Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:35am Mon 23 Jun 08
What has this got to do with us?
Ok, its obvious that Dr Beeching was a muppet, some of these lines are probably one's he closed
And why are the Scottish Government not looking at more public transport opportunities in our country, does the SNP share the same enthusiasm as our neighbours in England - or will they follow in the footsteps of Labour - that being all talk and no action - business as usual then....
What has this got to do with us?
Ok, its obvious that Dr Beeching was a muppet, some of these lines are probably one's he closed
And why are the Scottish Government not looking at more public transport opportunities in our country, does the SNP share the same enthusiasm as our neighbours in England - or will they follow in the footsteps of Labour - that being all talk and no action - business as usual then....
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:58am Mon 23 Jun 08
I agree .
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 12:49pm Mon 23 Jun 08
TMC - this is, not untypically, a very poor piece in the ET. They seem not to have mentioned that two of these lines, would run to Scotland, one to Glasgow. None will be re-opened Beeching lines, although it's possible that new high-speed routes would use some old alignments. It's very important to Glasgow - as flying gets more expensive and unpleasant, we need fast rail connections (more than Manchester or Birmingham!).
What actually comes from these studies is another matter, of course. Westminster has been trying to distance itself from high-speed rail for some time...
TMC - this is, not untypically, a very poor piece in the ET. They seem not to have mentioned that two of these lines, would run to Scotland, one to Glasgow. None will be re-opened Beeching lines, although it's possible that new high-speed routes would use some old alignments. It's very important to Glasgow - as flying gets more expensive and unpleasant, we need fast rail connections (more than Manchester or Birmingham!).
What actually comes from these studies is another matter, of course. Westminster has been trying to distance itself from high-speed rail for some time...
Posted by: steve4349, larbet on 1:13pm Mon 23 Jun 08
high speed lines will only be built in the south of england to join up europe
under the labour stasi partys bribery plans.
high speed lines will only be built in the south of england to join up europe
under the labour stasi partys bribery plans.
Posted by: Judas, Glasgow on 4:41pm Mon 23 Jun 08
In the 1970s the French were faced with the upcoming problems over reaching capacity on their railways. Their solution – build an entirely new railway with new track, rolling stock and signalling AKA the TGV.
In Britain we were busy closing lines, including the Great Central Mainline, built in 1899 as a high speed line from London northwards. It was the last mainline railway built in Britain until the Channel Tunnel Rail link opened in 2003 – that’s a gap of 104 years. It had long straight sections, few sharp curves and even fewer sharp gradients, and was designed as a high speed line which would connect to a future Channel Tunnel. It was run down in the 1960s and closed 1969 under the Beeching cuts. Even today, sections of the viaducts and infrastructure are being removed around Leicester, losing the potential to reinstate this line.
I'd be truly amazed if any new lines were built in this country, though. We excel at little other than papering over the cracks.
In the 1970s the French were faced with the upcoming problems over reaching capacity on their railways. Their solution – build an entirely new railway with new track, rolling stock and signalling AKA the TGV.
In Britain we were busy closing lines, including the Great Central Mainline, built in 1899 as a high speed line from London northwards. It was the last mainline railway built in Britain until the Channel Tunnel Rail link opened in 2003 – that’s a gap of 104 years. It had long straight sections, few sharp curves and even fewer sharp gradients, and was designed as a high speed line which would connect to a future Channel Tunnel. It was run down in the 1960s and closed 1969 under the Beeching cuts. Even today, sections of the viaducts and infrastructure are being removed around Leicester, losing the potential to reinstate this line.
I'd be truly amazed if any new lines were built in this country, though. We excel at little other than papering over the cracks.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 9:22am Tue 24 Jun 08
I will believe it when I see it. Given it's taken 11 years to refurbish the 130-year old West Coast Main Line and it still will never be what was originally promised I'm a BIG sceptic.
Bear in mind that this is merely a study being commissioned by a bunch of consultants - the way everyone is talking it is definately going to happen, but bear in mind Network Rail have got to get the cash for all of this from the Government. Given that the anti-rail Tories will inevitably be in power by the time the results of this consultation is published the chances of anything happening from it are a big fat zilch.
I will believe it when I see it. Given it's taken 11 years to refurbish the 130-year old West Coast Main Line and it still will never be what was originally promised I'm a BIG sceptic.
Bear in mind that this is merely a study being commissioned by a bunch of consultants - the way everyone is talking it is definately going to happen, but bear in mind Network Rail have got to get the cash for all of this from the Government. Given that the anti-rail Tories will inevitably be in power by the time the results of this consultation is published the chances of anything happening from it are a big fat zilch.
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 7:11pm Tue 24 Jun 08
If the country realy wants to go forward in the high-speed rail sector, we should be investing in Mag-Lev trains for cross-country rail travel! Think about it, traveling to London from Glasgow at almost the same speed an aircraft flies the route... without all the hassell of airports and security (to an extent!), I know which of the two I would choose!
But Mag-Lev is futuristic and expensive and the decision makers are not visionary enought to considder it... or is it because they are in it to make money not spend it!?
If the country realy wants to go forward in the high-speed rail sector, we should be investing in Mag-Lev trains for cross-country rail travel! Think about it, traveling to London from Glasgow at almost the same speed an aircraft flies the route... without all the hassell of airports and security (to an extent!), I know which of the two I would choose!
But Mag-Lev is futuristic and expensive and the decision makers are not visionary enought to considder it... or is it because they are in it to make money not spend it!?