Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 12:16pm Fri 27 Jun 08
I just wish some of the other supermarket chains could get a look-in; not just in Glasgow but in the whole of Scotland. Tesco seems to get its grubby paws into every population centre it can these days. I was on the train last week going down to London and there was a newish Tesco supermarket built right next to Lockerbie station that wasn't there before!
Why can't we have something different like a couple more Lidls or Aldis (if you're a skinflint) or a Sainsburys or Waitrose (if you're posh!)
I just wish some of the other supermarket chains could get a look-in; not just in Glasgow but in the whole of Scotland. Tesco seems to get its grubby paws into every population centre it can these days. I was on the train last week going down to London and there was a newish Tesco supermarket built right next to Lockerbie station that wasn't there before!
Why can't we have something different like a couple more Lidls or Aldis (if you're a skinflint) or a Sainsburys or Waitrose (if you're posh!)
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 12:31pm Fri 27 Jun 08
this issue will be out of the hands of tescos and glasgo council. Under the competition rules it will be illegal to build that store without bids from other companies. If it is built tesco and the council will be taken to court.
this issue will be out of the hands of tescos and glasgo council. Under the competition rules it will be illegal to build that store without bids from other companies. If it is built tesco and the council will be taken to court.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:33pm Fri 27 Jun 08
When a store like Tesco allegedly has one store for every postcode in the UK, surely alarm bells should be riging, due to the monopolisation of the market by this store.
However many new jobs this store might bring, by the time the disadvantages to the wider community are felt, and the damage is done it is too late to take a step backwards.
Those who think a Tesco would be a good thing clearly haven't accepted the damage such stores have done in other areas, where local traders have been killed off, and those who rely on them i.e. the elderly, and vulnerable are forced to shop in giant supermarkets.
How many of us buy 3 for the price of 2 etc and subsequently bin - waste alot of foods we buy?
And, how many of us genuinely believe the ethics of such stores, and terms and conditions for their staff are nearly as good as they should be.
Time for some people to have a reality check, and develop some moral standards, otherwise giant supermarkets will get away with their far from ideal practicses, and food waste on a huge scale.
Starving people in Africa, yet we throw away so much food here in the UK, and the Western world. Maybe supermarkets only encourage disgusting greed, and waste.
When a store like Tesco allegedly has one store for every postcode in the UK, surely alarm bells should be riging, due to the monopolisation of the market by this store.
However many new jobs this store might bring, by the time the disadvantages to the wider community are felt, and the damage is done it is too late to take a step backwards.
Those who think a Tesco would be a good thing clearly haven't accepted the damage such stores have done in other areas, where local traders have been killed off, and those who rely on them i.e. the elderly, and vulnerable are forced to shop in giant supermarkets.
How many of us buy 3 for the price of 2 etc and subsequently bin - waste alot of foods we buy?
And, how many of us genuinely believe the ethics of such stores, and terms and conditions for their staff are nearly as good as they should be.
Time for some people to have a reality check, and develop some moral standards, otherwise giant supermarkets will get away with their far from ideal practicses, and food waste on a huge scale.
Starving people in Africa, yet we throw away so much food here in the UK, and the Western world. Maybe supermarkets only encourage disgusting greed, and waste.
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 12:40pm Fri 27 Jun 08
within teh story it states it is hoped social housing will be built. exactly who do the council think will build this? Exactly how many social housing flats has Glasgow harbour that well know group of philanthropists but so far. What makes this little Britain look alike councillor think that they will build social housing on this site? Will he say pretty please and wear his rubber suit or will the council make it a condition of teh sale of the piece of land?
Lets just be done with the whole matter. landscape the area linking it to the art gallery and kelvingrove park as a river walk which will lead people down to the new transport museum making it a natural extension of the park and a wonderful netowrk to link the KG art gallery and the new museum which will help to link it to the exisiting westend community as opposed to it sitting isolated surrounded by empty for sale /to let flats
within teh story it states it is hoped social housing will be built. exactly who do the council think will build this? Exactly how many social housing flats has Glasgow harbour that well know group of philanthropists but so far. What makes this little Britain look alike councillor think that they will build social housing on this site? Will he say pretty please and wear his rubber suit or will the council make it a condition of teh sale of the piece of land?
