Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 11:14am Tue 15 Apr 08
Perhaps if they employed competent bus drivers who didn't drive head on into each other on a two way street, the cost of insurance would not increase so much.
Thanks First, you have now given me even more incentive not to use your pathetic, late, dirty, unreliable, overpriced service.
Jokers.
Perhaps if they employed competent bus drivers who didn't drive head on into each other on a two way street, the cost of insurance would not increase so much.
Thanks First, you have now given me even more incentive not to use your pathetic, late, dirty, unreliable, overpriced service.
Jokers.
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 11:23am Tue 15 Apr 08
Firstbus is a pretty fair service. They're usually pretty frequent on the number 5 service, and there's a nearby service that's through the night. Granted, sometimes at the end of the day the buses are covered in litter, but it's the rude, obnoxious, ignorant and loud passengers who make that mess.
Firstbus is a pretty fair service. They're usually pretty frequent on the number 5 service, and there's a nearby service that's through the night. Granted, sometimes at the end of the day the buses are covered in litter, but it's the rude, obnoxious, ignorant and loud passengers who make that mess.
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 11:28am Tue 15 Apr 08
Guess Ill be doing more walking then. I already walk half of my journey to work as I cant get a bus that goes there, may as well walk the rest and save the fare, which is extortionate for the short distance it is...
Guess Ill be doing more walking then. I already walk half of my journey to work as I cant get a bus that goes there, may as well walk the rest and save the fare, which is extortionate for the short distance it is...
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 11:29am Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]witterquick[/bold] wrote:
Firstbus is a pretty fair service. They're usually pretty frequent on the number 5 service, and there's a nearby service that's through the night. Granted, sometimes at the end of the day the buses are covered in litter, but it's the rude, obnoxious, ignorant and loud passengers who make that mess. [/quote] Agreed with the mess.
I just look at the Lothian Buses service in Edinburgh and wonder how we cannot get a similarly high standard of service in Glasgow.
The service I used to use frequently, now very rarely, was changed several times in terms of route, timetable and frequency. Each change made the commute to work longer and the times were not suitable for alot of people looking to get to work before 9 but after 8.
The buses are mostly old with leaking windows and broken heating. I appreciate that buses are not cheap but people will only take a substandard service for so long. Hence the reason First's revenues are falling.
witterquick wrote:
Firstbus is a pretty fair service. They're usually pretty frequent on the number 5 service, and there's a nearby service that's through the night. Granted, sometimes at the end of the day the buses are covered in litter, but it's the rude, obnoxious, ignorant and loud passengers who make that mess.
Agreed with the mess.
I just look at the Lothian Buses service in Edinburgh and wonder how we cannot get a similarly high standard of service in Glasgow.
The service I used to use frequently, now very rarely, was changed several times in terms of route, timetable and frequency. Each change made the commute to work longer and the times were not suitable for alot of people looking to get to work before 9 but after 8.
The buses are mostly old with leaking windows and broken heating. I appreciate that buses are not cheap but people will only take a substandard service for so long. Hence the reason First's revenues are falling.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:53am Tue 15 Apr 08
On yer bikes!
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 11:55am Tue 15 Apr 08
I love cyclin in to work - do it most days, except when it's been wet :) (probably not most days, then!)
I love cyclin in to work - do it most days, except when it's been wet :) (probably not most days, then!)
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 11:55am Tue 15 Apr 08
Can first bus explain why Lothian buses in Edinburgh can charge £1 for a journey that covers the full journey, and still make profit while in glasgow first charges £1.40 for only half a journey and still claim they are not making a profit? First Bus cant have higher costs than lothian buses.First bus is a racket and a monopoly that should be taken to court.
Can first bus explain why Lothian buses in Edinburgh can charge £1 for a journey that covers the full journey, and still make profit while in glasgow first charges £1.40 for only half a journey and still claim they are not making a profit? First Bus cant have higher costs than lothian buses.First bus is a racket and a monopoly that should be taken to court.
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 11:59am Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Meep[/bold] wrote:
Can first bus explain why Lothian buses in Edinburgh can charge £1 for a journey that covers the full journey, and still make profit while in glasgow first charges £1.40 for only half a journey and still claim they are not making a profit? First Bus cant have higher costs than lothian buses.First bus is a racket and a monopoly that should be taken to court.[/quote] Not even half a journey. If I get the bus part of the way home, from George Square to Bellgrove, it costs £1.20. Considering I can get to my mums in Ayrshire for a £3.45 return with another bus firm, it seems excessive...
Meep wrote:
Can first bus explain why Lothian buses in Edinburgh can charge £1 for a journey that covers the full journey, and still make profit while in glasgow first charges £1.40 for only half a journey and still claim they are not making a profit? First Bus cant have higher costs than lothian buses.First bus is a racket and a monopoly that should be taken to court.
Not even half a journey. If I get the bus part of the way home, from George Square to Bellgrove, it costs £1.20. Considering I can get to my mums in Ayrshire for a £3.45 return with another bus firm, it seems excessive...
Posted by: amcg37, Crookston on 12:09pm Tue 15 Apr 08
I use 3 bus companies getting to and from work Firstbus, Citylink & Lothian buses.
Guess which one is always late, uses a poor standard of vehicle, gives poor value for money and appears to be run only to suit shoppers rather than those going to/from work. If FB ran half as well as the other two it would be a 100% improvement. You can complain only so much before you become totally hacked off getting the same promises that never get delivered by the FB management.
Looks like I'll be using the car more and Lastbus will be have another empty seat.
I use 3 bus companies getting to and from work Firstbus, Citylink & Lothian buses.
Guess which one is always late, uses a poor standard of vehicle, gives poor value for money and appears to be run only to suit shoppers rather than those going to/from work. If FB ran half as well as the other two it would be a 100% improvement. You can complain only so much before you become totally hacked off getting the same promises that never get delivered by the FB management.
Looks like I'll be using the car more and Lastbus will be have another empty seat.
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 12:22pm Tue 15 Apr 08
So, covering cost increases is First Bus speak for 'our service is garbage so less people are now using it which means we will now drive more people away with price hikes whilst not bothering to look at the root of the problem; i.e us.'
So, covering cost increases is First Bus speak for 'our service is garbage so less people are now using it which means we will now drive more people away with price hikes whilst not bothering to look at the root of the problem; i.e us.'
Posted by: cheesemonster, Glasgow on 12:26pm Tue 15 Apr 08
I complained to First about their pricing (compared to other European cities) before and their reply was that transport in other countries is heavily subsidised and that First cover a more extensive bus network than many others, therefore they offer 'value for money'...mind you, when I was on the dole I used to get the 60p Magic bus, which was £1.20 for the exact same distance on a Firstbus...hmm
I complained to First about their pricing (compared to other European cities) before and their reply was that transport in other countries is heavily subsidised and that First cover a more extensive bus network than many others, therefore they offer 'value for money'...mind you, when I was on the dole I used to get the 60p Magic bus, which was £1.20 for the exact same distance on a Firstbus...hmm
Posted by: cheesemonster, Glasgow on 12:27pm Tue 15 Apr 08
I complained to First about their pricing (compared to other European cities) before and their reply was that transport in other countries is heavily subsidised and that First cover a more extensive bus network than many others, therefore they offer 'value for money'...mind you, when I was on the dole I used to get the 60p Magic bus, which was £1.20 for the exact same distance on a Firstbus...hmm
I complained to First about their pricing (compared to other European cities) before and their reply was that transport in other countries is heavily subsidised and that First cover a more extensive bus network than many others, therefore they offer 'value for money'...mind you, when I was on the dole I used to get the 60p Magic bus, which was £1.20 for the exact same distance on a Firstbus...hmm
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 12:37pm Tue 15 Apr 08
i dont know how many times ive got to frigin repeat masel about this bus carry on!
