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Bus tragedy survivor’s fury over Lineker’s latest TV ad
 
 
Louise Penman was in intensive care for three days after the horrific crash, below, that killed five people
Louise Penman was in intensive care for three days after the horrific crash, below, that killed five people
 
 
Gary Lineker in the ad that has sparked fury
Gary Lineker in the ad that has sparked fury
 

by Sarah Swain

A SURVIVOR of a Glasgow bus crash in which five people were killed is leading calls for a TV advert that rekindles memories of the tragedy to be banned.

Louise Penman spent two weeks in hospital, including three days in intensive care, and needed 58 stitches in her head after the double-decker carrying Girl Guides from Drumchapel crashed into a railway bridge in 1994.

She is among 62 people who have complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about the latest Walkers crisps ad.

Margaret Riddick, 10, Catherine McKnight, 10, Laura Cullen, 12, and Guide leaders Mary McGreskin, 39, and Rena Dougal, 47, were killed when the top of the bus was sliced off when it crashed at West Street, near the Kingston Bridge.

Louise, 24, who now lives in Kilmarnock, was horrified when she saw the advert featuring Gary Lineker.

The former footballer is seen driving a red Routemaster bus while miming to Cliff Richard's hit song and film Summer Holiday.

Lineker is so busy eating crisps he fails to notice a low bridge sign and crashes into it. The top of the bus is sliced off with a loud crash - similar to the scenario that killed Louise's friends.

In the advert, a band on the top deck ducks down and escape unscathed.

Louise said: "It has been a horrific couple of weeks. We feel more for people who lost family - we are still here. I do not see how they can justify an advert like that for a bag of crisps.

"It's so graphic and horrific. I can't believe they think it is fine because it was such a tragic time for us."

Many of the official complaints are from people in Glasgow and Steven Purcell, leader of Glasgow City Council and councillor for Drumchapel/Anniesland, has also written to Walkers asking for the advert to be withdrawn.

He said: "It trivialises what was a horrendous and devastating accident."

Louise's mum Janice Gallie, from Blairdardie, has also sent an e-mail of complaint to Walkers.

A spokeswoman for Walkers said: "The advert is intended to be a nostalgic and humorous take on the classic film. It was never our intention to offend anyone and we deeply regret if any viewer has found it upsetting."

The Advertising Standards Authority said: "We have received complaints and are checking if the ad has breached the codes."

Publication date 28/03/08

Posted by: TSM, Glasgow on 10:59am Fri 28 Mar 08
The ad is in very bad taste. Not funny at all.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:03am Fri 28 Mar 08
May as well ban the James Bond Film - not a fan of them at all, British Propaganda! Think the film was called Live and Let Die.

However Lineker is a smug arrogant tossbag anyway!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:06am Fri 28 Mar 08
And for those who don't know what I'm on about, there is a scene in that film where a bus gets its roof chopped off similar to the bus in the Walkers advert.

On you go Louise - valid argument!
Posted by: Wallace_Arnold, Glasgow on 11:16am Fri 28 Mar 08
I was surprised that an advert would show such a thing happening but it's a step too far to have it banned, I think.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 11:26am Fri 28 Mar 08
However Lineker is a smug arrogant tossbag anyway


should be banned just for having him in it.

But Louise should take this all the way.
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 11:27am Fri 28 Mar 08
i know someone that got run over
should they ban cars from tv?
i also know someone who died of cancer, i think that cancer storylines should be banned from tv programs

what happened at west street was tragic, no doubt. but its an advert, get over it.
you cant spend your life wrapped up in cotton wool.
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 11:39am Fri 28 Mar 08
yeah sorry the advert should remain on, do you expect walkers to examine every persons accident history for the past 15 years?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:40am Fri 28 Mar 08
yerauldda wrote:
i know someone that got run over should they ban cars from tv? i also know someone who died of cancer, i think that cancer storylines should be banned from tv programs what happened at west street was tragic, no doubt. but its an advert, get over it. you cant spend your life wrapped up in cotton wool.
Yes, Auldman Haha

A unique twist to the argument, I know where you're coming from as in THE ANGLE so to speak, however the makers of the advert obviously never done their homework!

