Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:00am Mon 21 Apr 08
Declining city hotel occupancy rates, public services for vulnerable groups cutback, job threats to the IFSD, u-turns on parks' strategy, fears of sex traffic fears during the Diddy Games, rising violent crime in the city centre, council jobs at threat, city schools performance record the worst in the country... [italic]and we're supposed to be worried about somebody dropping a fag in the street because there are no suitable bins available[/italic] ???
Declining city hotel occupancy rates, public services for vulnerable groups cutback, job threats to the IFSD, u-turns on parks' strategy, fears of sex traffic fears during the Diddy Games, rising violent crime in the city centre, council jobs at threat, city schools performance record the worst in the country...
and we're supposed to be worried about somebody dropping a fag in the street because there are no suitable bins available ???
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 11:11am Mon 21 Apr 08
Unbelieveable.
What next, someone sneezing in a threatening manner?
Glasgow City Council - an absolute joke.
Unbelieveable.
What next, someone sneezing in a threatening manner?
Glasgow City Council - an absolute joke.
Posted by: martin, Glasgow on 11:12am Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
Declining city hotel occupancy rates, public services for vulnerable groups cutback, job threats to the IFSD, u-turns on parks' strategy, fears of sex traffic fears during the Diddy Games, rising violent crime in the city centre, council jobs at threat, city schools performance record the worst in the country... [italic]and we're supposed to be worried about somebody dropping a fag in the street because there are no suitable bins available[/italic] ???[/quote] There are suitable bins available in the areas mentioned in the story, I just wish these were emptied more often. A discarded cigarette butt may not seem like much but they all mount up and make the city look dirty.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Declining city hotel occupancy rates, public services for vulnerable groups cutback, job threats to the IFSD, u-turns on parks' strategy, fears of sex traffic fears during the Diddy Games, rising violent crime in the city centre, council jobs at threat, city schools performance record the worst in the country... and we're supposed to be worried about somebody dropping a fag in the street because there are no suitable bins available ???
There are suitable bins available in the areas mentioned in the story, I just wish these were emptied more often. A discarded cigarette butt may not seem like much but they all mount up and make the city look dirty.
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 11:21am Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]martin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote: Declining city hotel occupancy rates, public services for vulnerable groups cutback, job threats to the IFSD, u-turns on parks' strategy, fears of sex traffic fears during the Diddy Games, rising violent crime in the city centre, council jobs at threat, city schools performance record the worst in the country... [italic]and we're supposed to be worried about somebody dropping a fag in the street because there are no suitable bins available[/italic] ???[/quote] There are suitable bins available in the areas mentioned in the story, I just wish these were emptied more often. A discarded cigarette butt may not seem like much but they all mount up and make the city look dirty. [/quote] What are you talking about? Name me a place in Glasgow decorated with these mountainesque piles of fag butts!
It's bad enough the pc brigade trying to marginalise smoking in public places, now they want to blame smokers for litter!
Get a grip.
martin wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote: Declining city hotel occupancy rates, public services for vulnerable groups cutback, job threats to the IFSD, u-turns on parks' strategy, fears of sex traffic fears during the Diddy Games, rising violent crime in the city centre, council jobs at threat, city schools performance record the worst in the country... and we're supposed to be worried about somebody dropping a fag in the street because there are no suitable bins available ???
There are suitable bins available in the areas mentioned in the story, I just wish these were emptied more often. A discarded cigarette butt may not seem like much but they all mount up and make the city look dirty.
What are you talking about? Name me a place in Glasgow decorated with these mountainesque piles of fag butts!
It's bad enough the pc brigade trying to marginalise smoking in public places, now they want to blame smokers for litter!
Get a grip.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 11:40am Mon 21 Apr 08
Criminalising people in Glasgow for dropping a cigarette end is a bit exterme. Meanwhile the East and North of the city are being run by mafia type families running drugs and guns.
Glad to see the police and GCC have their priorities right.
These litter wardens have not made one blind bit of difference. Glasgow's still a manky hole.
Criminalising people in Glasgow for dropping a cigarette end is a bit exterme. Meanwhile the East and North of the city are being run by mafia type families running drugs and guns.
Glad to see the police and GCC have their priorities right.
These litter wardens have not made one blind bit of difference. Glasgow's still a manky hole.
Posted by: Al, Airdrie on 11:46am Mon 21 Apr 08
The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole."
It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home!
The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole."