Lets just be done with the whole matter. landscape the area linking it to the art gallery and kelvingrove park as a river walk which will lead people down to the new transport museum making it a natural extension of the park and a wonderful netowrk to link the KG art gallery and the new museum which will help to link it to the exisiting westend community as opposed to it sitting isolated surrounded by empty for sale /to let flats
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 12:42pm Fri 27 Jun 08
Will the council get the money from Tesco for strengthening the bridge which was weakened by the destruction of the ticket office?
Will the council get the money from Tesco for strengthening the bridge which was weakened by the destruction of the ticket office?
Posted by: GLWBEAR, GLASGOW on 12:58pm Fri 27 Jun 08
While I am not a fan of Tesco. Partick needs a larger store than is currently provided by Morrisons. In all guises as presto, safeway and latterly Morrison it has had a virtual monopoly.
There is no store even of comparable size nearby. The Byres road Somerfield and Crow Rd Sainbury's are too small so no competition. They can charge higher prices as a result. The nearest large store is Asda in Helen Street in Govan.
While I am not a fan of Tesco. Partick needs a larger store than is currently provided by Morrisons. In all guises as presto, safeway and latterly Morrison it has had a virtual monopoly.
There is no store even of comparable size nearby. The Byres road Somerfield and Crow Rd Sainbury's are too small so no competition. They can charge higher prices as a result. The nearest large store is Asda in Helen Street in Govan.
Posted by: steve4349, larbet on 1:09pm Fri 27 Jun 08
tesco bring cheap food for the locals and jobs for the locals,they develop sites others shun,they have done wonders in removing manky wee unhygenic shops from our cities and towns,and the tastings you get when you shop are magic,cheap value lines and cheap booze a students dream,and the luxury lines and ready meals are fantastic,every village should have a tesco,every corner shop should be a tesco,
tesco bring cheap food for the locals and jobs for the locals,they develop sites others shun,they have done wonders in removing manky wee unhygenic shops from our cities and towns,and the tastings you get when you shop are magic,cheap value lines and cheap booze a students dream,and the luxury lines and ready meals are fantastic,every village should have a tesco,every corner shop should be a tesco,
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 1:16pm Fri 27 Jun 08
next time you go to tesco note down teh fruit veg and meat prices then go along to your local fruit and veg shop and butchers and you'll see that their prices offer better value. unfortunatly people assume the supermarklets are cheaper when in fact they are not. Partick can do without this monolith which will ultimatley not be a positive addition to a thriving area. if youw ant to see the future go up to Springburn and see the destrucion of a once thriving area due to a large supermarket and a dual carriage way
next time you go to tesco note down teh fruit veg and meat prices then go along to your local fruit and veg shop and butchers and you'll see that their prices offer better value. unfortunatly people assume the supermarklets are cheaper when in fact they are not. Partick can do without this monolith which will ultimatley not be a positive addition to a thriving area. if youw ant to see the future go up to Springburn and see the destrucion of a once thriving area due to a large supermarket and a dual carriage way
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 1:27pm Fri 27 Jun 08
[quote]Gordon Bickerton, of Stop Tesco Owning Partick, said: "Housing is on our wish list for the land - housing with landscaping to the river so people could make good use of the river frontage."[/quote]
Oh aye, like that's going to happen. Dream on. Any land GCC can sell off, they will. And as for "affordable housing" there is no such thing these days.
Gordon Bickerton, of Stop Tesco Owning Partick, said: "Housing is on our wish list for the land - housing with landscaping to the river so people could make good use of the river frontage."
Oh aye, like that's going to happen. Dream on. Any land GCC can sell off, they will. And as for "affordable housing" there is no such thing these days.
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 1:31pm Fri 27 Jun 08
The new wee Tesco express up the road at the old creme de la creme is not a patch on the Nisa Store next door. I don't waste my time popping in any more after consistently getting better deals on odds and ends.
Use the waste ground for something more useful than another soulless excuse to go and buy stuff.
The new wee Tesco express up the road at the old creme de la creme is not a patch on the Nisa Store next door. I don't waste my time popping in any more after consistently getting better deals on odds and ends.
