Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:41am Tue 18 Mar 08
Anything which improves this area would be most welcome, but surely £277,000 is a ludicrously small sum for such a large chunk of land adjacent to a main road, and not far from Glasgow city centre.
[italic]What about buy-back guarantees for the council should the current plan fail?[/italic]
Anything which improves this area would be most welcome, but surely £277,000 is a ludicrously small sum for such a large chunk of land adjacent to a main road, and not far from Glasgow city centre.
What about buy-back guarantees for the council should the current plan fail? Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 12:22pm Tue 18 Mar 08
Sydney, hopefully the Council will see the "public good" argument and let the site go for this modest sum - after all it's not going to some rapacious developer for bog-standard (but luxury and exclusive (aren't they all)) apartments. GNRA get a lot of their cash from GCC anyway, it's really the right hand paying the left hand.
Sydney, hopefully the Council will see the "public good" argument and let the site go for this modest sum - after all it's not going to some rapacious developer for bog-standard (but luxury and exclusive (aren't they all)) apartments. GNRA get a lot of their cash from GCC anyway, it's really the right hand paying the left hand.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:54pm Tue 18 Mar 08
The old Blindcraft factory was one massive structure, taller than anything else on the street but I'm sure that the blindcraft building has been demolished since 1984/85 after a massive blaze.
For those people who don't venture into this part of Glasgow, it urgently requires attention to bring it up to a standard that all people are able to use it. Saracen Street is a desertt island in a sense as Keppochhill Road and Hawthron Street are just roads with no buildings, Springburn Road is dilapidated with very little buildings and the same could be said for large parts of Maryhill Road and Garscube Road which are all around the perimeter of Possilpark.
The whole of Inner North Glasgow has been left this way for many years, who knows what this clearance was meant to achieve or what benefit this would bring to people in this area when the area was cleared in the 70's, but obviously it was wrong - the sooner its sorted, the better.
The old Blindcraft factory was one massive structure, taller than anything else on the street but I'm sure that the blindcraft building has been demolished since 1984/85 after a massive blaze.
For those people who don't venture into this part of Glasgow, it urgently requires attention to bring it up to a standard that all people are able to use it. Saracen Street is a desertt island in a sense as Keppochhill Road and Hawthron Street are just roads with no buildings, Springburn Road is dilapidated with very little buildings and the same could be said for large parts of Maryhill Road and Garscube Road which are all around the perimeter of Possilpark.
The whole of Inner North Glasgow has been left this way for many years, who knows what this clearance was meant to achieve or what benefit this would bring to people in this area when the area was cleared in the 70's, but obviously it was wrong - the sooner its sorted, the better.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 2:55pm Tue 18 Mar 08
Hear hear, TMC. To many wounds still gaping.
Hear hear, TMC. To many wounds still gaping.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 3:26pm Tue 18 Mar 08
"To many"... oh dear...
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:09pm Tue 18 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
"To many"... oh dear...[/quote] I know what you're saying Brad, too many wounds, too many zombies, too bloody much eyesores and to top it off, there's simply too many psycho's in government - many of which lived in an era when people were sh1t scared to say "BOO" to a politician.
Co-incidentally, I met up with the director of the now defunct North Glasgow Social Inclusion Partnership, back in 2004 - he admitted that the place was dire, but with lack of investment, there was very little anybody could do - I think that meant that his job was easy money.
Its a council site, so at the end of the day, you would thought that the council after 25 years [bold](and not 15 as stated)[/bold] would have done something here (and I'm not talking about turning it into a park or some tacky industrial units of the type we see in the middle of Govan or Dalmarnock Road) so it just goes to show what the council thinks of deprived areas, they are a contributor, they could have developed this site ages ago and generarted money from it, but they don't give a monkey's.
[bold]Frank, what is your angle on this?[/bold]
Brad wrote:
"To many"... oh dear...
I know what you're saying Brad, too many wounds, too many zombies, too bloody much eyesores and to top it off, there's simply too many psycho's in government - many of which lived in an era when people were sh1t scared to say "BOO" to a politician.
Co-incidentally, I met up with the director of the now defunct North Glasgow Social Inclusion Partnership, back in 2004 - he admitted that the place was dire, but with lack of investment, there was very little anybody could do - I think that meant that his job was easy money.
Its a council site, so at the end of the day, you would thought that the council after 25 years
(and not 15 as stated) would have done something here (and I'm not talking about turning it into a park or some tacky industrial units of the type we see in the middle of Govan or Dalmarnock Road) so it just goes to show what the council thinks of deprived areas, they are a contributor, they could have developed this site ages ago and generarted money from it, but they don't give a monkey's.
Frank, what is your angle on this? Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:17pm Tue 18 Mar 08
Furthermnore, over the hill from Possil is one giant stretch of waste ground, masses of open space and derelict sites which used to house factories. This land stretches from townhead up to Hawthorn Street (which is quite a distance and a huge land mass.
The solution will be to fill it up with housing schemes like everyhwere else, this will achieve nothing as housing alone will not bring economic benefits to the people of that area or North Glasgow as a whole.
The joys of being loyal to a party that screwed your area ;-)
Furthermnore, over the hill from Possil is one giant stretch of waste ground, masses of open space and derelict sites which used to house factories. This land stretches from townhead up to Hawthorn Street (which is quite a distance and a huge land mass.
The solution will be to fill it up with housing schemes like everyhwere else, this will achieve nothing as housing alone will not bring economic benefits to the people of that area or North Glasgow as a whole.
