Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:33am Mon 17 Mar 08
They should compensate Glasgow for this inconvenience.
They should compensate Glasgow for this inconvenience.
Posted by: DMac, Glasgow on 11:46am Mon 17 Mar 08
I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.
I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:21pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote:
I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.[/quote] Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.
DMac wrote:
I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.
Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 1:01pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote: I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.[/quote] Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.[/quote] You'd think this bridge had been opened for years, the way seme people are going on about the 'traffic mayhem' it's closure is causing... I agree it's caused some inconvenience, but please folks, what did you do a year ago ?
The Missing City wrote:
DMac wrote: I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.
Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.
You'd think this bridge had been opened for years, the way seme people are going on about the 'traffic mayhem' it's closure is causing... I agree it's caused some inconvenience, but please folks, what did you do a year ago ?
Posted by: Anabelle, glasgow on 1:06pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
They should compensate Glasgow for this inconvenience.[/quote] You should compensate us for having to read your imbecilic comments.
jim wrote:
They should compensate Glasgow for this inconvenience.
You should compensate us for having to read your imbecilic comments.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 1:11pm Mon 17 Mar 08
This is more an observation: what has engineering lost in its practices over the last 200 years that its got to the point where a newly built bridge is already damged in less than a year after completion? What did the engineers of old know and understand what 21st Century engineers and architects do not?
This is more an observation: what has engineering lost in its practices over the last 200 years that its got to the point where a newly built bridge is already damged in less than a year after completion? What did the engineers of old know and understand what 21st Century engineers and architects do not?
Posted by: Scott, Airdrie on 1:45pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Big Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote: I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.[/quote] Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.[/quote] You'd think this bridge had been opened for years, the way seme people are going on about the 'traffic mayhem' it's closure is causing... I agree it's caused some inconvenience, but please folks, what did you do a year ago ?[/quote] Presumably, they didn't have to contend with (for example) BBC staff who were at Queen Margaret Drive before they moved. The bridge was intended to offset the additional traffic caused by Pacific Quay, so obviously if this traffic now has to find another way across the river it severely affects the area around Paisley Road West.
Big Al wrote:
The Missing City wrote: DMac wrote: I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.
Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.
You'd think this bridge had been opened for years, the way seme people are going on about the 'traffic mayhem' it's closure is causing... I agree it's caused some inconvenience, but please folks, what did you do a year ago ?
Presumably, they didn't have to contend with (for example) BBC staff who were at Queen Margaret Drive before they moved. The bridge was intended to offset the additional traffic caused by Pacific Quay, so obviously if this traffic now has to find another way across the river it severely affects the area around Paisley Road West.
Posted by: Jaym, Glasgow on 2:13pm Mon 17 Mar 08
Why has it only now "taken a major step forward"? What have they been doing for the past 2 months? (other than setting up their site huts and using the bridge to park their company cars on).
I have to question whether it's true that the contractor is footing the cost for all this. Usually when the company is made to pay things get turned around quickly.
I would like to know if the Council ARE ACTUALLY paying for this work.
Why has it only now "taken a major step forward"? What have they been doing for the past 2 months? (other than setting up their site huts and using the bridge to park their company cars on).
I have to question whether it's true that the contractor is footing the cost for all this. Usually when the company is made to pay things get turned around quickly.
I would like to know if the Council ARE ACTUALLY paying for this work.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:41pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Big Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote: I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.[/quote] Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.[/quote] You'd think this bridge had been opened for years, the way seme people are going on about the 'traffic mayhem' it's closure is causing... I agree it's caused some inconvenience, but please folks, what did you do a year ago ?[/quote] [italic]Are you inferring that the CLYDE ARC may have been a £20M supererogative bit of eye-candy?[/italic]
Big Al wrote:
The Missing City wrote: DMac wrote: I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.
Its mental to think that nobody thought like that before the bridge was opened in the first place, now it seems the road is clogged up because of this bridge being closed, I wonder if the traffic was this bad before the bridge was opened or if its the fact that people can't be bothered with the tailbacks on the Kingston Bridge to simply get to the other side of the river.