Use the waste ground for something more useful than another soulless excuse to go and buy stuff.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 2:06pm Fri 27 Jun 08
That Nisa store has gone downhill, Fanto, what's happened to all their deals?!!
That Nisa store has gone downhill, Fanto, what's happened to all their deals?!!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 3:55pm Fri 27 Jun 08
Is the Nisa what used to be Mo's 24-hour store? I used to live above that.
I can't really ever see that land being used for 'affordable' social housing. It'll just become another development of £250k flats.
Is the Nisa what used to be Mo's 24-hour store? I used to live above that.
I can't really ever see that land being used for 'affordable' social housing. It'll just become another development of £250k flats.
Posted by: Tarry breeks, Partick on 4:16pm Fri 27 Jun 08
Why don't they just make the land available for allotments? There was story in here recently saying there was a 7 year waiting list. How about we grow some of our own food instead of having Tesco charge us a fortune for it?
Why don't they just make the land available for allotments? There was story in here recently saying there was a 7 year waiting list. How about we grow some of our own food instead of having Tesco charge us a fortune for it?
Posted by: tobester, summerston, glasgow on 5:13pm Fri 27 Jun 08
Lets just leave partick as it is...a dump...tesco are better of out of the place (and NO i don't work for them), all it is good for is a horrible wee morrisons, a small sainsbury's (which isn't too bad) an M&S food (for people who are too posh to shop at morrisons), and a somerfield which isn't too great. Partick isn't what it used to be, but it does have its pubs and charity shops, so the jakes, neds and hippies will be happy.
Lets just leave partick as it is...a dump...tesco are better of out of the place (and NO i don't work for them), all it is good for is a horrible wee morrisons, a small sainsbury's (which isn't too bad) an M&S food (for people who are too posh to shop at morrisons), and a somerfield which isn't too great. Partick isn't what it used to be, but it does have its pubs and charity shops, so the jakes, neds and hippies will be happy.
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 5:34pm Fri 27 Jun 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
When a store like Tesco allegedly has one store for every postcode in the UK, surely alarm bells should be riging, due to the monopolisation of the market by this store. However many new jobs this store might bring, by the time the disadvantages to the wider community are felt, and the damage is done it is too late to take a step backwards. Those who think a Tesco would be a good thing clearly haven't accepted the damage such stores have done in other areas, where local traders have been killed off, and those who rely on them i.e. the elderly, and vulnerable are forced to shop in giant supermarkets. How many of us buy 3 for the price of 2 etc and subsequently bin - waste alot of foods we buy? And, how many of us genuinely believe the ethics of such stores, and terms and conditions for their staff are nearly as good as they should be. Time for some people to have a reality check, and develop some moral standards, otherwise giant supermarkets will get away with their far from ideal practicses, and food waste on a huge scale. Starving people in Africa, yet we throw away so much food here in the UK, and the Western world. Maybe supermarkets only encourage disgusting greed, and waste. [/quote] Maybe you were correct mis-typed 'riging' for ringing!!!
People Power wrote:
When a store like Tesco allegedly has one store for every postcode in the UK, surely alarm bells should be riging, due to the monopolisation of the market by this store. However many new jobs this store might bring, by the time the disadvantages to the wider community are felt, and the damage is done it is too late to take a step backwards. Those who think a Tesco would be a good thing clearly haven't accepted the damage such stores have done in other areas, where local traders have been killed off, and those who rely on them i.e. the elderly, and vulnerable are forced to shop in giant supermarkets. How many of us buy 3 for the price of 2 etc and subsequently bin - waste alot of foods we buy? And, how many of us genuinely believe the ethics of such stores, and terms and conditions for their staff are nearly as good as they should be. Time for some people to have a reality check, and develop some moral standards, otherwise giant supermarkets will get away with their far from ideal practicses, and food waste on a huge scale. Starving people in Africa, yet we throw away so much food here in the UK, and the Western world. Maybe supermarkets only encourage disgusting greed, and waste.
Maybe you were correct mis-typed 'riging' for ringing!!!
