Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:05am Fri 22 Feb 08
It's obvious that 'Clean' Glasgow is failing at every level: last week we saw the council lurch from education to enforcement for schoolchildren after they failed to get their message across to young people, subsequently [bold]66%[/bold] of ET readers disagreed with this tactic; then a further poll of ET readers showed over [bold]70%[/bold] of readers thought fines made no difference to the "war on litter"; and, now we see that - despite huge sums being paid in expensive corporate public relations - the council is still failing to get its core message across to businesses.
[bold]£4million down the drain and still our public spaces are a mess![/bold]
It's obvious that 'Clean' Glasgow is failing at every level: last week we saw the council lurch from education to enforcement for schoolchildren after they failed to get their message across to young people, subsequently
66% of ET readers disagreed with this tactic; then a further poll of ET readers showed over
70% of readers thought fines made no difference to the "war on litter"; and, now we see that - despite huge sums being paid in expensive corporate public relations - the council is still failing to get its core message across to businesses.
£4million down the drain and still our public spaces are a mess! Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 11:33am Fri 22 Feb 08
HBOS "is expected to announce profits of more than £5.5 billion next". So, a £50 for litter will be a real deterrent to them - NOT.
Who ever came up with the idea that an individual dropping a single piece of litter in the street and a large business disposing of their waste irresponsibly deserve the exact same penalty?
HBOS "is expected to announce profits of more than £5.5 billion next". So, a £50 for litter will be a real deterrent to them - NOT.
Who ever came up with the idea that an individual dropping a single piece of litter in the street and a large business disposing of their waste irresponsibly deserve the exact same penalty?
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:42am Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote]Who ever came up with the idea that an individual dropping a single piece of litter in the street and a large business disposing of their waste irresponsibly deserve the exact same penalty?[/quote]
Exactly... and why is [bold]Glasgow City Council[/bold] not on the list after their mismanagement ([italic]as highlighted by the ET[/italic]) meant the streets of Glasgow teemed with litter over the festive period?
Who ever came up with the idea that an individual dropping a single piece of litter in the street and a large business disposing of their waste irresponsibly deserve the exact same penalty?
Exactly... and why is
Glasgow City Council not on the list after their mismanagement (
as highlighted by the ET) meant the streets of Glasgow teemed with litter over the festive period?
Posted by: Bri, Glasgow on 11:51am Fri 22 Feb 08
No word on the ET being fined yet for leaving discarded papers & posters lying in the street? Oh, wait a minute, it's whoever DROPS the paper of flyer who gets the fine....
No word on the ET being fined yet for leaving discarded papers & posters lying in the street? Oh, wait a minute, it's whoever DROPS the paper of flyer who gets the fine....
Posted by: Bri, Glasgow on 11:52am Fri 22 Feb 08
That last sentence was supposed to say "paper or flyer". Hangover...haha
That last sentence was supposed to say "paper or flyer". Hangover...haha
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:21pm Fri 22 Feb 08
I'll tell you another Company who should be fined - the Publishers of "The Extra" newspaper who continuously have their paper delivered to the outside of tenement close doors - allowing their paper to blow along Dumbarton Road, Partick & other location.
What a mess - every week without fail.
I've been onto the distributor countless times to no avail. Who actually reads these free advertising papers anyway ?
I'll tell you another Company who should be fined - the Publishers of "The Extra" newspaper who continuously have their paper delivered to the outside of tenement close doors - allowing their paper to blow along Dumbarton Road, Partick & other location.
What a mess - every week without fail.
I've been onto the distributor countless times to no avail. Who actually reads these free advertising papers anyway ?
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 12:48pm Fri 22 Feb 08
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 1:15pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Maybe its a case that some of us care more than others about keeping their locality clean and tidy.
I even saw a local neighbour out with her litter pickers lifting the litter in the front grassy area of the houses, dumped by the kids that hang out. Maybe not the same scale as corporate flytipping. But, to coin a phrase, "every little helps!"
Just surprised Tinderbox was listed, as I always thought it was very good for its service and as a business. Just goes to show - it's not only the Starbucks and Subway cafe's flouting the rules.
Maybe its a case that some of us care more than others about keeping their locality clean and tidy.
I even saw a local neighbour out with her litter pickers lifting the litter in the front grassy area of the houses, dumped by the kids that hang out. Maybe not the same scale as corporate flytipping. But, to coin a phrase, "every little helps!"
Just surprised Tinderbox was listed, as I always thought it was very good for its service and as a business. Just goes to show - it's not only the Starbucks and Subway cafe's flouting the rules.
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 1:54pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
I'll tell you another Company who should be fined - the Publishers of "The Extra" newspaper who continuously have their paper delivered to the outside of tenement close doors - allowing their paper to blow along Dumbarton Road, Partick & other location.
What a mess - every week without fail.
I've been onto the distributor countless times to no avail. Who actually reads these free advertising papers anyway ?
[/quote] The Glaswegian is another one and tied bundles of their papers are regularly dumped in bushes, bin shelters etc by the people who are being paid to deliver them. They have also been reported and say that they will "contact their distribution company".
Then we have the people who stick flyers behind the windscreen wipers of rows of parked cars, shops who dump piles of their advertising leaflets outside blocks of flats etc etc
People Power wrote:
I'll tell you another Company who should be fined - the Publishers of "The Extra" newspaper who continuously have their paper delivered to the outside of tenement close doors - allowing their paper to blow along Dumbarton Road, Partick & other location.
What a mess - every week without fail.
I've been onto the distributor countless times to no avail. Who actually reads these free advertising papers anyway ?
The Glaswegian is another one and tied bundles of their papers are regularly dumped in bushes, bin shelters etc by the people who are being paid to deliver them. They have also been reported and say that they will "contact their distribution company".
Then we have the people who stick flyers behind the windscreen wipers of rows of parked cars, shops who dump piles of their advertising leaflets outside blocks of flats etc etc
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 2:17pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Basically Mulross,
The solution is cut out the middle man -
don't just get onto the Paper - ask for their Distribution phone number & report those who deliver it in your area directly!
