Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:50am Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote]... those who continue to disregard the law will not go unpunished[/quote]
Dear, dear, I know that education is not Mr Purcell's strong point, so I will keep this simple and enlist the help of Scotland's leading quality newspaper. Mr Purcell, what part of the following headline do you [bold]NOT[/bold] understand:
[bold]Fines for children who drop litter in street cannot be enforced[/bold]
[italic]February 16 2008[/italic]
Answers on a postcard to the editor of The Herald please...
... those who continue to disregard the law will not go unpunished
Dear, dear, I know that education is not Mr Purcell's strong point, so I will keep this simple and enlist the help of Scotland's leading quality newspaper. Mr Purcell, what part of the following headline do you
NOT understand:
Fines for children who drop litter in street cannot be enforced
February 16 2008
Answers on a postcard to the editor of The Herald please...
Posted by: Mr T, Glasgow on 12:10pm Mon 25 Feb 08
i wonder how many people have given the wrong details and if they have got away with it?
im sure many people may know other peoples full details so could easily give them out to these wardens and wing it....
do comment!!
haha
i wonder how many people have given the wrong details and if they have got away with it?
im sure many people may know other peoples full details so could easily give them out to these wardens and wing it....
do comment!!
haha
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 1:02pm Mon 25 Feb 08
I always wondered how they would enforce it. It's not like you have a registration plate hanging round you neck.
I always wondered how they would enforce it. It's not like you have a registration plate hanging round you neck.
Posted by: Tarry breeks, Partick on 1:36pm Mon 25 Feb 08
They should take a photograph (mugshot) of the litter louts and if they provide a false address post it on a website with a £50 reward for their details. Once caught fine the louts £250 for the original fine, time wasting and reward for the informant.
They should take a photograph (mugshot) of the litter louts and if they provide a false address post it on a website with a £50 reward for their details. Once caught fine the louts £250 for the original fine, time wasting and reward for the informant.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 2:24pm Mon 25 Feb 08
If found guilty , They should be made to pick up litter for 3 months ...
If found guilty , They should be made to pick up litter for 3 months ...
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:43pm Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Tarry breeks[/bold] wrote:
They should take a photograph (mugshot) of the litter louts and if they provide a false address post it on a website with a £50 reward for their details. Once caught fine the louts £250 for the original fine, time wasting and reward for the informant.[/quote] Sir, do you harbour aspirations to hold high public office?
Do you by chance have a spare few hours a month to visit Glasgow City Chambers and live the good life?
Do you revel in seeing your photo in the paper daily?
[italic]Why?[/italic] Because that is exactly what Mr Purcell intended doing... until his legal team informed him that one cannot publish someone's photo without a crime having already been proven.
Tarry breeks wrote:
They should take a photograph (mugshot) of the litter louts and if they provide a false address post it on a website with a £50 reward for their details. Once caught fine the louts £250 for the original fine, time wasting and reward for the informant.
Sir, do you harbour aspirations to hold high public office?
Do you by chance have a spare few hours a month to visit Glasgow City Chambers and live the good life?
Do you revel in seeing your photo in the paper daily?
Why? Because that is exactly what Mr Purcell intended doing... until his legal team informed him that one cannot publish someone's photo without a crime having already been proven.
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 2:51pm Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
I always wondered how they would enforce it. It's not like you have a registration plate hanging round you neck.[/quote] Hahaha, that was good Fanto!!
Fanto wrote:
I always wondered how they would enforce it. It's not like you have a registration plate hanging round you neck.
Hahaha, that was good Fanto!!
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 3:00pm Mon 25 Feb 08
Wouldn't it be nice if they pursued criminal activity with the vigour as littering?
Chirnside comes to mind, GCC.
Wouldn't it be nice if they pursued criminal activity with the vigour as littering?
Chirnside comes to mind, GCC.