1.) GET RID of all private bus operators, and have puplic transport in glasgow under 1 operator. private bus operators are the SOLE reason why transport in glasgow is the total shambles, laughing stock and a bloddy rip off cause every single one of them are money grabbers, all competing against one another instead of serving the public
2.) redo the time tables and routes to be more effecient. its a joke and money grabbin tactic that you cant get on a bus in this city that can take you on a 4 mile journey without having to change buses!
3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse!
4.) clean the buses, this is not difficult the public can actualy do this themselves if glasweigians were not a bunch of lazy, dirty, scumbags that toss their filth at their feet then moan about it!!!!
the whole situation in this city WILL NOT CHANGE unless people start taking some responsibilty.
i dont know how many times ive got to frigin repeat masel about this bus carry on!
1.) GET RID of all private bus operators, and have puplic transport in glasgow under 1 operator. private bus operators are the SOLE reason why transport in glasgow is the total shambles, laughing stock and a bloddy rip off cause every single one of them are money grabbers, all competing against one another instead of serving the public
2.) redo the time tables and routes to be more effecient. its a joke and money grabbin tactic that you cant get on a bus in this city that can take you on a 4 mile journey without having to change buses!
3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse!
4.) clean the buses, this is not difficult the public can actualy do this themselves if glasweigians were not a bunch of lazy, dirty, scumbags that toss their filth at their feet then moan about it!!!!
the whole situation in this city WILL NOT CHANGE unless people start taking some responsibilty.
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 1:02pm Tue 15 Apr 08
First Glasgow wont be able to compete with Lothian quite simply due to the incredible costs they incur with vandalism. Although it would be nice to have a clean bus after 2pm, the mess is caused by the animals that travel on them. If you pay a cleaner, the fares go up even more! Its not difficult to put a Metro paper back in the rack at the front, or even take it off the bus. If you bring on a Macdonalds, take the remains back off. If you need the toilet, try not to do that on the bus either.
First Glasgow wont be able to compete with Lothian quite simply due to the incredible costs they incur with vandalism. Although it would be nice to have a clean bus after 2pm, the mess is caused by the animals that travel on them. If you pay a cleaner, the fares go up even more! Its not difficult to put a Metro paper back in the rack at the front, or even take it off the bus. If you bring on a Macdonalds, take the remains back off. If you need the toilet, try not to do that on the bus either.
Posted by: Davy_D, Glasgow on 1:12pm Tue 15 Apr 08
First Bus provide surely the most expensive and slowest public transport in Europe and quite often impossible to get a seat.They should return to ensuring free pass's are not valid before 9.00am and between 4 and 6pm.
First Bus provide surely the most expensive and slowest public transport in Europe and quite often impossible to get a seat.They should return to ensuring free pass's are not valid before 9.00am and between 4 and 6pm.
Posted by: Steven Glaswegian, Edinburgh (Unfortunatley!) on 1:12pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Lothian Buses have just hiked up their flat rate fare from £1 to £1.10 to cover extra costs etc. Let's hope First won't be upping their fares by 10%! Bring back Corporation Transport!!!
Lothian Buses have just hiked up their flat rate fare from £1 to £1.10 to cover extra costs etc. Let's hope First won't be upping their fares by 10%! Bring back Corporation Transport!!!
Posted by: jules, glasgow on 1:28pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Piffle!
No need! They not losing money, they making millions at our expense!
More expensive than London transport![bold]bold[/bold]
Piffle!
No need! They not losing money, they making millions at our expense!
More expensive than London transport!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 1:30pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Ladofglas25[/bold] wrote:
i dont know how many times ive got to frigin repeat masel about this bus carry on! 1.) GET RID of all private bus operators, and have puplic transport in glasgow under 1 operator. private bus operators are the SOLE reason why transport in glasgow is the total shambles, laughing stock and a bloddy rip off cause every single one of them are money grabbers, all competing against one another instead of serving the public 2.) redo the time tables and routes to be more effecient. its a joke and money grabbin tactic that you cant get on a bus in this city that can take you on a 4 mile journey without having to change buses! 3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse! 4.) clean the buses, this is not difficult the public can actualy do this themselves if glasweigians were not a bunch of lazy, dirty, scumbags that toss their filth at their feet then moan about it!!!! the whole situation in this city WILL NOT CHANGE unless people start taking some responsibilty.[/quote] The first PTEs and PTAs were first established in the late 1960s by the Transport Act 1968 as transport authorities serving large conurbations, by the then transport minister Barbara Castle.
Prior to this, [italic]public transport was run by individual local authorities and private companies, with little co-ordination.[/italic] The PTE's took over municipal bus operations from individual councils, and became responsible for managing local rail networks.
The 1968 act created five PTE/As. These were:
West Midlands on October 1, 1969
SELNEC (South East Lancashire North East Cheshire) on November 1, 1969 (Now Greater Manchester)
Merseyside on December 1, 1969
Tyneside on January 1, 1970 (Now Tyne and Wear)
Greater Glasgow on June 1, 1973 (also operated the Glasgow Subway)
Initially they covered slightly different areas to the ones they cover today. Local government in England was re-organised in 1974 by the Local Government Act 1972. The re-organisation created the six metropolitan counties, and the existing five English PTEs were named after, and made to match the borders of the new counties (for example West Midlands PTE was expanded to take on Coventry and Tyneside PTE expanded to include Sunderland becoming Tyne and Wear PTE in the process). In addition to this, two new PTEs were created for the newly established metropolitan counties of South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire.
The 1974 reorganisation also abolished the PTAs, and their role was taken over by the Metropolitan county councils (MCCs). However when the MCCs were abolished in 1986, the PTAs were re-created.
Local government re-organisation in Scotland in 1975 created the region of Strathclyde, and the existing Greater Glasgow PTE was named after, and made to cover the new region.
[bold]Until the mid-1980s the PTEs operated bus services in their areas, but bus deregulation by the Transport Act 1985 forced the PTAs to sell their bus fleets to private operators.[/bold]
[bold]They were also stripped of their powers to regulate the fares and timetables of private bus operators.[/bold]
So there you go - Regulation works, privatisation doesn't!
Ladofglas25 wrote:
i dont know how many times ive got to frigin repeat masel about this bus carry on! 1.) GET RID of all private bus operators, and have puplic transport in glasgow under 1 operator. private bus operators are the SOLE reason why transport in glasgow is the total shambles, laughing stock and a bloddy rip off cause every single one of them are money grabbers, all competing against one another instead of serving the public 2.) redo the time tables and routes to be more effecient. its a joke and money grabbin tactic that you cant get on a bus in this city that can take you on a 4 mile journey without having to change buses! 3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse! 4.) clean the buses, this is not difficult the public can actualy do this themselves if glasweigians were not a bunch of lazy, dirty, scumbags that toss their filth at their feet then moan about it!!!! the whole situation in this city WILL NOT CHANGE unless people start taking some responsibilty.
The first PTEs and PTAs were first established in the late 1960s by the Transport Act 1968 as transport authorities serving large conurbations, by the then transport minister Barbara Castle.