It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:54am Mon 21 Apr 08
My mate got fined for apparently throwing butt on street and they had it on CCTV,he was forced to pay fine,He asked them to Pleae show the cctv .But police just thought he was being silly etc etc etc,he has never smoked a day in his life!
My mate got fined for apparently throwing butt on street and they had it on CCTV,he was forced to pay fine,He asked them to Pleae show the cctv .But police just thought he was being silly etc etc etc,he has never smoked a day in his life!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:00pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Al[/bold] wrote:
The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole."
It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home![/quote] The bins are almost constantly full, especially the fag bits on top - next time you pass The Goose on Union Street have a wee gander at the bin and you'll see what I mean.
If I was in court for this crap, I would cite SNP MSP Sandra White as a witness to the fact that bins were too full to use, as she was quoted in the ET in December last year saying:
[quote]"I saw lots of people trying to use bins, but couldn't because they were too full."[/quote]
As for taking fag ends home - GEEZABREK!
Al wrote:
The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole."
It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home!
The bins are almost constantly full, especially the fag bits on top - next time you pass The Goose on Union Street have a wee gander at the bin and you'll see what I mean.
If I was in court for this crap, I would cite SNP MSP Sandra White as a witness to the fact that bins were too full to use, as she was quoted in the ET in December last year saying:
"I saw lots of people trying to use bins, but couldn't because they were too full."
As for taking fag ends home - GEEZABREK!
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 12:15pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
My mate got fined for apparently throwing butt on street and they had it on CCTV,he was forced to pay fine,He asked them to Pleae show the cctv .But police just thought he was being silly etc etc etc,he has never smoked a day in his life! [/quote] Under the Data Protection Act, any image of a person caught on cctv has to be surrendered to that person for a 'reasonable' charge if that person asks. Your mate should have pursued it.
jim wrote:
My mate got fined for apparently throwing butt on street and they had it on CCTV,he was forced to pay fine,He asked them to Pleae show the cctv .But police just thought he was being silly etc etc etc,he has never smoked a day in his life!
Under the Data Protection Act, any image of a person caught on cctv has to be surrendered to that person for a 'reasonable' charge if that person asks. Your mate should have pursued it.
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 12:20pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Al[/bold] wrote:
The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole." It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home![/quote] Bit late for that. This city is a third-world cesspit, and it's not because of a few fag-butts. See successive Glasgow City Councils and their lack of investment, oversight and foresight.
Al wrote:
The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole." It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home!
Bit late for that. This city is a third-world cesspit, and it's not because of a few fag-butts. See successive Glasgow City Councils and their lack of investment, oversight and foresight.
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 12:31pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Eleven other people failed to turn up for their court hearings - all for dropping cigarette butts - and warrants were issued for their arrest.
Way to go Glasgow council,take more police officers off the street tracking down these master criminals..
Its also so easy to give a false name & for somebody innocent to be dragged up for this, not a lot of thought put into this idea, was there Mr Purcell
Eleven other people failed to turn up for their court hearings - all for dropping cigarette butts - and warrants were issued for their arrest.
Way to go Glasgow council,take more police officers off the street tracking down these master criminals..
Its also so easy to give a false name & for somebody innocent to be dragged up for this, not a lot of thought put into this idea, was there Mr Purcell
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:35pm Mon 21 Apr 08
He tried to pusue it.But Police didnt want anything to do with it (They were too busy) when he wrote to council they said he should lodge a complaint with police!Crazy,Conside
ring he doesnt smoke.
He tried to pusue it.But Police didnt want anything to do with it (They were too busy) when he wrote to council they said he should lodge a complaint with police!Crazy,Conside
ring he doesnt smoke.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 12:37pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Ruddie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Al[/bold] wrote: The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole." It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home![/quote] Bit late for that. This city is a third-world cesspit, and it's not because of a few fag-butts. See successive Glasgow City Councils and their lack of investment, oversight and foresight.[/quote] WELL SAID!
Ruddie wrote:
Al wrote: The reason for the litter laws is to stop the city being a "manky hole." It's all very simple, use the bins provided, if they are full, take your litter home!
Bit late for that. This city is a third-world cesspit, and it's not because of a few fag-butts. See successive Glasgow City Councils and their lack of investment, oversight and foresight.
WELL SAID!