The joys of being loyal to a party that screwed your area ;-)
Posted by: Harry Shanks, Rutherglen on 7:19pm Tue 18 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
Anything which improves this area would be most welcome, but surely £277,000 is a ludicrously small sum for such a large chunk of land adjacent to a main road, and not far from Glasgow city centre. [italic]What about buy-back guarantees for the council should the current plan fail?[/italic] [/quote] What about just leaving it as it is Sydney?
GCC are lucky to get £277K for land in this area - I wouldn't pay 277p
It's not the [bold]area[/bold] that needs renovated - it's the [bold]residents[/bold]
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Anything which improves this area would be most welcome, but surely £277,000 is a ludicrously small sum for such a large chunk of land adjacent to a main road, and not far from Glasgow city centre. What about buy-back guarantees for the council should the current plan fail?
What about just leaving it as it is Sydney?
GCC are lucky to get £277K for land in this area - I wouldn't pay 277p
It's not the
area that needs renovated - it's the
residents Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 9:14am Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Harry Shanks[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote: Anything which improves this area would be most welcome, but surely £277,000 is a ludicrously small sum for such a large chunk of land adjacent to a main road, and not far from Glasgow city centre. [italic]What about buy-back guarantees for the council should the current plan fail?[/italic] [/quote] What about just leaving it as it is Sydney? GCC are lucky to get £277K for land in this area - I wouldn't pay 277p It's not the [bold]area[/bold] that needs renovated - it's the [bold]residents[/bold] [/quote] Hmm, the opinuion of someone who probably doesn't go near the area very often
Well Harry, the area is coming up and not all the people are bad, but if you live in a squalid dump of an area or this is what you're born into, the picture it paints in your head is a bleak one.
Ignorance is bliss...... enjoy!
Harry Shanks wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote: Anything which improves this area would be most welcome, but surely £277,000 is a ludicrously small sum for such a large chunk of land adjacent to a main road, and not far from Glasgow city centre. What about buy-back guarantees for the council should the current plan fail?
What about just leaving it as it is Sydney? GCC are lucky to get £277K for land in this area - I wouldn't pay 277p It's not the area that needs renovated - it's the residents
Hmm, the opinuion of someone who probably doesn't go near the area very often
Well Harry, the area is coming up and not all the people are bad, but if you live in a squalid dump of an area or this is what you're born into, the picture it paints in your head is a bleak one.
Ignorance is bliss...... enjoy!
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 7:27pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote: "To many"... oh dear...[/quote] I know what you're saying Brad, too many wounds, too many zombies, too bloody much eyesores and to top it off, there's simply too many psycho's in government - many of which lived in an era when people were sh1t scared to say "BOO" to a politician. Co-incidentally, I met up with the director of the now defunct North Glasgow Social Inclusion Partnership, back in 2004 - he admitted that the place was dire, but with lack of investment, there was very little anybody could do - I think that meant that his job was easy money. Its a council site, so at the end of the day, you would thought that the council after 25 years [bold](and not 15 as stated)[/bold] would have done something here (and I'm not talking about turning it into a park or some tacky industrial units of the type we see in the middle of Govan or Dalmarnock Road) so it just goes to show what the council thinks of deprived areas, they are a contributor, they could have developed this site ages ago and generarted money from it, but they don't give a monkey's. [bold]Frank, what is your angle on this?[/bold] [/quote] What a surprise: a brand new health centre. Great, fantastic, the place will be deed at night. Build it on the second floor and build Possil and Hamiltonhill some entertainment to keep all alive, well and educated at all hours of the day. A Couple of singing detectives based loca would be tops! Only road the corner from the main station. As for selling council land, never, it should be leased.
As for the aboves comment on cheap tacky industrial units: There located next to the Police station. When the writer was offered a unit there, even a wean could climb onto the roof and break in. Which the did often. Slightly improved these days but. What a waste of money and completely in the wrong place.
Lets hope its not another Sprigburn shopping centre, with money launders hanging aboot.
The Missing City wrote:
Brad wrote: "To many"... oh dear...
I know what you're saying Brad, too many wounds, too many zombies, too bloody much eyesores and to top it off, there's simply too many psycho's in government - many of which lived in an era when people were sh1t scared to say "BOO" to a politician. Co-incidentally, I met up with the director of the now defunct North Glasgow Social Inclusion Partnership, back in 2004 - he admitted that the place was dire, but with lack of investment, there was very little anybody could do - I think that meant that his job was easy money. Its a council site, so at the end of the day, you would thought that the council after 25 years (and not 15 as stated) would have done something here (and I'm not talking about turning it into a park or some tacky industrial units of the type we see in the middle of Govan or Dalmarnock Road) so it just goes to show what the council thinks of deprived areas, they are a contributor, they could have developed this site ages ago and generarted money from it, but they don't give a monkey's. Frank, what is your angle on this?
What a surprise: a brand new health centre. Great, fantastic, the place will be deed at night. Build it on the second floor and build Possil and Hamiltonhill some entertainment to keep all alive, well and educated at all hours of the day. A Couple of singing detectives based loca would be tops! Only road the corner from the main station. As for selling council land, never, it should be leased.
As for the aboves comment on cheap tacky industrial units: There located next to the Police station. When the writer was offered a unit there, even a wean could climb onto the roof and break in. Which the did often. Slightly improved these days but. What a waste of money and completely in the wrong place.
Lets hope its not another Sprigburn shopping centre, with money launders hanging aboot.
Comment | Read Comments (10)