Also - much as I loathe to do it - but I remove all leaflets ; laminated posters on traffic light poles (etc) from my area myself.
Its when their advetising an event or Public Meeting / Consultation I don't mind - as it's letting people know what they have a right to.
But - when the posters etc are left up way beyond the time of the event thats when it really scunners me.
Even the Kelvin Branch of Labour Party ( befor e the boundary changes?) who hired out a shop next to Kelvinhall Subway Station left the posters up on the windows for months and months after the election. . . You can bet they never got fined!
I've even spoted the odd SSP amateur placard tied with string on lampposts - almost 8 months after last Mays election. Farcical or what ?
Basically Mulross,
The solution is cut out the middle man -
don't just get onto the Paper - ask for their Distribution phone number & report those who deliver it in your area directly!
Also - much as I loathe to do it - but I remove all leaflets ; laminated posters on traffic light poles (etc) from my area myself.
Its when their advetising an event or Public Meeting / Consultation I don't mind - as it's letting people know what they have a right to.
But - when the posters etc are left up way beyond the time of the event thats when it really scunners me.
Even the Kelvin Branch of Labour Party ( befor e the boundary changes?) who hired out a shop next to Kelvinhall Subway Station left the posters up on the windows for months and months after the election. . . You can bet they never got fined!
I've even spoted the odd SSP amateur placard tied with string on lampposts - almost 8 months after last Mays election. Farcical or what ?
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 2:21pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Why don't all these businesses tell GCC to stuff their rates demands. Businesses create waste as part and parcel of their operations. Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering. Do GCC wany companies to operate in the city centre or not? Why not reinvest funds raised from these suprious fines into litter collection. Or is it the case that the excessive investment in this stupid capaign won't ever break even.
Why don't all these businesses tell GCC to stuff their rates demands. Businesses create waste as part and parcel of their operations. Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering. Do GCC wany companies to operate in the city centre or not? Why not reinvest funds raised from these suprious fines into litter collection. Or is it the case that the excessive investment in this stupid capaign won't ever break even.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 2:44pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
Why don't all these businesses tell GCC to stuff their rates demands. Businesses create waste as part and parcel of their operations. Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering. Do GCC wany companies to operate in the city centre or not? Why not reinvest funds raised from these suprious fines into litter collection. Or is it the case that the excessive investment in this stupid capaign won't ever break even.[/quote]
Agree with you to a certain extent Pete.
As the problem with alot of City Centre shops struggling is down to the exorbitant rates as well as out of town shopping Centres.
cut the rates in the city centre and you wouldn't need to see the ridiculous expansion plans of Buchanan Galleries, or The St Enoch Centre.
Flytipping is more of a problem, and general dropping of litter - why can't the council re - educate kids far more at school age instead of this excuse they use of focussiong on the easy targets of big business.
Yes - fine big business when the flout the laws with their rubbish outside, but within reason - and not simply without beter alternatives like targeting the managers.
I'd give the managers of regular offenders or companies who are fined community service.
At least that would clean up the local areas surrounding places like Starbucks (etc)
Pete wrote:
Why don't all these businesses tell GCC to stuff their rates demands. Businesses create waste as part and parcel of their operations. Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering. Do GCC wany companies to operate in the city centre or not? Why not reinvest funds raised from these suprious fines into litter collection. Or is it the case that the excessive investment in this stupid capaign won't ever break even.
Agree with you to a certain extent Pete.
As the problem with alot of City Centre shops struggling is down to the exorbitant rates as well as out of town shopping Centres.
cut the rates in the city centre and you wouldn't need to see the ridiculous expansion plans of Buchanan Galleries, or The St Enoch Centre.
Flytipping is more of a problem, and general dropping of litter - why can't the council re - educate kids far more at school age instead of this excuse they use of focussiong on the easy targets of big business.
Yes - fine big business when the flout the laws with their rubbish outside, but within reason - and not simply without beter alternatives like targeting the managers.
I'd give the managers of regular offenders or companies who are fined community service.
At least that would clean up the local areas surrounding places like Starbucks (etc)
Posted by: BhoyWunda, East Kilbride on 3:21pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace[/quote] Some of them are worthy of corporate status.
Fanto wrote:
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
Some of them are worthy of corporate status.
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 3:38pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote]Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering.[/quote]
It is a substantial problem when these bags are left out in the street for days at a time, resulting in the bags being ripped open by foxes and rats and the contents dispersed. Likewise, it is a problem when the rubbish is not secured properly to start with and spills over on to the pavements and roads.
I hardly think that the Council can be accused of "discouraging businesses" by asking that they only deposit their rubbish on the pavement on the appropriate day and ensure that it is securely bagged/tied. Doesn't seem a lot to ask?
Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering.
It is a substantial problem when these bags are left out in the street for days at a time, resulting in the bags being ripped open by foxes and rats and the contents dispersed. Likewise, it is a problem when the rubbish is not secured properly to start with and spills over on to the pavements and roads.
I hardly think that the Council can be accused of "discouraging businesses" by asking that they only deposit their rubbish on the pavement on the appropriate day and ensure that it is securely bagged/tied. Doesn't seem a lot to ask?
Posted by: BigBrother, Glasgow on 3:50pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: Why don't all these businesses tell GCC to stuff their rates demands. Businesses create waste as part and parcel of their operations. Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering. Do GCC wany companies to operate in the city centre or not? Why not reinvest funds raised from these suprious fines into litter collection. Or is it the case that the excessive investment in this stupid capaign won't ever break even.[/quote] Agree with you to a certain extent Pete. As the problem with alot of City Centre shops struggling is down to the exorbitant rates as well as out of town shopping Centres. cut the rates in the city centre and you wouldn't need to see the ridiculous expansion plans of Buchanan Galleries, or The St Enoch Centre. Flytipping is more of a problem, and general dropping of litter - why can't the council re - educate kids far more at school age instead of this excuse they use of focussiong on the easy targets of big business. Yes - fine big business when the flout the laws with their rubbish outside, but within reason - and not simply without beter alternatives like targeting the managers. I'd give the managers of regular offenders or companies who are fined community service. At least that would clean up the local areas surrounding places like Starbucks (etc) [/quote] "I'd give the managers of regular offenders or companies who are fined community service."