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 8:22pm Fri 27 Jun 08
[quote][bold]RapidAssistant[/bold] wrote:
I just wish some of the other supermarket chains could get a look-in; not just in Glasgow but in the whole of Scotland. Tesco seems to get its grubby paws into every population centre it can these days. I was on the train last week going down to London and there was a newish Tesco supermarket built right next to Lockerbie station that wasn't there before! Why can't we have something different like a couple more Lidls or Aldis (if you're a skinflint) or a Sainsburys or Waitrose (if you're posh!)[/quote] Keep with the posh, have you tried the others fruit, keeps you off the one-of, never mind five a day.
RapidAssistant wrote:
I just wish some of the other supermarket chains could get a look-in; not just in Glasgow but in the whole of Scotland. Tesco seems to get its grubby paws into every population centre it can these days. I was on the train last week going down to London and there was a newish Tesco supermarket built right next to Lockerbie station that wasn't there before! Why can't we have something different like a couple more Lidls or Aldis (if you're a skinflint) or a Sainsburys or Waitrose (if you're posh!)
Keep with the posh, have you tried the others fruit, keeps you off the one-of, never mind five a day.
Posted by: Darren Wood, Glasgow on 11:50pm Fri 27 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Eh?[/bold] wrote:
within teh story it states it is hoped social housing will be built. exactly who do the council think will build this? Exactly how many social housing flats has Glasgow harbour that well know group of philanthropists but so far. What makes this little Britain look alike councillor think that they will build social housing on this site? Will he say pretty please and wear his rubber suit or will the council make it a condition of teh sale of the piece of land? Lets just be done with the whole matter. landscape the area linking it to the art gallery and kelvingrove park as a river walk which will lead people down to the new transport museum making it a natural extension of the park and a wonderful netowrk to link the KG art gallery and the new museum which will help to link it to the exisiting westend community as opposed to it sitting isolated surrounded by empty for sale /to let flats[/quote] Absolutely! How dare a local councillor call for something which would actually benefit the local community.
Outrageous! Down with that sort of thing!
Eh? wrote:
within teh story it states it is hoped social housing will be built. exactly who do the council think will build this? Exactly how many social housing flats has Glasgow harbour that well know group of philanthropists but so far. What makes this little Britain look alike councillor think that they will build social housing on this site? Will he say pretty please and wear his rubber suit or will the council make it a condition of teh sale of the piece of land? Lets just be done with the whole matter. landscape the area linking it to the art gallery and kelvingrove park as a river walk which will lead people down to the new transport museum making it a natural extension of the park and a wonderful netowrk to link the KG art gallery and the new museum which will help to link it to the exisiting westend community as opposed to it sitting isolated surrounded by empty for sale /to let flats
Absolutely! How dare a local councillor call for something which would actually benefit the local community.
Outrageous! Down with that sort of thing!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:20pm Sat 28 Jun 08
[quote][bold]GLWBEAR[/bold] wrote:
While I am not a fan of Tesco. Partick needs a larger store than is currently provided by Morrisons. In all guises as presto, safeway and latterly Morrison it has had a virtual monopoly. There is no store even of comparable size nearby. The Byres road Somerfield and Crow Rd Sainbury's are too small so no competition. They can charge higher prices as a result. The nearest large store is Asda in Helen Street in Govan.[/quote]
Utter rubbish, it is not the size of the store or indeed which store that Partick, or anywhere else needs....
it is the attitude of the people who use Partick who need to buck up their ideas, and accept what stores we already have..... instead of this disease of greed, and always wanting more, bigger stores, better value, and increased facilities on offer within stores.
Lets take a look a supermarkets then, and now.
And compare the huge differences we are seeing in supermarkets, which in turn are outstripping many other local ameneties, and conveniences for those less fortunate, physically able, or well enough to go around large supermarkets.
Post Office services within supermarkets.
Passport Photograph booths.
Cafe's.
Electrical goods.
Clothes.
Plants - flowers.
Kitchenware.
the list of additional services and lines put on offer to entice people to buy far more than they intended when entering supermarkets is quite frankly disgusting.
Most folk who go to supermarkets do so for their foods, drinks and cleaning materials.
Those who are sucked into the marketing - advertising stunts, special offers, and cheap goods - due to cheap labour in far eastern countries ought to think again.