Posted by: edders, down souf on 1:01pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Call it "petty", and that the cooncil/police shld be focused on the big stuff but at the end of the day I really cant see why you would want to throw rubbish/fag ends on the street... surely people can have a little bit of pride and decency and find a bin to chuck their garbage. You would think it was like asking folk to solve a very difficult math problem..its not, "you have rubbish, locate a bin, deposit in bin, problem solved"... come one people it aint that hard!
Call it "petty", and that the cooncil/police shld be focused on the big stuff but at the end of the day I really cant see why you would want to throw rubbish/fag ends on the street... surely people can have a little bit of pride and decency and find a bin to chuck their garbage. You would think it was like asking folk to solve a very difficult math problem..its not, "you have rubbish, locate a bin, deposit in bin, problem solved"... come one people it aint that hard!
Posted by: Ladofglas25, Glasgow on 1:29pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]edders[/bold] wrote:
Call it "petty", and that the cooncil/police shld be focused on the big stuff but at the end of the day I really cant see why you would want to throw rubbish/fag ends on the street... surely people can have a little bit of pride and decency and find a bin to chuck their garbage. You would think it was like asking folk to solve a very difficult math problem..its not, "you have rubbish, locate a bin, deposit in bin, problem solved"... come one people it aint that hard! [/quote] totaly agree!, ive seen people dressed in suits to rags just toss their crap at their feet then moan about how dirty the place is!
the fact of the matter is there are 2 reasons why glasgow is in the state it is,
1. the majority people DO NOT give a monkeys they have no pride and certainly no decency, which is visable everyday of the week! they also were never taught by their parents how to use a bin when outside there own house.
2. companies and shops in glasgow are the biggest culprits, the amount of overflowing bins and bags that line the streets in town is a total disgrace! i was in town yesterday and on union st, queen st, is minging.
edders wrote:
Call it "petty", and that the cooncil/police shld be focused on the big stuff but at the end of the day I really cant see why you would want to throw rubbish/fag ends on the street... surely people can have a little bit of pride and decency and find a bin to chuck their garbage. You would think it was like asking folk to solve a very difficult math problem..its not, "you have rubbish, locate a bin, deposit in bin, problem solved"... come one people it aint that hard!
totaly agree!, ive seen people dressed in suits to rags just toss their crap at their feet then moan about how dirty the place is!
the fact of the matter is there are 2 reasons why glasgow is in the state it is,
1. the majority people DO NOT give a monkeys they have no pride and certainly no decency, which is visable everyday of the week! they also were never taught by their parents how to use a bin when outside there own house.
2. companies and shops in glasgow are the biggest culprits, the amount of overflowing bins and bags that line the streets in town is a total disgrace! i was in town yesterday and on union st, queen st, is minging.
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 1:47pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
He tried to pusue it.But Police didnt want anything to do with it (They were too busy) when he wrote to council they said he should lodge a complaint with police!Crazy,Conside ring he doesnt smoke.[/quote] In that case, they were perverting the course of justice by refusing to assist in due process. Their reluctance would rule any 'offence' inadmissable as they were failing to provide evidence in line with Habeus Corpus.
jim wrote:
He tried to pusue it.But Police didnt want anything to do with it (They were too busy) when he wrote to council they said he should lodge a complaint with police!Crazy,Conside ring he doesnt smoke.
In that case, they were perverting the course of justice by refusing to assist in due process. Their reluctance would rule any 'offence' inadmissable as they were failing to provide evidence in line with Habeus Corpus.
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 1:52pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Why is the Evening Times publishing the names and addresses of the 'culprits' anyway?
Evening Times = The Cooncil Pravda?
Why is the Evening Times publishing the names and addresses of the 'culprits' anyway?
Evening Times = The Cooncil Pravda?
Posted by: puskas, East Kilbride on 1:55pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]edders[/bold] wrote:
Call it "petty", and that the cooncil/police shld be focused on the big stuff but at the end of the day I really cant see why you would want to throw rubbish/fag ends on the street... surely people can have a little bit of pride and decency and find a bin to chuck their garbage. You would think it was like asking folk to solve a very difficult math problem..its not, "you have rubbish, locate a bin, deposit in bin, problem solved"... come one people it aint that hard! [/quote] AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.
Other valid points from the topic but we have to start cleaning the city and elsewhere.
