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£3.6m plan to make Govan a ‘retail mecca’
 
Govan, with its heritage and fabulous buildings, could rival the Merchant City, below
Govan, with its heritage and fabulous buildings, could rival the Merchant City, below
 
 

by Sheila Hamilton

GOVAN could one day boast a street of shops to rival the Merchant City, a public meeting in Govan's Pearce Institute has heard.

Over 60 local people were told that if Govan gained conservation status, it would then be in line for around £3.6 million in funding over several years, which could transform the town centre into a stylish shopping mecca and tourism magnet.

Much of the Merchant City has been reborn in recent years with stylish firms moving into old buildings, which have retained their unique frontages.

At last night's meeting it was claimed conservation status would allow new firms to be eligible for grants to encourage them to move in.

As revealed by the Evening Times last night, a £1m campaign is being launched to breath new life into the area.

"The attitude is that Govan is a dump," said Govan man, Councillor John Flanagan at the meeting.

"Govan is not a dump. It is a great community and we need to rally round and make sure Govan gets what it deserves."

Derek Neilson, 75, Govan born and bred and chairman of East Govan Community Council, said: "I move we get this approved as quickly as possible so we can get on with improving Govan. This is long overdue."

Councillor Flanagan added he would not like to see the mistakes of the 1970s repeated, when the then council decided Govan should have a new shopping centre and built a new road.

"Streets were demolished and the population collapsed," he said.

While people approved the renovation of the Farmhouse in Elder Park, Councillor Flanagan said there was concern about the Linthouse Housing Association proposals to build six barns in the park.

But he pointed out there would be stringent planning rules for any development.

Cathy Johnston, group manager, design and environment, Glasgow City Council, said: "It would be important to improve the shop frontages and hopefully encourage the uptake of vacant shops.

"We brought the Heritage Lottery Fund people here and they were struck by how much of the old shop frontage was still there.

"The experience in the Merchant City is that in some cases the old shop fronts are behind the new shops and just need repairs."

Many of Govan's buildings are already A and B listed, but if central Govan gets conservation status, it will mean planning permission has to be sought before any changes are made.

However, the main benefit will be that the council will be able to apply for funding from several sources.

If the executive committee of Glasgow City Council approves the conservation area bid for Govan as an area of special architectural and historic interest in the next few weeks, it will then go to the full council for approval.

Publication date 26/03/08

Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:06am Wed 26 Mar 08
Only £3.6 million...

Possilpark is in line for £15 million of development on one small patch of land

How is £3.6 million meant to improve the area?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:22am Wed 26 Mar 08
Councillor Flanagan added he would not like to see the mistakes of the 1970s repeated, when the then council decided Govan should have a new shopping centre and built a new road.

"Streets were demolished and the population collapsed," he said.


That happened all over Glasgow (Except the West End, of course)

But at least he realises that numptie's were running the show back then. With the furore going on just now with Pollok Park, it seems nothing has changed!

Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:51am Wed 26 Mar 08
Sometimes you wonder if they have a "suspend your critical faculties" course for ET journalists (paid for by the Council's PR dept)... Yesterday Govan was going to be a "tourist mecca"; today's it's a "retail mecca". And all for £3.6m. Complete mince!

I've no problem with investing in Govan - but let's not kid ourselves that this is transformational. It may be a good idea but it's small beer.

The Merchant City examples is nonsense too. It has taken 20+ years and many many millions to get that area to its current state. You might also have noticed that it has the advantage of being in the city centre...
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:51am Wed 26 Mar 08
Sometimes you wonder if they have a "suspend your critical faculties" course for ET journalists (paid for by the Council's PR dept)... Yesterday Govan was going to be a "tourist mecca"; today's it's a "retail mecca". And all for £3.6m. Complete mince!

I've no problem with investing in Govan - but let's not kid ourselves that this is transformational. It may be a good idea but it's small beer.