Just how many local shops are forced to feel the pinch and struggle due to supermarkets - i.e. Tesco undercutting them, stealing their trade, and potentially seeing yet more empty units - shops in Partick, Byres Road and beyond.
Aren't there enough charity shops in Partick already, without more of them cropping up due to the fact they are exempt from taxation.
Before Tesco think of building their cheap, [italic]"every little hurts"[/italic]store, maybe they ought to target an area where there is a shortage of supermarkets, or shops generally - instead of pushing the levels of congestion, pollution, noise and shop closures to new levels, and seeing Partick implode as a result.
GLWBEAR wrote:
While I am not a fan of Tesco. Partick needs a larger store than is currently provided by Morrisons. In all guises as presto, safeway and latterly Morrison it has had a virtual monopoly. There is no store even of comparable size nearby. The Byres road Somerfield and Crow Rd Sainbury's are too small so no competition. They can charge higher prices as a result. The nearest large store is Asda in Helen Street in Govan.
Utter rubbish, it is not the size of the store or indeed which store that Partick, or anywhere else needs....
it is the attitude of the people who use Partick who need to buck up their ideas, and accept what stores we already have..... instead of this disease of greed, and always wanting more, bigger stores, better value, and increased facilities on offer within stores.
Lets take a look a supermarkets then, and now.
And compare the huge differences we are seeing in supermarkets, which in turn are outstripping many other local ameneties, and conveniences for those less fortunate, physically able, or well enough to go around large supermarkets.
Post Office services within supermarkets.
Passport Photograph booths.
Cafe's.
Electrical goods.
Clothes.
Plants - flowers.
Kitchenware.
the list of additional services and lines put on offer to entice people to buy far more than they intended when entering supermarkets is quite frankly disgusting.
Most folk who go to supermarkets do so for their foods, drinks and cleaning materials.
Those who are sucked into the marketing - advertising stunts, special offers, and cheap goods - due to cheap labour in far eastern countries ought to think again.
Just how many local shops are forced to feel the pinch and struggle due to supermarkets - i.e. Tesco undercutting them, stealing their trade, and potentially seeing yet more empty units - shops in Partick, Byres Road and beyond.
Aren't there enough charity shops in Partick already, without more of them cropping up due to the fact they are exempt from taxation.
Before Tesco think of building their cheap,
"every little hurts"store, maybe they ought to target an area where there is a shortage of supermarkets, or shops generally - instead of pushing the levels of congestion, pollution, noise and shop closures to new levels, and seeing Partick implode as a result.
Posted by: murdo, partick on 2:32pm Sun 29 Jun 08
Morrisons have a planning application in for expansion,Tesco will be opening a new express shop in Dumbarton Road beside the Comet store.
Size doesnt matter its the quality of goods and cheap Scottish produce on sale without the over wrapped rubbish they sell. Lets fight for basics rather than bulk and more catering for single people in stores, they want single items rather than Bogof and multipacks. Local shops that are left are catering for this at a cost.
Bring back the brown paper bags and reduce costs and deplasticsise the planet.
Morrisons have a planning application in for expansion,Tesco will be opening a new express shop in Dumbarton Road beside the Comet store.
Size doesnt matter its the quality of goods and cheap Scottish produce on sale without the over wrapped rubbish they sell. Lets fight for basics rather than bulk and more catering for single people in stores, they want single items rather than Bogof and multipacks. Local shops that are left are catering for this at a cost.
Bring back the brown paper bags and reduce costs and deplasticsise the planet.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 3:16pm Sun 29 Jun 08
Exactly, people are far to quick to purchase far more than they intended on getting from their lists when they see all the tempting bargains, and special offers.
It's time we all pushed all our supermarkets to stock what we require at a basic level, not in bulk, without all the fancy, overwrapped, fattening, and excessively sugared - salty foods.
Also, with [italic]"use by dates"[/italic] on fresh products within supermarkets the amount of wasteage either by us buying the goods, or supermarkets having to dispose of them the question of excessively stocking shelves, and having such wide ranges of foods must also be questioned.
