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 Posted by: Scunnerd on 3:54pm Mon 18 Feb 08 The Council is totally to blame they inaugurated the ring road system which prevented anyone with any sense going near the town,this is the reason Paisley is now a shadow of place it was,the Council is flogging a dead horse!They are now doing the same to Renfrew Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 5:20pm Mon 18 Feb 08 Again, incompetent councillors failing to see what their brilliant plans/ideas really mean for the people who reside and work there ... Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 5:45pm Mon 18 Feb 08 People will make sacrifices to get to good retail locations - nobody really expects to drive straight into Glasgow city centre and park for free next to their favourite shop. But Paisley hasn't hardly the power to draw anyone these days so passing and convenience trade becomes more important. More people living in and around the centre will help too. Posted by: surfcrazedscot, Paisley on 6:01pm Mon 18 Feb 08 Scunnerd wrote:It was the previous Council that was to blame for the state of Paisley. Years of incompetent Labour rule reduced this once great town to a derelict mess. At least the new SNP/Lib-Dem council, elected in the May elections, seem to be trying to put things right although they have an uphill battle after the destructive polices of the useless Labour lot. Posted by: Grumpinuts, Erskine on 6:52pm Mon 18 Feb 08 Too little too late.....with Braehead / the Forge / Siverburn etc etc why would anyone want to come in to shop now in Paisley anyway? Posted by: Al Say, Paisley on 8:49pm Mon 18 Feb 08 What an "attraction" - a ghost town with a cenotaph surrounded by drunks, neds and drug dealers! Caused by previous lack of foresight (and apathy)in the damage it would do. To be fair to the political administrations past, present and future - none of them make decisions without indepth consultation with the High Heid Yins in the Council - THEY'RE the staff, the ones who've poorly advised AND they're still there to keep up their good work - the only change is to the administration they're fooling this time with their great ideas for an area they likely only spend time in when working! Where else but the Council would you get to make poor decisions and be allowed to reverse them some years later (which is clearly happening here) without any accountability for your poor judgement! Why don't the "decision-makers" have a vested interest in Paisley? Only then are we likely to see any pride restored in the place and its people. Posted by: JayBrown, Helensburgh on 10:34pm Mon 18 Feb 08 I have to agree with you 'Al Say'. I have been a Student at Paisley University for 3 years now and in that time so many shops have closed down!!! The prospectus that we were sent shows the entrance to the Paisley Centre with Thorntons, Millets and Marks and Spencers, the only decent shops in the town. I am fed up with people blaming Braehead, Paisley town centre is a nightmare to get around and parking charges should be dramatically reduced or scrapped altogether. Braehaed is open longer, free parking and has good shops, Glasgow is 100 times better and i dont mind paying for parking (i use shields Road Subway car park). Paisley has never been a great shopping destination, but for a town its size it could do a lot better. I suggest a similar plan used in an East London Borough, instead of focusing on retail focus on leisure and recreational. Have street cafes and more bars (a bit more sophisticated than the Last Post though) and some small very specialised shops catering to local needs. Braehaed is planning on expanding and i know where i would rather go, hmmm more shops, free parking and under cover or ghost town, ned and alkies galore!!!! Posted by: npinkerton, paisley on 9:39am Tue 19 Feb 08 Paisley is a nightmare to get round, there a couple of decent pubs which serve good food in the city centre but i grudge paying for parking and parking so far away from- the shops are all closing because of the pay to park scheme- abolish parking fees and let paisley florish again with small cafes and better shops. Does anyone know when renfrew will be finished- the pubs and shops there are going out of business rapidly! Posted by: Emar, Paisley on 9:41am Tue 19 Feb 08 It must be the same firm employed as the GARL that state opening access will bring retail success. The cars cant stop and have to travel through so all that it will achieve is another rat-run to Braehead. It is said that the rail link to the Airport will bring prosperity to Paisley. How? People wont get off in Paisley! Posted by: stephen1954, Paisley on 10:36am Tue 19 Feb 08 Paisley only has two decent stores M&S and Boots,as for other shops turn left a hairdresser turn