Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:12am Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote]and 700 jobs in Paisley town centre by 2015[/quote]
Perhaps someone from Renfrewshire Council would be good enough to tell us exactly [bold]HOW[/bold] 700 jobs will be created in the town centre???
and 700 jobs in Paisley town centre by 2015
Perhaps someone from Renfrewshire Council would be good enough to tell us exactly
HOW 700 jobs will be created in the town centre???
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:18am Mon 24 Mar 08
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 11:22am Mon 24 Mar 08
ie a RAILWAY station.
Posted by: colin364, pollokshields on 11:59am Mon 24 Mar 08
As I understand it, the station will be located on the motorway side of Car Park 2, with the walkway along the east wall of the car park entering the new Skyhub development.
It won't be of much use to the business traveller, of course. To use it to catch an early-morning flight, the first airport train out of Glasgow Central would have to depart at about 05:30 - and what connections are available into Glasgow before then?
As I understand it, the station will be located on the motorway side of Car Park 2, with the walkway along the east wall of the car park entering the new Skyhub development.
It won't be of much use to the business traveller, of course. To use it to catch an early-morning flight, the first airport train out of Glasgow Central would have to depart at about 05:30 - and what connections are available into Glasgow before then?
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 12:18pm Mon 24 Mar 08
It'll never work. It's doomed to fail. Bring back matrons. They're doing it all wrong. It's political correctness gone mad. Things were better in the old days.
It'll never work. It's doomed to fail. Bring back matrons. They're doing it all wrong. It's political correctness gone mad. Things were better in the old days.
Posted by: jkr, Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow on 12:19pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Good news that the rail link to the airport is making progress. I hope that the platform allocated at Central Station for the new service will not involve a long trek as it is to platform 11A---almost half way to Paisley!!!
Good news that the rail link to the airport is making progress. I hope that the platform allocated at Central Station for the new service will not involve a long trek as it is to platform 11A---almost half way to Paisley!!!
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 2:03pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]jkr[/bold] wrote:
Good news that the rail link to the airport is making progress. I hope that the platform allocated at Central Station for the new service will not involve a long trek as it is to platform 11A---almost half way to Paisley!!![/quote] Yes "jkr" THIS WILL involve platform 11A (A for airport) which, according to the published plans, will be extended up through the existing car park to the barrier line/buffet lounge at platforms 11/12/13!
jkr wrote:
Good news that the rail link to the airport is making progress. I hope that the platform allocated at Central Station for the new service will not involve a long trek as it is to platform 11A---almost half way to Paisley!!!
Yes "jkr" THIS WILL involve platform 11A (A for airport) which, according to the published plans, will be extended up through the existing car park to the barrier line/buffet lounge at platforms 11/12/13!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 2:24pm Mon 24 Mar 08
All Positive news then.
Posted by: Sid Noggins, East End on 3:31pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?
Posted by: The real Mrs Mac, Beith on 3:48pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sid Noggins[/bold] wrote:
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?[/quote] So the neds can get on and cause grief at the main terminal
Sid Noggins wrote:
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?
So the neds can get on and cause grief at the main terminal
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 4:20pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sid Noggins[/bold] wrote:
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?[/quote] for INTERCHANGE purposes! Why should travellers from Ayrshire & Inverclyde (etc)have to travel into and back out from Glasgow Central?
Sid Noggins wrote:
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?
for INTERCHANGE purposes! Why should travellers from Ayrshire & Inverclyde (etc)have to travel into and back out from Glasgow Central?
Posted by: par ochrial, renfrew on 4:23pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Colin 364.
You apppear to assume that everybody who catches an early morning flight lives in Glasgow,wake up ,smell the coffee.Peopple will still use other transport methods to travel to the airport from other areas. The rail link is just not for early morning dunderheids that happen to stay in Glasgow !
Colin 364.
You apppear to assume that everybody who catches an early morning flight lives in Glasgow,wake up ,smell the coffee.Peopple will still use other transport methods to travel to the airport from other areas. The rail link is just not for early morning dunderheids that happen to stay in Glasgow !