Posted by: dan, West end on 3:12pm Mon 25 Feb 08
Id love to be a fly on the Fiscals wall re the vast number of cases reported.It used to be a warning letter from the PF for street litter offences.Now though it is clearly a political agenda to make the Council look good and places extra pressure on the Fiscals office.
Money,Money,Money.
Re your picture,do these wardens patrol in threes?
Id love to be a fly on the Fiscals wall re the vast number of cases reported.It used to be a warning letter from the PF for street litter offences.Now though it is clearly a political agenda to make the Council look good and places extra pressure on the Fiscals office.
Money,Money,Money.
Re your picture,do these wardens patrol in threes?
Posted by: Bri, Glasgow on 3:16pm Mon 25 Feb 08
As if the courts don't have enough to deal with, now they're going to have to put up with this as well!!!
"Did you drop a piece of paper in George Square on Nov 12, 2007?" "Naw big yin. Ah wiz stawnin watchin them burds what crap everywhere, when a dod of paper blew up aff the grun, clocked me in the face, then wan eh them dafties in green telt me a'hd drapped it!!"
How long before the ET prints the names of the people who've refused to pay the fines? Oh wait...
As if the courts don't have enough to deal with, now they're going to have to put up with this as well!!!
"Did you drop a piece of paper in George Square on Nov 12, 2007?" "Naw big yin. Ah wiz stawnin watchin them burds what crap everywhere, when a dod of paper blew up aff the grun, clocked me in the face, then wan eh them dafties in green telt me a'hd drapped it!!"
How long before the ET prints the names of the people who've refused to pay the fines? Oh wait...
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 3:28pm Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
I always wondered how they would enforce it. It's not like you have a registration plate hanging round you neck.[/quote] Don"t give them ideas ...
Fanto wrote:
I always wondered how they would enforce it. It's not like you have a registration plate hanging round you neck.
Don"t give them ideas ...
Posted by: dtb, Glasga on 3:30pm Mon 25 Feb 08
"FIVE HUNDRED litter louts have been reported to prosecutors for not paying their fines........"
So its 500x50, whats that for a whole £25,000. I wonder how much it costs to put the case through court. Any answers anyone ?
"FIVE HUNDRED litter louts have been reported to prosecutors for not paying their fines........"
So its 500x50, whats that for a whole £25,000. I wonder how much it costs to put the case through court. Any answers anyone ?
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 3:31pm Mon 25 Feb 08
What happens if say two hundred or so of these offenders plead not guilty, will they face a trial by jury and at what cost,wittnesses,juro
rs prosecutors,defence and if the offenders is entitled to legal aid that's another extra cost to the taxpayer and less money for services.And at the end of the day if found guilty may not even face a fine depending on social circumstances.
What happens if say two hundred or so of these offenders plead not guilty, will they face a trial by jury and at what cost,wittnesses,juro
rs prosecutors,defence and if the offenders is entitled to legal aid that's another extra cost to the taxpayer and less money for services.And at the end of the day if found guilty may not even face a fine depending on social circumstances.
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 3:51pm Mon 25 Feb 08
I wonder how many thieves,rapists,mugg
ers etc are going to get off because of all the time these litter offences will take up????
The courts are overstretched by the tactics of unscrupulous lawyers, immigration hearings and the like as well as the criminals thenmselves!!
Excuses like, "it blew up off the ground, hit me and fell back down" ARE enough to install a doubt in the mind, therefor a not proven guilty would be expected. What a waste of time and money.
By the way, at the lawyers last week (again) on a child custody case ......... the other half and I were the only white people out of 26 in the waiting room!!!!!!! How much is THAT costing us?????????
Every one of them on expensive mobile phones whilst waiting, no doubt we are paying for that too.
I wonder how many thieves,rapists,mugg
ers etc are going to get off because of all the time these litter offences will take up????
The courts are overstretched by the tactics of unscrupulous lawyers, immigration hearings and the like as well as the criminals thenmselves!!