Prior to this,
public transport was run by individual local authorities and private companies, with little co-ordination. The PTE's took over municipal bus operations from individual councils, and became responsible for managing local rail networks.
The 1968 act created five PTE/As. These were:
West Midlands on October 1, 1969
SELNEC (South East Lancashire North East Cheshire) on November 1, 1969 (Now Greater Manchester)
Merseyside on December 1, 1969
Tyneside on January 1, 1970 (Now Tyne and Wear)
Greater Glasgow on June 1, 1973 (also operated the Glasgow Subway)
Initially they covered slightly different areas to the ones they cover today. Local government in England was re-organised in 1974 by the Local Government Act 1972. The re-organisation created the six metropolitan counties, and the existing five English PTEs were named after, and made to match the borders of the new counties (for example West Midlands PTE was expanded to take on Coventry and Tyneside PTE expanded to include Sunderland becoming Tyne and Wear PTE in the process). In addition to this, two new PTEs were created for the newly established metropolitan counties of South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire.
The 1974 reorganisation also abolished the PTAs, and their role was taken over by the Metropolitan county councils (MCCs). However when the MCCs were abolished in 1986, the PTAs were re-created.
Local government re-organisation in Scotland in 1975 created the region of Strathclyde, and the existing Greater Glasgow PTE was named after, and made to cover the new region.
Until the mid-1980s the PTEs operated bus services in their areas, but bus deregulation by the Transport Act 1985 forced the PTAs to sell their bus fleets to private operators.
They were also stripped of their powers to regulate the fares and timetables of private bus operators.
So there you go - Regulation works, privatisation doesn't!
Posted by: woody, paisley on 1:32pm Tue 15 Apr 08
meep lothian buses are heavy subsidized from the local government some thing that does not happen in glasgow as like many other city in britian glasgow sold out to first.
meep lothian buses are heavy subsidized from the local government some thing that does not happen in glasgow as like many other city in britian glasgow sold out to first.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 1:46pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners.
The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive.
Regulation is the answer.
Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners.
The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive.
Regulation is the answer.
Posted by: woody, on a bus on 1:47pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Ladofglas25 wrote:
3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse!
so what your saying is im to get out my cab and take a 50-50 chance of getting stabbed. let me think about that for a second NO CHANCE! but you feel free to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and give them a boot up the arse i will have my hand hovering over the radio waiting to give a ambulance a call for you
Ladofglas25 wrote:
3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse!
so what your saying is im to get out my cab and take a 50-50 chance of getting stabbed. let me think about that for a second NO CHANCE! but you feel free to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and give them a boot up the arse i will have my hand hovering over the radio waiting to give a ambulance a call for you
Posted by: yerauldda, West End Exile on 1:52pm Tue 15 Apr 08
bring back bus conductors
with cans of mace and baseballbats
bring back bus conductors
with cans of mace and baseballbats
Posted by: woody, paisley on 2:04pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.[/quote] its £1.40 you seem to have never used a bus since november 2007 or are you just a fair dodger another huge problem for first.
Stewie Griffin wrote:
Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.
its £1.40 you seem to have never used a bus since november 2007 or are you just a fair dodger another huge problem for first.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:34pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]yerauldda[/bold] wrote:
bring back bus conductors with cans of mace and baseballbats[/quote] Yes Auldda, an interesting, altenative twist on the return of the old clippie.
I can imagine some mad burd fae Pollok swinging a baseball bat when some ned tries to grab her arse in an attempt to show off to his mates, or better still, she could probably even have one of those choice weapons I was telling you about last week which would inflict major damage, but getting the message across to thick numb nuts who were brought up to behave like wild animals.
Mother's Pride eh!
Come to think of it, I reckon women have miore balls than men, some are absolutley off the wall, so why doesn't the government (Scottish Government that is) employ conductresses to work on public transport?
To qualify for a job they have to be from a rough family, having spent minimum 30 days in the jail at somepoint during their life, be able to show scars on knuckles due to being bladdered and fighting men after a session at the boozer!
I don't think anybody would argue or cuase a disturbance if these type of clippies were emplyed to restore order!
yerauldda wrote:
bring back bus conductors with cans of mace and baseballbats
Yes Auldda, an interesting, altenative twist on the return of the old clippie.
I can imagine some mad burd fae Pollok swinging a baseball bat when some ned tries to grab her arse in an attempt to show off to his mates, or better still, she could probably even have one of those choice weapons I was telling you about last week which would inflict major damage, but getting the message across to thick numb nuts who were brought up to behave like wild animals.
Mother's Pride eh!
Come to think of it, I reckon women have miore balls than men, some are absolutley off the wall, so why doesn't the government (Scottish Government that is) employ conductresses to work on public transport?
To qualify for a job they have to be from a rough family, having spent minimum 30 days in the jail at somepoint during their life, be able to show scars on knuckles due to being bladdered and fighting men after a session at the boozer!
I don't think anybody would argue or cuase a disturbance if these type of clippies were emplyed to restore order!
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 2:41pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners.
The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive.
Regulation is the answer.[/quote] If they do smell, it's probably due to fatties who are too lazy to walk any distance - 6 stops for example!
Stewie Griffin wrote:
Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners.
The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive.
Regulation is the answer.
If they do smell, it's probably due to fatties who are too lazy to walk any distance - 6 stops for example!
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 2:52pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]witterquick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.[/quote] If they do smell, it's probably due to fatties who are too lazy to walk any distance - 6 stops for example! [/quote] Which reminds me, I had the misfortune of being on the bus last week. A big heffer was taking up a seat plus half the aisle making it difficult to squeeze by. Upon turning a corner at pace, the fatty fell out onto the aisle. Cue stifled laughter from all.
Make them walk! Or pay double fares!
witterquick wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.
If they do smell, it's probably due to fatties who are too lazy to walk any distance - 6 stops for example!
Which reminds me, I had the misfortune of being on the bus last week. A big heffer was taking up a seat plus half the aisle making it difficult to squeeze by. Upon turning a corner at pace, the fatty fell out onto the aisle. Cue stifled laughter from all.
Make them walk! Or pay double fares!
Posted by: hightower, glasgow on 3:25pm Tue 15 Apr 08
the roads will be more full of cars than ever. can we get rid of the bus lanes now
the roads will be more full of cars than ever. can we get rid of the bus lanes now
Posted by: gailiebabes, Glasgow on 3:52pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Ladofglas25[/bold] wrote:
i dont know how many times ive got to frigin repeat masel about this bus carry on! 1.) GET RID of all private bus operators, and have puplic transport in glasgow under 1 operator. private bus operators are the SOLE reason why transport in glasgow is the total shambles, laughing stock and a bloddy rip off cause every single one of them are money grabbers, all competing against one another instead of serving the public 2.) redo the time tables and routes to be more effecient. its a joke and money grabbin tactic that you cant get on a bus in this city that can take you on a 4 mile journey without having to change buses! 3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse! 4.) clean the buses, this is not difficult the public can actualy do this themselves if glasweigians were not a bunch of lazy, dirty, scumbags that toss their filth at their feet then moan about it!!!! the whole situation in this city WILL NOT CHANGE unless people start taking some responsibilty.[/quote] I whole-heartily agree with you. I buy a zonecard so I can use any bus company in Glasgow and they are all the same dirty old buses. I know my mammy taught me to put my rubbish in the bin but it looks like the majority of Glasgow feels it is their right to dispose of their mess everywhere but the bin.