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 6:26pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sid Noggins[/bold] wrote:
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?[/quote] Because believe it or not the new route is not just for the benefit of folk getting on at Central station. Paisley is an interchange station linking the Ayrshire and Inverclyde lines..
Sid Noggins wrote:
Why does the train have to stop (briefly) in Paisley?
Because believe it or not the new route is not just for the benefit of folk getting on at Central station. Paisley is an interchange station linking the Ayrshire and Inverclyde lines..
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 7:30pm Mon 24 Mar 08
at the rate of development in aero technology and the need for further expansion of sorts the airport will probably be in the course of moving to a more acccomodating location in ten years time, what then for trains for the planes?
at the rate of development in aero technology and the need for further expansion of sorts the airport will probably be in the course of moving to a more acccomodating location in ten years time, what then for trains for the planes?
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 7:34pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.[/quote] 100% Jim.
It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this [italic]should all be joined up![/italic] Highlights the need for crossrail.
jim wrote:
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.
100% Jim.
It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this
should all be joined up! Highlights the need for crossrail.
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 7:42pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.[/quote] 100% Jim.
It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this [italic]should all be joined up![/italic] Highlights the need for crossrail.[/quote] Forgive my ignorance but not having used public transport for over 10 yrs I have no idea what crossrail is, though a station at the airport does sound good news..
Pete wrote:
jim wrote:
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.
100% Jim.
It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this should all be joined up! Highlights the need for crossrail.
Forgive my ignorance but not having used public transport for over 10 yrs I have no idea what crossrail is, though a station at the airport does sound good news..
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 7:43pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.[/quote] 100% Jim.
It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this [italic]should all be joined up![/italic] Highlights the need for crossrail.[/quote] Forgive my ignorance but not having used public transport for over 10 yrs I have no idea what crossrail is, though a station at the airport does sound good news..
Pete wrote:
jim wrote:
Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.
100% Jim.
It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this should all be joined up! Highlights the need for crossrail.
Forgive my ignorance but not having used public transport for over 10 yrs I have no idea what crossrail is, though a station at the airport does sound good news..
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 7:59pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]George Brown[/bold] wrote:
at the rate of development in aero technology and the need for further expansion of sorts the airport will probably be in the course of moving to a more acccomodating location in ten years time, what then for trains for the planes?[/quote] There's a published masterplan in place for future expansion at Glasgow Airport, this includes the hiving off of land for a potential second runway if required. I doubt anyone will be thinking of a new airport location for quite some time.
George Brown wrote:
at the rate of development in aero technology and the need for further expansion of sorts the airport will probably be in the course of moving to a more acccomodating location in ten years time, what then for trains for the planes?
There's a published masterplan in place for future expansion at Glasgow Airport, this includes the hiving off of land for a potential second runway if required. I doubt anyone will be thinking of a new airport location for quite some time.
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 8:06pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]I hear your pain[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.[/quote] 100% Jim. It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this [italic]should all be joined up![/italic] Highlights the need for crossrail.[/quote] Forgive my ignorance but not having used public transport for over 10 yrs I have no idea what crossrail is, though a station at the airport does sound good news..[/quote] Crossrail is a plan use existing tunnels and tracks to effectively link the rail lines serving Glasgow Central/south & west Scotland and Glasgow Queen Street/ north & east Scotland, theoretically meaning direct rail routes around Scotland via Glasgow, without the need to change stations in Glasgow. In the context of GARL, it would, for example, allow someone travelling from Aberdeen, a direct link to Glasgow Airport, via Glasgow Central, instead of Queen Street.
It would also allow (for example)rail travellers from Ayrshire to carry on north and east of Glasgow Central without the need to change trains, assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services.
I hear your pain wrote:
Pete wrote: jim wrote: Its Great to have Station at Airport,But crossrail is a must now or no point at all.
100% Jim. It's daft that I can get on the train at Rutherglen and be at Prestwick an hour later, but can't do the Glasgow journey by rail too. When I go from my office to Glasgow the Airport bus is pretty good but this should all be joined up! Highlights the need for crossrail.
