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24hr burger bid slated as ‘unhealthy’
 
 

by Chris Musson

PLANS to sell Big Macs round-the-clock have sparked a warning about healthy eating from a Glasgow councillor.

Patricia Gibson claims a bid by McDonald's to open 24 hours will lead to drunks congregating near houses by the Darnley branch.

The company also wants to open through the night at its premises in Helen Street, Govan, after its Springburn Road outlet got the go-ahead to do the same last month.

Only the drive-through sections in Darnley and Govan would be open from 11pm.

But Mrs Gibson has objected to the Darnley plan, which is in her council ward, saying it would encourage unhealthy eating .

The SNP councillor said: "Glasgow City Council needs to be more circumspect about granting licences to vendors that sell unhealthy food with little nutritional value well into the small hours.

"If this application is successful it will attract youths in the early hours and at weekends - no doubt the worse for having taken excessive alcohol - creating noise and litter in the area.

"Glasgow City Council is doing all it can to promote healthy eating. No one can stop those who wish to from eating unhealthy food, but we can stop short of encouraging it.

"Granting this late licence would encourage unhealthy eating and contradict the healthy eating policies of the council."

McDonald's has revamped its menu in recent years and introduced salads and fruit after criticism of the nutritional value of its food.

A spokesman said: "By opening longer, we hope we will continue to provide a good service to existing customers and also to new ones - police officers, firefighters, taxi drivers and all those workers who keep the local area going throughout the night."

McDonald's said it would be glad to discuss the nuisance concerns with Mrs Gibson.

On the healthy eating issue, the spokesman said: "We are clearly disappointed by Councillor Gibson's comments, which do not reflect the substantial changes made across our entire business in recent years."

The council's licensing committee will consider both applications tomorrow.

The Darnley restaurant is currently open until 11pm, with the drive-through open until 1am.

There have been no objections to the extension of hours for the Govan branch. It is open until 11pm seven days, with the drive-through until 1am during the week and 2am at weekends.

A council spokesman said it could not comment on applications before they went to committee.

But officials said opinions on the nutritional value of food - be it burgers or beetroot - could not be taken into account.

Publication date 08/04/08

Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:11am Tue 8 Apr 08
Bad
Posted by: hugo, south side on 11:11am Tue 8 Apr 08
Councillor Gibson would do well to realise that if people decide to eat a burger at 3 in the morning it is none of her business.

She is a councillor not the Gestapo, or the morality police. The sooner these half brained councillors of all parties get that message the better life will be for all of us.
Posted by: Wallace_Arnold, Glasgow on 11:13am Tue 8 Apr 08
Hugo, spot on. What possible business is it of anyone, let along a jumped-up councillor, if a person chooses to beat burgers during the night? What sort of city are we becoming?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:17am Tue 8 Apr 08
I wonder if she's a porky pig on free meals at the chambers? I wonder if she claims her free meals back in expenses only to go and eat more food to become even porkier?

Is she trying to burger the fast food industry throughout the city? Could this be the end of the 4am kebab as we know it?
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 11:18am Tue 8 Apr 08
is anyone brave enought to eat a burger in darnley at 3am?
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 11:26am Tue 8 Apr 08
Agree with Hugo. People are responsible for their own diets, and what they decide to eat is nobody's business but theirs.
Of course, with that personal choice should come personal responsibility for the consequences. No good moaning and looking for compensation years down the line when you cant get out of bed cos youre too fat.
People need to take responsibility for themselves, stop all this interfering and mollycoddling.
Although why anyone would cross the doorway of a McD's for anything other than a pee, is beyond me.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:29am Tue 8 Apr 08
yerauldda wrote:
is anyone brave enought to eat a burger in darnley at 3am?
You're probably right Auldda - more than likely some vile specimen would be slicing you up and leaving you as dead meat on the Nitshill Road whilst his 5 retard mates are booting in to you until they see the dead meat bleed!

Hmmm where's Glorious Failure?
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:42am Tue 8 Apr 08

if this councillor is so opposed to the idea of McD's opening 24 hours. Maybe we should be looking at the idea of 24 hour cafes which sell healthy foods.

When is Glasgow ever going to become a 2 hour city, without it selling kebabs, chips, burgers or beer.

Give people the choice of healthy & unhealthy food, and promote the healthier options more widely, and maybe we'll see people make the better decision in time.

But - if we've no alternatives - or cafes which only sell healthier options, teas, coffees & NO ALCOHOL - then what can we expect?

Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:45am Tue 8 Apr 08

Oops - slight typo/s there. . . .

"When is Glasgow ever going to become a 24 hour city ?"

We might as well be a 2 hour city.

2 hours of getting plastered, out our faces & blitzed - Aye right! 2 hours is a bit like 5 minutes to us "Wegies!"
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:45am Tue 8 Apr 08

Oops - slight typo/s there. . . .

"When is Glasgow ever going to become a 24 hour city ?"