right a hairdresser look behind you a hairdresser straight ahead a hairdresser (perhaps I should not have used the word straight ahead for someone might read this and think ,what a good name for a hairdresser lets open a hairddresser in Paisley and call it straightahed)As for pound stores there are more pound stores in Paisley than people,more big issue vendors than lamp posts,and to make matters worse a smack head every fifty yards asking you for 40p to get to Killwinning.Opening more streets in Paisley for motorists wont make any difference it will only get them to Braehead shopping centre quicker. make any difference Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 10:57am Tue 19 Feb 08 Only thing to save Paisley's marvellous city centre would have been one large grand hotel, free carpark & bus/tram service. Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 7:11pm Tue 19 Feb 08 Posted by: George Brown, erskine on 7:51pm Tue 19 Feb 08 Tho only reason that I prefer to go to a shop of choice in Paisley nowadays is I know that I can get in and out without too much agro re- being busy with pedestrians or road traffic. Introduce traffic to the current pedestrianised roads and I shall be obliged to go else where Any way shouldn't someones head be adorning a block regarding the cost of making and undoing this mess? The tax payer should be exempted from forking out on idiot proof planning experiments Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:04pm Tue 19 Feb 08 Grumpinuts wrote: Exactly, Councillors want to have their cake and eat it. You can't build out of town shopping centres, primarily for car drivers, then expect them to return to town centres, which have been killed off, by in this case Braehead, and Silverburn. This is indeed too little too late. And it is about having a compromise. Cars and car drivers must see the sense in occassionally using "Park & Ride" when it is there. But, Councillors also must realise that they need to do far more than make such foolish U - Turns and hope for the best. Maybe town centre, and city centres need to be revived by reducing shops exorbitant rents, not as with Glasgow City Centre, just expanding Buchanan Galleries & The St Enoch Centre. A bit more intelligence and understanding of the delicate way the shopping industry operates would help. But, as many Councillors, are male - and probably not frequent retailers, and bargain hunters in the same way - what the heck do they know about shops, and how more sensitivity is needed to level the playing field between "Out Of Town" Shopping Centres, and "Town / City Centre Shops! If people are to return to town / city centres, its going to take more than just allowing cars back in, or expanding the variety. More incentives to shoppers are needed. Better value for "Park & Ride" facilities. Cheaper city / town centre parking ? for shoppers - or cheaper rents for struggling shops. Anything that gets to the root of this problem. Basically our councils are just placing a "sticking plaster" over the wound / problem which they created. And more fool them! Posted by: bigman, paisley on 11:36pm Tue 19 Feb 08 Manser ****** the town along with Labour for many years. Look at the rates the council charge for the shops then if they bring them down shops may be attracted to the town. Not fogetting to mention more police to get rid of the junkie b******s ,which make this town more intimigating than Glasgow, Where I was born. Sort it out and make it a beeter place!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Trader, Dumbarton on 6:47am Wed 20 Feb 08 Of course the scrapping of the traffic management system in Paisley won't be a cure for all of its ills and town centres have to adapt to complement rather than compete with the Breaheads. The 90's councillors in Paisley responsible for what they did to the town should hang their heads in shame. It was obvious to all what the effect of their traffic scheme would be. I am a trader in Dumbarton and the council there effectively copied Paisley with the same result. Go to youtube and search for Dumbarton Ghost Town you'll see a montage I made on the subject. Posted by: Trader, Dumbarton on 6:48am Wed 20 Feb 08 Of course the scrapping of the traffic management system in Paisley won't be a cure for all of its ills and town centres have to adapt to complement rather than compete with the Breaheads. The 90's councillors in Paisley responsible for what they did to the town should hang their heads in shame. It was obvious to all what the effect of their traffic scheme would be. I am a trader in Dumbarton and the council there effectively copied Paisley with the same result. Go to youtube and search for Dumbarton Ghost Town you'll see a montage I made on the subject.
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