Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 10:50am Fri 14 Mar 08
For all their fancy words, what these members and officials of Glasgow City Council actually want to do is turn the city centre into a [bold]sterile bubble of privilege[/bold], where their chosen 'elite' can pretend the whole city is basking in the glow of trickle-down economics... they should be ashamed, [italic]but of course they're not[/italic]!
For all their fancy words, what these members and officials of Glasgow City Council actually want to do is turn the city centre into a
sterile bubble of privilege, where their chosen 'elite' can pretend the whole city is basking in the glow of trickle-down economics... they should be ashamed,
but of course they're not!
Posted by: the man, moral high ground on 10:53am Fri 14 Mar 08
Before Steven Purcell and the other luvvies congratulate themselves on ridding Glasgow of this crime ridden midden could we all consider the following . It was Purcell and his predecessors who allowed this famous , and for some poor folk vital, market to rot into the state it is in today . There always was an agenda for the last twenty years to close this market .All Purcell and his cronies were looking for was the reason . So dont be fooled by our councillors as they are to blame for not managing this problem . Perhaps we could keep the market open and let our M P`S chose their furniture from the stallholders . Lot cheaper than John Lewis . Clean up the market and keep it open . This is Glasgow`s history and should not be replaced by not some ponced up ethnic market ( please no racist accusations it becomes boring ) Incidentally visit the market and you will see immigrants happily buying clothes etc. as prices are cheap .
Before Steven Purcell and the other luvvies congratulate themselves on ridding Glasgow of this crime ridden midden could we all consider the following . It was Purcell and his predecessors who allowed this famous , and for some poor folk vital, market to rot into the state it is in today . There always was an agenda for the last twenty years to close this market .All Purcell and his cronies were looking for was the reason . So dont be fooled by our councillors as they are to blame for not managing this problem . Perhaps we could keep the market open and let our M P`S chose their furniture from the stallholders . Lot cheaper than John Lewis . Clean up the market and keep it open . This is Glasgow`s history and should not be replaced by not some ponced up ethnic market ( please no racist accusations it becomes boring ) Incidentally visit the market and you will see immigrants happily buying clothes etc. as prices are cheap .
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:02am Fri 14 Mar 08
A "crime-ridden midden", indeed:
[bold]tinyurl.com/2scd5r[/bold]
A "crime-ridden midden", indeed:
tinyurl.com/2scd5rPosted by: Scott, Airdrie on 11:12am Fri 14 Mar 08
Same old judgemental, exaggeration-based attack on GCC for anything they try to do. Can't see the positive in anything. Nothing better to do. Forgot to blame Steven Purcell.
Boring......tedious.
....time to change the record.
Same old judgemental, exaggeration-based attack on GCC for anything they try to do. Can't see the positive in anything. Nothing better to do. Forgot to blame Steven Purcell.
Boring......tedious.
....time to change the record.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 11:19am Fri 14 Mar 08
"[italic]Incidentally visit the market and you will see immigrants happily buying clothes etc. as prices are cheap[/italic] ".
Dear oh dear.
Yeah, those happy poor immigrants.
"
Incidentally visit the market and you will see immigrants happily buying clothes etc. as prices are cheap ".
Dear oh dear.
Yeah, those happy poor immigrants.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:20am Fri 14 Mar 08
I agree The council could have easily done something about this years ago ,Tody it up keep it clean The crime dealing etc.Will just move into the streets around and Glasgow green .Really sad that it has came to this.
I agree The council could have easily done something about this years ago ,Tody it up keep it clean The crime dealing etc.Will just move into the streets around and Glasgow green .Really sad that it has came to this.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:23am Fri 14 Mar 08
Look at the units at King street Arty farty,The shops keep opening & closing To let slapped all over it ,So what makeds the council think Camden market 2 will work.
Look at the units at King street Arty farty,The shops keep opening & closing To let slapped all over it ,So what makeds the council think Camden market 2 will work.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:36am Fri 14 Mar 08
Our good friends at Newsquest (Herald & Times) have certainly changed their tune, from The Herald 'Student Guide to Glasgow', September 23rd 2004:
[italic]Recommended attraction #27[/italic]
[quote][bold]Paddy's market[/bold]
Paddy's market makes the Barras look positively sophisticated. It takes the form of a cobbled alleyway, packed with [bold]purveyors of finest second-hand tat[/bold]: toys, CDs, clothes, seven Kit-Kats for a pound, that kind of thing.
Paddy's is very, very Glasgow, so [bold]make sure you go[/bold]. Every day, in and around the Briggait.[/quote]
Our good friends at Newsquest (Herald & Times) have certainly changed their tune, from The Herald 'Student Guide to Glasgow', September 23rd 2004:
Recommended attraction #27
Paddy's market
Paddy's market makes the Barras look positively sophisticated. It takes the form of a cobbled alleyway, packed with purveyors of finest second-hand tat: toys, CDs, clothes, seven Kit-Kats for a pound, that kind of thing.
Paddy's is very, very Glasgow, so make sure you go. Every day, in and around the Briggait.
Posted by: Wallace_Arnold, Glasgow on 11:39am Fri 14 Mar 08
Wonder if the Barras will be next.
Wonder if the Barras will be next.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:50am Fri 14 Mar 08
They are offering the Barras stall holders Nice new stalls to stay,But only when they half the size of it,The barras is to close down.The whole area is to be redeveloped.
They are offering the Barras stall holders Nice new stalls to stay,But only when they half the size of it,The barras is to close down.The whole area is to be redeveloped.
Posted by: Wallace_Arnold, Glasgow on 11:56am Fri 14 Mar 08
How do they plan to improve the Barras area? By demolishing it and building a slum? ;-)
Didn't know that about the Barras. Used to go years ago but it's gone downhill since then if we're honest. Never been to Paddy's Market.
How do they plan to improve the Barras area? By demolishing it and building a slum? ;-)
Didn't know that about the Barras. Used to go years ago but it's gone downhill since then if we're honest. Never been to Paddy's Market.
Posted by: mike, Partick on 11:57am Fri 14 Mar 08
About time something like this was done....the Barras should go too if it continues to be a hive for organized crime!
About time something like this was done....the Barras should go too if it continues to be a hive for organized crime!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:04pm Fri 14 Mar 08
I remember Barras as kid in 60s Open till Midnight at xmas eve ,I lived On Bridgegate in 60s,Used to cut through Paddys maket on way to Buchan st primary.We used to clime up onto railway above paddys and throw stones down onto the stall selling china:)I probably started the crime wave.