We might as well be a 2 hour city.

2 hours of getting plastered, out our faces & blitzed - Aye right! 2 hours is a bit like 5 minutes to us "Wegies!"
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 11:47am Tue 8 Apr 08
The Missing City wrote:
yerauldda wrote: is anyone brave enought to eat a burger in darnley at 3am?
You're probably right Auldda - more than likely some vile specimen would be slicing you up and leaving you as dead meat on the Nitshill Road whilst his 5 retard mates are booting in to you until they see the dead meat bleed! Hmmm where's Glorious Failure?
Meaning?
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 12:02pm Tue 8 Apr 08
"If this application is successful it will attract youths in the early hours and at weekends - no doubt the worse for having taken excessive alcohol - creating noise and litter in the area".

Well if thats the case then she can either fine them for dropping litter &/or get the lollipop men/women to pick it up & maybe pass a by-law forcing local residents to form vigilante death squads..
Posted by: BhoyWunda, East Kilbride on 12:15pm Tue 8 Apr 08
Big Brother state looms.
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 12:20pm Tue 8 Apr 08
BhoyWunda wrote:
Big Brother state looms.
Forget McDonalds, get yourself down The Maggie for a Scooby Snack. Now that is health food!
Posted by: Kudos, Glasgow on 12:43pm Tue 8 Apr 08
Why am I not surprised that MacDonald’s have suggested this in Glasgow, People are responsible for their own diets and that the problem with this area, The health board has had to buy stronger beds and bigger operating instruments due to the size of the people being admitted to hospital too many people use the excuse they don’t have time to cook or can’t afford it but they can afford to keep MacDonalds and KFC in business. In addition to this as mentioned above these places would also be a magnet for the shell suit bucky swigging neds who litter our society with their presence.

Look at the over all picture and not just the fact that GCC want to stop this place from opening 24/7.

Now if you don’t mind it is lunch time and my big mac and chips are getting cold.
Posted by: mrrealistic, glasgow on 1:22pm Tue 8 Apr 08
I don't really get councillor Gibson's point about drunken yobs hanging around when the application is to open only the drive through over night. Maybe its just me but i don't drive through McDees and then get out my car, hang about, throw litter and open a few bottles. I drive thru then go and eat at home. The basic requirement here is that the person driving thru must be atleast 17 because of the driving licence so drunken yobs i just can't see it myself.
Posted by: Paddy, Glesga on 1:23pm Tue 8 Apr 08
mmm scooby snack
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 1:47pm Tue 8 Apr 08
Where did Maggie go for a while last year? You can't beat their scooby snacks after 10 pints...
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 1:54pm Tue 8 Apr 08
John Kebab wrote:
Where did Maggie go for a while last year? You can't beat their scooby snacks after 10 pints...
I have no idea! I was most upset when it went.

I made the mistake of getting a chilli-dog one night. It may well have been a dog.
Posted by: Donny, Glasgow on 2:10pm Tue 8 Apr 08
I'm starvin noo!!!
Posted by: Murraymint, Kilbarchan on 2:23pm Tue 8 Apr 08
People Power wrote:
if this councillor is so opposed to the idea of McD's opening 24 hours. Maybe we should be looking at the idea of 24 hour cafes which sell healthy foods. When is Glasgow ever going to become a 2 hour city, without it selling kebabs, chips, burgers or beer. Give people the choice of healthy & unhealthy food, and promote the healthier options more widely, and maybe we'll see people make the better decision in time. But - if we've no alternatives - or cafes which only sell healthier options, teas, coffees & NO ALCOHOL - then what can we expect?
Well said People Power!

How many coffee bars are open in the evening in Glasgow city centre? Practically none.
Posted by: stmonan, Glasgow on 2:29pm Tue 8 Apr 08
There are all sorts of reasons why businesses shouldn't necessarily be open 24 hours, especially in residential areas, but healthy eating has nothing to do with it.

Can you imagine the health and safety concerns if the 4am McD's customers tried grilling their own burgers at home?
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 3:00pm Tue 8 Apr 08
stmonan wrote:
There are all sorts of reasons why businesses shouldn't necessarily be open 24 hours, especially in residential areas, but healthy eating has nothing to do with it. Can you imagine the health and safety concerns if the 4am McD's customers tried grilling their own burgers at home?
GRILLING???? Come on now.
Posted by: Ian, Glasgow on 3:12pm Tue 8 Apr 08
I hate McDonald's

I'm really annoyed that KFC is not staying open 24 hours
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 3:28pm Tue 8 Apr 08
Donny wrote:
I'm starvin noo!!!
Hahahaha!!! That was funny!!!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 3:45pm Tue 8 Apr 08
stmonan wrote:
There are all sorts of reasons why businesses shouldn't necessarily be open 24 hours, especially in residential areas, but healthy eating has nothing to do with it. Can you imagine the health and safety concerns if the 4am McD's customers tried grilling their own burgers at home?