The Merchant City examples is nonsense too. It has taken 20+ years and many many millions to get that area to its current state. You might also have noticed that it has the advantage of being in the city centre...
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:53am Wed 26 Mar 08
Yesterday a "tourist mecca", today a "retail mecca" - and all for £3.6m (not guaranteed). What mince. It may be a good idea as far as it goes - but that's not very far. Use your critical faculties, Sheila Hamilton!
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:54am Wed 26 Mar 08
PS sorry for all these posts - the website wasn't accepting any for a while. Famine, then feast...
Posted by: Joe Shmo, Glasgow on 1:24pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Just think of all the methadone it could buy the residents.!!
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 1:37pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I like Govan, I'd happily live there if they did it up a bit. Even though last time I cycled through, some worthie threw a fresh trout out a tenement windae at me !!! Naw ye cannae huv yer fish back Mrs !!!
Posted by: Richard Davis, Vienna, Austria on 1:59pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Maybe Stefan king will turn the Pearce Institute into a club/pub as he appears to have done with the building in the Merchant city?
Posted by: John Hamilton, Pacific Quay on 2:33pm Wed 26 Mar 08
What a load of absolute SH1T !!!!

I've never read so much crap in my life, the ET gets more and more tabloid every month and is now a laughing stock for Scotland's major city.

We need a proper evening newspaper, like the Manchester Evening News, Dublin evening paper or thelondonpaper (the new London evening paper), which does proper investigative journalism, questions the actions of the city council, fights to stop this city being downgraded and ignored (especially re. the ongoing decline of Glasgow International airport) and properly reflects this city's status as Scotland's metropolitan city/region.

Instead we have a cringe-inducing tabloid rag, the mouthpiece of the red-rosette wearing mafia.

Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:43pm Wed 26 Mar 08
FFS ET get a grip will you, this obsequious toadying is making my eyes water and making you look like a shower of numpties!

Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:57pm Wed 26 Mar 08
cringe-inducing tabloid rag, the mouthpiece of the red-rosette wearing mafia.


Right on the mark there John. A pitiful excuse for a local evening newspaper. A propaganda rag for the New Labour luvvies
Posted by: hugo, south side on 3:34pm Wed 26 Mar 08
The Evening Times should be renamed the Evening Trash. It insults the intelligence of the average reader. Shopping and tourist mecca, to rival the merchant city, all for a cost which bears no relation to the scale of the problem, who are they trying to kid.

A more interesting story for the Evening Times would why Govan has be neglected and failed by Labour Councillors over the last 20 years whilst similar areas of the City have had major investment of both public and private money. Or a comparison of what money has been spent in what communities, and how effect has that investemnt been in transforming communities.

However, it is unlikely that such articles would go down well in the City Chambers, as a result, we are fed dross and make believe stories, which are viewed as nothing more than 'the latest spin' from
the city fathers delivered by their mouth piece, sorry the Evening Times



Posted by: GML, right here on 4:15pm Wed 26 Mar 08
It does read like it came out of Orwell's 'Ministry of Truth', doesn't it. Who are they kidding?
The adjacent story on this website tells a rather different tale of Govan, regrettably based on facts.
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 5:07pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Did they not say that Govan would rival teh Westend one day because teh BBC moved there...Hmmm that prioved unfounded also. Much as I would like to see Govan up on its luck and becoming a vibrant and prosperous area building a "shopping mecca" isn't gonna tackle the real social problems the area has. However, at least the people who matter are thinking about Govan and attempting to change things for the better and have come up with one more solution than I have to help the area so perhaps I shouldn't be so negative
Posted by: Pete on 5:10pm Wed 26 Mar 08
What an embarrassing rag the ET has become. I wonder how the journalists feel having to peddle this nonsense, have they no sense of professional integrity? Did they really aspire to this when they decided they wanted to become journalists? Why don't they go and write for the council's free magazine, the level of criticism is about the same.
Posted by: Murraymint, Kilbarchan on 5:12pm Wed 26 Mar 08
hugo wrote:
The Evening Times should be renamed the Evening Trash. It insults the intelligence of the average reader. Shopping and tourist mecca, to rival the merchant city, all for a cost which bears no relation to the scale of the problem, who are they trying to kid. A more interesting story for the Evening Times would why Govan has be neglected and failed by Labour Councillors over the last 20 years whilst similar areas of the City have had major investment of both public and private money. Or a comparison of what money has been spent in what communities, and how effect has that investemnt been in transforming communities. However, it is unlikely that such articles would go down well in the City Chambers, as a result, we are fed dross and make believe stories, which are viewed as nothing more than 'the latest spin' from the city fathers delivered by their mouth piece, sorry the Evening Times
I have also often wondered why Govan has always been treated as the poor relation, with countless millions being spent in other areas of the city, notably the East End.