Ladofglas25 wrote:
i dont know how many times ive got to frigin repeat masel about this bus carry on! 1.) GET RID of all private bus operators, and have puplic transport in glasgow under 1 operator. private bus operators are the SOLE reason why transport in glasgow is the total shambles, laughing stock and a bloddy rip off cause every single one of them are money grabbers, all competing against one another instead of serving the public 2.) redo the time tables and routes to be more effecient. its a joke and money grabbin tactic that you cant get on a bus in this city that can take you on a 4 mile journey without having to change buses! 3.) get the police or even the drivers to toss aggressive passengers off the bus by the back of the neck and a boot up the arse! 4.) clean the buses, this is not difficult the public can actualy do this themselves if glasweigians were not a bunch of lazy, dirty, scumbags that toss their filth at their feet then moan about it!!!! the whole situation in this city WILL NOT CHANGE unless people start taking some responsibilty.
I whole-heartily agree with you. I buy a zonecard so I can use any bus company in Glasgow and they are all the same dirty old buses. I know my mammy taught me to put my rubbish in the bin but it looks like the majority of Glasgow feels it is their right to dispose of their mess everywhere but the bin.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 3:55pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Its been said you can always judge a city by its transport system ...
Where does that leave us ???
Its been said you can always judge a city by its transport system ...
Where does that leave us ???
Posted by: gailiebabes, Glasgow on 3:57pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]roor06[/bold] wrote:
Its been said you can always judge a city by its transport system ... Where does that leave us ???[/quote] LOL. Wur dooommmed!
roor06 wrote:
Its been said you can always judge a city by its transport system ... Where does that leave us ???
LOL. Wur dooommmed!
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 3:58pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]woody[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.[/quote] its £1.40 you seem to have never used a bus since november 2007 or are you just a fair dodger another huge problem for first. [/quote] No, I pay for a two zone monthly ticket. Thank you very much. I don't own a car and don't live near a train station so am pretty much held to ransom by First Bus.
woody wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.
its £1.40 you seem to have never used a bus since november 2007 or are you just a fair dodger another huge problem for first.
No, I pay for a two zone monthly ticket. Thank you very much. I don't own a car and don't live near a train station so am pretty much held to ransom by First Bus.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 4:00pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]witterquick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.[/quote] If they do smell, it's probably due to fatties who are too lazy to walk any distance - 6 stops for example! [/quote] Fatties - 90% of the population of Glasgow then.
witterquick wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.
If they do smell, it's probably due to fatties who are too lazy to walk any distance - 6 stops for example!
Fatties - 90% of the population of Glasgow then.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 4:08pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Lets all go on strike ...
Dont turn up for work tomorrow ...
Dont drive the car,dont take the train,dont use the underground and dont get the bus ...
Lets all go on strike ...
Dont turn up for work tomorrow ...
Dont drive the car,dont take the train,dont use the underground and dont get the bus ...
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:09pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]gailiebabes[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]roor06[/bold] wrote: Its been said you can always judge a city by its transport system ... Where does that leave us ???[/quote] LOL. Wur dooommmed![/quote] More like the laughing stock of Europe!
As I said too many times, Glasgow and its controllers were anxious to dispose of all modes of public transport in the 60's simply because it was a nuisance for getting in the way of the motor car.
That on top of rationing the railway network in Glasgow and all across Scotland.
Then the dreaded privatisation of the bus industry in 1986
This is what we now have as a result!
What does Transport Scotland aim to do in order to reverse these acts of insane madness?
Why don't we all go for a job in government and carry out acts of insane madness and then we can never be held accountable for making such an arse of things?
gailiebabes wrote:
roor06 wrote: Its been said you can always judge a city by its transport system ... Where does that leave us ???
LOL. Wur dooommmed!
More like the laughing stock of Europe!
As I said too many times, Glasgow and its controllers were anxious to dispose of all modes of public transport in the 60's simply because it was a nuisance for getting in the way of the motor car.
That on top of rationing the railway network in Glasgow and all across Scotland.
Then the dreaded privatisation of the bus industry in 1986
This is what we now have as a result!
What does Transport Scotland aim to do in order to reverse these acts of insane madness?
Why don't we all go for a job in government and carry out acts of insane madness and then we can never be held accountable for making such an arse of things?
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 4:17pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Never had time for govt (TMC)
Insane madness I can do that ...
Never had time for govt (TMC)
Insane madness I can do that ...
Posted by: james28, hamilton on 4:19pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Bring back the trams thats what a say
Bring back the trams thats what a say
Posted by: woody, paisley on 4:26pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]woody[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.[/quote] its £1.40 you seem to have never used a bus since november 2007 or are you just a fair dodger another huge problem for first. [/quote] No, I pay for a two zone monthly ticket. Thank you very much. I don't own a car and don't live near a train station so am pretty much held to ransom by First Bus. [/quote] get on your bike then and keep off my bus
Stewie Griffin wrote:
woody wrote: Stewie Griffin wrote: Why do First buses smell of pee? The seats are manky so they obviously don't spend money on cleaners. The bus fares are too restricted. £1.35 to travel 6 stops is excessive. Regulation is the answer.
its £1.40 you seem to have never used a bus since november 2007 or are you just a fair dodger another huge problem for first.
No, I pay for a two zone monthly ticket. Thank you very much. I don't own a car and don't live near a train station so am pretty much held to ransom by First Bus.
get on your bike then and keep off my bus
Posted by: stmonan, Glasgow on 4:31pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Buses are for losers. With too much time to get anywhere, too much crap to drop on the seats, too many screeching neddy pals to talk to or mobile phones to scream into and too few brain cells to work out that crawling down the streets with bare hands and knees would be more pleasant than getting a bus anywhere in Glasgow.
Buses are for losers. With too much time to get anywhere, too much crap to drop on the seats, too many screeching neddy pals to talk to or mobile phones to scream into and too few brain cells to work out that crawling down the streets with bare hands and knees would be more pleasant than getting a bus anywhere in Glasgow.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 4:37pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Woody, you will make an inspector one day ...
Woody, you will make an inspector one day ...
Posted by: woody, paisley on 4:41pm Tue 15 Apr 08
you better believe it and fannys like stewie will be walking
you better believe it and fannys like stewie will be walking
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:55pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]woody[/bold] wrote:
you better believe it and fannys like stewie will be walking [/quote] I walk usually because it takes as long for me to get to a bus stop and wait on a bus as it does to actually walk it to Buchanan Bus Station.
Tha's how close I am to town, but no First Bus
So I agree with Stewie
First Bus are pure sh1te!
woody wrote:
you better believe it and fannys like stewie will be walking
I walk usually because it takes as long for me to get to a bus stop and wait on a bus as it does to actually walk it to Buchanan Bus Station.
Tha's how close I am to town, but no First Bus
So I agree with Stewie
First Bus are pure sh1te!
Posted by: woody, paisley on 5:30pm Tue 15 Apr 08
if your that close to town you should walk it everytime anyway
if your that close to town you should walk it everytime anyway
Posted by: johnboy, giffnock on 5:49pm Tue 15 Apr 08
hardly suprising if first bus put the fares up agaaaaaaiiin pure and utter greed, and yes the buses are manky,tripping faced drivers, time someone took the contract off the first group, for providing transport both bus,train and give it to someone who can provide a half decent service without blowing a hole in your pocket.
hardly suprising if first bus put the fares up agaaaaaaiiin pure and utter greed, and yes the buses are manky,tripping faced drivers, time someone took the contract off the first group, for providing transport both bus,train and give it to someone who can provide a half decent service without blowing a hole in your pocket.