You'd think this bridge had been opened for years, the way seme people are going on about the 'traffic mayhem' it's closure is causing... I agree it's caused some inconvenience, but please folks, what did you do a year ago ?
Are you inferring that the CLYDE ARC may have been a £20M supererogative bit of eye-candy? Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 3:19pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]DMac[/bold] wrote:
I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.[/quote]
[bold]DMac[/bold]
Despite agreeing what you are saying to a point, the way in which people became dependant on the bridge so quickly surprises me.
Yes - it may of eased some of the congestion on the Kingston Bridge, but - it was a bridge of convenience for the staff of the BBC & STV Studio's as far as I am aware.
Was it not the case that the BBC did not want to re-locate unless the bridge was built ? ?
It is also ironic that so much traffic can cross the Clyde on a daily basis - when the river is seriously under-utilised.
Whatever the arguements, or criticisms are - the point is that council contracts, sub-contracts are rushed & maybe not put out to tender widely enough ?
And the tradesmen who work under them would appear are not skilled enough to finish the job.
So - by all means kick the butts of G.C.C. but - the workmanship of so many new builds accross the city has been questionable in recent months - years.
This farce is no better than the disaster of the huge waste of money the Glasgow Tower has turned out to be!
DMac wrote:
I agree. Paisley Road West has been particularly badly affected by the closure of the bridge. The worst seems to be on friday afternoons, where a lot of workers finish early. Traffic has been taking around 25 minutes to get from Cessnock subway station to Paisley Road Toll. It normally takes around 2 minutes.
DMac
Despite agreeing what you are saying to a point, the way in which people became dependant on the bridge so quickly surprises me.
Yes - it may of eased some of the congestion on the Kingston Bridge, but - it was a bridge of convenience for the staff of the BBC & STV Studio's as far as I am aware.
Was it not the case that the BBC did not want to re-locate unless the bridge was built ? ?
It is also ironic that so much traffic can cross the Clyde on a daily basis - when the river is seriously under-utilised.
Whatever the arguements, or criticisms are - the point is that council contracts, sub-contracts are rushed & maybe not put out to tender widely enough ?
And the tradesmen who work under them would appear are not skilled enough to finish the job.
So - by all means kick the butts of G.C.C. but - the workmanship of so many new builds accross the city has been questionable in recent months - years.
This farce is no better than the disaster of the huge waste of money the Glasgow Tower has turned out to be!
Posted by: Jaym, Glasgow on 4:30pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote] Despite agreeing what you are saying to a point, the way in which people became dependant on the bridge so quickly surprises me.[/quote]
PeoplePower. - the reason the bridge became so popular so quickly was because it has been badly needed for years. IF you are going from Govan to Finnieston, you either crawl through the tunnel before getting a parking space on the Expressway, or you go along Paisley Road, onto Clyde Place, over the bridge and then along the broomielaw (rush hour this can take 15 -20 minutes).
It's not for the sole use of the BBC or STV's convenience, it's been needed for years. It just so happened that their relocation to the southside was the driving force.
Despite agreeing what you are saying to a point, the way in which people became dependant on the bridge so quickly surprises me.
PeoplePower. - the reason the bridge became so popular so quickly was because it has been badly needed for years. IF you are going from Govan to Finnieston, you either crawl through the tunnel before getting a parking space on the Expressway, or you go along Paisley Road, onto Clyde Place, over the bridge and then along the broomielaw (rush hour this can take 15 -20 minutes).
It's not for the sole use of the BBC or STV's convenience, it's been needed for years. It just so happened that their relocation to the southside was the driving force.
Posted by: J123, Aberdeen/Glasgow on 5:40pm Mon 17 Mar 08
I just like looking at it! But come July when I'm back living in the city I'll probably say something different!
I just like looking at it! But come July when I'm back living in the city I'll probably say something different!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:49pm Mon 17 Mar 08
Fair enough, Jaym,
But, I still think that the way in which the "Clyde Arc" - Squinty Bridge became so widely used & subsequently disfunctional is farcical.