Excuses like, "it blew up off the ground, hit me and fell back down" ARE enough to install a doubt in the mind, therefor a not proven guilty would be expected. What a waste of time and money.
By the way, at the lawyers last week (again) on a child custody case ......... the other half and I were the only white people out of 26 in the waiting room!!!!!!! How much is THAT costing us?????????
Every one of them on expensive mobile phones whilst waiting, no doubt we are paying for that too.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:28pm Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]dan[/bold] wrote:
Id love to be a fly on the Fiscals wall re the vast number of cases reported.It used to be a warning letter from the PF for street litter offences.Now though it is clearly a political agenda to make the Council look good and places extra pressure on the Fiscals office. Money,Money,Money. Re your picture,do these wardens patrol in threes?[/quote] I'm sure their measured response would be along the lines of that given by a representative of the children's hearing system who said the following last week about possible additional referrals to them of children:
[quote]"We are [bold]appalled[/bold] at the thought of an extra flurry of referrals. We can't cope with that."[/quote]
Just what they think privately about the behaviour of this [bold]inexperienced, failing[/bold] council leader probably couldn't be printed on the pages of a family newspaper!!!
dan wrote:
Id love to be a fly on the Fiscals wall re the vast number of cases reported.It used to be a warning letter from the PF for street litter offences.Now though it is clearly a political agenda to make the Council look good and places extra pressure on the Fiscals office. Money,Money,Money. Re your picture,do these wardens patrol in threes?
I'm sure their measured response would be along the lines of that given by a representative of the children's hearing system who said the following last week about possible additional referrals to them of children:
"We are appalled at the thought of an extra flurry of referrals. We can't cope with that."
Just what they think privately about the behaviour of this
inexperienced, failing council leader probably couldn't be printed on the pages of a family newspaper!!!
Posted by: dan, West end on 4:44pm Mon 25 Feb 08
Bri, get yourself over the Squinty Bridge to the BBC.They are looking for script writers for the new STILL GAME.
Great wee comment,good bit of fun.
Dan.
An pick up that fag packet.
Bri, get yourself over the Squinty Bridge to the BBC.They are looking for script writers for the new STILL GAME.
Great wee comment,good bit of fun.
Dan.
An pick up that fag packet.
Posted by: Maryhill Bill, Wyndford on 4:53pm Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote]They now face being taken to court to stump up the £50 penalty after they were caught littering Glasgow's streets [/quote]
It is up to the court to decide if they are guilty and not the Evening Times.
They now face being taken to court to stump up the £50 penalty after they were caught littering Glasgow's streets
It is up to the court to decide if they are guilty and not the Evening Times.
Posted by: BhoyWunda, East Kilbride on 5:26pm Mon 25 Feb 08
Slow news day.
Posted by: Bri, Glasgow on 5:39pm Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]dan[/bold] wrote:
Bri, get yourself over the Squinty Bridge to the BBC.They are looking for script writers for the new STILL GAME. Great wee comment,good bit of fun. Dan. An pick up that fag packet.[/quote] I would do, but the bridge is shut cause it's falling down, the council need money to fix it, & the fag packet's no mine...the wind done it!! [bold]bold[/bold] *grins*[bold]bold[/bold]
dan wrote:
Bri, get yourself over the Squinty Bridge to the BBC.They are looking for script writers for the new STILL GAME. Great wee comment,good bit of fun. Dan. An pick up that fag packet.
I would do, but the bridge is shut cause it's falling down, the council need money to fix it, & the fag packet's no mine...the wind done it!! *grins*
Posted by: Whoop-de_doo, Arizona on 6:04pm Mon 25 Feb 08
Bring back Hanging and the Birch I say...
Public floggings on the spot oughta do it!
Bring back Hanging and the Birch I say...
Public floggings on the spot oughta do it!