I remember Barras as kid in 60s Open till Midnight at xmas eve ,I lived On Bridgegate in 60s,Used to cut through Paddys maket on way to Buchan st primary.We used to clime up onto railway above paddys and throw stones down onto the stall selling china:)I probably started the crime wave.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 12:28pm Fri 14 Mar 08
I agree with all the rebellious comments here. Paddy's is a part of glasgow's history one way or another. Attempting to get rid of it is like a cultural version of [bold]Ethnic Cleansing[/bold] . Its because of the politicans intertia that Paddy's continues to provide cheap things to people at the lower end of the social bracket ,and taking away this right borders on Nazi. Although i dont have need to go to Paddy's i still would like the right to do so if needs be. Anytime i have gone to Paddys th traders have been friendly decent people who jave provided a valuable service to the poorer commuinites of Glasgow. The beauty of Paddys is that you never know whta you are going to find, and to me thats its beauty. If we go by the councils argument if i see criminality at a football stadium can i ask he council to close the football stadium? No. Paddy's should be defended from any makeover. Paddys is beautiful in its own special way. Only Glaswegians will understand this.
I agree with all the rebellious comments here. Paddy's is a part of glasgow's history one way or another. Attempting to get rid of it is like a cultural version of
Ethnic Cleansing . Its because of the politicans intertia that Paddy's continues to provide cheap things to people at the lower end of the social bracket ,and taking away this right borders on Nazi. Although i dont have need to go to Paddy's i still would like the right to do so if needs be. Anytime i have gone to Paddys th traders have been friendly decent people who jave provided a valuable service to the poorer commuinites of Glasgow. The beauty of Paddys is that you never know whta you are going to find, and to me thats its beauty. If we go by the councils argument if i see criminality at a football stadium can i ask he council to close the football stadium? No. Paddy's should be defended from any makeover. Paddys is beautiful in its own special way. Only Glaswegians will understand this.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:32pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Next they will want the Mortuary next door,Maybe make a nice eatery Cafe bar.!
Next they will want the Mortuary next door,Maybe make a nice eatery Cafe bar.!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 12:44pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[italic]Here, here Meep, excellent points![/italic]
Did you notice how Cllr Matheson slipped in a comment about the long-vacant, derelict '[bold]Selfridges[/bold] site' in his mutterings:
[quote]"[italic]Glasgow has moved on and we will not be dragged down by a blight which detracts from our efforts to regenerate the city[/italic]."[/quote]
Can I take it that he has made progress in this area, after years of wanton neglect and failure on his part???
Here, here Meep, excellent points!
Did you notice how Cllr Matheson slipped in a comment about the long-vacant, derelict '
Selfridges site' in his mutterings:
"Glasgow has moved on and we will not be dragged down by a blight which detracts from our efforts to regenerate the city."
Can I take it that he has made progress in this area, after years of wanton neglect and failure on his part???
Posted by: chedwardall, glasgow on 12:45pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Make no bones about it the Barras will go. Its sitting on prime development land close to the city centre and that means a developers' feeding frenzy.
Make no bones about it the Barras will go. Its sitting on prime development land close to the city centre and that means a developers' feeding frenzy.
Posted by: chedwardall, glasgow on 12:45pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Make no bones about it the Barras will go. Its sitting on prime development land close to the city centre and that means a developers' feeding frenzy.
Make no bones about it the Barras will go. Its sitting on prime development land close to the city centre and that means a developers' feeding frenzy.
Posted by: mike, Partick on 1:09pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Missing City - it was you who said "nae shoes" I just assumed you were embarrassed because of the holes...apologies, I hadn't realised you'd lost them altogether ;-) let me know your address and I'll come round in ma big car and give you a handout of all that wealth I have access to....
Missing City - it was you who said "nae shoes" I just assumed you were embarrassed because of the holes...apologies, I hadn't realised you'd lost them altogether ;-) let me know your address and I'll come round in ma big car and give you a handout of all that wealth I have access to....
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:17pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mike[/bold] wrote:
Missing City - it was you who said "nae shoes" I just assumed you were embarrassed because of the holes...apologies, I hadn't realised you'd lost them altogether ;-) let me know your address and I'll come round in ma big car and give you a handout of all that wealth I have access to....[/quote] Och Mikey Boy, ah canny hive ye daein that son, ah meen the boys in mah hostel will want tae rob ye for showin aff yer wealth an aw that!
But aye, if ye fancy gein me a new pair of shoes tae walk about on ma daily midden pickings then feel free to visit the old place on the dilapidated Paisley Road just at the other side of The Kingston Bridge.
As a matter of fact, why don't you bring us up some goodies like tins of good food and a few items of clothing for the lads - that would help.
Failing that, you'll catch me down at Glasgow Cross, which for some reason hasn't been demolished yet - terribly auld fashioned that place - stinks of fish - lovely!
mike wrote:
Missing City - it was you who said "nae shoes" I just assumed you were embarrassed because of the holes...apologies, I hadn't realised you'd lost them altogether ;-) let me know your address and I'll come round in ma big car and give you a handout of all that wealth I have access to....
Och Mikey Boy, ah canny hive ye daein that son, ah meen the boys in mah hostel will want tae rob ye for showin aff yer wealth an aw that!
But aye, if ye fancy gein me a new pair of shoes tae walk about on ma daily midden pickings then feel free to visit the old place on the dilapidated Paisley Road just at the other side of The Kingston Bridge.
As a matter of fact, why don't you bring us up some goodies like tins of good food and a few items of clothing for the lads - that would help.
Failing that, you'll catch me down at Glasgow Cross, which for some reason hasn't been demolished yet - terribly auld fashioned that place - stinks of fish - lovely!
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 1:20pm Fri 14 Mar 08
"We present ourselves quite rightly as a vibrant and cultural city which is a good place to live and work and visit. Paddy's Market does not fit with that ambition."
aye very good mr matheson ya snooty ****, i suppose this is the same way farmfoods disnae fit in wi silverburn cause its a shop for "common people" or why people wi money sneer at others who shop at matalan or lidl!
this whole city these days makes me sick tae ma stomach the GCC and that chanty wrastler in command are biggeer robbers than anybody at paddys market! nothin but a bunch of snobby fat wasters, waiting to sell every inch of this citys history doon the swany fur the right price, and replace it wi a romanian deli to prove how "culturaly aware" they are! and glaswiegians can have good wholesome multicultural traders instead!
"We present ourselves quite rightly as a vibrant and cultural city which is a good place to live and work and visit. Paddy's Market does not fit with that ambition."
aye very good mr matheson ya snooty ****, i suppose this is the same way farmfoods disnae fit in wi silverburn cause its a shop for "common people" or why people wi money sneer at others who shop at matalan or lidl!
this whole city these days makes me sick tae ma stomach the GCC and that chanty wrastler in command are biggeer robbers than anybody at paddys market! nothin but a bunch of snobby fat wasters, waiting to sell every inch of this citys history doon the swany fur the right price, and replace it wi a romanian deli to prove how "culturaly aware" they are! and glaswiegians can have good wholesome multicultural traders instead!
Posted by: mike, Partick on 1:20pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Missing City (or should that be Shoes?) - Lol. You're thoughtfulness personified. I'll keep an eye out for you at the old place on Paisley Road - I know it well.
Missing City (or should that be Shoes?) - Lol. You're thoughtfulness personified. I'll keep an eye out for you at the old place on Paisley Road - I know it well.
