Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:02am Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote]Audit Scotland blamed [bold]poor management[/bold] for the massive price hike.[/quote]
[bold]Sack the management team... simple!!![/bold]
Oops, of course that won't be done because there are too many fat New Labour snouts feeding from that particular trough!
No doubt the £455M of extra public funds needed won't affect the very generous income made by these New Labour numpties; it will of course though reduce the funding for other silly, minor projects like initiatives in education, health and social welfare.
[italic]ET: can we have an update on whether the Riverside Museum debacle has broke the £100M barrier yet?[/italic]
Audit Scotland blamed poor management for the massive price hike.
Sack the management team... simple!!!
Oops, of course that won't be done because there are too many fat New Labour snouts feeding from that particular trough!
No doubt the £455M of extra public funds needed won't affect the very generous income made by these New Labour numpties; it will of course though reduce the funding for other silly, minor projects like initiatives in education, health and social welfare.
ET: can we have an update on whether the Riverside Museum debacle has broke the £100M barrier yet? Posted by: newman, glasgow on 11:19am Tue 24 Jun 08
The Labour party has had a long history of being incompetent with tax payers money (local or income tax)so why be shocked or even suprised at this price hike (it wont be the last, thats for sure!!!!!). Some examples are - the millenium dome, data bases for NHS and Social Security, etc.
Nearer home- the science tower, the squinty bridge, etc,
in the future-
the olympics in london and the diddy games in glasgow.
The Labour party has had a long history of being incompetent with tax payers money (local or income tax)so why be shocked or even suprised at this price hike (it wont be the last, thats for sure!!!!!). Some examples are - the millenium dome, data bases for NHS and Social Security, etc.
Nearer home- the science tower, the squinty bridge, etc,
in the future-
the olympics in london and the diddy games in glasgow.
Posted by: dan, West end on 11:28am Tue 24 Jun 08
The contracters have got the blank cheque,suitably filled in and just waiting for them to append their final figure,plucked from ? at the end of the job.Great system innit?
The contracters have got the blank cheque,suitably filled in and just waiting for them to append their final figure,plucked from ? at the end of the job.Great system innit?
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:30am Tue 24 Jun 08
And all those construction machines have got to run on diesel...the price of which is mercilessly rising at the moment. How long will it be before costs hit £1bn for a road which none of us will be able to afford to drive on before long!
And all those construction machines have got to run on diesel...the price of which is mercilessly rising at the moment. How long will it be before costs hit £1bn for a road which none of us will be able to afford to drive on before long!
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:35am Tue 24 Jun 08
Why isn't this a surprise...?
Why isn't this a surprise...?
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:59am Tue 24 Jun 08
Dont forget the Ugly parliament building and the trams all labours babies.
Dont forget the Ugly parliament building and the trams all labours babies.
Posted by: iloveglasgow, glasgow on 12:55pm Tue 24 Jun 08
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environ[bold]mental[/bold] ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!!
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environ
mental ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!!
Posted by: bob mckay, glasgow on 12:58pm Tue 24 Jun 08
Im chuffed i can just motor onto thr new motorway and head nse and w in a jiffy! Bring it on
Im chuffed i can just motor onto thr new motorway and head nse and w in a jiffy! Bring it on
Posted by: Seymour Hope, Glasgow on 1:15pm Tue 24 Jun 08
Worth every Penny
Posted by: Heather, Glasgow on 1:18pm Tue 24 Jun 08
Does that figure include payoffs and bungs? From the 15 February 08 Herald:
Another £200m has already been spent, including £180m paid out as compensation to businesses who had to relocate to make way for the road. The biggest beneficiaries included Willie Haughey, the millionaire owner of Rutherglen's City Refrigeration and, as it happens, one of the Labour Party's most important funders. He got £16.5m. Robert Morris, a furniture maker, received even more: around £35m.
Remember folks: when the money's funny, you won't read about it in Your Evening Times.
Does that figure include payoffs and bungs? From the 15 February 08 Herald:
Another £200m has already been spent, including £180m paid out as compensation to businesses who had to relocate to make way for the road. The biggest beneficiaries included Willie Haughey, the millionaire owner of Rutherglen's City Refrigeration and, as it happens, one of the Labour Party's most important funders. He got £16.5m. Robert Morris, a furniture maker, received even more: around £35m.