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 5:52pm Tue 15 Apr 08
WHAT IS A 'BUS'? LOL
oh aye I recall, in my youth, sitting on one getting shouted at by some lout driver, that I had underpaid a 10p fair and told to get off a stop early -um I WAS A GROWN WOMAN AGED 20 at the time ordered off a scabby single decker? EH NO EXACTLY A FAIR DODGING VANDAL?
oh and I also remember,THE JOYS OF SHARING YORU PERSONAL SPACE WITH drunken folk , teenagers screaming/having a carryon, now I hear, that ignorant folk talk lot of **** loudly into mobile phones
I DRIVE THe ROUTE I WANT -I DONT COLLECT ANY FOLK ON THE WAY-I USE MY BRAKES WHEN AM GETTING IN AND OUT MA CAR OR MA PASSNEGERS, WE WEAR SEATBELTS, I KNOW THE HIGHWAY CODE, (BUS DRIVERS MAKE THEIR OWN RULES)I AM NO SUBJECTED TO GREY HEIDED BUS DRIVERS RULES AND FEES AND FORCED TO ENDURE LONG DRAWN OUT JOURNEYS IN AN OVER CROWDED STINKING CABIN, I CAN PLAY MY OWN SOUNDS, AND HAVE MY OWN CHATS TO THSOE IN MY SPACE...
I HATE BUSES AND HAVE NO NEED TO USE THEM.
i hate glasgow city centre and have no need to drive into it , i would take a train or a taxi, if i ever had to, rather than a SHOCK HORROR CRAPPY BUS or use my legs a bike if I had to, I find it hard to afford petrol but I pay my tax and insurance and I would dearly miss my car if I hadnt got it...contending wi buses is no joke...
clogging up the whole place, noxious fumes, driving by in tango always...empty, pulling out in front of ye, almost killing cyclists and having no patience at wheel, and no consideration for other road users, jumping red lights, driving over speed bumps at speed almost putting my pelvis in, ignoring folk with hands out at stops ....and no consideration for elderly trying to alight ...hobble on and off....no ta- stick yer buses.
WHAT A CHEEK HIKING PRICES UP. BUSES ARE A NIGHTMARE I HATE THEM , ALL THE MALE DRIVERS ARE LETCHY , CHATTING UP TEENAGED LASSIES AS WELL
if it sounds like I hate buses/drivers ye got it in one
WHAT IS A 'BUS'? LOL
oh aye I recall, in my youth, sitting on one getting shouted at by some lout driver, that I had underpaid a 10p fair and told to get off a stop early -um I WAS A GROWN WOMAN AGED 20 at the time ordered off a scabby single decker? EH NO EXACTLY A FAIR DODGING VANDAL?
oh and I also remember,THE JOYS OF SHARING YORU PERSONAL SPACE WITH drunken folk , teenagers screaming/having a carryon, now I hear, that ignorant folk talk lot of **** loudly into mobile phones
I DRIVE THe ROUTE I WANT -I DONT COLLECT ANY FOLK ON THE WAY-I USE MY BRAKES WHEN AM GETTING IN AND OUT MA CAR OR MA PASSNEGERS, WE WEAR SEATBELTS, I KNOW THE HIGHWAY CODE, (BUS DRIVERS MAKE THEIR OWN RULES)I AM NO SUBJECTED TO GREY HEIDED BUS DRIVERS RULES AND FEES AND FORCED TO ENDURE LONG DRAWN OUT JOURNEYS IN AN OVER CROWDED STINKING CABIN, I CAN PLAY MY OWN SOUNDS, AND HAVE MY OWN CHATS TO THSOE IN MY SPACE...
I HATE BUSES AND HAVE NO NEED TO USE THEM.
i hate glasgow city centre and have no need to drive into it , i would take a train or a taxi, if i ever had to, rather than a SHOCK HORROR CRAPPY BUS or use my legs a bike if I had to, I find it hard to afford petrol but I pay my tax and insurance and I would dearly miss my car if I hadnt got it...contending wi buses is no joke...
clogging up the whole place, noxious fumes, driving by in tango always...empty, pulling out in front of ye, almost killing cyclists and having no patience at wheel, and no consideration for other road users, jumping red lights, driving over speed bumps at speed almost putting my pelvis in, ignoring folk with hands out at stops ....and no consideration for elderly trying to alight ...hobble on and off....no ta- stick yer buses.
WHAT A CHEEK HIKING PRICES UP. BUSES ARE A NIGHTMARE I HATE THEM , ALL THE MALE DRIVERS ARE LETCHY , CHATTING UP TEENAGED LASSIES AS WELL
if it sounds like I hate buses/drivers ye got it in one
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 6:05pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Woody did you throw weegielady aff the bus for being 10p short, Ya heartless busdriver ye ...
Woody did you throw weegielady aff the bus for being 10p short, Ya heartless busdriver ye ...
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow bus on 6:26pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[bold]Memoirs of a Bus passenger in Glasgow[/bold]
I recall memories lol of days before I passed my driving test, relaint on buses...of upper and lower deck travel..the waft of a drunken jakey snoozing ,his open gob pressed against a window, grumpy grannies clambering on, who waited in the queue quietly/innocently KIDDING ON THEY WERE FRAGILE .they got on like a tornado and rampaged huffily in their brown tweed jackets with tartan shopping trolley blocking the whole aisle...whilst tutting and complaining,LOUDLY and teenagers running up the stairs and clattering halfway down .giggling lassies, as bus tears away before they make it ,with plastic cider bottles up their duke...oh and smokers craftily sneaking a fag despite signs saying NO SMOKING!
It aint nice to sit in a bus, and I always seemed to get on a jam packed bus, perching on the non window seat, having to sit next to someone dodgy and pretend to not look at them and pray someone gets off the other seat behind ,so you can escape. Is it just me? I must have bus phobia or something.
battering yer heid off the metal bars on the seats in front, kidding on yer reading the adverts...what I hated is entering a mobbed bus and 50 pairs of eyes on ye...or a nosy wean facing you saying 'mummy why does that lady have a beard ?' or something mortifying ...being temporarily at someone elses driving mercy, trapped with folk you would never even ask the time of day , who else recalls sick running under yer feet in a stream from unknown source as well?
I have only ever been on buses with Victor Meldrew at the wheel, no pleasantries exchanged just growls, no patience.
They never show up and when they do , they are like men on web dating sites, none for ages then two at once...lolol
Memoirs of a Bus passenger in Glasgow
I recall memories lol of days before I passed my driving test, relaint on buses...of upper and lower deck travel..the waft of a drunken jakey snoozing ,his open gob pressed against a window, grumpy grannies clambering on, who waited in the queue quietly/innocently KIDDING ON THEY WERE FRAGILE .they got on like a tornado and rampaged huffily in their brown tweed jackets with tartan shopping trolley blocking the whole aisle...whilst tutting and complaining,LOUDLY and teenagers running up the stairs and clattering halfway down .giggling lassies, as bus tears away before they make it ,with plastic cider bottles up their duke...oh and smokers craftily sneaking a fag despite signs saying NO SMOKING!