After that accident at West Street, it was closed to all traffic, another street bit the dust due to the laziness of a driver who couldn't be bothered to use Eglinton Street to get on to the Kingston Bridge.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:44am Fri 28 Mar 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
yeah sorry the advert should remain on, do you expect walkers to examine every persons accident history for the past 15 years?
Yes, what about that Norwich Union advert showing the muppets who drive carelessly on the road - another valid argument indeed!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:45am Fri 28 Mar 08
This one appears to be a 50/50 ET
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 11:51am Fri 28 Mar 08
The Missing City wrote:
yerauldda wrote:
i know someone that got run over should they ban cars from tv? i also know someone who died of cancer, i think that cancer storylines should be banned from tv programs what happened at west street was tragic, no doubt. but its an advert, get over it. you cant spend your life wrapped up in cotton wool.
Yes, Auldman Haha

A unique twist to the argument, I know where you're coming from as in THE ANGLE so to speak, however the makers of the advert obviously never done their homework!

After that accident at West Street, it was closed to all traffic, another street bit the dust due to the laziness of a driver who couldn't be bothered to use Eglinton Street to get on to the Kingston Bridge.
missing city i usually agree with most of the comments that you post i think you talk alot of scence! but in this case please tell me what exactly that "homework" is?

cause the way i see it it would mean walkers (and every other media maker for that matter) would have to have reviewed every public accident in the past 15 years, and subsequently strike off each idea for an advert based on the accidents of that review! does that make sence? nope!

Posted by: Shifty, Anniesland on 11:59am Fri 28 Mar 08
My old man choked on a crisp - all crisp adverts should be banned.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:00pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
yerauldda wrote: i know someone that got run over should they ban cars from tv? i also know someone who died of cancer, i think that cancer storylines should be banned from tv programs what happened at west street was tragic, no doubt. but its an advert, get over it. you cant spend your life wrapped up in cotton wool.
Yes, Auldman Haha A unique twist to the argument, I know where you're coming from as in THE ANGLE so to speak, however the makers of the advert obviously never done their homework! After that accident at West Street, it was closed to all traffic, another street bit the dust due to the laziness of a driver who couldn't be bothered to use Eglinton Street to get on to the Kingston Bridge.
missing city i usually agree with most of the comments that you post i think you talk alot of scence! but in this case please tell me what exactly that "homework" is? cause the way i see it it would mean walkers (and every other media maker for that matter) would have to have reviewed every public accident in the past 15 years, and subsequently strike off each idea for an advert based on the accidents of that review! does that make sence? nope!
Well Lad of Glasgow (I Hope)

The thing is, Glasgow itself is not unique to accidents involving low bridges - this type of incident has been going on for years in many areas - notably due to one's negligence!

For that fact alone, the advert is in bad taste, after all if you or I or anybody else outwith those people who already have had experience of such an incident where lives may have been lost it certainly would provoke complaints, and it has done so from many people, and not just from Glasgow.

This is not an attack on you, more a common sense view of the argument as it stands.

As I said above it is a 50/50.
Posted by: Wallace_Arnold, Glasgow on 12:22pm Fri 28 Mar 08
It reminds me of the Little Britain sketch with the grieving widow.

"Why don't I make you a nice cup of tea?"
"He used to like a nice cup of tea."
"How about I put the telly on?"
"He used to like putting the telly on."

And so on.