Posted by: debbie, glasgow, glasgow on 1:43pm Fri 14 Mar 08
I agree with Scott, same old boring negative rubbish on these comment pages.
If people cant see that the council are trying to get rid of the scum that ruin paddys market and make into a place where people can sell thier stuff in a safe and pleasant environment, then what exactly do you want for Glasgow? A dodgy, unsafe, unclean, drug invested, crime ridden city? Some people from here actually want to to enjoy Glasgow's culture and want to get rid of Paddy's Market as it is and make it better so that all in Glasgow can enjoy it.
I agree with Scott, same old boring negative rubbish on these comment pages.
If people cant see that the council are trying to get rid of the scum that ruin paddys market and make into a place where people can sell thier stuff in a safe and pleasant environment, then what exactly do you want for Glasgow? A dodgy, unsafe, unclean, drug invested, crime ridden city? Some people from here actually want to to enjoy Glasgow's culture and want to get rid of Paddy's Market as it is and make it better so that all in Glasgow can enjoy it.
Posted by: debbie, glasgow, glasgow on 1:44pm Fri 14 Mar 08
I agree with Scott, same old boring negative rubbish on these comment pages.
If people cant see that the council are trying to get rid of the scum that ruin paddys market and make into a place where people can sell thier stuff in a safe and pleasant environment, then what exactly do you want for Glasgow? A dodgy, unsafe, unclean, drug invested, crime ridden city? Some people from here actually want to to enjoy Glasgow's culture and want to get rid of Paddy's Market as it is and make it better so that all in Glasgow can enjoy it.
I agree with Scott, same old boring negative rubbish on these comment pages.
If people cant see that the council are trying to get rid of the scum that ruin paddys market and make into a place where people can sell thier stuff in a safe and pleasant environment, then what exactly do you want for Glasgow? A dodgy, unsafe, unclean, drug invested, crime ridden city? Some people from here actually want to to enjoy Glasgow's culture and want to get rid of Paddy's Market as it is and make it better so that all in Glasgow can enjoy it.
Posted by: Lol, Glasgow on 1:57pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done!
Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:04pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Lol[/bold] wrote:
Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done![/quote] [bold]This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out![/bold]
Lol wrote:
Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done!
This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out! Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:07pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[bold]People on here are slagging the death out of their own people - that is sad, but no -one reports that - Hmm who's promoting racism then eh?[/bold]
People on here are slagging the death out of their own people - that is sad, but no -one reports that - Hmm who's promoting racism then eh? Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:12pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[bold]Or is it the fact because the Market is of "Irish Origin" that people on here want it closed for good?"[/bold]
[bold]Paddy's as in Tarriers etc[/bold]
Hmmmmm - if that's not racist - I don't know what is!
Or is it the fact because the Market is of "Irish Origin" that people on here want it closed for good?"
Paddy's as in Tarriers etc
Hmmmmm - if that's not racist - I don't know what is!
Posted by: Jackmac, Glasgow on 2:22pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Lol[/bold] wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done![/quote] [bold]This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out![/bold] [/quote] So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.
The Missing City wrote:
Lol wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done!
This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out!
So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.
Posted by: KB, Glasgow on 2:24pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
[bold]People on here are slagging the death out of their own people - that is sad, but no -one reports that - Hmm who's promoting racism then eh?[/bold] [/quote] WOW
Somebody got out of bed the wrong side today!
The Missing City wrote:
People on here are slagging the death out of their own people - that is sad, but no -one reports that - Hmm who's promoting racism then eh?
WOW
Somebody got out of bed the wrong side today!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:26pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Jackmac[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Lol[/bold] wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done![/quote] [bold]This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out![/bold] [/quote] So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.[/quote] Awww have I touched a nerve? Truth hurts when you hate your own people eh!
Tough!
Jackmac wrote:
The Missing City wrote: Lol wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done!
This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out!
So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.
Awww have I touched a nerve? Truth hurts when you hate your own people eh!
Tough!
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:28pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Jackmac[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Lol[/bold] wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done![/quote] [bold]This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out![/bold] [/quote] So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.[/quote] Pack it in children or there'll be no tea for you tonight.
Back to topic. Paddy's market is a bit of a dive but ordinary Glaswegians are being ostracised by this administration as a part of their "gentrification" of the city. You can't have Paddy's Market sitting beside £250K penthouses, can you.
BTW, knowing that GCC are avid fans of ET, perhaps they should read the story about private landlords not paying factors fees. That's what happens when you build flats that are overpriced and the local population cannot afford to buy.
Jackmac wrote:
The Missing City wrote: Lol wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done!
This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out!
So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.
Pack it in children or there'll be no tea for you tonight.
Back to topic. Paddy's market is a bit of a dive but ordinary Glaswegians are being ostracised by this administration as a part of their "gentrification" of the city. You can't have Paddy's Market sitting beside £250K penthouses, can you.
BTW, knowing that GCC are avid fans of ET, perhaps they should read the story about private landlords not paying factors fees. That's what happens when you build flats that are overpriced and the local population cannot afford to buy.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:30pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jackmac[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Lol[/bold] wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done![/quote] [bold]This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out![/bold] [/quote] So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.[/quote] Pack it in children or there'll be no tea for you tonight. Back to topic. Paddy's market is a bit of a dive but ordinary Glaswegians are being ostracised by this administration as a part of their "gentrification" of the city. You can't have Paddy's Market sitting beside £250K penthouses, can you. BTW, knowing that GCC are avid fans of ET, perhaps they should read the story about private landlords not paying factors fees. That's what happens when you build flats that are overpriced and the local population cannot afford to buy. [/quote] That and a whole load of other things Stewie - its a disgrace, but if you're one of Purcell's fluffy flock, then this what you are up against - a losing battle, so it seems!
Stewie Griffin wrote:
Jackmac wrote: The Missing City wrote: Lol wrote: Well said Jackmac- suggest you report this post as I have done!
This site is crap and half the posters are numpties who take life too sertiously and believe people below them should be wiped out!
So, not tolerating racism is "taking life too seriously". That must be the most pathetic defense I've ever read! Also, usual personal attacks when there is no reasoned argument available. If anyone should be "wiped out" it's the mindless bigots.
Pack it in children or there'll be no tea for you tonight. Back to topic. Paddy's market is a bit of a dive but ordinary Glaswegians are being ostracised by this administration as a part of their "gentrification" of the city. You can't have Paddy's Market sitting beside £250K penthouses, can you. BTW, knowing that GCC are avid fans of ET, perhaps they should read the story about private landlords not paying factors fees. That's what happens when you build flats that are overpriced and the local population cannot afford to buy.
That and a whole load of other things Stewie - its a disgrace, but if you're one of Purcell's fluffy flock, then this what you are up against - a losing battle, so it seems!
Posted by: gordyboy, glasgow on 2:39pm Fri 14 Mar 08
the only cut price bargains to be found here are valium and heroin .
the only cut price bargains to be found here are valium and heroin .
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:40pm Fri 14 Mar 08
That and a whole load of other things Stewie - its a disgrace, but [bold]unless[/bold] you're one of Purcell's fluffy flock, then this what you are up against - a losing battle, so it seems!