Great idea, if the management upset any of their employees those employees can then leave a trail of litter related to the business in same street resulting in justified punishment of management lol.
You are a genius!
People Power wrote:
Pete wrote: Why don't all these businesses tell GCC to stuff their rates demands. Businesses create waste as part and parcel of their operations. Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering. Do GCC wany companies to operate in the city centre or not? Why not reinvest funds raised from these suprious fines into litter collection. Or is it the case that the excessive investment in this stupid capaign won't ever break even.
Agree with you to a certain extent Pete. As the problem with alot of City Centre shops struggling is down to the exorbitant rates as well as out of town shopping Centres. cut the rates in the city centre and you wouldn't need to see the ridiculous expansion plans of Buchanan Galleries, or The St Enoch Centre. Flytipping is more of a problem, and general dropping of litter - why can't the council re - educate kids far more at school age instead of this excuse they use of focussiong on the easy targets of big business. Yes - fine big business when the flout the laws with their rubbish outside, but within reason - and not simply without beter alternatives like targeting the managers. I'd give the managers of regular offenders or companies who are fined community service. At least that would clean up the local areas surrounding places like Starbucks (etc)
"I'd give the managers of regular offenders or companies who are fined community service."
Great idea, if the management upset any of their employees those employees can then leave a trail of litter related to the business in same street resulting in justified punishment of management lol.
You are a genius!
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 4:05pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace[/quote] What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it
over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off.
The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
Fanto wrote:
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it
over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off.
The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 4:22pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace[/quote] What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats. [/quote] I know what you mean exLV, but I'm not so sure it is the journalists' fault, it's probably more to do with the business strategy of paper and the editorial stance. I say this because what they DON'T write tells us much more than what they DO write... this week GCC entered into a £265million pound outsourcing deal with Serco and has the ET printed a tweet?
[bold]No[/bold]... and even The Scotsman has been running stories on the privatisation deal over the last week!
ex labour voter wrote:
Fanto wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
I know what you mean exLV, but I'm not so sure it is the journalists' fault, it's probably more to do with the business strategy of paper and the editorial stance. I say this because what they DON'T write tells us much more than what they DO write... this week GCC entered into a £265million pound outsourcing deal with Serco and has the ET printed a tweet?
No... and even The Scotsman has been running stories on the privatisation deal over the last week!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 4:25pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]mulross[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering.[/quote] It is a substantial problem when these bags are left out in the street for days at a time, resulting in the bags being ripped open by foxes and rats and the contents dispersed. Likewise, it is a problem when the rubbish is not secured properly to start with and spills over on to the pavements and roads. I hardly think that the Council can be accused of "discouraging businesses" by asking that they only deposit their rubbish on the pavement on the appropriate day and ensure that it is securely bagged/tied. Doesn't seem a lot to ask?[/quote] And when are they left out in the street for days? The problem arises when you leave packaging (and we're not talking about food waste, or anything else that attracts vermin) out in the street for collection at the close of business and by the time it's collected a few hours later, some lackwit has left you a fine. No-one wants piles of rubbish outside their premises - it's bad for business!
mulross wrote:
Leaving bags out for collection is hardly the same as littering.
It is a substantial problem when these bags are left out in the street for days at a time, resulting in the bags being ripped open by foxes and rats and the contents dispersed. Likewise, it is a problem when the rubbish is not secured properly to start with and spills over on to the pavements and roads. I hardly think that the Council can be accused of "discouraging businesses" by asking that they only deposit their rubbish on the pavement on the appropriate day and ensure that it is securely bagged/tied. Doesn't seem a lot to ask?
And when are they left out in the street for days? The problem arises when you leave packaging (and we're not talking about food waste, or anything else that attracts vermin) out in the street for collection at the close of business and by the time it's collected a few hours later, some lackwit has left you a fine. No-one wants piles of rubbish outside their premises - it's bad for business!
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 4:31pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of.
The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today.
Will they never learn?
Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of.
The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today.
Will they never learn?
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 4:34pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace[/quote] What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it
over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off.
The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
[/quote] Why do you read it?
ex labour voter wrote:
Fanto wrote:
I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it
over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off.
The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
Why do you read it?
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:38pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of. The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today. Will they never learn?[/quote] No doubt, there will be a Serco-related non-story in The 'Weekend ET', which shifts only slightly more copies over a weekend than the RS McColls in Easterhouse Shopping Centre shifts Daily Telegraphs in a week!
ex labour voter wrote:
Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of. The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today. Will they never learn?
No doubt, there will be a Serco-related non-story in The 'Weekend ET', which shifts only slightly more copies over a weekend than the RS McColls in Easterhouse Shopping Centre shifts Daily Telegraphs in a week!
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 4:40pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote]the problem arises when you leave packaging (and we're not talking about food waste, or anything else that attracts vermin) out in the street for collection at the close of business and by the time it's collected a few hours later, some lackwit has left you a fine.[/quote]
I regularly see waste on the streets from "businesses" at all hours of the day every day of the week. It's not just been put "at close of business" for "a few hours" before it's collected.
the problem arises when you leave packaging (and we're not talking about food waste, or anything else that attracts vermin) out in the street for collection at the close of business and by the time it's collected a few hours later, some lackwit has left you a fine.
I regularly see waste on the streets from "businesses" at all hours of the day every day of the week. It's not just been put "at close of business" for "a few hours" before it's collected.
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 4:50pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]mulross[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace[/quote] What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats. [/quote] Why do you read it?[/quote] Because it is free online, I would never ,never pay good money for the dross that is printed in any liebour rag.
So my choice is as caffy jimmyson would say,
VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY,
limited.
mulross wrote:
ex labour voter wrote: Fanto wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
Why do you read it?