As someone born and bred in the Elder Park area, it makes my blood boil every time I return to see what has been done to a once proud and thriving community. When I was a boy you were proud to say you came from Govan, and most of the area was nothing like Wine Alley, being populated by decent people who worked in the shipyards, Shieldhall and Hillington.

Govan was once at least on a par with Partick in it's range of facilities, but has now been reduced to a poverty-stricken shadow of it's former self. The downturn occured after the implementation of the disastrous overspill plan, which removed large numbers of the skilled working class, together with demolition of perfectly good tenements with shops to be replaced by a new road and an atrocious new shoppping centre.

If GCC think that tinkering round the edges with a pathetically small level of investment is going to make much difference, they are very much mistaken. It will take at least as much as is currently being spent on the East End to make any noticeable difference.



Posted by: mike, Partick on 5:37pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Murraymint and others - maybe it has something to do with Govan voting SNP on and off for the last 40 years.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 6:06pm Wed 26 Mar 08
mike wrote:
Murraymint and others - maybe it has something to do with Govan voting SNP on and off for the last 40 years.
It could be the fact that Labour and Tory policies ripped the heart out the place, much like the rest of Glasgow and Scotland as a whole.

Or would that just be nonsense? I'm sure millions of Scots can't be wrong!

And anyway, you hate tramps and poor people in general, most people do, so rather than give them any help, they are spawning more and more poor people thus the problem is growing.