Singapore has the right idea .... No chewing gum stains or litter their.
edders wrote:
Call it "petty", and that the cooncil/police shld be focused on the big stuff but at the end of the day I really cant see why you would want to throw rubbish/fag ends on the street... surely people can have a little bit of pride and decency and find a bin to chuck their garbage. You would think it was like asking folk to solve a very difficult math problem..its not, "you have rubbish, locate a bin, deposit in bin, problem solved"... come one people it aint that hard!
AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.
Other valid points from the topic but we have to start cleaning the city and elsewhere.
Singapore has the right idea .... No chewing gum stains or litter their.
Posted by: Happy Harry, Glasgow on 2:03pm Mon 21 Apr 08
It's quite amazing how pathetic some people can be. If it's your litter/ fag ends then take responsibility for it. Why is it the councils responsibility to have someone walk along behind you picking up your rubbish. What else do you want, a Direct and Care package so can get someone round to wipe your ar*e or do you still get you mammys to do that for you.
It's quite amazing how pathetic some people can be. If it's your litter/ fag ends then take responsibility for it. Why is it the councils responsibility to have someone walk along behind you picking up your rubbish. What else do you want, a Direct and Care package so can get someone round to wipe your ar*e or do you still get you mammys to do that for you.
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 2:10pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Ruddie[/bold] wrote:
Why is the Evening Times publishing the names and addresses of the 'culprits' anyway? Evening Times = The Cooncil Pravda?[/quote] I was wondering that too.
Does this excuse for a news paper think that
anyone gives a toss what their labour puppets tell them to print.
This is another chance for Purcell to spout more crap and threaten law abiding citizens with his zero tolerance big mouth, that even if you drop something unintentionaly you will be done over by the bullying morons at GCC.
Im glad I dont waste good money on this labour conrtolled rag.
Ruddie wrote:
Why is the Evening Times publishing the names and addresses of the 'culprits' anyway? Evening Times = The Cooncil Pravda?
I was wondering that too.
Does this excuse for a news paper think that
anyone gives a toss what their labour puppets tell them to print.
This is another chance for Purcell to spout more crap and threaten law abiding citizens with his zero tolerance big mouth, that even if you drop something unintentionaly you will be done over by the bullying morons at GCC.
Im glad I dont waste good money on this labour conrtolled rag.
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 2:11pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Do we not have street-sweepers anymore? Extrapolating the logic, surely uber-clean streets would create redundancies?
Let's face it, it's not as if you have to wade through inches of garbage on the streets. A few fag butts and crisp packets here and there, big deal. If that's all you have to worry about in life, you're not doing too badly.
It's called rubish. It is there, it always has been there, it always will be there. Even if every single person in the city used bins, there would still be random rubbish flying about the streets whiped up from business, vehicles and so on and blown around the streets, thereby necessitating the need for street-sweepers, so what's the problem?
For me, I think it is more worrying that a national newspaper is producing 'name and shame' propaganda.
Do we not have street-sweepers anymore? Extrapolating the logic, surely uber-clean streets would create redundancies?
Let's face it, it's not as if you have to wade through inches of garbage on the streets. A few fag butts and crisp packets here and there, big deal. If that's all you have to worry about in life, you're not doing too badly.
It's called rubish. It is there, it always has been there, it always will be there. Even if every single person in the city used bins, there would still be random rubbish flying about the streets whiped up from business, vehicles and so on and blown around the streets, thereby necessitating the need for street-sweepers, so what's the problem?
For me, I think it is more worrying that a national newspaper is producing 'name and shame' propaganda.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:34pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote]AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.[/quote]
No one is disagreeing. Glasgow is a manky dirty middin, it always has been. You know when you're entering Glasgow with all the litter on the grass verges beside the motorways.
But if resources are finite as the council would have us believe then perhaps those resources should be channelled in another direction, ie education on littering and employing street sweepers rather than street snoopers. What kind of society are we leaving behind us?
I'd rather GCC had a complete gutting of the Glasgow area, cleaning up and then if people see it clean, they might keep it that way. But when you see that state it's in, then it's no wonder the morons in society leave their litter behind them.
AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.
No one is disagreeing. Glasgow is a manky dirty middin, it always has been. You know when you're entering Glasgow with all the litter on the grass verges beside the motorways.
But if resources are finite as the council would have us believe then perhaps those resources should be channelled in another direction, ie education on littering and employing street sweepers rather than street snoopers. What kind of society are we leaving behind us?
