Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 1:07pm Wed 13 Feb 08
It would be good if everyone was "responsible". factors, owners, tenants, ET reporters, MSP.
Can anyone find details of the 11-point plan or Ms Ferguson's Bill? If [italic]Public consultation on Ms Ferguson's Bill ends on February 29[/italic] I would like to have a look at it.
By the way the only reason that such a Bill has not been introduced before is that it will highlight the real cost of maintaining properties and show that owners get off with murder while the poor tenants pay the owners fair share for them.
It would be good if everyone was "responsible". factors, owners, tenants, ET reporters, MSP.
Can anyone find details of the 11-point plan or Ms Ferguson's Bill? If
Public consultation on Ms Ferguson's Bill ends on February 29 I would like to have a look at it.
By the way the only reason that such a Bill has not been introduced before is that it will highlight the real cost of maintaining properties and show that owners get off with murder while the poor tenants pay the owners fair share for them.
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 1:13pm Wed 13 Feb 08
no sign of it on the Scottish Govt website.
funny that??
no sign of it on the Scottish Govt website.
funny that??
Posted by: hongkongphooey, Glasgow on 1:20pm Wed 13 Feb 08
http://www.scottish.
parliament.uk/busine
ss/bills/pdfs/mb-con
sultations/propertyf
actors.pdf
Consultation ended on 20 Jan though...
http://www.scottish.
parliament.uk/busine
ss/bills/pdfs/mb-con
sultations/propertyf
actors.pdf
Consultation ended on 20 Jan though...
Posted by: hongkongphooey, Glasgow on 1:21pm Wed 13 Feb 08
http://tinyurl.com/2
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Easier link!
http://tinyurl.com/2
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Easier link!
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 1:26pm Wed 13 Feb 08
Thanks hkp
I am having some trouble getting that. Says "directory listing denied" I will try a bit longer.
Thanks hkp
I am having some trouble getting that. Says "directory listing denied" I will try a bit longer.
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 1:28pm Wed 13 Feb 08
thanks
gorrit now going to read it!
thanks
gorrit now going to read it!
Posted by: wattaj, Glasgow on 1:31pm Wed 13 Feb 08
[quote][bold]The X Factor[/bold] wrote:
Thanks hkp I am having some trouble getting that. Says "directory listing denied" I will try a bit longer. [/quote] You'll have to try to remove all the line breaks that the forum software inserts into the link.
I've been able to get through and am reading the cosultation document now.
Not too sure if it's the one mentioned in the article above though.
[bold]www.RateYourFactor.c
o.uk[/bold]
;-)
The X Factor wrote:
Thanks hkp I am having some trouble getting that. Says "directory listing denied" I will try a bit longer.
You'll have to try to remove all the line breaks that the forum software inserts into the link.
I've been able to get through and am reading the cosultation document now.
Not too sure if it's the one mentioned in the article above though.
www.RateYourFactor.c
o.uk
;-)
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 1:43pm Wed 13 Feb 08
ok read it..
It's not very long and seems aimed fairly and squarely at the private factoring business.
I think it looks fine and written in good faith. If I were a factor i would be happy to sign up and recover the cost of the scheme from my customers. (I am not being sarky saying that btw).
Like most of this, when the hyperbole is side-stepped you come to the conclusion that managing large numbers of homes within buildings and estates with lots of communal parts is difficult, necessary and expensive. As I said at the outset today, anything that gives power to whoever has to deliver this service is a good thing. On the public housing side I think it is likely to push up the amount recovered from owners however. On the private side I think people will opt out and the stories ET carried at the end of the week and earlier this week will become more common.
PS thanks wattaj
ok read it..
It's not very long and seems aimed fairly and squarely at the private factoring business.
I think it looks fine and written in good faith. If I were a factor i would be happy to sign up and recover the cost of the scheme from my customers. (I am not being sarky saying that btw).
Like most of this, when the hyperbole is side-stepped you come to the conclusion that managing large numbers of homes within buildings and estates with lots of communal parts is difficult, necessary and expensive. As I said at the outset today, anything that gives power to whoever has to deliver this service is a good thing. On the public housing side I think it is likely to push up the amount recovered from owners however. On the private side I think people will opt out and the stories ET carried at the end of the week and earlier this week will become more common.