Sorry, last post typed in error - my humblest apologies Sir!
That and a whole load of other things Stewie - its a disgrace, but
unless you're one of Purcell's fluffy flock, then this what you are up against - a losing battle, so it seems!
Sorry, last post typed in error - my humblest apologies Sir!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:45pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gordyboy[/bold] wrote:
the only cut price bargains to be found here are valium and heroin .[/quote] Yes and who created that for us?
How come other markets in other towns and cities don't have this problem - probably because of whats been done to Glasgow and the peopole get abused for it instead of abusing those who are responsible for creating this den of filth it has become, not just this market - a large part of the city - but to snobs, schemes are full of trash!
Sheep! All for a vote to get their pals in at the election - pathetic!
gordyboy wrote:
the only cut price bargains to be found here are valium and heroin .
Yes and who created that for us?
How come other markets in other towns and cities don't have this problem - probably because of whats been done to Glasgow and the peopole get abused for it instead of abusing those who are responsible for creating this den of filth it has become, not just this market - a large part of the city - but to snobs, schemes are full of trash!
Sheep! All for a vote to get their pals in at the election - pathetic!
Posted by: GML, right here on 3:32pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Glasgow 'good old days' nostalgists: catch a grip, will you.
I am old enough to remember when the Barras was a friendly place welcoming to all. Even then (I mean the 1970s and early 80s), Paddy's market was a bit dodgy.
Now, the Barras is your destination of choice for smuggled fags, pirate DVDs and illicit software. All together now, sing the Barras anthem: "[italic]Cheap fags, cheap fags[/italic] "...It can get pretty frightening if you start asking questions.
Paddy's market is simply beyond desperate, and anyone wanting to "save it" wants to take the Oscar Marzoroli photos out of their specs and the cotton wool out of their nostrils. Be serious.
For providing clothes for the stoney broke, Asda, Primark and Lidl do a good job, or if you can't afford those prices there are plenty of charity shops.
Glasgow 'good old days' nostalgists: catch a grip, will you.
I am old enough to remember when the Barras was a friendly place welcoming to all. Even then (I mean the 1970s and early 80s), Paddy's market was a bit dodgy.
Now, the Barras is your destination of choice for smuggled fags, pirate DVDs and illicit software. All together now, sing the Barras anthem: "
Cheap fags, cheap fags "...It can get pretty frightening if you start asking questions.
Paddy's market is simply beyond desperate, and anyone wanting to "save it" wants to take the Oscar Marzoroli photos out of their specs and the cotton wool out of their nostrils. Be serious.
For providing clothes for the stoney broke, Asda, Primark and Lidl do a good job, or if you can't afford those prices there are plenty of charity shops.
Posted by: SunnyJhim, South of the River on 3:54pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Paddy's is a complete and utter shoitehole. Half the bangers on here seeking to preserve it as some sort of proletarian twos-up to the bourgeoise are insulting the very people in who's name they claim to speak. I'll bet FEW have ever been anywhere near it and NONE will have any idea how grim a place it is day-to-day. I'm five generations of Glasgow born and bred, with deep family ties to the Scottish Communist Party formed as result of the Unholy First World War. I know this City like a luver as the origianl Taggart theme used to say...and Paddy's represents NOTHING I want to see preserved about a poverty ridden past. It ain't a monument to struggle - it is poverty by it's very nature.
Still relocating it to the front of the City Chambers might not be a bad idea; Stephen and his chums can buy all the gifts they need for visiting dignitaries without having to leave the Square, which I don't think they do that often.
Paddy's is a complete and utter shoitehole. Half the bangers on here seeking to preserve it as some sort of proletarian twos-up to the bourgeoise are insulting the very people in who's name they claim to speak. I'll bet FEW have ever been anywhere near it and NONE will have any idea how grim a place it is day-to-day. I'm five generations of Glasgow born and bred, with deep family ties to the Scottish Communist Party formed as result of the Unholy First World War. I know this City like a luver as the origianl Taggart theme used to say...and Paddy's represents NOTHING I want to see preserved about a poverty ridden past. It ain't a monument to struggle - it is poverty by it's very nature.
Still relocating it to the front of the City Chambers might not be a bad idea; Stephen and his chums can buy all the gifts they need for visiting dignitaries without having to leave the Square, which I don't think they do that often.
Posted by: The X Factor, Glasgow on 4:16pm Fri 14 Mar 08
C'mon its not about the drugs its alla bout the bargain cds and dvds that are getting sold at a fair price instead of making music companies and diddy pop singers £millions
It is a bit of a coup tho.
C'mon its not about the drugs its alla bout the bargain cds and dvds that are getting sold at a fair price instead of making music companies and diddy pop singers £millions
It is a bit of a coup tho.
Posted by: Seymour Hope, Glasgow on 4:35pm Fri 14 Mar 08
The place is honkin' and make Glasgow look like a down market developing nation. It is unpleasant and if yuou go there thinking your going to meet jolly welcoming Glasgow folk who are full of the banter then you are going to be dissapointed it is jakey alley!
The place is honkin' and make Glasgow look like a down market developing nation. It is unpleasant and if yuou go there thinking your going to meet jolly welcoming Glasgow folk who are full of the banter then you are going to be dissapointed it is jakey alley!
Posted by: Old school, Ayrshire on 4:35pm Fri 14 Mar 08
I do not come from Glasgow but I frequently visit and while there usually take in Paddys.
This is something I have been doing getting on for 50 years and I must say there has been steady deterioration in the market over the years. The area was gradually eroded until it's present form. I must say I no longer find it a place worth visiting as the 'character' seems to be gone. The place now is frequented daily by loudmouthed yobs most under the influence of who knows what plus the frequent raids by HM. Customs and Police which I find quite alarming.
I think the erection of the High Court extension was the nail in the coffin for Paddy's. I dont think their Lordships liked the view from their back windows. Plus of course it is prime site land. On the other hand I think we have seen enough of GCC's attempts to upmarket other areas.
I do not come from Glasgow but I frequently visit and while there usually take in Paddys.
This is something I have been doing getting on for 50 years and I must say there has been steady deterioration in the market over the years. The area was gradually eroded until it's present form. I must say I no longer find it a place worth visiting as the 'character' seems to be gone. The place now is frequented daily by loudmouthed yobs most under the influence of who knows what plus the frequent raids by HM. Customs and Police which I find quite alarming.
I think the erection of the High Court extension was the nail in the coffin for Paddy's. I dont think their Lordships liked the view from their back windows. Plus of course it is prime site land. On the other hand I think we have seen enough of GCC's attempts to upmarket other areas.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 4:42pm Fri 14 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Seymour Hope[/bold] wrote:
The place is honkin' and make Glasgow look like a down market developing nation. It is unpleasant and if yuou go there thinking your going to meet jolly welcoming Glasgow folk who are full of the banter then you are going to be dissapointed it is jakey alley![/quote] Jolly welcoming Glasgow folk? What are you talking about. Where are they?