I'd rather GCC had a complete gutting of the Glasgow area, cleaning up and then if people see it clean, they might keep it that way. But when you see that state it's in, then it's no wonder the morons in society leave their litter behind them.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:02pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
[quote]AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.[/quote]
No one is disagreeing. Glasgow is a manky dirty middin, it always has been. You know when you're entering Glasgow with all the litter on the grass verges beside the motorways.
But if resources are finite as the council would have us believe then perhaps those resources should be channelled in another direction, ie education on littering and employing street sweepers rather than street snoopers. What kind of society are we leaving behind us?
I'd rather GCC had a complete gutting of the Glasgow area, cleaning up and then if people see it clean, they might keep it that way. But when you see that state it's in, then it's no wonder the morons in society leave their litter behind them.[/quote] [bold]Hear, hear Stewie, it goes without saying that we all want clean streets, but wasting £5 MILLION on a tacky, poorly-planned and badly-implemented scheme just to boost the faltering ego of city council leader who is completely out-of-touch with the real needs of the city is an absolute nonsense.[/bold]
Stewie Griffin wrote:
AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.
No one is disagreeing. Glasgow is a manky dirty middin, it always has been. You know when you're entering Glasgow with all the litter on the grass verges beside the motorways.
But if resources are finite as the council would have us believe then perhaps those resources should be channelled in another direction, ie education on littering and employing street sweepers rather than street snoopers. What kind of society are we leaving behind us?
I'd rather GCC had a complete gutting of the Glasgow area, cleaning up and then if people see it clean, they might keep it that way. But when you see that state it's in, then it's no wonder the morons in society leave their litter behind them.
Hear, hear Stewie, it goes without saying that we all want clean streets, but wasting £5 MILLION on a tacky, poorly-planned and badly-implemented scheme just to boost the faltering ego of city council leader who is completely out-of-touch with the real needs of the city is an absolute nonsense. Posted by: Happy Harry, Glasgow on 3:05pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
[quote]AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.[/quote] No one is disagreeing. Glasgow is a manky dirty middin, it always has been. You know when you're entering Glasgow with all the litter on the grass verges beside the motorways. But if resources are finite as the council would have us believe then perhaps those resources should be channelled in another direction, ie education on littering and employing street sweepers rather than street snoopers. What kind of society are we leaving behind us? I'd rather GCC had a complete gutting of the Glasgow area, cleaning up and then if people see it clean, they might keep it that way. But when you see that state it's in, then it's no wonder the morons in society leave their litter behind them.[/quote] Education on littering?
Schools have been telling children that dropping litter is wrong for decades. There has been endless public campaigns. The reason these don't work is people like you who think it is the councils job to clearup litter. If people didn't drop it we wouldn't have the problem. The only way stop this is punishing the individals responsible and force them to take responsibility for their acions. If people don't want a nanny state they need act like grown ups in the first place.
Stewie Griffin wrote:
AGREED... Anyone who wishes to disagree I would love to see the inside of their homes.
No one is disagreeing. Glasgow is a manky dirty middin, it always has been. You know when you're entering Glasgow with all the litter on the grass verges beside the motorways. But if resources are finite as the council would have us believe then perhaps those resources should be channelled in another direction, ie education on littering and employing street sweepers rather than street snoopers. What kind of society are we leaving behind us? I'd rather GCC had a complete gutting of the Glasgow area, cleaning up and then if people see it clean, they might keep it that way. But when you see that state it's in, then it's no wonder the morons in society leave their litter behind them.
Education on littering?
Schools have been telling children that dropping litter is wrong for decades. There has been endless public campaigns. The reason these don't work is people like you who think it is the councils job to clearup litter. If people didn't drop it we wouldn't have the problem. The only way stop this is punishing the individals responsible and force them to take responsibility for their acions. If people don't want a nanny state they need act like grown ups in the first place.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 3:10pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote]Schools have been telling children that dropping litter is wrong for decades[/quote]
Well, obviously that education is wrong. But to be honest I was taught by my mother that dropping litter was wrong and even today wouldn't dream of it.
It's all about how you're brought up. And if the moron adults think it's okay, then moron children will too. But the GCC approach is all wrong.
Perhaps if they emptied a few bins every now and then, litter would not be overflowing out of them. (Mr Purcell please note that as the bin in Cumbernauld Road at the bingo hall hasn't been emptied for weeks).
Schools have been telling children that dropping litter is wrong for decades
Well, obviously that education is wrong. But to be honest I was taught by my mother that dropping litter was wrong and even today wouldn't dream of it.