Also - the design of the Squinty Bridge is terrible from a pedestrians - cyclists point of view!
Having to dismount, come up the stairs onto the bridge and back down the other side - instead of being able to ride, walk, jog or run underneath the bridge is a serious design flaw!
The real investment needs to be on the river itself, i.e. on a hovercraft and pontoons, piers and riverside cafes / restaurants - bars!
(N.B. - NOT CASINO's!)
The problem has been that the way in which the regeneration of the river has been done in all the wrong order.
Harbourside flats built - with no link up to the local ameneties till months, if not a year after their investment & habiting.
Architectural eyesores / "Glass houses" - The BBC & STV studio's built along the Clyde with the problems of the windows taking the brunt of the weather. ( like the Buchanan Street idea - keeping the glass clean is a logistic nightmare!)
And bridges built accross the Clyde ( Bells Bridge & additional bridge accross from the "Crown Plaza" ( formerly the Moat House!) Hotel. The implications being the difficulties of dredging the Clyde to allow for various boats to sale further in to the city.
The City Council, and those who make the final decisions never seem to think about the short term pain, for long term gain scenrario!
As if it did - maybe we'd see a more joined up approach, better investment in all areas, and more forethought into the problems that could arise!
Fair enough, Jaym,
But, I still think that the way in which the "Clyde Arc" - Squinty Bridge became so widely used & subsequently disfunctional is farcical.
Also - the design of the Squinty Bridge is terrible from a pedestrians - cyclists point of view!
Having to dismount, come up the stairs onto the bridge and back down the other side - instead of being able to ride, walk, jog or run underneath the bridge is a serious design flaw!
The real investment needs to be on the river itself, i.e. on a hovercraft and pontoons, piers and riverside cafes / restaurants - bars!
(N.B. - NOT CASINO's!)
The problem has been that the way in which the regeneration of the river has been done in all the wrong order.
Harbourside flats built - with no link up to the local ameneties till months, if not a year after their investment & habiting.
Architectural eyesores / "Glass houses" - The BBC & STV studio's built along the Clyde with the problems of the windows taking the brunt of the weather. ( like the Buchanan Street idea - keeping the glass clean is a logistic nightmare!)
And bridges built accross the Clyde ( Bells Bridge & additional bridge accross from the "Crown Plaza" ( formerly the Moat House!) Hotel. The implications being the difficulties of dredging the Clyde to allow for various boats to sale further in to the city.
The City Council, and those who make the final decisions never seem to think about the short term pain, for long term gain scenrario!
As if it did - maybe we'd see a more joined up approach, better investment in all areas, and more forethought into the problems that could arise!
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 8:35pm Mon 17 Mar 08
Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG!
Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG!
Posted by: Stu, South Side Glasgow on 8:50pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew Stephen[/bold] wrote:
Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! [/quote] Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! BANG......
Andrew Stephen wrote:
Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG!
Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! BANG......
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 9:27pm Mon 17 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Stu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew Stephen[/bold] wrote: Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! [/quote] Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! BANG......[/quote] Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! BANG..... Wallop!
Stu wrote:
Andrew Stephen wrote: Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG!
Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! BANG......
Squinty-winty, shoogly-shakey - TWANG! BANG..... Wallop!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:02am Tue 18 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Anabelle[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: They should compensate Glasgow for this inconvenience.[/quote] You should compensate us for having to read your imbecilic comments.[/quote] What you saying UGLY.You obviously work for council.Whats wrong couldnt you get a descent job.
Anabelle wrote:
jim wrote: They should compensate Glasgow for this inconvenience.
You should compensate us for having to read your imbecilic comments.
What you saying UGLY.You obviously work for council.Whats wrong couldnt you get a descent job.
Posted by: belcher, parkbench 36 on 12:39pm Tue 18 Mar 08
Will the support frame dubbed the
crook'd crutch by the locals be
getting nominated for a design award?
ha ha ha bop.
Will the support frame dubbed the
crook'd crutch by the locals be
getting nominated for a design award?
ha ha ha bop.
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