Because it is free online, I would never ,never pay good money for the dross that is printed in any liebour rag.
So my choice is as caffy jimmyson would say,
VERY,VERY,VERY,VERY,
limited.
Posted by: hugo, south side on 4:57pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote: Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of. The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today. Will they never learn?[/quote] No doubt, there will be a Serco-related non-story in The 'Weekend ET', which shifts only slightly more copies over a weekend than the RS McColls in Easterhouse Shopping Centre shifts Daily Telegraphs in a week![/quote] Yeah, you guys are right. The evening times, and to a lesser extent happily tow the cooooouncil line, with all these mince stories, yet major council decisions such as the Serco deal are lucky if they make it into print.
I am sure this has nothing to do with the £4 million, yes £4 million, which the council spent with SMG last yeat in advertising.
That money obviously gets the coooooooooouncil a fair amount of editorial say as to what goes into and what does not go into the evening times.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
ex labour voter wrote: Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of. The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today. Will they never learn?
No doubt, there will be a Serco-related non-story in The 'Weekend ET', which shifts only slightly more copies over a weekend than the RS McColls in Easterhouse Shopping Centre shifts Daily Telegraphs in a week!
Yeah, you guys are right. The evening times, and to a lesser extent happily tow the cooooouncil line, with all these mince stories, yet major council decisions such as the Serco deal are lucky if they make it into print.
I am sure this has nothing to do with the £4 million, yes £4 million, which the council spent with SMG last yeat in advertising.
That money obviously gets the coooooooooouncil a fair amount of editorial say as to what goes into and what does not go into the evening times.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 5:13pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]hugo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote: Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of. The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today. Will they never learn?[/quote] No doubt, there will be a Serco-related non-story in The 'Weekend ET', which shifts only slightly more copies over a weekend than the RS McColls in Easterhouse Shopping Centre shifts Daily Telegraphs in a week![/quote] Yeah, you guys are right. The evening times, and to a lesser extent happily tow the cooooouncil line, with all these mince stories, yet major council decisions such as the Serco deal are lucky if they make it into print. I am sure this has nothing to do with the £4 million, yes £4 million, which the council spent with SMG last yeat in advertising. That money obviously gets the coooooooooouncil a fair amount of editorial say as to what goes into and what does not go into the evening times. [/quote] This (Serco outsourcing) is just another example of what I referred to last week on these very pages:
[quote]...New Labour profiteers know well that their power will be greatly diminished at the City Chambers come the next election, that's why they are busy weakening the core functions of Glasgow City Council, while at the same time creating quango bolt-holes where they can scurry to once the Glasgow people have had their say.[/quote]
hugo wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote: ex labour voter wrote: Aye Sydney, it,s what they dont write is what we should all be afraid of. The ET likes to use diversion story,s like the crap printed on the front page today. Will they never learn?
No doubt, there will be a Serco-related non-story in The 'Weekend ET', which shifts only slightly more copies over a weekend than the RS McColls in Easterhouse Shopping Centre shifts Daily Telegraphs in a week!
Yeah, you guys are right. The evening times, and to a lesser extent happily tow the cooooouncil line, with all these mince stories, yet major council decisions such as the Serco deal are lucky if they make it into print. I am sure this has nothing to do with the £4 million, yes £4 million, which the council spent with SMG last yeat in advertising. That money obviously gets the coooooooooouncil a fair amount of editorial say as to what goes into and what does not go into the evening times.
This (Serco outsourcing) is just another example of what I referred to last week on these very pages:
...New Labour profiteers know well that their power will be greatly diminished at the City Chambers come the next election, that's why they are busy weakening the core functions of Glasgow City Council, while at the same time creating quango bolt-holes where they can scurry to once the Glasgow people have had their say.
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 5:19pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace[/quote] What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats. [/quote] Tell me this why do you continuously slag off the E.T.GO Somewhere else and post,we are sick of your moaning, is their any socialist comic that would be more suited to type of rubbish you regurgitate on a regular basis, as the say after three GO....
ex labour voter wrote:
Fanto wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
Tell me this why do you continuously slag off the E.T.GO Somewhere else and post,we are sick of your moaning, is their any socialist comic that would be more suited to type of rubbish you regurgitate on a regular basis, as the say after three GO....
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 5:26pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Spon on Sydney .We know what the sleaze perty are up to.
Rumour has it Purcell will be in charge of art galleries and museums.Pathetic.
As for jrb, Who the f*** are you to talk? how many liebour numpties do you speak for?
Are you now in charge of speaking for the poxy ET defense team.LMAO.
Spon on Sydney .We know what the sleaze perty are up to.
Rumour has it Purcell will be in charge of art galleries and museums.Pathetic.
As for jrb, Who the f*** are you to talk? how many liebour numpties do you speak for?
Are you now in charge of speaking for the poxy ET defense team.LMAO.
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 5:44pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
Spon on Sydney .We know what the sleaze perty are up to. Rumour has it Purcell will be in charge of art galleries and museums.Pathetic. As for jrb, Who the f*** are you to talk? how many liebour numpties do you speak for? Are you now in charge of speaking for the poxy ET defense team.LMAO.[/quote] I had the feeling I would have to repeat myself,So here we go,WE dont want to listen to your rambling psychobabble take a hike,go away,vanish,and give us all peace for a week or two.And talking of vanishing that's quite a disappearing trick, T.M.C pulled..GTAFFTY...
ex labour voter wrote:
Spon on Sydney .We know what the sleaze perty are up to. Rumour has it Purcell will be in charge of art galleries and museums.Pathetic. As for jrb, Who the f*** are you to talk? how many liebour numpties do you speak for? Are you now in charge of speaking for the poxy ET defense team.LMAO.
I had the feeling I would have to repeat myself,So here we go,WE dont want to listen to your rambling psychobabble take a hike,go away,vanish,and give us all peace for a week or two.And talking of vanishing that's quite a disappearing trick, T.M.C pulled..GTAFFTY...
