Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:23am Mon 23 Jun 08
It's surprising that they are going to dynamite those blocks - I thought that they were so perilously close to the tracks out of Queen Street they'd have to dismantle them. Anyway - glad I don't commute out of there on a daily basis!
It's surprising that they are going to dynamite those blocks - I thought that they were so perilously close to the tracks out of Queen Street they'd have to dismantle them. Anyway - glad I don't commute out of there on a daily basis!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 11:30am Mon 23 Jun 08
personally, I wouldnae be relying on being able to get a train through to edinburgh the next morning
personally, I wouldnae be relying on being able to get a train through to edinburgh the next morning
Posted by: maximusmop, townhead on 11:42am Mon 23 Jun 08
the demolition is being done at that time network rail can have the line clear for the sunday morning involved, i watched the pinkston cooling tower come down in the 80's and now te fountinwell block's are going as well, good riddence to leaking damp ugly box's, they are being blown down simultainiously!
the demolition is being done at that time network rail can have the line clear for the sunday morning involved, i watched the pinkston cooling tower come down in the 80's and now te fountinwell block's are going as well, good riddence to leaking damp ugly box's, they are being blown down simultainiously!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:42am Mon 23 Jun 08
The people who planned these things were on cue to ensure that any removal of their dreams would not be an easy task.
Of course, there are other obstacles in the city built around the same time.
When it comes, the M8 city section will be a nightmare to remove as there are many obstacles in its path, some of it may just get filled in - but that's years down the line, the government will insist on hindering the growth of Glasgow's Inner City for some years to come.
But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.
Replace it with a decent community as seen in the Gorbals and building on the remaining Victorian communities in the city - they are thriving and successful, whereas all other ideas and projects have failed.
Canal extension to the nbasty springburn expressway should also be looked into also for attracting business and tourism - why should North Glasgow continue to be just housing schemes with dead end streets - its been that way since the 1970's - why should it continue?
Change for the better please.
But
The people who planned these things were on cue to ensure that any removal of their dreams would not be an easy task.
Of course, there are other obstacles in the city built around the same time.
When it comes, the M8 city section will be a nightmare to remove as there are many obstacles in its path, some of it may just get filled in - but that's years down the line, the government will insist on hindering the growth of Glasgow's Inner City for some years to come.
But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.
Replace it with a decent community as seen in the Gorbals and building on the remaining Victorian communities in the city - they are thriving and successful, whereas all other ideas and projects have failed.
Canal extension to the nbasty springburn expressway should also be looked into also for attracting business and tourism - why should North Glasgow continue to be just housing schemes with dead end streets - its been that way since the 1970's - why should it continue?
Change for the better please.
But
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:49am Mon 23 Jun 08
I say but because
There will be other ideas which won't probably stretch to that level of imagination - especially as its North Glasgow - the place is rank - Springburn destroyed by Civic vandals and not one person responsible, for which most are still alive and they never received a fine or jail or even an ASBO.
I wonder if Hitler would have achieved that level of damage if he had a stranglehold on the city.
Typical
For a bit more insight on this, check out the ET's Springburn community page (Area History Section)
The top comments on that page will give you all a better understanding of the above post if not familiar with the area.
I say but because
There will be other ideas which won't probably stretch to that level of imagination - especially as its North Glasgow - the place is rank - Springburn destroyed by Civic vandals and not one person responsible, for which most are still alive and they never received a fine or jail or even an ASBO.
I wonder if Hitler would have achieved that level of damage if he had a stranglehold on the city.
Typical
For a bit more insight on this, check out the ET's Springburn community page (Area History Section)
The top comments on that page will give you all a better understanding of the above post if not familiar with the area.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:50am Mon 23 Jun 08
I agree ,the north side of glasgow should have trams or more lines opened up.
I agree ,the north side of glasgow should have trams or more lines opened up.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 12:51pm Mon 23 Jun 08
TMC, I imagine the visionaries of the 1950s and 60s thought we all be travelling by light-power in the 21st C, with work all done by robots…
TMC, I imagine the visionaries of the 1950s and 60s thought we all be travelling by light-power in the 21st C, with work all done by robots…
Posted by: John MacLean, Glasgow on 2:53pm Mon 23 Jun 08
As you come down the Glasgow Road from East Kilbride, the view as Glasgow just comes into sight is simply brilliant with the Campsie's in the background...then you catch sight of all the towers and it makes your heart sink.
As you come down the Glasgow Road from East Kilbride, the view as Glasgow just comes into sight is simply brilliant with the Campsie's in the background...then you catch sight of all the towers and it makes your heart sink.
Posted by: cnicholl, Glasgow on 3:38pm Mon 23 Jun 08
When will this happen?
