open next to a rival - unfortunately they don't want to open next to one of those dreadful DebRA charity shops full of smelly brown settees and chipped sideboards!
A touch dramatic to talk about a power struggle between the shopping centres at either end of Buchanan St! They serve quite different markets and attract a seperate demographic - it's like talking of a power struggle between Princes Sq and Paddys Market, only a little less exterme!
Posted by: Gary, Parkhead on 12:51pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote][bold]MrK[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gary[/bold] wrote: Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news. [/quote] ooohhhhh - an entrance, with doors and eveything - get a grip its a shopping centre![/quote] Hey, just cause paisley's been screwed over and now lacking a decent shopping centre, don't get bitter at this news.
Fact is 100 mill spent locally from private business is great news.
It didn't need to get spent. So what's the problem?
MrK wrote:
Gary wrote: Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news.
ooohhhhh - an entrance, with doors and eveything - get a grip its a shopping centre!
Hey, just cause paisley's been screwed over and now lacking a decent shopping centre, don't get bitter at this news.
Fact is 100 mill spent locally from private business is great news.
It didn't need to get spent. So what's the problem?
Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 1:54pm Fri 8 Feb 08
I think they should be concentrating on installing more easily accessible toilet facilities. To put these on the top level of the building is a disgrace. It seem to be a deliberate ploy to dissuade bona fide people from coming into the building but in fact it is a total "inconvenience" (if I can put it that way) to the shoppers. Particularly for disabled people, who have to ask an attendant for lift access to get up the final few feet to get to the toilet in the "gods". The last time I was there with my disabled wife the lift was out of order. The access to these floors is also a disgrace as you can find yourself on the wrong side of the mezzanine unable to get to the toilets without considerable back tracking. So it will be nice tyo have a shiny new entrance, but please get the basics right first!
I think they should be concentrating on installing more easily accessible toilet facilities. To put these on the top level of the building is a disgrace. It seem to be a deliberate ploy to dissuade bona fide people from coming into the building but in fact it is a total "inconvenience" (if I can put it that way) to the shoppers. Particularly for disabled people, who have to ask an attendant for lift access to get up the final few feet to get to the toilet in the "gods". The last time I was there with my disabled wife the lift was out of order. The access to these floors is also a disgrace as you can find yourself on the wrong side of the mezzanine unable to get to the toilets without considerable back tracking. So it will be nice tyo have a shiny new entrance, but please get the basics right first!
Posted by: gordyboy, glasgow on 2:02pm Fri 8 Feb 08
and know doubt that slimy little leach mckeever will be wringing his little hands as one of his upmarket hostels looks right on to it , a tasty little earner for this leach on the public purse...
and know doubt that slimy little leach mckeever will be wringing his little hands as one of his upmarket hostels looks right on to it , a tasty little earner for this leach on the public purse...
Posted by: Philbert, Glasgow on 2:17pm Fri 8 Feb 08
"DEVELOPERS behind the multi-million pound expansion of the St Enoch Centre are promising a startling new entrance to the city shopping mall"
Clearly, some people are easily startled - is it the electric lighting or the shiny, transparent windows that are the main attraction?
"DEVELOPERS behind the multi-million pound expansion of the St Enoch Centre are promising a startling new entrance to the city shopping mall"
Clearly, some people are easily startled - is it the electric lighting or the shiny, transparent windows that are the main attraction?
Posted by: iang on 3:25pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Who are the Developers? Are they a Scottish/British company? Do they employ locals or are their workers employed from elsewhere?
Tehy £100M is only any good for Glasogw if it is actualy spent here.
Who are the Developers? Are they a Scottish/British company? Do they employ locals or are their workers employed from elsewhere?
Tehy £100M is only any good for Glasogw if it is actualy spent here.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:51pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote]Are they a Scottish/British company?[/quote]
No they're private property developers based in Canada: they couldn't care less if locals are employed, only that it is done as cheap as possible.
Are they a Scottish/British company?
No they're private property developers based in Canada: they couldn't care less if locals are employed, only that it is done as cheap as possible.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 3:51pm Fri 8 Feb 08
This area has been crying out for redevelopmment for a long time ...
Used to be a vibrant part of town ...
Now its a no go area ...
This area has been crying out for redevelopmment for a long time ...
Used to be a vibrant part of town ...
Now its a no go area ...
Posted by: Aggie Bagwash, glasgow on 6:31pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Am I the only one who is sick of looking at building work in Glasgow?....it never seems to be finished...roads being dug up here...buildings pulled down there....its pot ugly by the way....these modern buildings tend to look very shabby when they get run down...whereas with the old buildings...a good sandblasting and they are as bright as a button...
Am I the only one who is sick of looking at building work in Glasgow?....it never seems to be finished...roads being dug up here...buildings pulled down there....its pot ugly by the way....these modern buildings tend to look very shabby when they get run down...whereas with the old buildings...a good sandblasting and they are as bright as a button...
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 6:38pm Fri 8 Feb 08
i think the facade looks good .time the centre was tarted up a bit.any investment is better than none.
i think the facade looks good .time the centre was tarted up a bit.any investment is better than none.