As I said, I did raise my eyebrows when I saw it but it would be too much to ban it.
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 12:23pm Fri 28 Mar 08
total agree this is a common sence view, you are either on one side of the matter or the other!
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 12:28pm Fri 28 Mar 08
i actually find it selfish that people comlain about it

ok they are offended and it brings back terrible memory's. i fully understand that.

but the world doesn't revolve around them.
if you take every ad on tv, i bet you can find someone who has a problem with it.
the truth is that if you start bowing to every complaint then you end up with nothing at all.

people need to learn to deal with things rather than lash out to get in the paper
Posted by: concerned parent, glasgow on 12:44pm Fri 28 Mar 08
i also think this ad should be banned as i was not involved in this accident but i still think this add is making money out of peoples heartache respect comes to mind
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 1:01pm Fri 28 Mar 08
dont talk mince

you think the board at walkers sat down and went
"lets sell crisps on the back of dead girl scouts?"

behave yersel
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 1:06pm Fri 28 Mar 08
The Missing City wrote:
May as well ban the James Bond Film - not a fan of them at all, British Propaganda! Think the film was called Live and Let Die. However Lineker is a smug arrogant tossbag anyway!
Yes but that was shot, produced, edited and screened long before 1994...

I think it's any advertisers responsibility to consider whether or not it's advertisments may cause offence in the area's it intends to transmit... All they need do is substitute the clip in the STV transmission area.
Posted by: Mezzle, Glasgow on 1:06pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Oh dear, PC taking precedence over common sense yet again. The advert has absolutely no relation to this tragedy and you need to wonder what the real motives are here.
Posted by: Mezzle, Glasgow on 1:08pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Also, if we're going to ban anything that could remotely relate to a real life incident then we won't have anything to watch. I know somebody who fell off a cliff and died, does that mean we'll need to ban Roadrunner and the Looney Toons?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:12pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Mezzle wrote:
Also, if we're going to ban anything that could remotely relate to a real life incident then we won't have anything to watch. I know somebody who fell off a cliff and died, does that mean we'll need to ban Roadrunner and the Looney Toons?
Deep, Deep, Deepy Dee Deep! - That's all folks ;-)
Posted by: raypaterson, Glasgow on 1:31pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I'm not sure if the advert should be taken off air, but the first time I saw it, I was immediately reminded of the terrible tragedy in Glasgow.
Posted by: hazyman, glasgow on 1:31pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Must be a slow news day to have this on the front page. I remember the accident clearly and it was awful but I don't see how it relates to an advert and the idea the advertiser should check all accidents in the British Isles is ludicrous.
Posted by: boldyin, Partick on 2:01pm Fri 28 Mar 08
It's a shame that the advert bring back horrific memories but things like this can't influence what is right or wrong to be shown on televison. It was meant to be a humourous advert in fitting with all the previous Walkers ads. Comedy shows such as Dad's Army poked fun the 1st & 2nd World Wars should we never have made these as millions died?
Posted by: xisle, leyland on 2:09pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I would like to bet that if the accident had happened in the east midlands area(walkers hq)or even in england the advert would never have seen the light of day
Posted by: Kudos, Glasgow on 2:14pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Does Louise not have a remote control so she could change the channel when this advert comes on? Better still if she has sky+ then she could skip the adverts thus not getting upset!! Problem solved.
Posted by: chris1922, Langside on 2:18pm Fri 28 Mar 08
This is pathetic. If we were to ban everything that someone got upset about, everything would be banned ! Since when did the majority, who could't care less about the advert, become less important than the minority who are ?
Some people wanted to ban christmas, and name it "winterval" incase it upset non christians FFS !
Yes, the accident was terrible, but come on it's an advert for crisps ! I see or hear loads of things that annoy me every day, but you just get on with it. It's just a poor excuse for some tart to get in the papers, and most likely a few quid. Ban this, ban that, total rubbish.
If you don't like it, turn off ! Nobody is forcing you to watch it. We are all our own censor.
Posted by: Joe Shmo, Glasgow on 2:32pm Fri 28 Mar 08
The ET hits the spot again with this intelligent, thought provoking piece of journalistic masterpiece...

