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Tesco and council told to start talking on store
 
An artist's impression of the giant Tesco site
An artist's impression of the giant Tesco site
 

A CONTROVERSIAL superstore planning application took a significant step forward after Tesco and council officials were told to enter talks to try to reach agreement.

Michael Culshaw, public inquiry reporter, took the unusual step of asking the supermarket chain and Glasgow City Council to agree a set of conditions, should he "be minded to recommend approval" of the scheme.

After discussions, the major disagreement appeared to be whether the store planned for Partick, in the city's west end, should be allowed to open 24 hours.

A list of 53 conditions was set out for the inquiry to consider, ranging from a bat survey to drainage assessments and noise levels should it be given the go-ahead.

Both parties failed to agree on the opening hours of the store which would be sited at Beith Street in Partick.

In the list of conditions, it is stated: "The operation of the proposed supermarket shall not begin before 0700 hours or operate after 2300 hours."

The reason for the condition was given as: "In order to safeguard the property itself, the amenity of the surrounding area and the adjacent proposed housing."

The car-park hours were also suggested to be between 7am and 11pm, with measures to be put in place to prevent commuters using it as a free car park.

However, Tesco objected to the restriction on opening hours.

Robert Robinson, a town planner for Tesco, said: "From Tesco's point of view, they would prefer unrestricted hours."

He added: " The normal case would be to establish noise procedures and our intention would be to put an appropriate condition forward."

The council's QC, Malcolm Thomson, said: "We would consider an appropriate reques."

However, Hillhead Community Council, which is represented at the inquiry, claimed the opening hours were still of concern.

The inquiry continues today, when campaigners Stop Tesco Owning Partick (Stop) set out their opposition to the development for a superstore, leisure facilities and 600 student flats.

Pauline McNeill, Labour MSP for Kelvin, is also due to outline her concerns about the controversial proposals to the inquiry.

The Reporter, accompanied by officials from Tesco, the council, Glasgow Harbour and Stop, will visit the site tomorrow at the conclusion of the inquiry.

He will then consider the evidence before delivering his verdict at a later date.

Publication date 01/05/08

Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 11:29am Thu 1 May 08
Let me see now... Theres already two Tesco Express on Argyle Street ( one down the Blythswood/Anderson end). Also one on Ingram Street at Merchant city. Explain to me how Tescos needs another Tescos so close to the city centre?!
Posted by: Anabelle, glasgow on 11:55am Thu 1 May 08
Meep wrote:
Let me see now... Theres already two Tesco Express on Argyle Street ( one down the Blythswood/Anderson end). Also one on Ingram Street at Merchant city. Explain to me how Tescos needs another Tescos so close to the city centre?!
Because they are a very successful business and have determined that such a store would be profittable.

Have you ever been in an "Express"? Try buying an onion, no chance. But you can buy a prepack bag of organic free range taste the difference sicillian onions for £1.49.

I for one welcome a decent sized Tesco, or other such supermarket in the west end.
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 12:01pm Thu 1 May 08
Anabelle wrote:
Meep wrote: Let me see now... Theres already two Tesco Express on Argyle Street ( one down the Blythswood/Anderson end). Also one on Ingram Street at Merchant city. Explain to me how Tescos needs another Tescos so close to the city centre?!
Because they are a very successful business and have determined that such a store would be profittable. Have you ever been in an "Express"? Try buying an onion, no chance. But you can buy a prepack bag of organic free range taste the difference sicillian onions for £1.49. I for one welcome a decent sized Tesco, or other such supermarket in the west end.
Unlike Morrissons, Sainsburys, Marks & Spencer(x2) and Somerfield? Clearly Dumbarton Rd, Byres Rd, and Crow Rd. are no longer in the West End then. Not to mention the other Morrissons, Tesco and Asda all close by... oh and the numerous other grocery outlets such as Peckhams and Roots & Fruits.

Of course we need more grocery stores in the West End... deary me.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 12:49pm Thu 1 May 08
The question of need doesn't really come into it. It's not the principle of a supermarket (let alone who owns it (which isn't a matter for the planning system)) but the specifics of Tesco's proposals. In particular, the scale and design of the store, and the likely traffic/pollution impacts around Partick Cross.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:56pm Thu 1 May 08

Again we are seeing Tesco's bullying ways, and what they want. The greed of, and destruction of local communities retail infrastructure of which Tesco stores appear within is scandalous.

This store cannot be allowed to go ahead, irrespective of a spat over opening hours.
They are the least of campaigners concerns.

The very fact this store is being situated in a part of Glasgow which is seeing major traffic disruption, congestion, pollution and noise at present - never mind the addition of this Tesco is of huge concern.

The extra cars and traffic this Tesco will generate, in its potential building, even before it is operational will prove that a giant Tesco within the site in question is simply going to kill Particks local traders.


Dumbarton Road is already gridlocked due to the excessive number of traffic lights - pedestrian crossings which cause more air pollution from idling cars.

This Tesco will only compound the problem Partick has of far more traffic on its roads than they can cope with.