Glasgow is, on the whole, a pretty scary place to be. The city centre on a Friday/Saturday night is full of drunken jobs (both professional and unprofessional!) Making a pub a cafe/bar is not going to get rid of the drunken mess that ends up on the pavement every night. So if they are going to shut down Paddy's Market, why don't they shut down all those dodgy pubs they keep giving licences to as well.
Seymour Hope wrote:
The place is honkin' and make Glasgow look like a down market developing nation. It is unpleasant and if yuou go there thinking your going to meet jolly welcoming Glasgow folk who are full of the banter then you are going to be dissapointed it is jakey alley!
Jolly welcoming Glasgow folk? What are you talking about. Where are they?
Glasgow is, on the whole, a pretty scary place to be. The city centre on a Friday/Saturday night is full of drunken jobs (both professional and unprofessional!) Making a pub a cafe/bar is not going to get rid of the drunken mess that ends up on the pavement every night. So if they are going to shut down Paddy's Market, why don't they shut down all those dodgy pubs they keep giving licences to as well.
Posted by: Frank, Glasgow on 5:38pm Fri 14 Mar 08
The Labour council have been tolerant of these people for too long. Let the redevelopment begin to clear out the scum from this area and the others that frequent what should be a nice part of city.
The Labour council have been tolerant of these people for too long. Let the redevelopment begin to clear out the scum from this area and the others that frequent what should be a nice part of city.
Posted by: newman, glasgow on 5:47pm Fri 14 Mar 08
What about the barras, there is more fake DVD's and C.D.'s on sale there than Paddy's. More illegal cigarettes and tobacco and plenty of drugs. It is on a greater scale than Paddy's Sh****le. So I hope that dump and crime infested midden called the barras is next.
What about the barras, there is more fake DVD's and C.D.'s on sale there than Paddy's. More illegal cigarettes and tobacco and plenty of drugs. It is on a greater scale than Paddy's Sh****le. So I hope that dump and crime infested midden called the barras is next.
Posted by: John Clark, Glasgow on 6:00pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Do you need to be brain of Britain to realize that they are trying to create an illusion by closing the likes of this market.
They are hiding from the world the poverty that exists in Glasgow. It IS ethnic cleansing insofar as they don't want the poor in the town centre.
However, I have went through the lane several times. I don't grasp how some of them can be making money out of they are supposedly selling. I did ask myself - what are they REALLY selling.
BUT if they close the market where will they move to - to sell the drugs and so on?
How many doss houses are near the paddys market? And near the Sheriff Court?
Do you need to be brain of Britain to realize that they are trying to create an illusion by closing the likes of this market.
They are hiding from the world the poverty that exists in Glasgow. It IS ethnic cleansing insofar as they don't want the poor in the town centre.
However, I have went through the lane several times. I don't grasp how some of them can be making money out of they are supposedly selling. I did ask myself - what are they REALLY selling.
BUT if they close the market where will they move to - to sell the drugs and so on?
How many doss houses are near the paddys market? And near the Sheriff Court?
Posted by: Whoop-de_doo, Arizona on 6:08pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Id like to meet this Paddy guy face to face and ask why he lets so many criminals frequent his market..
Does he have an office near Parkhead?
Id like to meet this Paddy guy face to face and ask why he lets so many criminals frequent his market..
Does he have an office near Parkhead?
Posted by: jonny bond, glasgow on 6:12pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Well thats the future of paddys market it gets closed & redeveloped, by the councillors who give the land with planning permission to their favourite building contractor who is also a big labour supporter, cause there are too many druggies there. Right OK when are they going to close all the other parts of glasgow I could name a few all over the place that are rat infested drug holes like milton close to possil park sounds lovely till you see the folk hanging around and would never make a tourist attraction.
Well thats the future of paddys market it gets closed & redeveloped, by the councillors who give the land with planning permission to their favourite building contractor who is also a big labour supporter, cause there are too many druggies there. Right OK when are they going to close all the other parts of glasgow I could name a few all over the place that are rat infested drug holes like milton close to possil park sounds lovely till you see the folk hanging around and would never make a tourist attraction.
Posted by: goodster, London on 6:52pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Eh - Camden Market is a crime ridden midden as well.....populated by londons very own brand of junkie, vagrant and thief....bit like the Gallowgate really. A good scrub to it and it's occupants wouldn't go a miss.
Eh - Camden Market is a crime ridden midden as well.....populated by londons very own brand of junkie, vagrant and thief....bit like the Gallowgate really. A good scrub to it and it's occupants wouldn't go a miss.
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 7:23pm Fri 14 Mar 08
considering the druggies who infest the market come from the hostel round the corner why is the market being blamed.
are we to take it this clean up to improve the area also means the closure of the hostel.
another case of developers pulling the strings of gcc decision making.
this new multi cultural market with all the artists will not have any druggies.or is it just a better class of druggies which will use the market in future.
considering the druggies who infest the market come from the hostel round the corner why is the market being blamed.
are we to take it this clean up to improve the area also means the closure of the hostel.
another case of developers pulling the strings of gcc decision making.
this new multi cultural market with all the artists will not have any druggies.or is it just a better class of druggies which will use the market in future.
Posted by: exiled scot, Birmingham on 7:49pm Fri 14 Mar 08
What a shame, i bought many a nice outfit from the Briggait!!!
Any time i return for a visit i always call by "Paddy's" to soak up the Culture of Glasgow............ Don't want a Yuppie market
What a shame, i bought many a nice outfit from the Briggait!!!
Any time i return for a visit i always call by "Paddy's" to soak up the Culture of Glasgow............ Don't want a Yuppie market
Posted by: Milly, USA on 8:15pm Fri 14 Mar 08
As an Ex_pat . I used enjoy a dauner roon the Barra's and Paddy's market! In recent visits I'm inclined to avoid both places, though I'm also inclined to avoid Argle street also ..
Arts and Crafty my arse - it will be a midden just like Paddys market - Clean it up and get rid of the Drug dealers.
As an Ex_pat . I used enjoy a dauner roon the Barra's and Paddy's market! In recent visits I'm inclined to avoid both places, though I'm also inclined to avoid Argle street also ..
Arts and Crafty my arse - it will be a midden just like Paddys market - Clean it up and get rid of the Drug dealers.
Posted by: Agnes McNab, Canada on 9:06pm Fri 14 Mar 08
During late 1940's into early 1950's it was a blessing for our family to have Paddy's Market. At that time there were police raids but it didn't keep us from getting a good pair of wellies, we learned to run just as you did when the police came for the illegal bookie in the street. As for the Barras as that time most of the sellers were from England and always gave you a good deal for your money. They are happy memories for me.
During late 1940's into early 1950's it was a blessing for our family to have Paddy's Market. At that time there were police raids but it didn't keep us from getting a good pair of wellies, we learned to run just as you did when the police came for the illegal bookie in the street. As for the Barras as that time most of the sellers were from England and always gave you a good deal for your money. They are happy memories for me.