Nah... change ma mind.... its aw crap.
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 2:37pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I hope Linekar gets prosecuted for careless driving. Eating a packet of crisps whilst driving a bus should be left to professional bus drivers only.
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 2:41pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Mezzle wrote:
Also, if we're going to ban anything that could remotely relate to a real life incident then we won't have anything to watch. I know somebody who fell off a cliff and died, does that mean we'll need to ban Roadrunner and the Looney Toons?
I find that remark more indicative of a News of The World reader than an Evening Times one.

Far be it from me to wonder why the lady feels aggreived by this commercial ? I must be really easy seeing a few of your childhood friends being killed/decapitated in front of your very eyes. Why, what she needs is a good slap eh... ?
Posted by: upanattem, south side on 2:54pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Some of these postings have made me laugh out loud. Does that mean I'm being insensitive to the families of those who died on that bus?
Posted by: CC, Paisley on 2:58pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I have to agree with most of the postings. Of course, it was a tragic thing that happened but sadly some sort of tragedy will happen to someone every day. Where would the banning of adverts or anything else for that matter stop? I lost someone to cancer but wouldn't for a second want storylines etc to be banned.
Posted by: chedwardall, glasgow on 3:13pm Fri 28 Mar 08
The Missing City wrote:
May as well ban the James Bond Film - not a fan of them at all, British Propaganda! Think the film was called Live and Let Die. However Lineker is a smug arrogant tossbag anyway!
I suppose MC anybody with panache,style and manners would come across to you as a smug arrogant tossbag. That says more about you than Lineker.
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 3:18pm Fri 28 Mar 08
upanattem wrote:
Some of these postings have made me laugh out loud. Does that mean I'm being insensitive to the families of those who died on that bus?
Well if you have to ask...?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:02pm Fri 28 Mar 08
chedwardall wrote:
The Missing City wrote: May as well ban the James Bond Film - not a fan of them at all, British Propaganda! Think the film was called Live and Let Die. However Lineker is a smug arrogant tossbag anyway!
I suppose MC anybody with panache,style and manners would come across to you as a smug arrogant tossbag. That says more about you than Lineker.
Well to me that sounds like you hate Jocks, Scotland is full of losers and you want to puff Alan Hansen's White Cigar!

Best of Bwitish Sad Act!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:06pm Fri 28 Mar 08
chedwardall wrote:
The Missing City wrote: May as well ban the James Bond Film - not a fan of them at all, British Propaganda! Think the film was called Live and Let Die. However Lineker is a smug arrogant tossbag anyway!
I suppose MC anybody with panache,style and manners would come across to you as a smug arrogant tossbag. That says more about you than Lineker.
And another thing, if you have to reduce any thread on here to merely slander others for your own gain when nobody said anything to you in the first place, then I can only say...

What does that make you? ;-)
Posted by: Liam, Glasgow on 4:23pm Fri 28 Mar 08
This is a great advert for Golden Wonder.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:26pm Fri 28 Mar 08
chedwardall wrote:
The Missing City wrote: May as well ban the James Bond Film - not a fan of them at all, British Propaganda! Think the film was called Live and Let Die. However Lineker is a smug arrogant tossbag anyway!
I suppose MC anybody with panache,style and manners would come across to you as a smug arrogant tossbag. That says more about you than Lineker.
And another thing, it appears that I've hurt your feelings considering that you have more respect for this pompous spamhead than the lassie who is the main focus of the above story.

If you disagree, your wired to the moon!
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 4:28pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Big Al wrote:
Mezzle wrote:
Also, if we're going to ban anything that could remotely relate to a real life incident then we won't have anything to watch. I know somebody who fell off a cliff and died, does that mean we'll need to ban Roadrunner and the Looney Toons?
I find that remark more indicative of a News of The World reader than an Evening Times one.

