Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:03am Fri 23 May 08
Isnt this the 2nd community hall to go up in flames in recent weeks.
Isnt this the 2nd community hall to go up in flames in recent weeks.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 11:05am Fri 23 May 08
Flats, anyone?
Posted by: Bri, Glasgow on 11:22am Fri 23 May 08
The day after the Council announces they need to cut £50million from its budget over the next couple of years....
There goes a few bob eh?
The day after the Council announces they need to cut £50million from its budget over the next couple of years....
There goes a few bob eh?
Posted by: Rab Jones, Glasgow on 11:55am Fri 23 May 08
Are these places getting torched purposally?
The insurance money then pays for the "new" development.
Are these places getting torched purposally?
The insurance money then pays for the "new" development.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 12:09pm Fri 23 May 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
Flats, anyone?[/quote] In Shettleston?
Stewie Griffin wrote:
Flats, anyone?
In Shettleston?
Posted by: Kudos, Glasgow on 12:24pm Fri 23 May 08
Why waste the money on an invesigation, I ain't taggart but my money is on a ned about 15 - 20 years old in shell suit stinking of BO and drinking buckie!! Who set the place on fire trying to heat up his smack! If you see this ned in glasgow contact crime stoppers.
Why waste the money on an invesigation, I ain't taggart but my money is on a ned about 15 - 20 years old in shell suit stinking of BO and drinking buckie!! Who set the place on fire trying to heat up his smack! If you see this ned in glasgow contact crime stoppers.
Posted by: FMJ, Glasgow on 12:36pm Fri 23 May 08
Yup, flats within a few months. And this is the last time this story will ever be mentioned - got to wonder if any curious reporters/ police/ fire officers are being quietly warned not to bother investigating these blazes. And just think of the insurance payout when Glasgow City Chambers goes up in 2010...
Yup, flats within a few months. And this is the last time this story will ever be mentioned - got to wonder if any curious reporters/ police/ fire officers are being quietly warned not to bother investigating these blazes. And just think of the insurance payout when Glasgow City Chambers goes up in 2010...
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 12:39pm Fri 23 May 08
[quote]And just think of the insurance payout when Glasgow City Chambers goes up in 2010...[/quote]
Steady, they'll be after you.
And just think of the insurance payout when Glasgow City Chambers goes up in 2010...
Steady, they'll be after you.
Posted by: a_mcb, glasgow on 1:29pm Fri 23 May 08
Building owned by GCC - yes
Old building that might be a bit run down - yes
Back holiday weekend - yes
Fire during the night - yes
Well down GCC - process working at it's usual high standard!
It might be in Shettleston but they've managed it all over the city for decades!
Building owned by GCC - yes
Old building that might be a bit run down - yes
Back holiday weekend - yes
Fire during the night - yes
Well down GCC - process working at it's usual high standard!
It might be in Shettleston but they've managed it all over the city for decades!
Posted by: USA_BLUE, Ohio, USA on 3:04pm Fri 23 May 08
Fond memories, I used to live in Wellshot Rd.as a wee boy. In fact my wedding reception was in the halls. Come to think of it, the council catering dept burned the steak pie and filled the place with smoke that night also.
Fond memories, I used to live in Wellshot Rd.as a wee boy. In fact my wedding reception was in the halls. Come to think of it, the council catering dept burned the steak pie and filled the place with smoke that night also.
Posted by: Murraymint, Kilbarchan on 5:06pm Fri 23 May 08
What a load of imbecilic posts. Just who exactly in the Council do you accuse of arson, and how would it be implemented?
As arson is a very serious crime, with severe penalties, what council official or employee in his/her right mind would ever consider such an action? And what would be in it for them personally?
What a load of imbecilic posts. Just who exactly in the Council do you accuse of arson, and how would it be implemented?
As arson is a very serious crime, with severe penalties, what council official or employee in his/her right mind would ever consider such an action? And what would be in it for them personally?
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 7:10pm Fri 23 May 08
[quote][bold]Murraymint[/bold] wrote:
What a load of imbecilic posts. Just who exactly in the Council do you accuse of arson, and how would it be implemented? As arson is a very serious crime, with severe penalties, what council official or employee in his/her right mind would ever consider such an action? And what would be in it for them personally? [/quote] How did they get in? if it were arson? Don't they have a procedure to ensure the building is secure. Why when historic buildings are frequently lost through fire, was no fire detection system fitted to give automatic notice to the fire station. Modern maintained systems are reliable. Yet again, Glasgow havng saved thousands on rates fails to ivest in our citizens past for future generations. Was a cause faulty wiring? GCC like GHA are well known not to inspect and test their building as required ever 5 years to attain safety compliance. So much for the trust of CS Glasgow taking care of our assets. Shettleson was in dire need of works, having seen the hall last year - looking tired and in want of much essential basic internal maintenance. Has the CEO of CS Glasgow ever visited the property under their care????
Murraymint wrote:
What a load of imbecilic posts. Just who exactly in the Council do you accuse of arson, and how would it be implemented? As arson is a very serious crime, with severe penalties, what council official or employee in his/her right mind would ever consider such an action? And what would be in it for them personally?
How did they get in? if it were arson? Don't they have a procedure to ensure the building is secure. Why when historic buildings are frequently lost through fire, was no fire detection system fitted to give automatic notice to the fire station. Modern maintained systems are reliable. Yet again, Glasgow havng saved thousands on rates fails to ivest in our citizens past for future generations. Was a cause faulty wiring? GCC like GHA are well known not to inspect and test their building as required ever 5 years to attain safety compliance. So much for the trust of CS Glasgow taking care of our assets. Shettleson was in dire need of works, having seen the hall last year - looking tired and in want of much essential basic internal maintenance. Has the CEO of CS Glasgow ever visited the property under their care????