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 5:51pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
Spon on Sydney .We know what the sleaze perty are up to. Rumour has it Purcell will be in charge of art galleries and museums.Pathetic. As for jrb, Who the f*** are you to talk? how many liebour numpties do you speak for? Are you now in charge of speaking for the poxy ET defense team.LMAO.[/quote] Could it be that Liz Cameron will be moved to act as chief executive for the Diddy Games 2014 and Purcell will be moved to the culture quango?
ex labour voter wrote:
Spon on Sydney .We know what the sleaze perty are up to. Rumour has it Purcell will be in charge of art galleries and museums.Pathetic. As for jrb, Who the f*** are you to talk? how many liebour numpties do you speak for? Are you now in charge of speaking for the poxy ET defense team.LMAO.
Could it be that Liz Cameron will be moved to act as chief executive for the Diddy Games 2014 and Purcell will be moved to the culture quango?
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 6:03pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Purcell is definetly going to the culture quango, not sure about dizzy lizzy and the diddy games though.
Purcell is definetly going to the culture quango, not sure about dizzy lizzy and the diddy games though.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 6:12pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
Purcell is definetly going to the culture quango, not sure about dizzy lizzy and the diddy games though. [/quote] I smell a very serious conflict of interest in the air... can you imagine if he make a mess of museums like he's done Clean Glasow... we'll have to round up people and force them through the doors of the Kelvingrove just to keep the numbers up!
ex labour voter wrote:
Purcell is definetly going to the culture quango, not sure about dizzy lizzy and the diddy games though.
I smell a very serious conflict of interest in the air... can you imagine if he make a mess of museums like he's done Clean Glasow... we'll have to round up people and force them through the doors of the Kelvingrove just to keep the numbers up!
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 6:27pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Wee Jokes missus has allready messed up the kelvingrove,the medieval weapons room has disappeared and the pc mob have turned it into a giant caffiteria full of things like a plastic elvis and animals that never existed like mini mammoths.
£26 MILLION spent. the mind boggles as to where it went.
Wee Jokes missus has allready messed up the kelvingrove,the medieval weapons room has disappeared and the pc mob have turned it into a giant caffiteria full of things like a plastic elvis and animals that never existed like mini mammoths.
£26 MILLION spent. the mind boggles as to where it went.
Posted by: dan, West end on 7:08pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Put more bin lorries in the city centre after hours to collect the refuse put out.I dont see why this is not happening.It works well in other cities in the world.
Put more bin lorries in the city centre after hours to collect the refuse put out.I dont see why this is not happening.It works well in other cities in the world.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 7:32pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace[/quote] What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats. [/quote]
Miaw!!! for someone who continuously slates this paper for how rubbish its stories are - you're still reading it are you not ?
Maybe you just cant resist the draw of slagging it off - personally I'd rather do something far more interesting or uplifting!
Can't imagine the Red Road flat residents have that great a grasp of English to be able to read thr E.T. ( without wanting to offend.) As I thought they were being used more and more to house asylum seekers and refugees.
ex labour voter wrote:
Fanto wrote: I'm surprised that some of the posters on here aren't regularly fined for the garbage they spew all over cyberspace
What about fining the journalists who repeatedly write rubbish story,s in this liebour rag forcing the reader to fling it over their shoulders in disgust at being ripped off. The sales of this rubbish paper must be going down faster than a bin liner thrown down a shute at red rd flats.
Miaw!!! for someone who continuously slates this paper for how rubbish its stories are - you're still reading it are you not ?
Maybe you just cant resist the draw of slagging it off - personally I'd rather do something far more interesting or uplifting!
Can't imagine the Red Road flat residents have that great a grasp of English to be able to read thr E.T. ( without wanting to offend.) As I thought they were being used more and more to house asylum seekers and refugees.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 7:37pm Fri 22 Feb 08
As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou!
Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way!
Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start!
As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou!
Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way!
Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start!
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 8:08pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start! [/quote] Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.
People Power wrote:
As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start!
Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:25pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Cheers chappies or Chappesses! After all it is "Nice To BE Nice!" And it is the weekend!
Funny thing happened earlier today - I'd to call up re - this story as it mysteriously vanished from the Website - wondered if it was for legal reasons - due to naming & shaming the Corporate Companies!
Thankfully it was just a technical glitch!
Anybody notice ?
As for your final comment - jrb:- [italic]"I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form!"[/italic]
All I can say to that is thank god!
Let sanity prevail to the rest of the E.T. readers - not that I'm saying SNP are alot better - but anything has to be better than the New Labour numpties!
God - even the "Raving Loonie Party!" LOL ;-)
Have a good weekend! P.P.
Cheers chappies or Chappesses! After all it is "Nice To BE Nice!" And it is the weekend!
Funny thing happened earlier today - I'd to call up re - this story as it mysteriously vanished from the Website - wondered if it was for legal reasons - due to naming & shaming the Corporate Companies!
Thankfully it was just a technical glitch!
Anybody notice ?
As for your final comment - jrb:-
"I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form!"
All I can say to that is thank god!
Let sanity prevail to the rest of the E.T. readers - not that I'm saying SNP are alot better - but anything has to be better than the New Labour numpties!
God - even the "Raving Loonie Party!" LOL ;-)
Have a good weekend! P.P.
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 8:31pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Considering that monetary penalties will be met by the offending business customers I don't think fines are the answer, better collaring a senior individual of the delinquent businesses and have them do a turn of manual community service such as sweeping streets or lifting dogs poo in a park, and no doubt upset trade unions whilst he is at it
Considering that monetary penalties will be met by the offending business customers I don't think fines are the answer, better collaring a senior individual of the delinquent businesses and have them do a turn of manual community service such as sweeping streets or lifting dogs poo in a park, and no doubt upset trade unions whilst he is at it
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 8:41pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote: As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start! [/quote] Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.[/quote] Aye, I will go along with that jrb,cheers.
PP you should change yer name to peace pipe.
Well done for your contribution on this matter.
Glad to see your not labour drones .
bye till next time.
jrb wrote:
People Power wrote: As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start!
Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.
Aye, I will go along with that jrb,cheers.