Far be it from me to wonder why the lady feels aggreived by this commercial ? I must be really easy seeing a few of your childhood friends being killed/decapitated in front of your very eyes. Why, what she needs is a good slap eh... ?
well big al youve driven me to be blunt! it seems common sence is in desperate need of a booster shot so allow me..

aye she does deserve a slap!, 62 complaints have been made and im willing to bet they are ALL relations of the victims, which is fair enough!

now let me put this concept to you, hypotheticaly your relation sadly dies after chocking on a macdonalds apple pie!, do you muster your entire family to lead the charge in a heroic move to ban all macdonalds appple pie adverts almost 15 years later cause your utterly convinced that macdonalds is being insensitive and rubbin it in? naw exactly! cause even you can see how utterly stupid the argument is!

get aff yer soap box and sit down man your a bloddy tragedy!
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 4:47pm Fri 28 Mar 08
You're willing to bet on what, speculation and self opinion ?
I think you've missed the point here and that indeed is a "bloddy tragedy!"
Posted by: TSM, Glasgow on 5:00pm Fri 28 Mar 08
This type of accident is very common in this country. Another similar incident was reported this week alone.

The UK has more raiway bridges than most countries and more people killed or injured in this type of accident than any other country.

What next, will Linneker be the sole survivor of a plane crash because he was eating crisps at the time?

By all means have a laugh, but does it have to be a sick one?
Posted by: Mezzle, Glasgow on 5:21pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Big Al wrote:
Mezzle wrote:
Also, if we're going to ban anything that could remotely relate to a real life incident then we won't have anything to watch. I know somebody who fell off a cliff and died, does that mean we'll need to ban Roadrunner and the Looney Toons?
I find that remark more indicative of a News of The World reader than an Evening Times one.

Far be it from me to wonder why the lady feels aggreived by this commercial ? I must be really easy seeing a few of your childhood friends being killed/decapitated in front of your very eyes. Why, what she needs is a good slap eh... ?
Don't read the NOTW Big Al and never have, so there goes your rubbish theory straight away!

You're a typical member of the PC brigade or a MOPE if you prefer. You actively go out your way to be offended, much like Miss Penman here.

As I said, if you ban an advert like this you'd open a can of worms and would have to ban near enough everything.

'I think Rice Crispies adverts should be banned because one of them is called Pop. I had a friend called Pop who was eaten by a Shark and it brings back bad memories. While we're at it, ban the movies Jaws as well'

It's getting that pathetic and people like yourself do not help the situation one bit.

For anyone that's interested, if I ever become PM i'd send the PC brigade to Mongolia and i'd invest heavily in freedom of speech becoming available to us all once again. Vote for me!
Posted by: peasan, kilmarnock on 5:26pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Has anybody noticed the open top tourist buses going round every Scenic City?How do you think they got like that?They were not deliberately chopped.They got clattered by some numpty who drove under a low bridge.Cheaper to make them Tourist buses than repair them.Hell of a lot of open top buses out there.Does the driver feel traumatised when they see this Ad?Probably not.Tragic accident at West St,but life goes on.
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 5:29pm Fri 28 Mar 08
i had that arguement the other week
do people actually get offended? or are they just looking to take the moral highground?


i'm pretty bulletproof when it comes to stuff, and believe me,i've had some bad bad things happen in my past

i could easily take offense to everyday things, but i don't
whats the point?

i'll still sleep at night

Posted by: Big Al, Glasgow on 6:07pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I'm not actually offended by the advert, however, I do find it in very poor taste. This is not being PC, because I'm not politically correct, however, I don't believe it was necessary for a crisp advert to use a bus crash as a bit of light hearted humour. Actually surprise golden balls Lineker agreed to do it.