Stop Tesco Owning Partick - This store cannot be allowed to go ahead!
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:22pm Thu 1 May 08
If Tesco want to build a superstore, why not build it in Carntyne/Riddrie. there's only have an overpriced Somerfield. You can't get to either Asda in the Forge or in Robroyston on a Sunday because First Bus don't run the appropriate services on a Sunday.

Come to the East End, leave those in the West to shop in Lidl!
Posted by: Glorious Failure, Glasgow on 2:48pm Thu 1 May 08
Stewie Griffin wrote:
If Tesco want to build a superstore, why not build it in Carntyne/Riddrie. there's only have an overpriced Somerfield. You can't get to either Asda in the Forge or in Robroyston on a Sunday because First Bus don't run the appropriate services on a Sunday. Come to the East End, leave those in the West to shop in Lidl!
East End for Tesco?

They would probably have a profits dive of 50% due to smashed windows and stolen trollies!
Posted by: Eileen Duke, Glasgow on 2:49pm Thu 1 May 08
There is already a known air pollution problem in the close vicinity of the proposed superstore, requiring an air quality action plan to be produced by the city council. Extra traffic generated by an unnecessary superstore will not help this problem. Air pollution causes premature death, lung disease and heart disease, and poor lung development in children, as well as exacerbating asthma. Is this what locals want? I don't think so. There have been many local objections to this development. Their voices should not be ignored. I speak as a recently retired GP, who lives in the West end, and gave evidence (unreported) yesterday at the inquiry about the effect of air pollution on health. It is national transport policy and the transport policy of the city council that urban traffic should not be increased, for reasons of climate change as well as air pollution. So why consider going ahead with this development? The Director of Public Health at NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde is on record that they wish some say in urban planning because of air quality issues. I hope they are not ignored. Health is a very important issue, but sometimes seems to be overlooked.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 2:59pm Thu 1 May 08
Talk of the east end reminded me there is another Tesco up at Sringburn way across the road from Sighthill has well. To me this is overprovision. And why the hell are no over supermarkets kicking up a fuss about Tescos getting prime land in Glasgow? So by my count thats 4 Tescos all with in the city centre boundary Very very suspicious. Also has a side note Tescos might be attenmpting to push through the Partick plans before the Competitonh Commission lays down a new law over the amount of atores one company can have in a local. So Glasgow council and Tescos might be subject to prosecution from the Competiton Commission.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 4:16pm Thu 1 May 08
Tescos getting prime land in Glasgow


What, instead of Bellway, et al? We do need to have places where we can buy food. Not everyone has a car to drive to out of town shopping centres.

Posted by: Ian, Glasgow on 4:52pm Thu 1 May 08
Stewie Griffin wrote:
If Tesco want to build a superstore, why not build it in Carntyne/Riddrie. there's only have an overpriced Somerfield. You can't get to either Asda in the Forge or in Robroyston on a Sunday because First Bus don't run the appropriate services on a Sunday. Come to the East End, leave those in the West to shop in Lidl!
There is also a 24 hour Tesco Extra in Rutherglen and another in Shettleston
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 5:03pm Thu 1 May 08
On the subject of traffic and pollution, see this... www.guardian.co.uk/s
ociety/2008/apr/15/h
ealth?gusrc=rss&feed
=society

Partick Cross and Byres Road are already designated as pollution blackspots.
Posted by: DMac, Glasgow on 5:26pm Thu 1 May 08
Stewie Griffin wrote:
If Tesco want to build a superstore, why not build it in Carntyne/Riddrie. there's only have an overpriced Somerfield. You can't get to either Asda in the Forge or in Robroyston on a Sunday because First Bus don't run the appropriate services on a Sunday. Come to the East End, leave those in the West to shop in Lidl!
Why don't you shop on a Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri or Sat if Firstbus don't run appropriate services on a sunday?

Also, the Tesco at Shettleston is practically a stones throw away from Carntyne just south of Greenfield.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 7:56pm Thu 1 May 08

Lets just say it will be a travesty of justice if Tesco gets its way yet again, and Glasgow city councillors fail yet again to see the wishes of those all so opposed to this site.


There are plenty other sites where the need for such a store could be considered.

But, the greed and competetive nature of Tesco, simply wishing to outstrip its competitors already in Partick is clear:

Supermarkets / Stores within a half mile radius of this PROPOSED Tesco store include:

1. Somerfield, Byres Road.
2. Iceland, Byres Road,
3. Farmfoods, Byres Road.
4. Morrisons, Partick.
5. Sainsburys, Partick.
6. Marks & Spencer Food store, Partick.

and, 7. All other local grocer type shops along Byres and Dumbarton Road, Partick.

This reason may not be grounds as a planning objection, which is very unfortunate.

I feel strongly, that the way in which planning applications are considered, granted, allowed to be objected against, and are even given planning permission ( heaven forbid - in this incidence) must seriously be reviewed - not just so those who apply benefit from fast-tracking the system......

but, ultimately - us voters, ordinary residents, members of the public, campaigners and community councils alike are all taken far more seriously in the current process.

Otherwise - big and corporate businesses continually get their way, due to the gains from taxation and other spins offs for the Council - with residents, and the communities all potentially trampled on.