Remember folks: when the money's funny, you won't read about it in Your Evening Times.
Posted by: Heather, Glasgow on 1:20pm Tue 24 Jun 08
Should have mentioned that the above was for the M74, not M77. But isn't it funny how some people *just happen* to locate their premises where they are guaranteed to be demolished?
Should have mentioned that the above was for the M74, not M77. But isn't it funny how some people *just happen* to locate their premises where they are guaranteed to be demolished?
Posted by: Southsider71, Newton Mearns, Glasgow on 1:40pm Tue 24 Jun 08
Sooner this extension is built, the better...
Sooner this extension is built, the better...
Posted by: kenny, Glasgow on 1:41pm Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote][bold]iloveglasgow[/bold] wrote:
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environ[bold]mental[/bold] ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!! [/quote] Looked on the internet and found some dates:
Original M74 time scales
- The first tender process started in 2003.
- Work was due to start in 2004
- Work was due to be completed in 2008
Green groups launch legal bit to stop the project which causes [bold]at least £20M worth of delays[/bold]
Now the time scales
- Work starts May 2008
- Due to be completed 2011
You have to remember one of the purposes of this link was to improve transport links to be businesses in the the area surrounding Paisley and further down the coast.
[italic]Just makes you think, has business and jobs has been lost because this link was not built?[/italic]
iloveglasgow wrote:
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environmental ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!!
Looked on the internet and found some dates:
Original M74 time scales
- The first tender process started in 2003.
- Work was due to start in 2004
- Work was due to be completed in 2008
Green groups launch legal bit to stop the project which causes
at least £20M worth of delays
Now the time scales
- Work starts May 2008
- Due to be completed 2011
You have to remember one of the purposes of this link was to improve transport links to be businesses in the the area surrounding Paisley and further down the coast.
Just makes you think, has business and jobs has been lost because this link was not built? Posted by: steve4349, larbet on 1:53pm Tue 24 Jun 08
a goodjob the snp are now in charge,after the incompetent lab/lib government, who have left them this mess to clear up,do these figures include all the bungs and brown envelopes that wee wendy and labour msps are partial to
a goodjob the snp are now in charge,after the incompetent lab/lib government, who have left them this mess to clear up,do these figures include all the bungs and brown envelopes that wee wendy and labour msps are partial to
Posted by: Joe Shmo, Glagow on 2:30pm Tue 24 Jun 08
Good to see a lot of ' lets just keep building roads' muppets online today. A billion quid would have been better spent on other things. But hang on' I wouldn't have saved myslef an extra few minutes crossing the kingston bridge....Doh!
Good to see a lot of ' lets just keep building roads' muppets online today. A billion quid would have been better spent on other things. But hang on' I wouldn't have saved myslef an extra few minutes crossing the kingston bridge....Doh!
Posted by: George, EK GLW. on 2:54pm Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote][bold]iloveglasgow[/bold] wrote:
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environ[bold]mental[/bold] ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!! [/quote] A person after my own heart. Some one who will slag off all the Green protesters.
That lot have cost the whole of the UK loads of money and time wasting.
If they continue I may not live long enough to use the new M74 extension
iloveglasgow wrote:
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environmental ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!!
A person after my own heart. Some one who will slag off all the Green protesters.
That lot have cost the whole of the UK loads of money and time wasting.
If they continue I may not live long enough to use the new M74 extension
Posted by: Joe Shmo, Glagow on 3:14pm Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote][bold]George[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]iloveglasgow[/bold] wrote:
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environ[bold]mental[/bold] ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!! [/quote] A person after my own heart. Some one who will slag off all the Green protesters.
That lot have cost the whole of the UK loads of money and time wasting.
If they continue I may not live long enough to use the new M74 extension[/quote] Heres hoping!
George wrote:
iloveglasgow wrote:
instead of blaming george square or holyrood why not claim back lost moneys caused by the environmental ists (good name for them!!) and other muppets who have delayed this much need project since the kingston bridge was built in 1970. wonder what costs were then!!!!