Relating to the argument that this would mean that everything would be off limits if it was vaguely related to real life - I think there would need to be a line drawn somewhere - would it be okay for an advert to show an image of bombs going off? It's whether you think this crosses the line of poor taste.
Posted by: daz, glasgow on 6:22pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Big Al wrote:
I'm not actually offended by the advert, however, I do find it in very poor taste. This is not being PC, because I'm not politically correct, however, I don't believe it was necessary for a crisp advert to use a bus crash as a bit of light hearted humour. Actually surprise golden balls Lineker agreed to do it. Relating to the argument that this would mean that everything would be off limits if it was vaguely related to real life - I think there would need to be a line drawn somewhere - would it be okay for an advert to show an image of bombs going off? It's whether you think this crosses the line of poor taste.
i'm in agreement with you there Big Al it's in poor taste.

but best of luck explaining it to the hard-of-thinking-bri
gade
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 6:28pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Mezzle wrote:
Big Al wrote:
Mezzle wrote: Also, if we're going to ban anything that could remotely relate to a real life incident then we won't have anything to watch. I know somebody who fell off a cliff and died, does that mean we'll need to ban Roadrunner and the Looney Toons?
I find that remark more indicative of a News of The World reader than an Evening Times one. Far be it from me to wonder why the lady feels aggreived by this commercial ? I must be really easy seeing a few of your childhood friends being killed/decapitated in front of your very eyes. Why, what she needs is a good slap eh... ?
Don't read the NOTW Big Al and never have, so there goes your rubbish theory straight away! You're a typical member of the PC brigade or a MOPE if you prefer. You actively go out your way to be offended, much like Miss Penman here. As I said, if you ban an advert like this you'd open a can of worms and would have to ban near enough everything. 'I think Rice Crispies adverts should be banned because one of them is called Pop. I had a friend called Pop who was eaten by a Shark and it brings back bad memories. While we're at it, ban the movies Jaws as well' It's getting that pathetic and people like yourself do not help the situation one bit. For anyone that's interested, if I ever become PM i'd send the PC brigade to Mongolia and i'd invest heavily in freedom of speech becoming available to us all once again. Vote for me!
My suggestion was that they stop the transmission in the STV area, not BAN IT ! Complaints have been lodged, irrespective of whether or not the lady is trying to 'get a claim in'. Please don't judge people by your own standards.

Thb PC brigade ??? I'd send them to Mongolia too, I'd send an ignoramous like you to the moon with all the other diddies however.

The ASA will draw a ruling here, but my opinion is that the lassie has a right to be annoyed about the advert. My recollection of that bus crash was that it was a fairly major news story and well documented nationally. Clearly some don't think so...

Maybe the next Walkers commercial could feature Lineker sneaking into a primary school gym with a gun and stealing loads of crisps off the weans by outting a cap in their heads... ?

Och, shut me up, getting all fecking PC again...
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 6:31pm Fri 28 Mar 08
should they ban planes from flying over lockerbie?

jesus, use a bit of common sense here....
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 7:32pm Fri 28 Mar 08
yerauldda wrote:
should they ban planes from flying over lockerbie? jesus, use a bit of common sense here....
No they divert them east or west, which to the best of my knowledge actually happens nowadays...