Posted by: Roger Ryan, London on 9:07pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Keep things in perspective, chaps. I know nothing about Paddys market, as u call it,
but it seems from what I can gather that it's hardly Moore Street ... but then Glasgow is just a football town while Dublin is the real world capital! Only joking, of course, but don't take yourself too seriously!
If you close down Paddys (does that warrant an aprostrophe?), any chance of Celtic moving to Croke Park ... it's Europe's third biggerst stadium?
Rory
Keep things in perspective, chaps. I know nothing about Paddys market, as u call it,
but it seems from what I can gather that it's hardly Moore Street ... but then Glasgow is just a football town while Dublin is the real world capital! Only joking, of course, but don't take yourself too seriously!
If you close down Paddys (does that warrant an aprostrophe?), any chance of Celtic moving to Croke Park ... it's Europe's third biggerst stadium?
Rory
Posted by: klq3112, glasgow on 10:56pm Fri 14 Mar 08
I would like to make reference my mother's family came from stockwell street(well mostly round saltmarket in which my grandmother worked there and also my uncle and aunt still do,they themselves say that the old briggate has gone not as much as the place but the people who worked there (the characters).I myself remember running about manky with a headless dolly ha!ha!And also a cafe called eric's or doc mollies?Eating Ribs and cabbage!Anyway enough nostalgia,I think it will be great to see the old briggate uplifted,but I know that I would still like to see my uncle and aunt still be there as it and always was there life.
I would like to make reference my mother's family came from stockwell street(well mostly round saltmarket in which my grandmother worked there and also my uncle and aunt still do,they themselves say that the old briggate has gone not as much as the place but the people who worked there (the characters).I myself remember running about manky with a headless dolly ha!ha!And also a cafe called eric's or doc mollies?Eating Ribs and cabbage!Anyway enough nostalgia,I think it will be great to see the old briggate uplifted,but I know that I would still like to see my uncle and aunt still be there as it and always was there life.
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 12:10am Sat 15 Mar 08
"It could be a good venue for young aspiring artists to take up space to sell their wares, with a cultural element of people from dif- ferent ethnic backgrounds."
In other words, Glaswegians can forget about trading there. More room for the Poles, Romanians etc not to mention Pakistanis, Indians, Iraqis and Iranians.
The REALLY thing is, in the 21st Century, there is STILL a need for 2nd hand goods!!!!!!!!!
I trade at Blochairn every Sunday, and make a decent living selling mainly 2nd hand electrical goods (ALL of which are thoroughly tested!!!).
The drug dealers should just be shot out of hand where they are caught.
As for the DVD and designer gear dealers,why dont the powers that be set a MAXIMUM price for DVDs, one for denims/jackets/dress
es/handbags etc????? Or the makers of these over-priced garbage lower the prices???
Lets be honest, they are mainly made in Tiawan, China, Cambodia etc with child slave labour and are very rarely any better quality than Tescos/Asda etc own label goods.
I have always said that people need protecting mainly from THEMSELVES!!!!
We live in a culture where people tell you what to wear, where to go, how to decorate your house, how to do your garden etc etc etc. The list is almost endless.
THINK FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE!!!!!!!
£300 ARMANI`S OR £4 TESCOS .......... ITS REALLY A NO BRAINER!!!
"It could be a good venue for young aspiring artists to take up space to sell their wares, with a cultural element of people from dif- ferent ethnic backgrounds."
In other words, Glaswegians can forget about trading there. More room for the Poles, Romanians etc not to mention Pakistanis, Indians, Iraqis and Iranians.
The REALLY thing is, in the 21st Century, there is STILL a need for 2nd hand goods!!!!!!!!!
I trade at Blochairn every Sunday, and make a decent living selling mainly 2nd hand electrical goods (ALL of which are thoroughly tested!!!).
The drug dealers should just be shot out of hand where they are caught.
As for the DVD and designer gear dealers,why dont the powers that be set a MAXIMUM price for DVDs, one for denims/jackets/dress
es/handbags etc????? Or the makers of these over-priced garbage lower the prices???
Lets be honest, they are mainly made in Tiawan, China, Cambodia etc with child slave labour and are very rarely any better quality than Tescos/Asda etc own label goods.
I have always said that people need protecting mainly from THEMSELVES!!!!
We live in a culture where people tell you what to wear, where to go, how to decorate your house, how to do your garden etc etc etc. The list is almost endless.
THINK FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE!!!!!!!
£300 ARMANI`S OR £4 TESCOS .......... ITS REALLY A NO BRAINER!!!
Posted by: gordon marr, Glasgow on 7:05am Sat 15 Mar 08
I was born just across the river from Paddy's market in Florence Street and even in the early 50's it was a no go zone for our poor family, the present day situation is just a continuation of the poor standards that have always existed there and it should go.
I was born just across the river from Paddy's market in Florence Street and even in the early 50's it was a no go zone for our poor family, the present day situation is just a continuation of the poor standards that have always existed there and it should go.
Posted by: kelly, glasgow on 2:52pm Sat 15 Mar 08
instead of closing the market why don't the council just get rid of the junkies and clean up the area instead off letting the traders lose their pitches and their livihoods. i am from london originally and camden market is crap!!!
instead of closing the market why don't the council just get rid of the junkies and clean up the area instead off letting the traders lose their pitches and their livihoods. i am from london originally and camden market is crap!!!
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 7:58pm Sat 15 Mar 08
Writing as someone whom would love a space to practice and develop an artisan form. The sheer cost gives a stone wall guarantee of that never arising. For those that claim places exist. I reply, they are fake, proven. The person(s) who think that Paddys Market is currently distant from Camden, should visit the quash and poverty that is Camden. Good luck to the new, it is with no doubt required.
Writing as someone whom would love a space to practice and develop an artisan form. The sheer cost gives a stone wall guarantee of that never arising. For those that claim places exist. I reply, they are fake, proven. The person(s) who think that Paddys Market is currently distant from Camden, should visit the quash and poverty that is Camden. Good luck to the new, it is with no doubt required.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:21pm Sat 15 Mar 08
[quote][bold]kelly[/bold] wrote:
instead of closing the market why don't the council just get rid of the junkies and clean up the area instead off letting the traders lose their pitches and their livihoods. i am from london originally and camden market is crap!!! [/quote]
you know what the council is really up to - the regeneration of the East end pre - 2014!
Paddies Market - The Barras are not worth the effort to clean up, and sort out - so lets close it down!
Easy option, and hey - how long will it be before the land goes on the market for flats for sale at a bl**dy fortune ?
These councillors are scheming buggers - however bad the market is - was maybe the councillors only want to highlight their spin, propaganda and positive news stories - and if the market makes them look bad - easy option - close it down!
kelly wrote:
instead of closing the market why don't the council just get rid of the junkies and clean up the area instead off letting the traders lose their pitches and their livihoods. i am from london originally and camden market is crap!!!
you know what the council is really up to - the regeneration of the East end pre - 2014!
Paddies Market - The Barras are not worth the effort to clean up, and sort out - so lets close it down!