Posted by: McGinty, The North on 6:40pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote]Am I the only one who is sick of looking at building work in Glasgow?....it never seems to be finished...roads being dug up here...buildings pulled down there....its pot ugly by the way....these modern buildings tend to look very shabby when they get run down...whereas with the old buildings...a good sandblasting and they are as bright as a button...[/quote]
Agree entirely. Shoddy developers should be locked up.
Am I the only one who is sick of looking at building work in Glasgow?....it never seems to be finished...roads being dug up here...buildings pulled down there....its pot ugly by the way....these modern buildings tend to look very shabby when they get run down...whereas with the old buildings...a good sandblasting and they are as bright as a button...
Agree entirely. Shoddy developers should be locked up.
Posted by: AlanD, Glasgow on 6:45pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble.
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble.
Posted by: AlanD, Glasgow on 6:45pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble.
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble.
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 6:53pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote][bold]AlanD[/bold] wrote:
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble. [/quote] unfortunely in Glasgow the troubles in the building.
AlanD wrote:
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble.
unfortunely in Glasgow the troubles in the building.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 7:20pm Fri 8 Feb 08
I now count 46 cranes ... :-)
I now count 46 cranes ... :-)
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 9:52pm Fri 8 Feb 08
I like the idea of more eating places, but will there be more accomodation for customers to sit and eat? I stopped going there when I found on more than one occasion all seating was occupied indeed at one point the upper floor was closed off, I removed the barrier and remonstrated with someone from staff who objected, it seems ridiculous that the place is closed off during lunch time, probably the busiest time of the day, any way quite a number of diners had followed me upstairs by that time
Why doesn't Glasgow do something ambitious and put a roof on Argyle Street to Glasgow cross and revitalise the shops there and give us back our city instead of giving it away to non-UK based companies and individuals who can close places down or restrict accesses at will
I like the idea of more eating places, but will there be more accomodation for customers to sit and eat? I stopped going there when I found on more than one occasion all seating was occupied indeed at one point the upper floor was closed off, I removed the barrier and remonstrated with someone from staff who objected, it seems ridiculous that the place is closed off during lunch time, probably the busiest time of the day, any way quite a number of diners had followed me upstairs by that time
Why doesn't Glasgow do something ambitious and put a roof on Argyle Street to Glasgow cross and revitalise the shops there and give us back our city instead of giving it away to non-UK based companies and individuals who can close places down or restrict accesses at will
Posted by: watz, g31 on 11:19pm Fri 8 Feb 08
[quote][bold]AlanD[/bold] wrote:
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble. [/quote] aland - you would say building is good for a city, you're an architect! one of the most pre-eminant architects in glasgow.
AlanD wrote:
Outside my office window in London, I counted 19 cranes the other day. Building is good. A city that isn't building is in trouble.
aland - you would say building is good for a city, you're an architect! one of the most pre-eminant architects in glasgow.
Posted by: theshawl, Glasgow on 3:37pm Mon 11 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Are they a Scottish/British company?[/quote] No they're private property developers based in Canada: they couldn't care less if locals are employed, only that it is done as cheap as possible.[/quote] Sydney - do you work for them? clearly not so do not pass comment on their intentions. The purchase of this centre created lots of local jobs and generated huge inward investment for the city. The ongoing work which is not yet visible has created jobs and further investment for Glasgow. Are you telling me the building contractors are flying in labourers from Canada? Wrong, local labour local jobs. The money is being spent in the city. This is great for Glasgow, if it wasn't for forward thinking investors willing to spend their money in Glasgow and bring some vision then the city would be all the worse for it. Majority of our commercial buildings are owned by large prop cos and pension funds, a lot of whom are based outside the UK.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Are they a Scottish/British company?
No they're private property developers based in Canada: they couldn't care less if locals are employed, only that it is done as cheap as possible.
Sydney - do you work for them? clearly not so do not pass comment on their intentions. The purchase of this centre created lots of local jobs and generated huge inward investment for the city. The ongoing work which is not yet visible has created jobs and further investment for Glasgow. Are you telling me the building contractors are flying in labourers from Canada? Wrong, local labour local jobs. The money is being spent in the city. This is great for Glasgow, if it wasn't for forward thinking investors willing to spend their money in Glasgow and bring some vision then the city would be all the worse for it. Majority of our commercial buildings are owned by large prop cos and pension funds, a lot of whom are based outside the UK.
Posted by: Buddie, Paisley on 3:45pm Mon 11 Feb 08
[quote][bold]MrK[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gary[/bold] wrote: Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news. [/quote] ooohhhhh - an entrance, with doors and eveything - get a grip its a shopping centre![/quote] Yes Mr K, Paisley should get one too!
MrK wrote:
Gary wrote: Can't see the picture on the website but sounds great and £100 mill spent on this is fantastic news.
ooohhhhh - an entrance, with doors and eveything - get a grip its a shopping centre!
Yes Mr K, Paisley should get one too!
Posted by: Murraymint, Kilbarchan on 6:29pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Just to prove that things can't be that bad in Argyle Street, upmarket retailer Gant is presently re-locating from Buchanan Street to just beside the new entrance to the St Enoch Centre.
Just to prove that things can't be that bad in Argyle Street, upmarket retailer Gant is presently re-locating from Buchanan Street to just beside the new entrance to the St Enoch Centre.
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