It's all about how you're brought up. And if the moron adults think it's okay, then moron children will too. But the GCC approach is all wrong.
Perhaps if they emptied a few bins every now and then, litter would not be overflowing out of them. (Mr Purcell please note that as the bin in Cumbernauld Road at the bingo hall hasn't been emptied for weeks).
Posted by: WeeNed, Glesga on 3:50pm Mon 21 Apr 08
seen as wi know where they stey, a fink wi shood go roon an thro a fag butt right ootside thur hoose an see how they like it.
the ashtrays oan the bins ur a guid idea anywi, its like a wan stop shop fur all yer tramps smokin needs.
seen as wi know where they stey, a fink wi shood go roon an thro a fag butt right ootside thur hoose an see how they like it.
the ashtrays oan the bins ur a guid idea anywi, its like a wan stop shop fur all yer tramps smokin needs.
Posted by: Seymour Hope, Glasgow on 3:50pm Mon 21 Apr 08
All of you who say its just trivial probably claim to love your country when it suits you. If you love your country and want to be proud of it don't drop your Crap all over it.
All of you who say its just trivial probably claim to love your country when it suits you. If you love your country and want to be proud of it don't drop your Crap all over it.
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 4:39pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Dropping litter has always been an offence in the eyes of the law but come on people we are talking fag butts.
All those on here who agree that it is right to prosecute those who have dropped a butt can we then take it that you live your life without breaking any laws whatsoever?..
We are making criminals out of people who probably without thinking tossed a bit of paper or cig butt away..
Surely the sensible thing would be to caution these folk instead of dragging them through the courts,wasting thousands of £s not to mention court & police hours..
So when you house is robbed or car stolen dont be complaining when the old Bill dont have enough man power or the courts let the offender off because they are too busy dealing with litter louts..
Dropping litter has always been an offence in the eyes of the law but come on people we are talking fag butts.
All those on here who agree that it is right to prosecute those who have dropped a butt can we then take it that you live your life without breaking any laws whatsoever?..
We are making criminals out of people who probably without thinking tossed a bit of paper or cig butt away..
Surely the sensible thing would be to caution these folk instead of dragging them through the courts,wasting thousands of £s not to mention court & police hours..
So when you house is robbed or car stolen dont be complaining when the old Bill dont have enough man power or the courts let the offender off because they are too busy dealing with litter louts..
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 4:46pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote]So when you house is robbed or car stolen dont be complaining when the old Bill dont have enough man power or the courts let the offender off because they are too busy dealing with litter louts..[/quote]
Exactly. It's utterly pitiful. Anyone who has done jury duty recently would have their eyes open to the amount of scum getting away with all sorts.
So when you house is robbed or car stolen dont be complaining when the old Bill dont have enough man power or the courts let the offender off because they are too busy dealing with litter louts..
Exactly. It's utterly pitiful. Anyone who has done jury duty recently would have their eyes open to the amount of scum getting away with all sorts.
Posted by: aeu99217, Cessnock on 5:03pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Zero tolerance of all crime should be the policy- look at the success in New York. It bamboozles me that people are actually complaining about an attempt to clean up the streets of the city. These people have utter contempt for a council that is attempting to make head way into this city's extensive problems. May i ask, if you are the fountain of all solutuons why dont you get off your a*** and share your inherent ontological understanding of the route to Utopia?
Zero tolerance of all crime should be the policy- look at the success in New York. It bamboozles me that people are actually complaining about an attempt to clean up the streets of the city. These people have utter contempt for a council that is attempting to make head way into this city's extensive problems. May i ask, if you are the fountain of all solutuons why dont you get off your a*** and share your inherent ontological understanding of the route to Utopia?
Posted by: Ruddie, Glasgow on 5:22pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Seymour Hope[/bold] wrote:
All of you who say its just trivial probably claim to love your country when it suits you. If you love your country and want to be proud of it don't drop your Crap all over it.[/quote] What about me? I hate this sh*thole of a country.
(Awaits 'then why don't you move?' comments)
Seymour Hope wrote:
All of you who say its just trivial probably claim to love your country when it suits you. If you love your country and want to be proud of it don't drop your Crap all over it.
What about me? I hate this sh*thole of a country.