Easy option, and hey - how long will it be before the land goes on the market for flats for sale at a bl**dy fortune ?
These councillors are scheming buggers - however bad the market is - was maybe the councillors only want to highlight their spin, propaganda and positive news stories - and if the market makes them look bad - easy option - close it down!
Posted by: silvixen, Glasgow on 10:27pm Sat 15 Mar 08
Paddys kept more than a few families from being totally destitute in the "good old days" an as many have said on here thise days are gone. I wonder if they really have or is it the illusion of Glasgow being prosperous that our glorious leaders want. There are still pockets in Glasgow where poverty is rife.
Blochairn is the bees knees as far as Im concerned. The Barras is played out and yeah right on prime land give it a couple of more years and the city fathers will slap a condemned notice on it citing illegal dvds cds and ciggies as the reason. If these are reasons why arent they tackling those instead of the markets. Glasgows not the dear green place anymore as whenever a bit of green is seen they slap expensive housing up that most glaswegians will only ever walk past (maybe even on the way to paddys even)
Paddys kept more than a few families from being totally destitute in the "good old days" an as many have said on here thise days are gone. I wonder if they really have or is it the illusion of Glasgow being prosperous that our glorious leaders want. There are still pockets in Glasgow where poverty is rife.
Blochairn is the bees knees as far as Im concerned. The Barras is played out and yeah right on prime land give it a couple of more years and the city fathers will slap a condemned notice on it citing illegal dvds cds and ciggies as the reason. If these are reasons why arent they tackling those instead of the markets. Glasgows not the dear green place anymore as whenever a bit of green is seen they slap expensive housing up that most glaswegians will only ever walk past (maybe even on the way to paddys even)
Posted by: joanb, Oxfordshire on 10:45pm Sat 15 Mar 08
[quote][bold]exiled scot[/bold] wrote:
What a shame, i bought many a nice outfit from the Briggait!!! Any time i return for a visit i always call by "Paddy's" to soak up the Culture of Glasgow............ Don't want a Yuppie market[/quote] (I feel the same ) never miss going to visit
Paddy's Market and The Barras[quote]quote[/quote]
exiled scot wrote:
What a shame, i bought many a nice outfit from the Briggait!!! Any time i return for a visit i always call by "Paddy's" to soak up the Culture of Glasgow............ Don't want a Yuppie market
(I feel the same ) never miss going to visit
Paddy's Market and The Barras
quote
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 8:11am Sun 16 Mar 08
Inspired by this blog I took a walk through Paddy's on Friday. Teeming with junkies, not surprising given the methodist doss house next door (i've worked with homeless people who'd rather walk the street than take a bed in there - hmm, maybe that's the real problem). An awful lot of the rose tinted view here. You'd still keep your hand firmly on your wallet.
Inspired by this blog I took a walk through Paddy's on Friday. Teeming with junkies, not surprising given the methodist doss house next door (i've worked with homeless people who'd rather walk the street than take a bed in there - hmm, maybe that's the real problem). An awful lot of the rose tinted view here. You'd still keep your hand firmly on your wallet.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 9:44pm Sun 16 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
Inspired by this blog I took a walk through Paddy's on Friday. Teeming with junkies, not surprising given the methodist doss house next door (i've worked with homeless people who'd rather walk the street than take a bed in there - hmm, maybe that's the real problem). An awful lot of the rose tinted view here. You'd still keep your hand firmly on your wallet.[/quote]
The problem of homelessness and junkies is nothing new for parts of Glasgow - however, the way in which the council choose to address the issue is something else!
Try making some of the Councillors swap places with the homeless folk of our city ( whatever their reasons!) and watch them squirm!
Maybe its a case of brushing the problem under the carpet, and not addressing the real problems that the Barras / Paddys Market have ended up with.
I'd like to know the stance the Police take with the issue too: -
Is it too much for them to have their plain clothed officers reguarly catching out the dodgy traders, wheelers and dealers ?
Whatever the reason for this decision, you can bet its not for the benefit of the less well off, and those in the trap of homelessness, drug addictions, or the revolving door of crime!
Poor show Glasgow city council!
Pete wrote:
Inspired by this blog I took a walk through Paddy's on Friday. Teeming with junkies, not surprising given the methodist doss house next door (i've worked with homeless people who'd rather walk the street than take a bed in there - hmm, maybe that's the real problem). An awful lot of the rose tinted view here. You'd still keep your hand firmly on your wallet.
The problem of homelessness and junkies is nothing new for parts of Glasgow - however, the way in which the council choose to address the issue is something else!
Try making some of the Councillors swap places with the homeless folk of our city ( whatever their reasons!) and watch them squirm!
Maybe its a case of brushing the problem under the carpet, and not addressing the real problems that the Barras / Paddys Market have ended up with.
I'd like to know the stance the Police take with the issue too: -
Is it too much for them to have their plain clothed officers reguarly catching out the dodgy traders, wheelers and dealers ?
Whatever the reason for this decision, you can bet its not for the benefit of the less well off, and those in the trap of homelessness, drug addictions, or the revolving door of crime!
Poor show Glasgow city council!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 9:14am Mon 17 Mar 08
I used to Live At 17 Bridgegate in 60s.My mum worked in Alices restaurant downstairs on the bridgegate.My dad worked at tate & lyle.They worked hard and still had nothing ,But we were Happy,Young folk now have everything yet so unhappy,
I used to Live At 17 Bridgegate in 60s.My mum worked in Alices restaurant downstairs on the bridgegate.My dad worked at tate & lyle.They worked hard and still had nothing ,But we were Happy,Young folk now have everything yet so unhappy,
Posted by: klq3112, glasgow on 1:30pm Mon 17 Mar 08
My mother was born at 22 briggate in 1949,acrosss from paddy's so she been in paddy's since 3 years old,her sister Cathy Welsh is still there she herself also stated that the briggate is finished and she would like the place to be mornised and updated.
My mother was born at 22 briggate in 1949,acrosss from paddy's so she been in paddy's since 3 years old,her sister Cathy Welsh is still there she herself also stated that the briggate is finished and she would like the place to be mornised and updated.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 2:19pm Mon 17 Mar 08
Exactly - the problem with todays up and coming generations is they see all the value in material goods & far less in the immaterial.
The things that money cannot pay for mean so much more in life: good health, inner security, self esteem, peace of mind, and feeling able to get by without the need for financial gratification.
People are more prepared to sacrifice their imagination, creativity and inner feelings for the immediate buzz they get from spending money.
However the recession looming in America, cautious investments in shares & stock market, and potential downturn in the high street is something to take seriously.
Even more reason for people to: [italic]"Think Globally, and Act Locally!"[/italic]
Exactly - the problem with todays up and coming generations is they see all the value in material goods & far less in the immaterial.
The things that money cannot pay for mean so much more in life: good health, inner security, self esteem, peace of mind, and feeling able to get by without the need for financial gratification.
People are more prepared to sacrifice their imagination, creativity and inner feelings for the immediate buzz they get from spending money.