Once again I don't advocate a ban, just a bit of commoin sense, like yourself.
Posted by: redneck, somewhere on 7:36pm Fri 28 Mar 08
cant believe the topics that get such a big response.
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 1:59pm Sat 29 Mar 08
I'm always being accused in this Country of having no sympathy for anyone, it must be a Scottish thing. Must be true, after listening to you lot!! :)
Posted by: gilzypops, Greece (at the moment) on 4:33pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Oh for goodness sake, it supposed to be FUNNY. Its not, but that isn't the issue at hand. I have the upmost sympathy for the families of those that died in the crash, however we cannot censor absolutely everything that may cause offence. Slapstick comedy, by its very nature involves incidents of violence and accidents. Whether or not this is your kind of humour is irrelevant. Unfortunately, laughing at other people's misfortune is a human characteristic, and if we tip-toe around anyone who has ever been involved in a tragic event, then we will be reduced to living in a society without humour.
Posted by: lynda R, glasgow on 7:45pm Sat 29 Mar 08
I have been reading some of the comments people have read, and i am more offended by the way they have put down a young girl who is clearly haunted by the tragic circumstances of the bus crash in which my niece margaret-ann died. Louise was actually sat next to my beautiful niece on that tragic day and i was speachless when i first seen this advert but people deal with things in different ways. As soon as i seen the advert i thought ' god they are gonna complain bout that one'. i was a bit upset ,but i agree with everyone. Let them have their moan and complain to walkers, cause at the end of the day, it aint gonna help margaret-ann. . I remember the episode of casualty that was aired, they re-enacted a bus accident similar to the west street accident. They complained and complained but it was too late, it had already been shown. what about emmerdale that had the plane crash, i do believe that if people are offended turn it over they have plenty time to do so. i think the advert is unsuitable and insensitive to my me and my family ,but it probably does appeal to another persons sense of humour. Louise on the other hand is not a ned looking for money or as others say, free crisps. She is just a wee lassie who is emotionally scarred by the fact her best friend died, and knowing she was so close to death herself.
Posted by: inverclyde22, Inverclyde on 8:07pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Am I missing something, or is it only in Glasgow that a bus has had its roof ripped off by going under a bridge that was too low. There's over 6 million folk in the UK so one group of folk in Glasgow aren't the only ones this will have happened to.
Posted by: DMac, Glasgow on 10:07pm Sat 29 Mar 08
inverclyde22 wrote:
Am I missing something, or is it only in Glasgow that a bus has had its roof ripped off by going under a bridge that was too low. There's over 6 million folk in the UK so one group of folk in Glasgow aren't the only ones this will have happened to.
In fact, there's over 50 million people in the u.k. Yes, you were right in saying over 6, but over 50 would be more acurate.

Does a pack of crisps really merit this sort of advertising?

And why did a busy road in Glasgow close because of the carelessness of one stupid bus driver?

Glasgow City Council's solution to everything - Speed bumps, traffic lights or road closures. Never mind fixing the potholes.
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 10:23pm Sat 29 Mar 08
lynda R wrote:
I have been reading some of the comments people have read, and i am more offended by the way they have put down a young girl who is clearly haunted by the tragic circumstances of the bus crash in which my niece margaret-ann died. Louise was actually sat next to my beautiful niece on that tragic day and i was speachless when i first seen this advert but people deal with things in different ways. As soon as i seen the advert i thought ' god they are gonna complain bout that one'. i was a bit upset ,but i agree with everyone. Let them have their moan and complain to walkers, cause at the end of the day, it aint gonna help margaret-ann. . I remember the episode of casualty that was aired, they re-enacted a bus accident similar to the west street accident. They complained and complained but it was too late, it had already been shown. what about emmerdale that had the plane crash, i do believe that if people are offended turn it over they have plenty time to do so. i think the advert is unsuitable and insensitive to my me and my family ,but it probably does appeal to another persons sense of humour. Louise on the other hand is not a ned looking for money or as others say, free crisps. She is just a wee lassie who is emotionally scarred by the fact her best friend died, and knowing she was so close to death herself.
And that Lynda R is exactly the point I was trying to make. As said elsewhere in this discussion, you can't always convince the hard of thinking...

Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 10:25pm Sat 29 Mar 08
inverclyde22 wrote:
Am I missing something, or is it only in Glasgow that a bus has had its roof ripped off by going under a bridge that was too low. There's over 6 million folk in the UK so one group of folk in Glasgow aren't the only ones this will have happened to.
Yeah so should they all 'just get over it' and enjoy their crisps ?
Posted by: michelle r, glasgow on 12:15am Sun 30 Mar 08
i know it late but i have just been reading these comments, i myself was shocked when i sae the advert.i totally agree with lynda r. everyone sees life from different angles and everyone is entitled to an opinion and thats what makes us all unique but sensitivity dont cost anything. i can asssure anyone making comment on louise that she is totally unique and lovely girl that is scarred for life as is lynda r's beautiful niece margaret-ann a totally unique and a very special girl. MY DAUGHTER.
Posted by: Gill-S-, Paisley on 1:36pm Sun 30 Mar 08
I was also one of the seriousley injured survivor's of the West Street Bus crash and I am also annoyed by this advert. Simply because Walkers are making a joke of the roof of a bus being ripped off. It might be funny to most of you with sick minds but not those who were involved in it. After all the kids in this crash were only 10 and 11 years old and have to live the rest of their lives with both mental and physical scars not to mention the parents who lost their children what they must be going through. I notice that people have commented on the fact that should they ban things on tv showing people with cancer etc, the facts are that they are programmes and not adverts and they are not making fun of these situations but showing the affect it has on people to make us more aware of what happens. Last but not least for those of you who are slagging Louise off you sould be ashamed of yourself, who gives you the right to judge her, she is not a ned or any other horrible names you want to call her she is a lovely girl who is just sticking up for what she believes is right. WELL DONE LOUISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 9:49pm Sun 30 Mar 08
no-ones saying what happened at west street was funny, far from it