PP you should change yer name to peace pipe.
Well done for your contribution on this matter.
Glad to see your not labour drones .
bye till next time.
Posted by: BM, Glasgow on 10:23pm Fri 22 Feb 08
How can you include Dixons, which hasn't had a sop in Glasgow for about five years? If that is the quality of your journalism, your article is a load of baloney!
How can you include Dixons, which hasn't had a sop in Glasgow for about five years? If that is the quality of your journalism, your article is a load of baloney!
Posted by: People Power on 10:48pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote: As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start! [/quote] Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.[/quote] Aye, I will go along with that jrb,cheers. PP you should change yer name to peace pipe. Well done for your contribution on this matter. Glad to see your not labour drones . bye till next time. [/quote]
Thats what I like to see! Peace and harmony among all forum users alike!
Prefer the alias name I've used previously - "Jillette Razor-Tongue!" - [italic]"The Best A Man Can Get!"[/italic]
Funnily enough when I spoke to someone at the E.T. Website dept re this story going awol, he thought "People Power" was a guy! Made me laugh! ;-)
Cheers. P.P.
ex labour voter wrote:
jrb wrote: People Power wrote: As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start!
Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.
Aye, I will go along with that jrb,cheers. PP you should change yer name to peace pipe. Well done for your contribution on this matter. Glad to see your not labour drones . bye till next time.
Thats what I like to see! Peace and harmony among all forum users alike!
Prefer the alias name I've used previously - "Jillette Razor-Tongue!" -
"The Best A Man Can Get!"
Funnily enough when I spoke to someone at the E.T. Website dept re this story going awol, he thought "People Power" was a guy! Made me laugh! ;-)
Cheers. P.P.
Posted by: tj39spt, airdrie on 11:10pm Fri 22 Feb 08
What is the problem in this area everyone has their opinion how to clean up the rubbish. THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE (G.C.C. might not comprehend,) do what is done in the areas a lot of people go on holiday to <i.e the refuse from these premises is put out wen they close,local authority refuse collection is then carried out/ streets are washed ready for the tourists and locals to enjoy a clean fresh environment. Of course this only works if the <(refuse collectors//waste disposal//?????????/
/operatives /or any fancy title they give themselves....are willing to do the job the were hired to do.
What is the problem in this area everyone has their opinion how to clean up the rubbish. THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE (G.C.C. might not comprehend,) do what is done in the areas a lot of people go on holiday to <i.e the refuse from these premises is put out wen they close,local authority refuse collection is then carried out/ streets are washed ready for the tourists and locals to enjoy a clean fresh environment. Of course this only works if the <(refuse collectors//waste disposal//?????????/
/operatives /or any fancy title they give themselves....are willing to do the job the were hired to do.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:39pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]BM[/bold] wrote:
How can you include Dixons, which hasn't had a sop in Glasgow for about five years? If that is the quality of your journalism, your article is a load of baloney! [/quote]
Good point BM, if indeed this is the case ?
Shocking that the ET could print information which could be based on such old statistics, figures or information.
NB jrb & ex labour voter - Consider me to be be the voice of the silent majority - although I'm no longer a member!
finally tj39spt,
[italic]"THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE"[/italic] is it ?
Not when we're talking about G.C.C. who seem to make a mess of everythign they touch - whether its the Clyde Arc / "Squinty Bridge" farce, or The Glasgow Tower down at the Science Centre, plagued with problems - a total waste of money!
I dread to think what will be next to go pear shaped!
So - Waste Disposal - which should be simple - is only so when those behind the organisation, funding, dispatching, and management generally have a scooby!
The bottom line is: multi-national chains - cafes, shops, or banks which are profitable should know alot better!
BM wrote:
How can you include Dixons, which hasn't had a sop in Glasgow for about five years? If that is the quality of your journalism, your article is a load of baloney!
Good point BM, if indeed this is the case ?
Shocking that the ET could print information which could be based on such old statistics, figures or information.
NB jrb & ex labour voter - Consider me to be be the voice of the silent majority - although I'm no longer a member!
finally tj39spt,
"THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE" is it ?
Not when we're talking about G.C.C. who seem to make a mess of everythign they touch - whether its the Clyde Arc / "Squinty Bridge" farce, or The Glasgow Tower down at the Science Centre, plagued with problems - a total waste of money!
I dread to think what will be next to go pear shaped!
So - Waste Disposal - which should be simple - is only so when those behind the organisation, funding, dispatching, and management generally have a scooby!
The bottom line is: multi-national chains - cafes, shops, or banks which are profitable should know alot better!
Posted by: likeacare, Paisley on 5:59am Sat 23 Feb 08
A £50 pound fine is not high enough. The Council shood fine them £1,000 and any rubbish the businesses leave should be disposed of in the owners garden. [bold]See how they like it!!![/bold]
A £50 pound fine is not high enough. The Council shood fine them £1,000 and any rubbish the businesses leave should be disposed of in the owners garden.
See how they like it!!! Posted by: daz, glasgow on 8:26am Sat 23 Feb 08
waste dispoal is far from simple. we now have numerous companies collecting commercial waste - and lets be honest the cheapest tender wins and cuts the corners as it sees fit.
large offices now have sub-contracted cleaners who might do the cleaning at night and put the waste out onto the kerb when they leave - cos for £4 an hour a cleaner isn't going to go back the next morning and put the rubbish out an hour or so before it's collected.
The recent article on shops in govanhill unearthed that many don't have collection firms uplifting their waste!!
so what were they doing with it for the weeks/months/years before they were caught? fly-tipping? fired over the neighbours fence? left to rot in the street seems to be the evidence of the area. How many other businesses are continuing this or paying for one bag a week and illegally disposing of the rest?
can't fathom why this has been privatised! surely it's too important.
waste dispoal is far from simple. we now have numerous companies collecting commercial waste - and lets be honest the cheapest tender wins and cuts the corners as it sees fit.
large offices now have sub-contracted cleaners who might do the cleaning at night and put the waste out onto the kerb when they leave - cos for £4 an hour a cleaner isn't going to go back the next morning and put the rubbish out an hour or so before it's collected.