PS thanks wattaj
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 2:15pm Wed 13 Feb 08
Just read the "charter" and got the lnk from ryf (not bad site btw!)
The "Charter" is obviously cobbled together over a coffe by Marianne and has a degree of patronising tabloid speak. eg not how to change your factor, its how to [italic]sack[/italic] your factor. Marianne is obviously from the [italic]thugs caged[/italic] school rather than assailants jailed. It then has the amusing caveat that factors shouldn't resist sacking (despite acknowledging that owners have the legal right anyway).
Anyhoo, the other problem with it is that it representsthe classic dilema. Full of additional services, post inspection of jobs, detailed breakdown of invoices, meetings twice a year with everyone, perfect information for everyone, alternative quotes for every job aboother than very minor workss - all to be funded from what? Its silent on that bit other than making the ridiculous statement - [italic][bold]inspect give breakdowns etc etc all as part of our existing management fee!!!![/bold][/italic]
Its all very depressing when I rememberthe ET as being a good wee paper.
Just read the "charter" and got the lnk from ryf (not bad site btw!)
The "Charter" is obviously cobbled together over a coffe by Marianne and has a degree of patronising tabloid speak. eg not how to change your factor, its how to
sack your factor. Marianne is obviously from the
thugs caged school rather than assailants jailed. It then has the amusing caveat that factors shouldn't resist sacking (despite acknowledging that owners have the legal right anyway).
Anyhoo, the other problem with it is that it representsthe classic dilema. Full of additional services, post inspection of jobs, detailed breakdown of invoices, meetings twice a year with everyone, perfect information for everyone, alternative quotes for every job aboother than very minor workss - all to be funded from what? Its silent on that bit other than making the ridiculous statement -
inspect give breakdowns etc etc all as part of our existing management fee!!!!
Its all very depressing when I rememberthe ET as being a good wee paper.
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 2:16pm Wed 13 Feb 08
ps sorry about the typos, I am doing this while driving along the M8
ps sorry about the typos, I am doing this while driving along the M8
Posted by: Schtum, Glasgow on 2:25pm Wed 13 Feb 08
[quote]Marianne is obviously from the thugs caged school rather than assailants jailed.[/quote]Priceless...
Love to see her write up the exploits of Tommy Sheridan.
I might even pay 40p for the paper copy. ;-)
Marianne is obviously from the thugs caged school rather than assailants jailed.
Priceless...
Love to see her write up the exploits of Tommy Sheridan.
I might even pay 40p for the paper copy. ;-)
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 2:30pm Wed 13 Feb 08
lol and swerves
fair point Schtum
lol and swerves
fair point Schtum
Posted by: Hugh Devine, Glasgow G46 on 8:31pm Thu 14 Feb 08
Part of problem is that current Title Conditions legislation is being ignored by Factors, condoned by Residents Associations and the Courts because progressive management rules are only Default Rules that can be ignored or rejected on the basis of outdated feudal Titles and local feudal based Constitution documents
Part of problem is that current Title Conditions legislation is being ignored by Factors, condoned by Residents Associations and the Courts because progressive management rules are only Default Rules that can be ignored or rejected on the basis of outdated feudal Titles and local feudal based Constitution documents
Posted by: Hugh Devine, Glasgow G46 on 8:48pm Thu 14 Feb 08
Several local MSPs are aware of the totally ineffective nature of the Management section of current Title Conditions legislation because Official Guidance on Default Rules has already been exploited in Court, and this legal loop-hole requires to be addressed by our legislators now, on an urgent basis, before factors can be brought to heel.
Several local MSPs are aware of the totally ineffective nature of the Management section of current Title Conditions legislation because Official Guidance on Default Rules has already been exploited in Court, and this legal loop-hole requires to be addressed by our legislators now, on an urgent basis, before factors can be brought to heel.
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 11:36pm Thu 14 Feb 08
Best route would be to re-rate (from council tax) private dwellings and then the isssue of basic factoring such as cleaning would fall to the council or GCC LLP.
Best route would be to re-rate (from council tax) private dwellings and then the isssue of basic factoring such as cleaning would fall to the council or GCC LLP.
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