Posted by: stellargirl, glasgow on 5:29pm Mon 23 Jun 08
i have heard a rumour of 13th july
i have heard a rumour of 13th july
Posted by: interested observer, carlisle on 5:43pm Mon 23 Jun 08
[quote][bold]John MacLean[/bold] wrote:
As you come down the Glasgow Road from East Kilbride, the view as Glasgow just comes into sight is simply brilliant with the Campsie's in the background...then you catch sight of all the towers and it makes your heart sink.[/quote] I couldnt have put it better myself tower blocks are a blot on the landscape both in terms of their physical appearance and for what they were in principle, somewhere to dump people who had no other choice! Houses with gardens were always the answer to slum clearence and "hey presto" what are they finally builiding the very same. The people of Glasgow deserve them they have sure had to wait long enough!
John MacLean wrote:
As you come down the Glasgow Road from East Kilbride, the view as Glasgow just comes into sight is simply brilliant with the Campsie's in the background...then you catch sight of all the towers and it makes your heart sink.
I couldnt have put it better myself tower blocks are a blot on the landscape both in terms of their physical appearance and for what they were in principle, somewhere to dump people who had no other choice! Houses with gardens were always the answer to slum clearence and "hey presto" what are they finally builiding the very same. The people of Glasgow deserve them they have sure had to wait long enough!
Posted by: Templeton_otg, Bridgeton on 6:11pm Mon 23 Jun 08
As someone who used to live in 18 Fountainwell place. Part of me is sad cause it was the best out of the lot in the area but sad thing is they where good flats at a time maybe they would have lasted longer if the then Glasgow city council had invested in them. But true what they say you can build houseing projects like New Gorbals and soon bridgeton and & Dalmarnock but they will still put the minority social misfits back into new clean homes who woudnt appreciate a good thing if it bit them
As someone who used to live in 18 Fountainwell place. Part of me is sad cause it was the best out of the lot in the area but sad thing is they where good flats at a time maybe they would have lasted longer if the then Glasgow city council had invested in them. But true what they say you can build houseing projects like New Gorbals and soon bridgeton and & Dalmarnock but they will still put the minority social misfits back into new clean homes who woudnt appreciate a good thing if it bit them
Posted by: anni, London on 6:14pm Mon 23 Jun 08
I have a friend who lives in the new builds across on Keppoch St, and once past the flats, the scene of the Campsies and is lovely, I drove through those flats via Buchanan St and before I got to the flats there were some nice greenery, I remember thinking of some nice houses with gardens. Good riddence to the flat, I hope they knock all the towers down, they are an eye sore, the hard working people of Glasgow deserve proper council or HA houses, especially with today's econony.
I have a friend who lives in the new builds across on Keppoch St, and once past the flats, the scene of the Campsies and is lovely, I drove through those flats via Buchanan St and before I got to the flats there were some nice greenery, I remember thinking of some nice houses with gardens. Good riddence to the flat, I hope they knock all the towers down, they are an eye sore, the hard working people of Glasgow deserve proper council or HA houses, especially with today's econony.
Posted by: jagger, usa on 9:21pm Mon 23 Jun 08
I grow up in Sighthill flats in the 70 and 80's people had pride living in the flats. Jump to the late 90's and it was and still is a war zone, the NED,S and their so called parents could care less about the community. I agree with the other comment about placing these people back into the new home's it will over time become the war zone again. City council please take pride in the new Sightill and place people who are going to bring back a sense of community and make it a place were you are not looking over your shoulder in fear some NED or drug crazed fool is stocking in the bushes ready to pounce some auld yin's wallet.
I grow up in Sighthill flats in the 70 and 80's people had pride living in the flats. Jump to the late 90's and it was and still is a war zone, the NED,S and their so called parents could care less about the community. I agree with the other comment about placing these people back into the new home's it will over time become the war zone again. City council please take pride in the new Sightill and place people who are going to bring back a sense of community and make it a place were you are not looking over your shoulder in fear some NED or drug crazed fool is stocking in the bushes ready to pounce some auld yin's wallet.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 10:46pm Mon 23 Jun 08
stellargirl, I've heard Pollokshaws ins 20th July and these are a week earlier, so we agree
stellargirl, I've heard Pollokshaws ins 20th July and these are a week earlier, so we agree
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 9:16am Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Templeton_otg[/bold] wrote:
As someone who used to live in 18 Fountainwell place. Part of me is sad cause it was the best out of the lot in the area but sad thing is they where good flats at a time maybe they would have lasted longer if the then Glasgow city council had invested in them. But true what they say you can build houseing projects like New Gorbals and soon bridgeton and & Dalmarnock but they will still put the minority social misfits back into new clean homes who woudnt appreciate a good thing if it bit them[/quote] I have to agree - yes indeed, poor location, bad design and el cheapo construction had a lot to do with the failure of a lot of the schemes of the 50's and 60's. But the fact remains that PEOPLE are ultimately responsible for turning these places into ghettos as well.