However the recession looming in America, cautious investments in shares & stock market, and potential downturn in the high street is something to take seriously.
Even more reason for people to:
"Think Globally, and Act Locally!"
Posted by: fredo, paisley on 5:56pm Mon 17 Mar 08
turn it into a minnie damrac and move into the 21,st century maybe you,ll see purcell and all the perverts from the council sneaking about it putting it on there expenses you couldnae make that corrupt mob up
turn it into a minnie damrac and move into the 21,st century maybe you,ll see purcell and all the perverts from the council sneaking about it putting it on there expenses you couldnae make that corrupt mob up
Posted by: velocetteman, Cumbernauld on 9:26pm Mon 17 Mar 08
Whatever the present run-down and unsavoury state of the market, I am surprised that no-one has commented on the excellent recycling service performed by the traders there, the vast majority of whom are, in my experience, pleasant and decent folk. This recycling is a useful and environmentally friendly service for poorer folk that should be encouraged by the dunderheads in GCC, not replaced by some useless, unwanted arty-farty nonsense.
The application of a wee bit of imagination, money and policing by the council could make this area a relevant, attractive and useful corner of Glasgow, not the neglected midden it sadly is at the moment.
Whatever the present run-down and unsavoury state of the market, I am surprised that no-one has commented on the excellent recycling service performed by the traders there, the vast majority of whom are, in my experience, pleasant and decent folk. This recycling is a useful and environmentally friendly service for poorer folk that should be encouraged by the dunderheads in GCC, not replaced by some useless, unwanted arty-farty nonsense.
The application of a wee bit of imagination, money and policing by the council could make this area a relevant, attractive and useful corner of Glasgow, not the neglected midden it sadly is at the moment.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 9:35pm Mon 17 Mar 08
Velocetteman,
Love your use of the term,
[quote] dunderheads in GCC[/quote]
Haven't heard that one in a while! LOL ;-)
How many derogatory words can we use to slate GCC - seems that the only person who has a good word to say about them is our loyal Frank!
God bless his cotton socks!
Velocetteman,
Love your use of the term,
dunderheads in GCC
Haven't heard that one in a while! LOL ;-)
How many derogatory words can we use to slate GCC - seems that the only person who has a good word to say about them is our loyal Frank!
God bless his cotton socks!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 10:30am Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]klq3112[/bold] wrote:
My mother was born at 22 briggate in 1949,acrosss from paddy's so she been in paddy's since 3 years old,her sister Cathy Welsh is still there she herself also stated that the briggate is finished and she would like the place to be mornised and updated.[/quote] Think i know you!We are the Reynolds family ,My mum was Bridie dad wullie,Big sis Ann ,ans sis margaret ,The twins and wee alan,and Brian the eldest son.Ann used to hang around with Maureen fagan and rosina,,They 2 have been in jersey for decades now.take care.Oh and my mum died in 2005.
klq3112 wrote:
My mother was born at 22 briggate in 1949,acrosss from paddy's so she been in paddy's since 3 years old,her sister Cathy Welsh is still there she herself also stated that the briggate is finished and she would like the place to be mornised and updated.
Think i know you!We are the Reynolds family ,My mum was Bridie dad wullie,Big sis Ann ,ans sis margaret ,The twins and wee alan,and Brian the eldest son.Ann used to hang around with Maureen fagan and rosina,,They 2 have been in jersey for decades now.take care.Oh and my mum died in 2005.
Posted by: g13, glasgow on 8:30pm Thu 23 Oct 08
[quote][bold]velocetteman[/bold] wrote:
Whatever the present run-down and unsavoury state of the market, I am surprised that no-one has commented on the excellent recycling service performed by the traders there, the vast majority of whom are, in my experience, pleasant and decent folk. This recycling is a useful and environmentally friendly service for poorer folk that should be encouraged by the dunderheads in GCC, not replaced by some useless, unwanted arty-farty nonsense. The application of a wee bit of imagination, money and policing by the council could make this area a relevant, attractive and useful corner of Glasgow, not the neglected midden it sadly is at the moment. [/quote] Velocetteman is so right. Does anyone know any actual amounts of textiles known to pass through the market? Must be really substantial. This would be an undeniable argument to help keep the place open.
Dont lump all GCC together. Not all the same by any means. Some are trying hard to do the right thing here.
velocetteman wrote:
Whatever the present run-down and unsavoury state of the market, I am surprised that no-one has commented on the excellent recycling service performed by the traders there, the vast majority of whom are, in my experience, pleasant and decent folk. This recycling is a useful and environmentally friendly service for poorer folk that should be encouraged by the dunderheads in GCC, not replaced by some useless, unwanted arty-farty nonsense. The application of a wee bit of imagination, money and policing by the council could make this area a relevant, attractive and useful corner of Glasgow, not the neglected midden it sadly is at the moment.
Velocetteman is so right. Does anyone know any actual amounts of textiles known to pass through the market? Must be really substantial. This would be an undeniable argument to help keep the place open.
Dont lump all GCC together. Not all the same by any means. Some are trying hard to do the right thing here.
Posted by: misterglasgow, Glasgow on 11:48am Sat 7 Mar 09
Glasgow City Councillors are committing an act of Racism ...by discriminating against the honest stallholders of PADDYS Market ... The councillors have stated that they want to REPLACE current stallholder with traders selling other ETHNIC wares .....are the people of IRISH decent not ETHNIC enough
ADOLF HITLER adopted this form of eradication ...The council are committing a gross act of RACISM and ETHNIC cleansing .....
Let it be noted that ..... I Mister Glasgow , have been investigating the council members who are instrumental in the Paddys Market cleansing ... and have been enlightened to the theory that the councilors concerned may be secretly gay or undeclared to the public 'Gay' ..... why not declare ? .... Steven Purcell eventually declared.... but what of some of his newly appointed members of the Council executive committee ?[bold]bold[/bold] ..... Is there a 'Secret Gay Mafia' lurking in our cities council . Any group who show favouritism to each other above other people is not in the best public interest .be it Nazis or or any group who close ranks in order to strengthen there own ...
Investigations are continuing
Glasgow City Councillors are committing an act of Racism ...by discriminating against the honest stallholders of PADDYS Market ... The councillors have stated that they want to REPLACE current stallholder with traders selling other ETHNIC wares .....are the people of IRISH decent not ETHNIC enough
ADOLF HITLER adopted this form of eradication ...The council are committing a gross act of RACISM and ETHNIC cleansing .....
Let it be noted that ..... I Mister Glasgow , have been investigating the council members who are instrumental in the Paddys Market cleansing ... and have been enlightened to the theory that the councilors concerned may be secretly gay or undeclared to the public 'Gay' ..... why not declare ? .... Steven Purcell eventually declared.... but what of some of his newly appointed members of the Council executive committee ? ..... Is there a 'Secret Gay Mafia' lurking in our cities council . Any group who show favouritism to each other above other people is not in the best public interest .be it Nazis or or any group who close ranks in order to strengthen there own ...
Investigations are continuing
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