(Awaits 'then why don't you move?' comments)
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 5:27pm Mon 21 Apr 08
aeu99217, Cessnock wrote:
[quote]These people have utter contempt for a council that...[/quote]
[bold]I for one plead guilty to this charge sir... wit's ma fine?[/bold]
aeu99217, Cessnock wrote:
These people have utter contempt for a council that...
I for one plead guilty to this charge sir... wit's ma fine? Posted by: aeu99217, Cessnock on 5:27pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Ruddie you are a sad and bitter person. i do feel sorry for you that you dont possess the faculties to improve your own situation despite your obvious desire to
Ruddie you are a sad and bitter person. i do feel sorry for you that you dont possess the faculties to improve your own situation despite your obvious desire to
Posted by: HOLY WILLIE, GLASGOW on 5:44pm Mon 21 Apr 08
People who discard fag buts on to the pavement deserve to be fined,i smoke but always throw my fag out the car window on to the road where it does no harm.If more people were as considerate as myself our pavements would be much cleaner
People who discard fag buts on to the pavement deserve to be fined,i smoke but always throw my fag out the car window on to the road where it does no harm.If more people were as considerate as myself our pavements would be much cleaner
Posted by: aeu99217, Cessnock on 5:53pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
aeu99217, Cessnock wrote: [quote]These people have utter contempt for a council that...[/quote] [bold]I for one plead guilty to this charge sir... wit's ma fine?[/bold] [/quote] a basic course in spelling
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
aeu99217, Cessnock wrote: These people have utter contempt for a council that...
I for one plead guilty to this charge sir... wit's ma fine?
a basic course in spelling
Posted by: alasdairbt, Glasgow on 5:59pm Mon 21 Apr 08
CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!![bold]bold[/bold] .
CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!! .
Posted by: George Brown, Erskine on 6:29pm Mon 21 Apr 08
I am sure the wardens would have a field day out here! It is becomming an achievement to take a dog for a walk without getting a cut paw from footpaths paved with broken bottled glass and although dog owners are expected to clear up after their pets, here we find school paths paved with 'manure' courtesy of a nearby riding school whose riders seem quite oblivious and unconcerned to the health hazards their steeds present as they leave a token of their last meal behind them,
I am all for some-one starting a glue factory next door to the riding stables there's no shortage of raw materiel there
I am sure the wardens would have a field day out here! It is becomming an achievement to take a dog for a walk without getting a cut paw from footpaths paved with broken bottled glass and although dog owners are expected to clear up after their pets, here we find school paths paved with 'manure' courtesy of a nearby riding school whose riders seem quite oblivious and unconcerned to the health hazards their steeds present as they leave a token of their last meal behind them,
I am all for some-one starting a glue factory next door to the riding stables there's no shortage of raw materiel there
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 6:47pm Mon 21 Apr 08
It seems a bit odd that the vast majority of offenders appear to be female ...
It seems a bit odd that the vast majority of offenders appear to be female ...
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 8:17pm Mon 21 Apr 08
what about the travelers ashtray? it opens up and even has a place to lay your cigarette, when finished you just crush the cigarette then close the lid down and it snaps shut, now there is an idea for some of our more entrepreneur citizens, aw naw noo i have gave these wee foreigners a hint and they will be making millions selling them to us. well as holy wully says "i give all my doubts to jesus, ahm awright!"
what about the travelers ashtray? it opens up and even has a place to lay your cigarette, when finished you just crush the cigarette then close the lid down and it snaps shut, now there is an idea for some of our more entrepreneur citizens, aw naw noo i have gave these wee foreigners a hint and they will be making millions selling them to us. well as holy wully says "i give all my doubts to jesus, ahm awright!"
Posted by: Frank, Glasgow on 8:23pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Well done the Labour Council on this issue delivering what people want. The few usual apologists on here for people who are criminals and if locking them up is what will get the message across to them so be it.
Well done the Labour Council on this issue delivering what people want. The few usual apologists on here for people who are criminals and if locking them up is what will get the message across to them so be it.
Posted by: I hear your pain, me,me,me on 8:36pm Mon 21 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Frank[/bold] wrote:
Well done the Labour Council on this issue delivering what people want. The few usual apologists on here for people who are criminals and if locking them up is what will get the message across to them so be it.[/quote] Yeah well done Frank,lets lock-up litter louts because they are ripping apart the fabric of decent society & there isnt nearly enough people in jail but free rapists,killers & child abusers instead..Typical labour nonsense,not to worry though because its bye,bye Brown who by the way does not have a mandate to govern & Purcell will be gone soon as well..