Templeton_otg wrote:
As someone who used to live in 18 Fountainwell place. Part of me is sad cause it was the best out of the lot in the area but sad thing is they where good flats at a time maybe they would have lasted longer if the then Glasgow city council had invested in them. But true what they say you can build houseing projects like New Gorbals and soon bridgeton and & Dalmarnock but they will still put the minority social misfits back into new clean homes who woudnt appreciate a good thing if it bit them
I have to agree - yes indeed, poor location, bad design and el cheapo construction had a lot to do with the failure of a lot of the schemes of the 50's and 60's. But the fact remains that PEOPLE are ultimately responsible for turning these places into ghettos as well.
Posted by: BazC, Glasgow on 9:17am Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote]But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.[/quote]
So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh?
Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish.
The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance.
But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.
So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh?
Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish.
The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 10:26am Tue 24 Jun 08
I have to say though that some of the Fisher-Price inspired recladding on the surviving high rises that GHA wants to keep leaves a lot to be desired.
If we really DO need iconic high-rises to make Glasgow look imposing and important, then they should be hotels and office blocks slap bang in the centre like all other major cities. That way you also increase employment opportunities as well!
I have to say though that some of the Fisher-Price inspired recladding on the surviving high rises that GHA wants to keep leaves a lot to be desired.
If we really DO need iconic high-rises to make Glasgow look imposing and important, then they should be hotels and office blocks slap bang in the centre like all other major cities. That way you also increase employment opportunities as well!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:56am Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote][bold]BazC[/bold] wrote:
[quote]But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.[/quote] So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh? Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish. The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance. [/quote] For your information Baz - that midden is directly across the railway line from my house - its stinking and foul pollutants stench from underground
A whole load of land thats redundant - once cleared there will be a green stretch from Allander Street/Hawthorn Street right down to the M8 - would you prefer that the place was left in that condition
Do you agree that people in certain areas of Glasgow DON'T actually want to improve their social conditions?
Its the worst form of housing anybody could be forced to live in - have a look at the place - its half empty the place has been a midden since the early 90's nothing but a housing scheme with local conveniences to get out your face
Way to go!
BazC wrote:
But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.
So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh? Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish. The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance.
For your information Baz - that midden is directly across the railway line from my house - its stinking and foul pollutants stench from underground
A whole load of land thats redundant - once cleared there will be a green stretch from Allander Street/Hawthorn Street right down to the M8 - would you prefer that the place was left in that condition
Do you agree that people in certain areas of Glasgow DON'T actually want to improve their social conditions?
Its the worst form of housing anybody could be forced to live in - have a look at the place - its half empty the place has been a midden since the early 90's nothing but a housing scheme with local conveniences to get out your face
Way to go!
Posted by: BazC, Glasgow on 1:48pm Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote]But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.[/quote]
So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh?
Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish.
The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance.
But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.
So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh?
Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish.
The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance.
Posted by: jagger, usa on 3:43pm Tue 24 Jun 08
The high flats,people did enjoy living in them, when there was a sense of community. Bazc, sounds like you did not live in the sighthill high flat, you say structurally sound, does that include the lead paint, asbestos, dampness the list goes on. Yes the view,s are great,but come on their life span is over.
The high flats,people did enjoy living in them, when there was a sense of community. Bazc, sounds like you did not live in the sighthill high flat, you say structurally sound, does that include the lead paint, asbestos, dampness the list goes on. Yes the view,s are great,but come on their life span is over.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:20pm Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote][bold]BazC[/bold] wrote:
[quote]But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.[/quote] So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh? Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish. The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance. [/quote] Yes, I'll move away - just like the other 700,000 people who have moved away as far as possible from Glasgow
Mainly because its a dump full of multi storey flats which occupy masses of landspace and generates no economy for local communities
Very forward thinking indeed
Escape from Glasgow - very futuristic!
PS You don't need to act like a cyber parrot, your words were well read in the first sentence ;-)
BazC wrote:
But back to the multi's - yes, I may live only minutes from here, the place looks like something from Moscow's Inner City and should be removed - every single bit.