A person after my own heart. Some one who will slag off all the Green protesters.
That lot have cost the whole of the UK loads of money and time wasting.
If they continue I may not live long enough to use the new M74 extension
Heres hoping!
Posted by: Judas, Glasgow on 3:37pm Tue 24 Jun 08
Never mind that company who got millions for a piece of their land which was valued at 5 figures.
Never mind the backhanders and brown envelopes that have switched hands during this debacle.
Never mind that fact that this road was scheduled to be opened this year and was originally costed at £125M.
Never mind that this is Britain's most expensive road.
No, let's blame some tree huggers for all this...
This country is going to hell in a handcart, and deservedly so.
Never mind that company who got millions for a piece of their land which was valued at 5 figures.
Never mind the backhanders and brown envelopes that have switched hands during this debacle.
Never mind that fact that this road was scheduled to be opened this year and was originally costed at £125M.
Never mind that this is Britain's most expensive road.
No, let's blame some tree huggers for all this...
This country is going to hell in a handcart, and deservedly so.
Posted by: George, EK GLW. on 3:49pm Tue 24 Jun 08
to Joe SHMO and Judas Glasgow .I am not certain whether your comments are sarcasm or meant to mean something else.
Could you clarify please?
to Joe SHMO and Judas Glasgow .I am not certain whether your comments are sarcasm or meant to mean something else.
Could you clarify please?
Posted by: iloveglasgow, STILL IN GLASGOW on 5:16pm Tue 24 Jun 08
the comment about timescales - have they never seen the cut off at the end of kingston bridge - that wasn`t left there to be a restaurant!!!
the comment about timescales - have they never seen the cut off at the end of kingston bridge - that wasn`t left there to be a restaurant!!!
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 6:33pm Tue 24 Jun 08
how many months will this new road last.
how many months will this new road last.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:15am Wed 25 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Joe Shmo[/bold] wrote:
Good to see a lot of ' lets just keep building roads' muppets online today. A billion quid would have been better spent on other things. But hang on' I wouldn't have saved myslef an extra few minutes crossing the kingston bridge....Doh! [/quote] Most Glaswegians would turn back the clock if they could and build an orbital ring road like the M25 in London or the M60 in Manchester instead of an uncompleted motorway blasting through the middle of the city. But that's what we're stuck with and we may as well finish the job now.
What has angered me right from the start about all the greenies in this whole debacle is that none of them have had to sit on the M8 at rush hour or face the stress of trying to rat run around the city to avoid the daily snarl ups because many of us motorists have no other option as the public transport options simply aren't there or are overpriced and unreliable.
It's the classic case of "it's not affecting me but I'll impose my will on someone else who is".
Joe Shmo wrote:
Good to see a lot of ' lets just keep building roads' muppets online today. A billion quid would have been better spent on other things. But hang on' I wouldn't have saved myslef an extra few minutes crossing the kingston bridge....Doh!
Most Glaswegians would turn back the clock if they could and build an orbital ring road like the M25 in London or the M60 in Manchester instead of an uncompleted motorway blasting through the middle of the city. But that's what we're stuck with and we may as well finish the job now.
What has angered me right from the start about all the greenies in this whole debacle is that none of them have had to sit on the M8 at rush hour or face the stress of trying to rat run around the city to avoid the daily snarl ups because many of us motorists have no other option as the public transport options simply aren't there or are overpriced and unreliable.
It's the classic case of "it's not affecting me but I'll impose my will on someone else who is".
Posted by: John Hamilton, Stirling on 12:07am Thu 26 Jun 08
The M74 extension IS NOT 'Britain's most expensive road'.
That honour goes to the *5 times more expensive* (than the M74 extension) Limehouse link road in London, the tunnel route connecting Limehouse to Canary Wharf and Poplar.
It would help if the dire 'Scottish' media got their facts right!
The M74 extension IS NOT 'Britain's most expensive road'.
That honour goes to the *5 times more expensive* (than the M74 extension) Limehouse link road in London, the tunnel route connecting Limehouse to Canary Wharf and Poplar.
It would help if the dire 'Scottish' media got their facts right!
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