Frank wrote:
Well done the Labour Council on this issue delivering what people want. The few usual apologists on here for people who are criminals and if locking them up is what will get the message across to them so be it.
Yeah well done Frank,lets lock-up litter louts because they are ripping apart the fabric of decent society & there isnt nearly enough people in jail but free rapists,killers & child abusers instead..Typical labour nonsense,not to worry though because its bye,bye Brown who by the way does not have a mandate to govern & Purcell will be gone soon as well..
Posted by: BlackTulip, Netherlands on 8:43pm Mon 21 Apr 08
As an ex-Glaswegian now living in Holland, it saddens me to read this. Might help if they emptyed the litter bins a bit more often so that people could actually use them. They manage to do so in so many other European cities. But wasting Police time on people discarding cigarette ends seems totally over the top. Surely their time would be better served trying to control real crime. No longer allowed a fag with your pint, and now it's not safe to smoke in the street. As much as I enjoy my visit's home, I'm glad I don't live there any more. Nanny state, nanny city!
As an ex-Glaswegian now living in Holland, it saddens me to read this. Might help if they emptyed the litter bins a bit more often so that people could actually use them. They manage to do so in so many other European cities. But wasting Police time on people discarding cigarette ends seems totally over the top. Surely their time would be better served trying to control real crime. No longer allowed a fag with your pint, and now it's not safe to smoke in the street. As much as I enjoy my visit's home, I'm glad I don't live there any more. Nanny state, nanny city!
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 9:08pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Its" a money thing ...
Posted by: weediv, Canada on 9:47pm Mon 21 Apr 08
oh my the bins were to full to put my fag ends in I am sure it is not all fag ends that is showing up it is all the garbage that is tossed around and the fag butts do pile up just stand outside a pub or a busy restaurant when you cannot smoke inside they come and stand at the door then toss the fag ends[bold][bold]bold[/bold] [bold]bold[/bold] [/bold]
oh my the bins were to full to put my fag ends in I am sure it is not all fag ends that is showing up it is all the garbage that is tossed around and the fag butts do pile up just stand outside a pub or a busy restaurant when you cannot smoke inside they come and stand at the door then toss the fag ends
Posted by: jonny bond, glasgow on 10:05pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Frank you div what are you on about it costs money to lock up and criminalise people who will then be unable to get a job cause they couldnt find a bin. Sack glasgow's **** council they are useless and a waste of public money. Lets hire cleaners instead of litter wardens and police instead of parking attendants and speed cameras.
Frank you div what are you on about it costs money to lock up and criminalise people who will then be unable to get a job cause they couldnt find a bin. Sack glasgow's **** council they are useless and a waste of public money. Lets hire cleaners instead of litter wardens and police instead of parking attendants and speed cameras.
Posted by: LawryO, hardgate on 10:59am Tue 22 Apr 08
I see from the list that some are 'visitors' to the city, what are their areas like regards litter?
I see from the list that some are 'visitors' to the city, what are their areas like regards litter?
Posted by: puskas, East Kilbride on 11:12am Tue 22 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Seymour Hope[/bold] wrote:
All of you who say its just trivial probably claim to love your country when it suits you. If you love your country and want to be proud of it don't drop your Crap all over it.[/quote] Its as simple as Seymour said.
As some on here write rubbish I suppose its understandable they cannot see the problem..
I cannot believe that so many apologists for litter louts exist..
Some time ago speaking to a gentleman who worked cleaning up graffiti from paint spraying, quoted in company ;
They supplied the neds with the paint in the east end to keep himself and others in the job of restoring ... True. The response from myself and many others was we haven't seen him since... "Public amenity"..
It wouldn't surprise me if he takes part on this comment board at a guess he is at best 1 of 6 ..
Seymour Hope wrote:
All of you who say its just trivial probably claim to love your country when it suits you. If you love your country and want to be proud of it don't drop your Crap all over it.
Its as simple as Seymour said.
As some on here write rubbish I suppose its understandable they cannot see the problem..
I cannot believe that so many apologists for litter louts exist..
Some time ago speaking to a gentleman who worked cleaning up graffiti from paint spraying, quoted in company ;
They supplied the neds with the paint in the east end to keep himself and others in the job of restoring ... True. The response from myself and many others was we haven't seen him since... "Public amenity"..
It wouldn't surprise me if he takes part on this comment board at a guess he is at best 1 of 6 ..
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