So the flats should be removed because you don't like the look of them is that what you are saying? And to hell with the residents of the Pinkston blocks who have voted to retain their homes eh? Do you ever consider that many people enjoy high density living and that the Glasgow tower blocks are an important aspect of the history of the city. I personally think they look impressive and imposing - especially the ones that have benefitted from new light features and re-cladding. I couldn't imagine entering Glasgow on the M8 from the east and seeing Red Road and Sighthill replaced by boring, monotonous low-rise rubbish. The high-rises help emphasise Glasgow'position as one of the largest urban centres in the UK. Perhaps if you all are so obsessed with bungalows and houses with gardens you should stop whinging, do us all a favour and relocate to some sleepy commuterville outside the city. At least then people who don't want a garden to maintain and who enjoy the view from living off the ground floor can live in such buildings without hearing the constant pleading for their demolition. What is the sense of demolishing structurally sound buildings that are nowhere near the end of their life span? A much more cost effective and sustainable solution would be to turf out the junkies and neds who have plagued many of the blocks and invest in renovation and maintenance.
Yes, I'll move away - just like the other 700,000 people who have moved away as far as possible from Glasgow
Mainly because its a dump full of multi storey flats which occupy masses of landspace and generates no economy for local communities
Very forward thinking indeed
Escape from Glasgow - very futuristic!
PS You don't need to act like a cyber parrot, your words were well read in the first sentence ;-)
Posted by: BazC, Glasgow on 10:09am Wed 25 Jun 08
[quote]PS You don't need to act like a cyber parrot, your words were well read in the first sentence ;-)[/quote]
He he no idea what happened there!! :-)
I accept all your points and I do accept that Glasgow's planners did go a bit high-rise crazy in the 60's and now the city is suffering from over provision of such housing. And I also agree that many of the multis are in a horrific condition - but this is the fault of GCC and the GHA who have not invested in essential maintenance as well as the countless scum bags within these buildings who have vandalised and terrorised with scant regard for their neighbours. Problems such as damp and graffitti are easily repaired - I am simply arguing that not all of the blocks should be demolished. Well managed high-rise blocks can prove to be a highly effective and sustainable form of social housing provided that they are safe, clean and regularly maintained.
No jagger I don't live in Sighthill and never have - but I know people who do and I have been inside several of the blocks. The condition of some of the Fountainwell blocks is nothing short of disgraceful and yes perhaps it is time that these are torn down. Maybe they could have kept the low lifes who have accelerated the demise of the scheme in the condemned blocks and not informed them of the imminent demolitions! Would solve a lot of problems I reckon! I wasn't aware that asbestos had been used in the Sighthill flats, I thought that this was just a problem with Red Road? You will know better than me having lived there.
What I do object to is the GHA completely ignoring the wishes of those living in the Pinkston blocks - as far as I am aware the tenants of these buildings voted in favour of retaining their homes when questionnaired by both the GHA and a residents organisation. So would it not be more fair to renovate the Pinkston blocks and demolish Fountainwell, creating a locality with a mixture of housing types and green space?
TMC - I doubt all 700,000 of Glasgow's residents have as big a problem with the high-rises as you do. You clearly despise them and that's fair enough that's your opinion. But can you not accept that some of the regenerated blocks that are well managed and that contain decent law abiding citizens may actually be an asset to the social housing stock?
PS You don't need to act like a cyber parrot, your words were well read in the first sentence ;-)
He he no idea what happened there!! :-)
I accept all your points and I do accept that Glasgow's planners did go a bit high-rise crazy in the 60's and now the city is suffering from over provision of such housing. And I also agree that many of the multis are in a horrific condition - but this is the fault of GCC and the GHA who have not invested in essential maintenance as well as the countless scum bags within these buildings who have vandalised and terrorised with scant regard for their neighbours. Problems such as damp and graffitti are easily repaired - I am simply arguing that not all of the blocks should be demolished. Well managed high-rise blocks can prove to be a highly effective and sustainable form of social housing provided that they are safe, clean and regularly maintained.
No jagger I don't live in Sighthill and never have - but I know people who do and I have been inside several of the blocks. The condition of some of the Fountainwell blocks is nothing short of disgraceful and yes perhaps it is time that these are torn down. Maybe they could have kept the low lifes who have accelerated the demise of the scheme in the condemned blocks and not informed them of the imminent demolitions! Would solve a lot of problems I reckon! I wasn't aware that asbestos had been used in the Sighthill flats, I thought that this was just a problem with Red Road? You will know better than me having lived there.
What I do object to is the GHA completely ignoring the wishes of those living in the Pinkston blocks - as far as I am aware the tenants of these buildings voted in favour of retaining their homes when questionnaired by both the GHA and a residents organisation. So would it not be more fair to renovate the Pinkston blocks and demolish Fountainwell, creating a locality with a mixture of housing types and green space?
TMC - I doubt all 700,000 of Glasgow's residents have as big a problem with the high-rises as you do. You clearly despise them and that's fair enough that's your opinion. But can you not accept that some of the regenerated blocks that are well managed and that contain decent law abiding citizens may actually be an asset to the social housing stock?
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