Ignorance is bliss as they say!
Posted by: boaby, Glasgow on 6:20pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Govan boasts streets where, during the big property boom which we are reaching the tail end of, prices actually went down!. This was due to a number of factors including the buildings are falling down and the people are generally lacking in income and therefore have less expendable cash. 3.6 million! I would be impressed if 36 million would get close to turning Govan into a 'retail mecca'.
Posted by: Mistorsea, East of Bleedin on 8:24pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Murraymint wrote:
hugo wrote: The Evening Times should be renamed the Evening Trash. It insults the intelligence of the average reader. Shopping and tourist mecca, to rival the merchant city, all for a cost which bears no relation to the scale of the problem, who are they trying to kid. A more interesting story for the Evening Times would why Govan has be neglected and failed by Labour Councillors over the last 20 years whilst similar areas of the City have had major investment of both public and private money. Or a comparison of what money has been spent in what communities, and how effect has that investemnt been in transforming communities. However, it is unlikely that such articles would go down well in the City Chambers, as a result, we are fed dross and make believe stories, which are viewed as nothing more than 'the latest spin' from the city fathers delivered by their mouth piece, sorry the Evening Times
I have also often wondered why Govan has always been treated as the poor relation, with countless millions being spent in other areas of the city, notably the East End. As someone born and bred in the Elder Park area, it makes my blood boil every time I return to see what has been done to a once proud and thriving community. When I was a boy you were proud to say you came from Govan, and most of the area was nothing like Wine Alley, being populated by decent people who worked in the shipyards, Shieldhall and Hillington. Govan was once at least on a par with Partick in it's range of facilities, but has now been reduced to a poverty-stricken shadow of it's former self. The downturn occured after the implementation of the disastrous overspill plan, which removed large numbers of the skilled working class, together with demolition of perfectly good tenements with shops to be replaced by a new road and an atrocious new shoppping centre. If GCC think that tinkering round the edges with a pathetically small level of investment is going to make much difference, they are very much mistaken. It will take at least as much as is currently being spent on the East End to make any noticeable difference.
Good posts but is it possible the expanding Pacific Quay could create a focus for the support services they will require in time. The west end,Partick et al is bursting and overpriced & overhyped there must be some sane people who can see the benefits of south side living?
Posted by: Mistorsea, East of Bleedin on 8:26pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Murraymint wrote:
hugo wrote: The Evening Times should be renamed the Evening Trash. It insults the intelligence of the average reader. Shopping and tourist mecca, to rival the merchant city, all for a cost which bears no relation to the scale of the problem, who are they trying to kid. A more interesting story for the Evening Times would why Govan has be neglected and failed by Labour Councillors over the last 20 years whilst similar areas of the City have had major investment of both public and private money. Or a comparison of what money has been spent in what communities, and how effect has that investemnt been in transforming communities. However, it is unlikely that such articles would go down well in the City Chambers, as a result, we are fed dross and make believe stories, which are viewed as nothing more than 'the latest spin' from the city fathers delivered by their mouth piece, sorry the Evening Times
I have also often wondered why Govan has always been treated as the poor relation, with countless millions being spent in other areas of the city, notably the East End. As someone born and bred in the Elder Park area, it makes my blood boil every time I return to see what has been done to a once proud and thriving community. When I was a boy you were proud to say you came from Govan, and most of the area was nothing like Wine Alley, being populated by decent people who worked in the shipyards, Shieldhall and Hillington. Govan was once at least on a par with Partick in it's range of facilities, but has now been reduced to a poverty-stricken shadow of it's former self. The downturn occured after the implementation of the disastrous overspill plan, which removed large numbers of the skilled working class, together with demolition of perfectly good tenements with shops to be replaced by a new road and an atrocious new shoppping centre. If GCC think that tinkering round the edges with a pathetically small level of investment is going to make much difference, they are very much mistaken. It will take at least as much as is currently being spent on the East End to make any noticeable difference.
Good posts but is it possible the expanding Pacific Quay could create a focus for the support services they will require in time. The west end,Partick et al is bursting and overpriced & overhyped there must be some sane people who can see the benefits of south side living?
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 9:38pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Where are those earlier posts ET? Has the loveable vision arose for Govan.

As previous written many months ago, years even for some.
Clad the shopping centre, flats above with back courts on the roof. Extend to the underground, cover the bus terminal, open the Lyceum as a theatre, use the waste ground to extend the stage and facilities. Move the housing association, demolish the big shed, new build Govan housing association flats.
New build opposite the shopping centre, extend the carvan site and make a trailer park; little America. Utilise LED technology, savea fortune on electricity bills; double the amount of light at night time, add cctv. Pearce: turn the lane into the main entrance, fit canopy, LED lighting, automatic doors, make the court yard a new greeting and meeting space, more storage above, universal access for all, no separate access for disabled. With all that new lighting, not so shady now...
Posted by: Ian, Glasgow on 4:57pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Big Al wrote:
I like Govan, I'd happily live there if they did it up a bit. Even though last time I cycled through, some worthie threw a fresh trout out a tenement windae at me !!! Naw ye cannae huv yer fish back Mrs !!!
Ha ha. I'm reading 'The Real Gorbals Story' at the moment by Colin MacFarlane and that sounds like a snippet right out of the pages of that book!
Posted by: Sengafraeglesga, Glasgow on 6:14pm Thu 27 Mar 08
A start would be removing all the dog mess from the pavements maybe...
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