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:11pm Fri 23 May 08
[quote][bold]FMJ[/bold] wrote:
Yup, flats within a few months. And this is the last time this story will ever be mentioned - got to wonder if any curious reporters/ police/ fire officers are being quietly warned not to bother investigating these blazes. And just think of the insurance payout when Glasgow City Chambers goes up in 2010... [/quote]
Like other cynics, and conspiracy theory authors I fully agree FMJ.
Those who want to see how this story unfolds should keep a hard copy of this story, and review the situation in a few months.
This kind of situation is terrible when areas like this are underinvested in, with higher levels of crime, vandalism, poverty and deprivation.
I hope the people of Shettleston fight for their right to ensure a replacement Community Centre - Hall is built, and this latest incident isn't used as a perfect opportunity for GHA to step in and take over, or for G.C.C. or the new "Culture & Sport" sell off the land.
I just hope this fire wont be the end of Shettleston Hall, but a new beginning, as Communtity Halls are the heart of the areas they serve - and bring their people together.
FMJ wrote:
Yup, flats within a few months. And this is the last time this story will ever be mentioned - got to wonder if any curious reporters/ police/ fire officers are being quietly warned not to bother investigating these blazes. And just think of the insurance payout when Glasgow City Chambers goes up in 2010...
Like other cynics, and conspiracy theory authors I fully agree FMJ.
Those who want to see how this story unfolds should keep a hard copy of this story, and review the situation in a few months.
This kind of situation is terrible when areas like this are underinvested in, with higher levels of crime, vandalism, poverty and deprivation.
I hope the people of Shettleston fight for their right to ensure a replacement Community Centre - Hall is built, and this latest incident isn't used as a perfect opportunity for GHA to step in and take over, or for G.C.C. or the new "Culture & Sport" sell off the land.
I just hope this fire wont be the end of Shettleston Hall, but a new beginning, as Communtity Halls are the heart of the areas they serve - and bring their people together.
Posted by: FMJ, Glasgow on 12:35am Sat 24 May 08
[quote][bold]Murraymint[/bold] wrote:
What a load of imbecilic posts. Just who exactly in the Council do you accuse of arson, and how would it be implemented? As arson is a very serious crime, with severe penalties, what council official or employee in his/her right mind would ever consider such an action? And what would be in it for them personally? [/quote] [bold]Organised crime/ major scams for beginners:[/bold] [italic]Do not actually carry out the crime yourself. Pay someone you don't care about to do it for you, then deny ever knowing them if they get caught. Ideally, filter it through two or three different people so that the person actually committing the crime doesn't even know it was your idea in the first place.[/italic]
I know Glasgow councillors aren't exactly rocket scientists, but I reckon even they would have figured out that it might be politically damaging to actually get caught doing anything illegal. However, if listed buildings should [italic]conveniently[/italic] fall/burn down, well...
Murraymint wrote:
What a load of imbecilic posts. Just who exactly in the Council do you accuse of arson, and how would it be implemented? As arson is a very serious crime, with severe penalties, what council official or employee in his/her right mind would ever consider such an action? And what would be in it for them personally?
Organised crime/ major scams for beginners: Do not actually carry out the crime yourself. Pay someone you don't care about to do it for you, then deny ever knowing them if they get caught. Ideally, filter it through two or three different people so that the person actually committing the crime doesn't even know it was your idea in the first place.
I know Glasgow councillors aren't exactly rocket scientists, but I reckon even they would have figured out that it might be politically damaging to actually get caught doing anything illegal. However, if listed buildings should
conveniently fall/burn down, well...
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 5:13pm Sat 24 May 08
You only have to run down your building & the fire buzz spreads through the neds. Doubt we shall see this building ever open again. The steps to the entrance/exit will not meet DDA. Possible that a new hall, a smaller version of name only (much use to no one), will open up next to the leisure centre were parking exists. What ever happens, this council wont do the job the people require, just as long as it looks good in PR, thats all that counts to the current GCC. Look at the fruit market, millions spent on consultants yet they still forgot about basic facilities. Waste aware, the people of Shettleson must be made to speak out, for the sake of all our daughters & sons.
You only have to run down your building & the fire buzz spreads through the neds. Doubt we shall see this building ever open again. The steps to the entrance/exit will not meet DDA. Possible that a new hall, a smaller version of name only (much use to no one), will open up next to the leisure centre were parking exists. What ever happens, this council wont do the job the people require, just as long as it looks good in PR, thats all that counts to the current GCC. Look at the fruit market, millions spent on consultants yet they still forgot about basic facilities. Waste aware, the people of Shettleson must be made to speak out, for the sake of all our daughters & sons.
Posted by: celtic4, United States on 3:04am Sun 25 May 08
I am sorry to see any building of historic value go down. Sad day. And those of you who joke of arson should be ashamed. Arson is a serious crime.
I am sorry to see any building of historic value go down. Sad day. And those of you who joke of arson should be ashamed. Arson is a serious crime.
Posted by: Baphometis, Glasgow on 12:36pm Sun 25 May 08
My guess is that it was neds.
You know how spiteful and hateful these people get when they hear of people who they consider "gawfs" having fun. Shettleston Halls had a music club where allot of metalheads, emos, alt people, and so on went.
I'm trying to find out if I'm right...
My guess is that it was neds.
You know how spiteful and hateful these people get when they hear of people who they consider "gawfs" having fun. Shettleston Halls had a music club where allot of metalheads, emos, alt people, and so on went.
I'm trying to find out if I'm right...
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