you just cant wrap the whole world up in cotton wool after something bad happens
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 12:37am Mon 31 Mar 08
yerauldda wrote:
no-ones saying what happened at west street was funny, far from it you just cant wrap the whole world up in cotton wool after something bad happens
That's certainly true, but there's no need to take the **** either...
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 10:24am Mon 31 Mar 08
show me where anyone has made a joke about that incident
no-one has
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 10:43am Mon 31 Mar 08
Its no joke But dont see the connection here.me thinks shes seeking wee bit celeb status.
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 12:15pm Mon 31 Mar 08
sigh i swear to god some people in this city need their heids looked at!

every person here that has contributed has sympathy for the families that were involved in that accident, BUT it was that an accident!

i lost a relatives to a heart attacks, strokes, accidents you name it over the past 15 years does my whole family and circle of friends complain to the bbc that casualty should be banned, of course not its stupid, and big headed to think that anything displayed to 60 million people should be changed or banned just because 60 people in one corner of the UK "dont like it"


Posted by: Gill-S-, Paisley on 12:47pm Mon 31 Mar 08
The point here is not that Walkers are showing a bus going under a bridge and the roof being ripped off, the fact is it shows Gary Lineker still smiling afterwards as if nothing has happened (A P**S take of what happened to us). I'm sure that everyone in the uk this has happened to also feels this way and I am pretty sure that if the shoe was on the other foot you would all be quick enough to stand up and shout. As what I said in my previous comment Casualty etc are programmes showing the affects of heart attacks etc NOT adverts taking the mickey of it!
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 1:02pm Mon 31 Mar 08
aye, i'm sure gary lineker is sitting on a big pile of crisps rubbing his hands with glee

Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 2:37pm Mon 31 Mar 08
Gill-S- wrote:
The point here is not that Walkers are showing a bus going under a bridge and the roof being ripped off, the fact is it shows Gary Lineker still smiling afterwards as if nothing has happened (A P**S take of what happened to us). I'm sure that everyone in the uk this has happened to also feels this way and I am pretty sure that if the shoe was on the other foot you would all be quick enough to stand up and shout. As what I said in my previous comment Casualty etc are programmes showing the affects of heart attacks etc NOT adverts taking the mickey of it!
first of all this advert is not aimed at you, it is a **** take of cliff ritchards movie summer holiday primarily. you are simply seeing in a context that applies to you.

ive been in accidents, ive been in a bus crash myself actually so dont give me this "if the shoe was on the other foot" carry on do you see me demanding an apology? naw, your obviously still extremely bothred by what happended to you, and your obviously havent moved on if you get so upset by a crisp advert 15 years later that you feel the need to have this banned

ive had a lot of things happen to me in my own life that i could take offence at.

so by your logic movies about WWII are a pisstake at my uncles who died so BAN EM.

my m8 was ran over by a van, so adverts for vans? BAN EM

or another example the john west salmon advert when the man fights the bear, takes the **** out of anybody whos confronted a bear so, BAN IT.

do you see the can of worms that get opened with this ban everything thats offensive game yet?
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