It aint nice to sit in a bus, and I always seemed to get on a jam packed bus, perching on the non window seat, having to sit next to someone dodgy and pretend to not look at them and pray someone gets off the other seat behind ,so you can escape. Is it just me? I must have bus phobia or something.
battering yer heid off the metal bars on the seats in front, kidding on yer reading the adverts...what I hated is entering a mobbed bus and 50 pairs of eyes on ye...or a nosy wean facing you saying 'mummy why does that lady have a beard ?' or something mortifying ...being temporarily at someone elses driving mercy, trapped with folk you would never even ask the time of day , who else recalls sick running under yer feet in a stream from unknown source as well?
I have only ever been on buses with Victor Meldrew at the wheel, no pleasantries exchanged just growls, no patience.
They never show up and when they do , they are like men on web dating sites, none for ages then two at once...lolol
Posted by: qwertyu on 7:14pm Tue 15 Apr 08
well to stop the fare hiking its simple FIRST SHOULD BING BACK THE TICKET EXAMINERS OR NOW AS REVENUE PROTECTION OFFICER. I think S.P.T. waste public funds they are to blame as too much money is given to bus cowboy companys who are there only to milk the cream and they hide after 18.00 what i will never understand why i do they not run at night.
well to stop the fare hiking its simple FIRST SHOULD BING BACK THE TICKET EXAMINERS OR NOW AS REVENUE PROTECTION OFFICER. I think S.P.T. waste public funds they are to blame as too much money is given to bus cowboy companys who are there only to milk the cream and they hide after 18.00 what i will never understand why i do they not run at night.
Posted by: woody, paisley on 7:39pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]roor06[/bold] wrote:
Woody did you throw weegielady aff the bus for being 10p short, Ya heartless busdriver ye ... [/quote] yeah i did why should everyone else pay the correct fair and not her
roor06 wrote:
Woody did you throw weegielady aff the bus for being 10p short, Ya heartless busdriver ye ...
yeah i did why should everyone else pay the correct fair and not her
Posted by: sambex, glasgow on 7:56pm Tue 15 Apr 08
i am a glasgow bus driver and lothian buses are council run and can run at a loss :passengers stand at a bus stop for maybe 10 mins when the bus comes they start looking for their money or pass !useless ask how much the fare is then give you a tenner :useless ask to let them off at traffic lights when u refuse they call u a ****:useless just a minute amount of problems us drivers face daily
i am a glasgow bus driver and lothian buses are council run and can run at a loss :passengers stand at a bus stop for maybe 10 mins when the bus comes they start looking for their money or pass !useless ask how much the fare is then give you a tenner :useless ask to let them off at traffic lights when u refuse they call u a ****:useless just a minute amount of problems us drivers face daily
Posted by: woody, paisley on 8:34pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]sambex[/bold] wrote:
i am a glasgow bus driver and lothian buses are council run and can run at a loss :passengers stand at a bus stop for maybe 10 mins when the bus comes they start looking for their money or pass !useless ask how much the fare is then give you a tenner :useless ask to let them off at traffic lights when u refuse they call u a ****:useless just a minute amount of problems us drivers face daily[/quote] sambex the public dont care about what us bus drivers have to put up with on a daily basis as long as the bus turns up on time. as you can see by most of these comments its never the fault of passangers the fares go up and services run late its all first buses its us that make the price of petrol increase and didnt you know that when you get to a terminal point on a friday and saterday night your to take the bag of bricks from behind the drivers seat and start braking windows it all adds up
sambex wrote:
i am a glasgow bus driver and lothian buses are council run and can run at a loss :passengers stand at a bus stop for maybe 10 mins when the bus comes they start looking for their money or pass !useless ask how much the fare is then give you a tenner :useless ask to let them off at traffic lights when u refuse they call u a ****:useless just a minute amount of problems us drivers face daily
sambex the public dont care about what us bus drivers have to put up with on a daily basis as long as the bus turns up on time. as you can see by most of these comments its never the fault of passangers the fares go up and services run late its all first buses its us that make the price of petrol increase and didnt you know that when you get to a terminal point on a friday and saterday night your to take the bag of bricks from behind the drivers seat and start braking windows it all adds up
Posted by: qwertyu on 8:40pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]woody[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]roor06[/bold] wrote: Woody did you throw weegielady aff the bus for being 10p short, Ya heartless busdriver ye ... [/quote] yeah i did why should everyone else pay the correct fair and not her[/quote] Bus drivers only carryout his duties which he is paid to do. every ten pence makes a pound and every pound makes hundreds and ever hundred makes thousand and every thousands make hundred of thousands and every hundred of thousands makes millions. i do not see the problem of passengers being kicked off the bus for not paying the proper fare. Other passengers have to pay the fare rise caused by pepole not paying the correct fare.
woody wrote:
roor06 wrote: Woody did you throw weegielady aff the bus for being 10p short, Ya heartless busdriver ye ...
yeah i did why should everyone else pay the correct fair and not her
Bus drivers only carryout his duties which he is paid to do. every ten pence makes a pound and every pound makes hundreds and ever hundred makes thousand and every thousands make hundred of thousands and every hundred of thousands makes millions. i do not see the problem of passengers being kicked off the bus for not paying the proper fare. Other passengers have to pay the fare rise caused by pepole not paying the correct fare.
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 8:52pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[bold]Bus Stop Tales continued[/bold] ..lol
I was asked out by a bloke on web on somedating site ,guy drove a [bold]Lothian bus[/bold] around 2005, well he stalked me, he was built like side of one...do you know him? lol Scary cant remember his name only he had a horrid white vauxhall cavalier perhaps a P reg? with white wheels trims?
Regarding when I was 19-20 , and I got on a bus, unsure which company, but Paisley cross to go to Barshaw park the 2nd bus stop, around a mile maybe...
what happened, was, a guy had cut mr angry bus driver up and he was swearing abuse [the bus driver] arguing out cabin window to this other driver(dual carriageway) there were 2 grannies at front saying 'for goodness sake tthat is dreadful LANGUAGE son this is a disgrace ' so with venom in his voice, he demanded to know where I reckoned I plannnd to get off at as this was now Barshaw Park , said the next stop up, he says 'OFF its 30p more.'
This was a real event around 1991.
[italic]I think the driver was so **** off at the road rage incident and those two elderly ladies tutting that he picked on me as I was an easy target..I got off anyway as I didnt have 30p more, was unemployed.[/italic]
i didnt report him but with hisreaction to a traffic demeanor he seemed not the best person to be in a position of trust and needed some sort of anger management
i am pals on web with a guy who is a local
bus shunter he tells me all sorts of stories that i cant repeat about the drivers.
i usually flash them out anyway, [italic]erm car headlighst type flash I mean,[/italic] as this is what the highway code tells you, where poss give way to buses pulling out at stops. then everyone is happy!
regarding the fare thing, I too agree everyone should pay same and not be cheats around but if a wean is skint and a long way fromhome, most drivers have aheart and let them travel free, after all, the wage is NOT dependant on
howmany fares you get ie like a taxi picking up in street.bus drivers get a set wage weekly.
and so am not saying break laws let folk on free, but on certain occasions there are good guys who let weans on if their upset and have no means to pay .
[bold]its just there are a lot of angry and bad drivers and bus driving must jangle yer nerves dont take the job if you get het up in traffic![/bold]
Bus Stop Tales continued ..lol
I was asked out by a bloke on web on somedating site ,guy drove a
Lothian bus around 2005, well he stalked me, he was built like side of one...do you know him? lol Scary cant remember his name only he had a horrid white vauxhall cavalier perhaps a P reg? with white wheels trims?