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 6:33pm Mon 25 Feb 08
How long before someone blows the whistle on Mr Purcell, there has to be skeletons in this mans closet that will come out so to speak...
How long before someone blows the whistle on Mr Purcell, there has to be skeletons in this mans closet that will come out so to speak...
Posted by: Frank, Glasgow on 6:38pm Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]I hear your pain[/bold] wrote:
How long before someone blows the whistle on Mr Purcell, there has to be skeletons in this mans closet that will come out so to speak...[/quote] If anyone had any they would be out by now. Mr Purcell is the best thing to happen to glasgow for years and gutter snipes like you should leave off. Labour are delivering that is your problem.
I hear your pain wrote:
How long before someone blows the whistle on Mr Purcell, there has to be skeletons in this mans closet that will come out so to speak...
If anyone had any they would be out by now. Mr Purcell is the best thing to happen to glasgow for years and gutter snipes like you should leave off. Labour are delivering that is your problem.
Posted by: laff1girl, glasgow on 12:50am Tue 26 Feb 08
what makes me laugh is where i live our weekly uplift has to be put out at front courts but council didnt tell us we had to rely on someone who work for them to tell us used to have to put it out on the back courts so our back has mattresses and alsorts and the guy that works for them he doesnt even put his own bin out his mates come to the backcourt to pick it up for him but if we forget to put our bins out left for another week why i pay the same council tax as him
what makes me laugh is where i live our weekly uplift has to be put out at front courts but council didnt tell us we had to rely on someone who work for them to tell us used to have to put it out on the back courts so our back has mattresses and alsorts and the guy that works for them he doesnt even put his own bin out his mates come to the backcourt to pick it up for him but if we forget to put our bins out left for another week why i pay the same council tax as him
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 8:20am Tue 26 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Frank[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]I hear your pain[/bold] wrote:
How long before someone blows the whistle on Mr Purcell, there has to be skeletons in this mans closet that will come out so to speak...[/quote] If anyone had any they would be out by now. Mr Purcell is the best thing to happen to glasgow for years and gutter snipes like you should leave off. Labour are delivering that is your problem.[/quote] Frank you sad delude little labourite go & recheck your fact..Labour have failed to deliver anything of value, they play on the publics fears & run stupid campaigns that tie up the legal system allowing more serious crime to go unpunished..
Now go up stairs & Mummy will be up to tuck you in yah nunpty
Frank wrote:
I hear your pain wrote:
How long before someone blows the whistle on Mr Purcell, there has to be skeletons in this mans closet that will come out so to speak...
If anyone had any they would be out by now. Mr Purcell is the best thing to happen to glasgow for years and gutter snipes like you should leave off. Labour are delivering that is your problem.
Frank you sad delude little labourite go & recheck your fact..Labour have failed to deliver anything of value, they play on the publics fears & run stupid campaigns that tie up the legal system allowing more serious crime to go unpunished..
Now go up stairs & Mummy will be up to tuck you in yah nunpty
Posted by: Scott, Airdrie on 8:49am Tue 26 Feb 08
[quote][bold]laff1girl[/bold] wrote:
what makes me laugh is where i live our weekly uplift has to be put out at front courts but council didnt tell us we had to rely on someone who work for them to tell us used to have to put it out on the back courts so our back has mattresses and alsorts and the guy that works for them he doesnt even put his own bin out his mates come to the backcourt to pick it up for him but if we forget to put our bins out left for another week why i pay the same council tax as him[/quote] Maybe he's mastered the concept of punctuation.
laff1girl wrote:
what makes me laugh is where i live our weekly uplift has to be put out at front courts but council didnt tell us we had to rely on someone who work for them to tell us used to have to put it out on the back courts so our back has mattresses and alsorts and the guy that works for them he doesnt even put his own bin out his mates come to the backcourt to pick it up for him but if we forget to put our bins out left for another week why i pay the same council tax as him
Maybe he's mastered the concept of punctuation.
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