The recent article on shops in govanhill unearthed that many don't have collection firms uplifting their waste!!
so what were they doing with it for the weeks/months/years before they were caught? fly-tipping? fired over the neighbours fence? left to rot in the street seems to be the evidence of the area. How many other businesses are continuing this or paying for one bag a week and illegally disposing of the rest?
can't fathom why this has been privatised! surely it's too important.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 10:28am Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote]can't fathom why this has been privatised! surely it's too important.[/quote]
[bold]If there is money to be made for New Labour's Del-boy-like chums then they'll privatise it![/bold]
Remember these NL politicians know they are going to get kicked out come the next election, so they have to 'oil the wheels' to make sure they will have jobs rebound to... after all very few of them have any talents, let alone qualifications.
can't fathom why this has been privatised! surely it's too important.
If there is money to be made for New Labour's Del-boy-like chums then they'll privatise it!
Remember these NL politicians know they are going to get kicked out come the next election, so they have to 'oil the wheels' to make sure they will have jobs rebound to... after all very few of them have any talents, let alone qualifications.
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 12:17pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]daz[/bold] wrote:
waste dispoal is far from simple. we now have numerous companies collecting commercial waste - and lets be honest the cheapest tender wins and cuts the corners as it sees fit. large offices now have sub-contracted cleaners who might do the cleaning at night and put the waste out onto the kerb when they leave - cos for £4 an hour a cleaner isn't going to go back the next morning and put the rubbish out an hour or so before it's collected. The recent article on shops in govanhill unearthed that many don't have collection firms uplifting their waste!! so what were they doing with it for the weeks/months/years before they were caught? fly-tipping? fired over the neighbours fence? left to rot in the street seems to be the evidence of the area. How many other businesses are continuing this or paying for one bag a week and illegally disposing of the rest? can't fathom why this has been privatised! surely it's too important.[/quote] On at least five occasions this past month I've reported the long established dump that is burnbank terrace just off great western road.dicarded beds,mattresses,blac
k bags containing food waste,cooking oil canisters, charity shop discards,old clothes,gas fires, and mountains of every day rubbish.I showed an employee of land services this eyesore, he said he would report it,result,still filthy,and this supposed to be a monitored site indicated by a now missing,sign.If its not within a half mile of George square no one gives a hoot.glasgow land services needs a total shake up,those who can't adapt to much needed new work practises must go..
daz wrote:
waste dispoal is far from simple. we now have numerous companies collecting commercial waste - and lets be honest the cheapest tender wins and cuts the corners as it sees fit. large offices now have sub-contracted cleaners who might do the cleaning at night and put the waste out onto the kerb when they leave - cos for £4 an hour a cleaner isn't going to go back the next morning and put the rubbish out an hour or so before it's collected. The recent article on shops in govanhill unearthed that many don't have collection firms uplifting their waste!! so what were they doing with it for the weeks/months/years before they were caught? fly-tipping? fired over the neighbours fence? left to rot in the street seems to be the evidence of the area. How many other businesses are continuing this or paying for one bag a week and illegally disposing of the rest? can't fathom why this has been privatised! surely it's too important.
On at least five occasions this past month I've reported the long established dump that is burnbank terrace just off great western road.dicarded beds,mattresses,blac
k bags containing food waste,cooking oil canisters, charity shop discards,old clothes,gas fires, and mountains of every day rubbish.I showed an employee of land services this eyesore, he said he would report it,result,still filthy,and this supposed to be a monitored site indicated by a now missing,sign.If its not within a half mile of George square no one gives a hoot.glasgow land services needs a total shake up,those who can't adapt to much needed new work practises must go..
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 3:06pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]jrb[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote: As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start! [/quote] Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.[/quote] Aye, I will go along with that jrb,cheers. PP you should change yer name to peace pipe. Well done for your contribution on this matter. Glad to see your not labour drones . bye till next time. [/quote] Thats what I like to see! Peace and harmony among all forum users alike! Prefer the alias name I've used previously - "Jillette Razor-Tongue!" - [italic]"The Best A Man Can Get!"[/italic] Funnily enough when I spoke to someone at the E.T. Website dept re this story going awol, he thought "People Power" was a guy! Made me laugh! ;-) Cheers. P.P. [/quote] People Power, great posts, as usuall. And I dont know for the life of me why ANYONE would think your a guy with such sensible comments you always make. lol. You make women, such as myself proud to be female!!! :) Have a nice weekend.
People Power wrote:
ex labour voter wrote: jrb wrote: People Power wrote: As for the rants between jrb and ex -labour - voter - if you really must be so repulsive to each other swap e-mail addresses and have a go at each other elsewhere. Not on a Public forum - thankyou! Sure you two aren't the first and definately wont be the last to be bounced or taken off this Comments Forum indefinately if you carry on this way! Its the weekend for g*ds sake - keep it real, a bit more light hearted humour would be a good start!
Yes I suppose your right..ok Ex -labour,lets call a halt to the bickering.And I'm not a labour supporter in any way shape or form.
Aye, I will go along with that jrb,cheers. PP you should change yer name to peace pipe. Well done for your contribution on this matter. Glad to see your not labour drones . bye till next time.
Thats what I like to see! Peace and harmony among all forum users alike! Prefer the alias name I've used previously - "Jillette Razor-Tongue!" - "The Best A Man Can Get!" Funnily enough when I spoke to someone at the E.T. Website dept re this story going awol, he thought "People Power" was a guy! Made me laugh! ;-) Cheers. P.P.
People Power, great posts, as usuall. And I dont know for the life of me why ANYONE would think your a guy with such sensible comments you always make. lol. You make women, such as myself proud to be female!!! :) Have a nice weekend.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:37pm Sat 23 Feb 08
Cheers Scottish Rose - Just as well you can't see me - as I'm blushing with all these compliments! LOL ;-)
Just like a mixture of lively banter, debate and a good laugh combined.