Regarding when I was 19-20 , and I got on a bus, unsure which company, but Paisley cross to go to Barshaw park the 2nd bus stop, around a mile maybe...
what happened, was, a guy had cut mr angry bus driver up and he was swearing abuse arguing out cabin window to this other driver(dual carriageway) there were 2 grannies at front saying 'for goodness sake tthat is dreadful LANGUAGE son this is a disgrace ' so with venom in his voice, he demanded to know where I reckoned I plannnd to get off at as this was now Barshaw Park , said the next stop up, he says 'OFF its 30p more.'
This was a real event around 1991.
I think the driver was so **** off at the road rage incident and those two elderly ladies tutting that he picked on me as I was an easy target..I got off anyway as I didnt have 30p more, was unemployed.
i didnt report him but with hisreaction to a traffic demeanor he seemed not the best person to be in a position of trust and needed some sort of anger management
i am pals on web with a guy who is a local
bus shunter he tells me all sorts of stories that i cant repeat about the drivers.
i usually flash them out anyway,
erm car headlighst type flash I mean, as this is what the highway code tells you, where poss give way to buses pulling out at stops. then everyone is happy!
regarding the fare thing, I too agree everyone should pay same and not be cheats around but if a wean is skint and a long way fromhome, most drivers have aheart and let them travel free, after all, the wage is NOT dependant on
howmany fares you get ie like a taxi picking up in street.bus drivers get a set wage weekly.
and so am not saying break laws let folk on free, but on certain occasions there are good guys who let weans on if their upset and have no means to pay .
its just there are a lot of angry and bad drivers and bus driving must jangle yer nerves dont take the job if you get het up in traffic! Posted by: johnboy, giffnock on 9:00pm Tue 15 Apr 08
a great legacy left by margaret thatcher and her cronies privatistion and derregulated public transport system run for greedy b******s sadly still with us
a great legacy left by margaret thatcher and her cronies privatistion and derregulated public transport system run for greedy b******s sadly still with us
Posted by: DMac, Glasgow on 9:32pm Tue 15 Apr 08
We could argue about this until we're all blue in the face.
The point is, this time last year, a litre of diesel fuel was around 89p. It now costs in excess of 115p. Also stated in the article that the Scottish Executive would not be paying the extra 2p per litre grant on fuel duty, which IS being paid to bus companies in England.
Whilst First Glasgow are by no means a perfect bus operator, vandalism is getting worse in Glasgow. Every night in and around the city, over 20 windows are broken (costing around £9.000 depending on window type i.e single/double glazed). Also around 30 seat covers are torn or slashed daily. And general graffiti to interior bodywork and windows can be very costly.
Now people can complain that their bus is late in Glasgow. But the general traffic situation is nothing short of a shambles. Glasgow City Council's solution to everything seems to be - if a particular road is flowing well (and there's not many free flowing roads left in Glasgow), then a set of speed bumps or traffic lights will be added to slow things down. Extra buses have had to be added to a high percentage of First's routes as a result of this, to try and best maintain the frequency of the service due to the ever growing congestion.
The Scottish Exective's decision to allow free concessionary travel at ANY time (except night services)daily has also been a total shambles, costing the tax-payer millions of pounds. This also slows bus journeys dramatically as half the population flock onto the buses to make use of the free travel (previously 40p per journey on local services), when otherwise, they wouldn't have bothered travelling by bus. It is just an inconvenience to everybody else.
We could argue about this until we're all blue in the face.
The point is, this time last year, a litre of diesel fuel was around 89p. It now costs in excess of 115p. Also stated in the article that the Scottish Executive would not be paying the extra 2p per litre grant on fuel duty, which IS being paid to bus companies in England.
Whilst First Glasgow are by no means a perfect bus operator, vandalism is getting worse in Glasgow. Every night in and around the city, over 20 windows are broken (costing around £9.000 depending on window type i.e single/double glazed). Also around 30 seat covers are torn or slashed daily. And general graffiti to interior bodywork and windows can be very costly.
Now people can complain that their bus is late in Glasgow. But the general traffic situation is nothing short of a shambles. Glasgow City Council's solution to everything seems to be - if a particular road is flowing well (and there's not many free flowing roads left in Glasgow), then a set of speed bumps or traffic lights will be added to slow things down. Extra buses have had to be added to a high percentage of First's routes as a result of this, to try and best maintain the frequency of the service due to the ever growing congestion.
The Scottish Exective's decision to allow free concessionary travel at ANY time (except night services)daily has also been a total shambles, costing the tax-payer millions of pounds. This also slows bus journeys dramatically as half the population flock onto the buses to make use of the free travel (previously 40p per journey on local services), when otherwise, they wouldn't have bothered travelling by bus. It is just an inconvenience to everybody else.
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 10:01pm Tue 15 Apr 08
awrite dmac, are you a bus driver?
cost of everything has gone up ,crap innit?
is firstbus related to the railway folk first scotrail , they seem to be the better firm to work for.
wonder which firms are are the bad ones as they give all the folk the same bad reputation.
those wee localised minibus type ones I see here, company unknown, seem to have escapees fae barlinnie driving them wi probably no psv licence lol just an observation
[bold]THE VALUE OF FLASHING[/bold] ! i always wait for a [italic]hazzard warning light flash acknowledgment[/italic] when i flash ye oot! cos that is what makes a good bus driver,LOL, am I allowed to say I like to flash a bit of leg anaw if I draw alongside a no bad lookin male bus driver.lol
awrite dmac, are you a bus driver?
cost of everything has gone up ,crap innit?
is firstbus related to the railway folk first scotrail , they seem to be the better firm to work for.
wonder which firms are are the bad ones as they give all the folk the same bad reputation.
those wee localised minibus type ones I see here, company unknown, seem to have escapees fae barlinnie driving them wi probably no psv licence lol just an observation
THE VALUE OF FLASHING ! i always wait for a
hazzard warning light flash acknowledgment when i flash ye oot! cos that is what makes a good bus driver,LOL, am I allowed to say I like to flash a bit of leg anaw if I draw alongside a no bad lookin male bus driver.lol
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 10:17pm Tue 15 Apr 08
perhaps if 1st bus took some of the buses off the road there would be less conjestion, less traffic jams a saving on pollution and a saving on fuel not only to themselves but to all stuck behind them, Union Street and Hope Street simply represent a 1st bus garage, I wonder that the monopoly commission hasn't taken an interest before this
perhaps if 1st bus took some of the buses off the road there would be less conjestion, less traffic jams a saving on pollution and a saving on fuel not only to themselves but to all stuck behind them, Union Street and Hope Street simply represent a 1st bus garage, I wonder that the monopoly commission hasn't taken an interest before this
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 11:02pm Tue 15 Apr 08
ps
can someone lend me 10p for bus fare home??
[italic]oops in todays monetary terms I mean £6.98[/italic]
lol
ps
can someone lend me 10p for bus fare home??
oops in todays monetary terms I mean £6.98
lol
Posted by: Donny, Glasgow on 9:05am Wed 16 Apr 08
I cannot wait to see the response to this.....
Taxi tariff increase is overdue!!
Since we are the cheapest "city" hack in the UK, we need at least 6% to get us in line with rising costs.
WE DO NOT GET FUEL SUBSIDIES!!!
Also, we are currently 73p below the national UK average for a 2 mile hire. Our 10p extra per person on the meter has been like that since 1984...in Aberdeen the entire tariff increases by 50% per 3rd, 4th or 5th passenger compared with our 10p per person....yes a grand total of 30p.