This Tesco will be the death of Partick, commercially, as well as the long term health implications spoken of so elequently by ( retired GP) Eileen Duke.

Also, with the Western Infirmaries A & E earmarked for closure - the danger of so many extra cars on the roads is bound to see far more accidents - let alone pollution.

NO TESCO IN PARTICK!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:19pm Thu 1 May 08

It also seems that this Public Enquiry has been very poorly reported with very little said in terms of the objections raised....

Afterall the members of various groups - S.T.O.P. spent alot of time and effort getting the knowledge and expertise together to presnent their case, which has seemingly gone unreported.


Finally, Tesco are reportedly opening a new Tesco express/metro store near Partick Cross - underneath the new Partick Housing Association development..... surely a second store within 200 metres of the Beith Street site is a bit excessive.

Tesco again demonstrating they just want to have their cake and eat it, or should that be grab our cash and beat it!
Posted by: ph2o, Glasgow on 11:42pm Thu 1 May 08
The Beith Street area is a ruin that has been left to rot for years if not decades. Now Tesco comes along to bring new life to this area and all some people do is complain. Glasgow needs to modernise, we need better shops and a decent sized Tesco is much needed in the area.

GO TESCO!
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 9:21am Fri 2 May 08
ph2o, the reason that site has been derelict the last few years is because Tesco has been sitting on it. Supermarkets buy up sites they don't plan to develop in the short-term so as to prevent their rivals getting them. Not doing anything also has the benefit (for them) of making locals and the Cooncil more desperate to see something (maybe anything)happening there!

Beith Street is probably the best development opportunity in the west end at present: it would be good if Tesco could be seen off so that some better ideas get a chance.
Posted by: gmac, Germany on 11:46am Fri 2 May 08
We need a scrap yard and derelict wasteland more than a supermarket on Beith street. The fact that the existing access road will interlink with the new road traffic interchange, will mean that vehicular traffic need not travel on Dumbarton road. Further, the Clydeside expressway will allow car owning customers access from a much wider area, including Broomhill, Scotstoun, Anderson, and via the squinty bridge, from south of the river.
Posted by: Heather W, Luing on 2:58pm Fri 2 May 08
Personally I'd make the area that was the scrap yard a 2 storey parking lot then the Partick interchange could be a park and ride area and the other end, where the trees are more established, I'd make into a park.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 4:00pm Fri 2 May 08

The sad fact is that until the rules on mass buying up of plots of land, that remain derelict for years is stopped - Tesco will continue to let land sit empty and not give a da*n!

This level of ignorance of Tesco, along with its refusal to give the measly sum of £1 million towards the fastlink service along the Clyde, is proof it cares far less about the community it serves, and far more about bleeding the area dry of competitors, and ultimately the variety of retail outlets, and shops which have made Partick as diverse as it's been.

The useage of this plot of land must be dealt with far more sensitively, and in a way that will benefit the local economy, and sustainability of the environment.
This Tesco will do nothing to help Partick, environmentally, economically, or in terms of the increasing divide of its more wealthy and less well off residents.

Now with the leases for shops so much higher, and custom for some at an all time low, this Tesco will only succeed in being the final nail in the coffin for the already struggling shops within Partick, and the West End.

DOWN WITH TESCO - NO MORE TESCO's IN GLASGOW!
Posted by: ph2o, Glasgow on 1:34am Sat 3 May 08
I think it is just Tesco itself yous are disagreeing to. Surely, if it was going to be a Waitrose or Sainsburys it would be a different matter. The reason why there are more Tesco now is because there is a demand for them. Five years ago, we were only dominated by Safeway in Glasgow.
Safeway supermarkets in Partick and Byres Rd...
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:00pm Sat 3 May 08

Naturally, the political, and financial clout that Tesco has means that it has even fiercer opposition to its developments. The nature of the beast, in this case Tesco makes some people even more determined.

However, I would certainly be equally opposed should a Waitrose or other store be moving there on such a large scale, and proportion.

This is as much about the innappropriacy of the site bought buy Tesco, as the fact that Partick and the West End have enough problems to contend without adding to them.

Incidentally, when Somerfields licence runs out, at the top of Byres Road, it is reported it will become a Waitrose.

The number of supermarkets already saturating the westend, the traffic, pollution, congestion, noise and affects Tesco will undoubtedly have and add to this are real concerns.

The point being that Safeway is no comparison.
Safeway versus Tesco: Now lets see.

Tesco a stoe for every post code in the UK.
Sales of Clothes, electricals, mobile phones, and insurance policies.

Safeway: Sales of food, possibly CD's, but its range far more limited than supermarkets, and more importantly Tesco now.

So, really ph20, as much as I hear what you say, the truth of the matter is that Tesco is a far bigger animal and will have far more impact, damage and long term implications for Partick, than a mere food store on an appropriate site, at an appropriate size & scale for the area.

Glasgow Harbours flats have already added a great number of excess cars and traffic to the roads. This Tesco will be the final straw.

The damage th pollution will do is already well noted by the ritired GP who's comments and case against Tesco, was NOT reported by the E.T. - I wonder why not ? ?
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