This has nothing to do with people opting to cook their food at home, this is to do with the shortage of te provision of cafes which would cook the food for those who wanted it.

Glasgows Woodlands Road at one time had the "Insomnia Cafe" which was open into the early hours of the morning, if not 24 hours.
I remember it had baths full of carp as a feature. It was fab, and a sad loss.

Surely the council would subsidise or assist places which served tea, coffee & non alcoholic drinks as well as healthier snacks.

Those who are interested in starting up their own business should seriously consider the gap in the market for the provision of such 24 hour eateries & cafes - especially in the West End, even one in the South Side - i.e. Govanhill ?

Its simply a case of Communitys getting together and finding the funds, means and ways of being able to provide what the community wants & needs - and plug that gap that is waiting to be filled.

Give kids a safe place to sit in & have a non - alcoholic drink, or adults an alternative to the minging donner kebabs & curries at 2am!

Surely - it's not that difficult!
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 3:49pm Tue 8 Apr 08
John Kebab wrote:
Where did Maggie go for a while last year? You can't beat their scooby snacks after 10 pints...
canny beat **** rusty water out your arse for 2 days afterwards either
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 3:58pm Tue 8 Apr 08
yerauldda wrote:
John Kebab wrote: Where did Maggie go for a while last year? You can't beat their scooby snacks after 10 pints...
canny beat **** rusty water out your arse for 2 days afterwards either
A cheap alternative to colonic irrigation!
Posted by: George Brown, Erskine on 4:06pm Tue 8 Apr 08
I wonder councillor Gibson had any thing to do with changing my choice of eating venue.
I avoid the St Enoch centre at lunchtime nowadays and go else where, Why? well lunch time is the time of all times is chosen to clean the upper eating area, so whilst ravenous hordes descend at the lower level looking for seating, the staircase to eating in comfort is closed off! I removed the tape once and was in the course of getting fits for doing so but fortunately the hungry horde that was following got their way
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 6:09pm Tue 8 Apr 08
I agree with the councillor on this. The Mcdonalds on Nitshill road is very close to a residential area and the amount of rubbish and refuse generated by that Mcdonalds borders on health and safety issue. If that McDonalds was granted a 24 hour licence then the rubbish and waste would be constant and become a health and safety issue. Aslo the other points about drunks is correct. The amount of human traffic that would congregate from Arden , Nitshill and Pollok would be unbearable. If McDonalds wants to be on friendly terms with their neighbours they will take their application no further. Can i assume that McDonalds is going to attempt to get a 24 het licence for the store in Thornliebank? That wont get far .
Posted by: geraldo on 7:14pm Tue 8 Apr 08
Can we not enjoy any little vice in life without the politicians bumpin their gums,after all,yer a long time deed!!!!!!!
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 7:43pm Tue 8 Apr 08
Geraldo its not so much a killjoy issue has a policing issue. I can guarantee you that if the McDonalds on Nitshill road get a 24 hr licence, then the police will be down their constantly. I could understand if this was in the city centre but this is right next door to a residential area. A very bad idea .
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 4:11pm Wed 9 Apr 08

Lets get down to the crux of the matter here - we all know that money talks! & Multi-national Companies like McD's have so much financial muscle & clout they always get their way.

Add to the fact the council will probably stand to gain from the extra taxation it will make from McD's being open 24hrs.....

So - lets not think for one moment the councillors will have the common sense to disallow MCD's from opening all night.

& Lets not think for a moment that the police or any other authorities will advise the council to re-consider due to the drawbacks of such a move.

The stupidity of GCC at times is frankly unbelieveable. And it seems to take them forever to realise the error of their ways, if at all.

When its what communities & individuals want & need versus what the multi-nationals & greedy councillors want & need we all know who wins everytime!
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 8:16pm Wed 9 Apr 08
money money money! it all boils down to money, everytime the gcc have a chance to make more revenue just watch, as long as the citizens of glasgow are being put upon thats ok, they would sell their grannys wheel chairs, totally no concience. one well known addage goes like this....." a parcel of rogues".
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 10:22pm Wed 9 Apr 08
As Long as they pay over-time (premium wage rate, then they should be aloud to open at any time.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:26pm Wed 9 Apr 08
trench wrote:
money money money! it all boils down to money, everytime the gcc have a chance to make more revenue just watch, as long as the citizens of glasgow are being put upon thats ok, they would sell their grannys wheel chairs, totally no concience. one well known addage goes like this....." a parcel of rogues".
Well said trench! GCC are despicable. As are so many councillors up and down the length of the UK. Don't think for a moment that all councillors aren't screwing as much money as they can from ordinary people - and milking the system for what they can get at the expense of us ordinary tax-payers.

The number who genuinely care about us can be counted on one hand - and those who do care, and show an interest in their electorate, are all too often merely crushed under the majority of those who are selfish, greedy, skiving buggers.

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