Forgive my ignorance but not having used public transport for over 10 yrs I have no idea what crossrail is, though a station at the airport does sound good news..
Crossrail is a plan use existing tunnels and tracks to effectively link the rail lines serving Glasgow Central/south & west Scotland and Glasgow Queen Street/ north & east Scotland, theoretically meaning direct rail routes around Scotland via Glasgow, without the need to change stations in Glasgow. In the context of GARL, it would, for example, allow someone travelling from Aberdeen, a direct link to Glasgow Airport, via Glasgow Central, instead of Queen Street.
It would also allow (for example)rail travellers from Ayrshire to carry on north and east of Glasgow Central without the need to change trains, assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services.
Posted by: Steve L, Cambuslang on 10:10pm Mon 24 Mar 08
"assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services."
Have any companies actually expressed an interest in this? I can see the benefit in some cases, but for most, I can't see First Scotrail (for example), going to the effort just to avoid the Q Street to Central walk!
"assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services."
Have any companies actually expressed an interest in this? I can see the benefit in some cases, but for most, I can't see First Scotrail (for example), going to the effort just to avoid the Q Street to Central walk!
Posted by: Steve L, Cambuslang on 10:10pm Mon 24 Mar 08
"assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services."
Have any companies actually expressed an interest in this? I can see the benefit in some cases, but for most, I can't see First Scotrail (for example), going to the effort just to avoid the Q Street to Central walk!
"assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services."
Have any companies actually expressed an interest in this? I can see the benefit in some cases, but for most, I can't see First Scotrail (for example), going to the effort just to avoid the Q Street to Central walk!
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 10:50pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Steve L[/bold] wrote:
"assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services." Have any companies actually expressed an interest in this? I can see the benefit in some cases, but for most, I can't see First Scotrail (for example), going to the effort just to avoid the Q Street to Central walk![/quote] Well I don't know, but you would imagine First Scotrail and SPT would like to extend their 'joining up journeys' slogan into a tangible reality. The other question of course is how do you counter the fact the vast majority of SPT/First services out of Central are currently operated by electric units, whereas it's all diesel cars north of the city ?
Steve L wrote:
"assuming of course any of the train operators are willing to extend their services." Have any companies actually expressed an interest in this? I can see the benefit in some cases, but for most, I can't see First Scotrail (for example), going to the effort just to avoid the Q Street to Central walk!
Well I don't know, but you would imagine First Scotrail and SPT would like to extend their 'joining up journeys' slogan into a tangible reality. The other question of course is how do you counter the fact the vast majority of SPT/First services out of Central are currently operated by electric units, whereas it's all diesel cars north of the city ?
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:18am Tue 25 Mar 08
Crossrail is a Bad Idea. It takes people away from Scotland's busiest station, which of course is at the heart of Scotland's largest employment location. What would happen to the regeneration of Broomielaw, etc. if fewer trains went to Central?
Even if Crossrail were implemented, there's no suggestion that services from the North or anywhere else would go use it. There is very little capacity for additional services to go to Glasgow Airport beyond the 4 per hour that are proposed. The current Crossrail proposal takes those 4 trains into Queen Street Low Level. Unfortunately, for most people, it would actually be much quicker to go direct to Central and walk...
The only cross-Glasgow rail that makes sense is one that links Queen Street and Central - not one that bypasses it! But that'll be hugely-expensive... (think big tunnel).
Crossrail is a Bad Idea. It takes people away from Scotland's busiest station, which of course is at the heart of Scotland's largest employment location. What would happen to the regeneration of Broomielaw, etc. if fewer trains went to Central?
Even if Crossrail were implemented, there's no suggestion that services from the North or anywhere else would go use it. There is very little capacity for additional services to go to Glasgow Airport beyond the 4 per hour that are proposed. The current Crossrail proposal takes those 4 trains into Queen Street Low Level. Unfortunately, for most people, it would actually be much quicker to go direct to Central and walk...
The only cross-Glasgow rail that makes sense is one that links Queen Street and Central - not one that bypasses it! But that'll be hugely-expensive... (think big tunnel).
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