I had a punter in the taxi who was from edinburgh that burst out laughing at the fact she was sitting in a hack that clocked up 3 miles, sat in traffic and 22 minutes later was still under £8.
4 people can get in a taxi "cheaper" than what it costs now to take a bus!!
GREAT STUFF if the buses put there prices up then everyone can now start taking a "cheap" black hack instead....
Oh it costs £3 or £3.50 the minute your in a Private whereas we are £2.
Oh a Skoda Octavia costs £14000. A London Taxi costs £30000 plus another £40000 for the plate...grand total £70000!!!
The glesga public have NO IDEA how good you got it here!!
I cannot wait to see the response to this.....
Taxi tariff increase is overdue!!
Since we are the cheapest "city" hack in the UK, we need at least 6% to get us in line with rising costs.
WE DO NOT GET FUEL SUBSIDIES!!!
Also, we are currently 73p below the national UK average for a 2 mile hire. Our 10p extra per person on the meter has been like that since 1984...in Aberdeen the entire tariff increases by 50% per 3rd, 4th or 5th passenger compared with our 10p per person....yes a grand total of 30p.
I had a punter in the taxi who was from edinburgh that burst out laughing at the fact she was sitting in a hack that clocked up 3 miles, sat in traffic and 22 minutes later was still under £8.
4 people can get in a taxi "cheaper" than what it costs now to take a bus!!
GREAT STUFF if the buses put there prices up then everyone can now start taking a "cheap" black hack instead....
Oh it costs £3 or £3.50 the minute your in a Private whereas we are £2.
Oh a Skoda Octavia costs £14000. A London Taxi costs £30000 plus another £40000 for the plate...grand total £70000!!!
The glesga public have NO IDEA how good you got it here!!
Posted by: weegielady, glasgow on 9:42am Wed 16 Apr 08
donny, i agree fares will rise with cost of inflation...
a taxi is a black traditional cabin with a wee window that takes 5 passengers the term 'private hire' is not a taxi, its is hiring of a private car with some wee jaky with a substandard motor [usually] its very uncomfy in a strangers car making small talk, and they dont sit the taxi test they just get a licence and a A1 of glasgow.
i live outside glasgow and would have to ring one i have 2 brothers who drive hackneys nightshift in glasgow.and some more relatives drive them as well. and jo reid LOL
at least they are safe with the window, safety is an issue in a car converted to ferry folk in.
taxi drivers are self employed and may have 'poor' weeks , bus drivers get same wage each week and probably overtime. at least a taxi takes you to your door and there is space for bags/weans/shopping/
luggage/wheelchairs.
there are so many taxis buses etc around, that am surprised any taxi drivers make much money at aw.
i would rather take a proper black (maybe silver maybe red...maybe white like that hideous one my relation had in 1990 for city of culture lol?)taxi as ring a wee corrupt drug dealing private hire taxi firm any day
just I cant hail a taxi in street as am outside the glasgow border
donny, i agree fares will rise with cost of inflation...
a taxi is a black traditional cabin with a wee window that takes 5 passengers the term 'private hire' is not a taxi, its is hiring of a private car with some wee jaky with a substandard motor its very uncomfy in a strangers car making small talk, and they dont sit the taxi test they just get a licence and a A1 of glasgow.
i live outside glasgow and would have to ring one i have 2 brothers who drive hackneys nightshift in glasgow.and some more relatives drive them as well. and jo reid LOL
at least they are safe with the window, safety is an issue in a car converted to ferry folk in.
taxi drivers are self employed and may have 'poor' weeks , bus drivers get same wage each week and probably overtime. at least a taxi takes you to your door and there is space for bags/weans/shopping/
luggage/wheelchairs.
there are so many taxis buses etc around, that am surprised any taxi drivers make much money at aw.
i would rather take a proper black (maybe silver maybe red...maybe white like that hideous one my relation had in 1990 for city of culture lol?)taxi as ring a wee corrupt drug dealing private hire taxi firm any day
just I cant hail a taxi in street as am outside the glasgow border
Posted by: Mazfi, Motherwell on 10:09am Wed 16 Apr 08
Before slapping yet another increase onto already fare paying passengers I think areas of non paying should be addressed.
Depending on size, prams and buggies can sometimes take up as much as 3 seat spaces and yet no fare is applied. The criteria for no fare applying for prams or buggies was these were expected to be folded and placed in the luggage compartment. I object to paying full fare and then having to stand with heavy or awkward shopping whilst seat spaces are occupied by prams for which no charge is applied. Applying a 'flat' fare for prams and buggies might go some way to meeting the extra costs they are saying justifies the proposed increases.
What exactly is the criteria for issuing free bus passes for health reasons? Example, a young woman in her mid 30s, wearing an Asda uniform and running for a bus then flashes a 'free' bus pass. I don't think so. I have also seen apparently healthy young men and women with a free bus pass and stating 'and companion' and both bus pass holder and companion are very obviously under the influence of some substance. Surely these types of passes should only be issued to people with severe learning or walking difficulties.
Before slapping yet another increase onto already fare paying passengers I think areas of non paying should be addressed.
Depending on size, prams and buggies can sometimes take up as much as 3 seat spaces and yet no fare is applied. The criteria for no fare applying for prams or buggies was these were expected to be folded and placed in the luggage compartment. I object to paying full fare and then having to stand with heavy or awkward shopping whilst seat spaces are occupied by prams for which no charge is applied. Applying a 'flat' fare for prams and buggies might go some way to meeting the extra costs they are saying justifies the proposed increases.
What exactly is the criteria for issuing free bus passes for health reasons? Example, a young woman in her mid 30s, wearing an Asda uniform and running for a bus then flashes a 'free' bus pass. I don't think so. I have also seen apparently healthy young men and women with a free bus pass and stating 'and companion' and both bus pass holder and companion are very obviously under the influence of some substance. Surely these types of passes should only be issued to people with severe learning or walking difficulties.
Posted by: emma, Glasgow on 11:44am Wed 16 Apr 08
Glaswegians are manky, get inspectors on the bus, get the drivers to drive - that doesnt mean break heavily,speed or accelerate at 200mph. The bus is the drivers responsibility - clean it up at the terminus ya lazy, grumpy faced bugger. No one forced you to drive a bus, just do your job properly
and learn to spell too its FARE, not fair!
Glaswegians are manky, get inspectors on the bus, get the drivers to drive - that doesnt mean break heavily,speed or accelerate at 200mph. The bus is the drivers responsibility - clean it up at the terminus ya lazy, grumpy faced bugger. No one forced you to drive a bus, just do your job properly
and learn to spell too its FARE, not fair!
Posted by: glamkitty, Glasgow on 11:48am Wed 16 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Mazfi[/bold] wrote:
Before slapping yet another increase onto already fare paying passengers I think areas of non paying should be addressed. Depending on size, prams and buggies can sometimes take up as much as 3 seat spaces and yet no fare is applied. The criteria for no fare applying for prams or buggies was these were expected to be folded and placed in the luggage compartment. I object to paying full fare and then having to stand with heavy or awkward shopping whilst seat spaces are occupied by prams for which no charge is applied. Applying a 'flat' fare for prams and buggies might go some way to meeting the extra costs they are saying justifies the proposed increases. What exactly is the criteria for issuing free bus passes for health reasons? Example, a young woman in her
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