No time for offensive remarks, personal slandering or direct goes at one another. We're all human afterall!
Cheers Scottish Rose - Just as well you can't see me - as I'm blushing with all these compliments! LOL ;-)
Just like a mixture of lively banter, debate and a good laugh combined.
No time for offensive remarks, personal slandering or direct goes at one another. We're all human afterall!
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 7:31pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
Cheers Scottish Rose - Just as well you can't see me - as I'm blushing with all these compliments! LOL ;-) Just like a mixture of lively banter, debate and a good laugh combined. No time for offensive remarks, personal slandering or direct goes at one another. We're all human afterall! [/quote] Like I said before P.P. I have family in Glasgow, and I thank GOD, for people like YOU!!!
People Power wrote:
Cheers Scottish Rose - Just as well you can't see me - as I'm blushing with all these compliments! LOL ;-) Just like a mixture of lively banter, debate and a good laugh combined. No time for offensive remarks, personal slandering or direct goes at one another. We're all human afterall!
Like I said before P.P. I have family in Glasgow, and I thank GOD, for people like YOU!!!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 9:17pm Sat 23 Feb 08
Aye!! Us Scots are a hardy lot - interestingly my friend has family living in Cincinnati and California.....
Just a pity us Scots don't get the climate you get accross the pond - as we could do with a nice ridge of high pressure and some settled sunny weather. Roll on Spring!
Talking about weather - I still can't get over the way our transport infrastructure is ground to a halt over a few cm's of snow - yet the States get several inches or feet and I bet it doesn't get the same media coverage as it does here!
As for these corporate louts - I simply boycott a number of the multi-national chains in the first place. This bad publicity for companies like Starbucks and Subway gives me justification, and makes me feel glad I dont go near them.
Sad so few folk have a conscience when it comes to handing over their money to these littering, and less than moral rogues!
Aye!! Us Scots are a hardy lot - interestingly my friend has family living in Cincinnati and California.....
Just a pity us Scots don't get the climate you get accross the pond - as we could do with a nice ridge of high pressure and some settled sunny weather. Roll on Spring!
Talking about weather - I still can't get over the way our transport infrastructure is ground to a halt over a few cm's of snow - yet the States get several inches or feet and I bet it doesn't get the same media coverage as it does here!
As for these corporate louts - I simply boycott a number of the multi-national chains in the first place. This bad publicity for companies like Starbucks and Subway gives me justification, and makes me feel glad I dont go near them.
Sad so few folk have a conscience when it comes to handing over their money to these littering, and less than moral rogues!
Posted by: the duke of duke street, glasgow on 7:49am Mon 25 Feb 08
judging by the number of times mr kings outlets have been caught littering the city I presume that glasgow city council wouldn't dream of allowing him near any one of our city's deer green places.
judging by the number of times mr kings outlets have been caught littering the city I presume that glasgow city council wouldn't dream of allowing him near any one of our city's deer green places.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:54am Mon 25 Feb 08
Are you kidding - with their reverse logics and fiascos with The Squinty Bridge & Glasgow Tower - their bound to be delighted to hand over the keys to the entire Botanics on a silver tray to Mr King! (Heaven forbid!)
THis is one time when I can say Mr King is: "King By Name and NOT By Nature!" As no Royal figures would be as criminal as to take away our green space with the ludicrous idea of G1 Group & King! G.C.C. Beware - this fight is only just beginning!
Are you kidding - with their reverse logics and fiascos with The Squinty Bridge & Glasgow Tower - their bound to be delighted to hand over the keys to the entire Botanics on a silver tray to Mr King! (Heaven forbid!)
THis is one time when I can say Mr King is: "King By Name and NOT By Nature!" As no Royal figures would be as criminal as to take away our green space with the ludicrous idea of G1 Group & King! G.C.C. Beware - this fight is only just beginning!
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 7:02pm Mon 25 Feb 08
the story about corporate companies should be very aware regarding any rubbish being left to blow in the wind all over the place, if some i.d.theives get their hands on some of the info from the paperwork they could do damage to their business and to their customers, (how do you think the bank forgerers who made fake money got caught?),they did not shred the evidence or leave things TIDY.
the story about corporate companies should be very aware regarding any rubbish being left to blow in the wind all over the place, if some i.d.theives get their hands on some of the info from the paperwork they could do damage to their business and to their customers, (how do you think the bank forgerers who made fake money got caught?),they did not shred the evidence or leave things TIDY.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:54pm Mon 25 Feb 08
Everybody knows from the TV Coverage that banks have been fined for irresponsibly disposing of their customers financial details.
Its only the corrupt enough folk, with time on their hands that go to such lengths as taking banks bin bags away for raking through.
Although twas only recently I saw someone acting suspiciously raking through the rubbish bags in back courts.
Begs the question re - security : Just how many people these days bother to shred their sensitive information or credit details.
Everybody knows from the TV Coverage that banks have been fined for irresponsibly disposing of their customers financial details.
Its only the corrupt enough folk, with time on their hands that go to such lengths as taking banks bin bags away for raking through.
Although twas only recently I saw someone acting suspiciously raking through the rubbish bags in back courts.
Begs the question re - security : Just how many people these days bother to shred their sensitive information or credit details.
Posted by: laff1girl, glasgow on 12:54am Tue 26 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Who ever came up with the idea that an individual dropping a single piece of litter in the street and a large business disposing of their waste irresponsibly deserve the exact same penalty?[/quote] Exactly... and why is [bold]Glasgow City Council[/bold] not on the list after their mismanagement ([italic]as highlighted by the ET[/italic]) meant the streets of Glasgow teemed with litter over the festive period?[/quote] couldnt agree with you more the council is the worst offender
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Who ever came up with the idea that an individual dropping a single piece of litter in the street and a large business disposing of their waste irresponsibly deserve the exact same penalty?
Exactly... and why is Glasgow City Council not on the list after their mismanagement (as highlighted by the ET) meant the streets of Glasgow teemed with litter over the festive period?
couldnt agree with you more the council is the worst offender
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