As much as we love our variety of foods, goods and fresh products unless we drastically cut the amount of food waste our country produces we are ultimately contributing towards prolonging the starvation in Africa, and other parts of the world.
We must take far more responsibility towards forcing our supermarkets stock enough that their levels of wasteage are cut, and in portion sizes, and amounts that all people can use - not just bulk, and packaged fruit & veg.
I hope the rumours I have heard of Tesco pulling out of Beith Street, and moving their store to the Glasgow Harbour Development site are true, as this site in Partick is already overdeveloped with Supermarkets, and the roads cannot cope with the aditional traffic a Tesco would bring.
Exactly, people are far to quick to purchase far more than they intended on getting from their lists when they see all the tempting bargains, and special offers.
It's time we all pushed all our supermarkets to stock what we require at a basic level, not in bulk, without all the fancy, overwrapped, fattening, and excessively sugared - salty foods.
Also, with
"use by dates" on fresh products within supermarkets the amount of wasteage either by us buying the goods, or supermarkets having to dispose of them the question of excessively stocking shelves, and having such wide ranges of foods must also be questioned.
As much as we love our variety of foods, goods and fresh products unless we drastically cut the amount of food waste our country produces we are ultimately contributing towards prolonging the starvation in Africa, and other parts of the world.
We must take far more responsibility towards forcing our supermarkets stock enough that their levels of wasteage are cut, and in portion sizes, and amounts that all people can use - not just bulk, and packaged fruit & veg.
I hope the rumours I have heard of Tesco pulling out of Beith Street, and moving their store to the Glasgow Harbour Development site are true, as this site in Partick is already overdeveloped with Supermarkets, and the roads cannot cope with the aditional traffic a Tesco would bring.
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Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 6:01pm Sun 29 Jun 08
[quote]the list of additional services and lines put on offer to entice people to buy far more than they intended when entering supermarkets is quite frankly disgusting.[/quote]
[quote]Those who are sucked into the marketing - advertising stunts, special offers, and cheap goods[/quote]
Do you actually think that people are that stupid? Strange kind of fabian view of the world; not 'people power' at all. More 'people should live according to my set of principles'.
Supermarkets, like any business, exist because of consumer demand. Surely it's a good think that you can go to a Tesco Extra and pick up a new kettle, or some tea towels or pillows or whatever while doing your weekly shop. Sure, everyone would like to have the time and freedom from other commitments to spend a day fannying around a load of 'local' shops.
And I say 'local' because its such a misnomer. Local by vicinity yes, but no one actually goes into their local spar or whatever and starts questioning the bloke about the ethical and environmental credentials of produce. Yet we're all happy to do that with major suppliers. So, is it not supermarkets which actually have the higher environmental and ethical quality standards as a result?
Most people shop at Tesco or Asda for the convenience and that - and price (try filling a shopping trolley with a weekly shop for your family at your local store and see how much that sets you back) - are what people actually want. There's no arguning with that. Tesco isn't expanding because people don't want to shop there.
the list of additional services and lines put on offer to entice people to buy far more than they intended when entering supermarkets is quite frankly disgusting.
Those who are sucked into the marketing - advertising stunts, special offers, and cheap goods
Do you actually think that people are that stupid? Strange kind of fabian view of the world; not 'people power' at all. More 'people should live according to my set of principles'.
Supermarkets, like any business, exist because of consumer demand. Surely it's a good think that you can go to a Tesco Extra and pick up a new kettle, or some tea towels or pillows or whatever while doing your weekly shop. Sure, everyone would like to have the time and freedom from other commitments to spend a day fannying around a load of 'local' shops.
And I say 'local' because its such a misnomer. Local by vicinity yes, but no one actually goes into their local spar or whatever and starts questioning the bloke about the ethical and environmental credentials of produce. Yet we're all happy to do that with major suppliers. So, is it not supermarkets which actually have the higher environmental and ethical quality standards as a result?
Most people shop at Tesco or Asda for the convenience and that - and price (try filling a shopping trolley with a weekly shop for your family at your local store and see how much that sets you back) - are what people actually want. There's no arguning with that. Tesco isn't expanding because people don't want to shop there.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:19pm Sun 29 Jun 08
[quote] not 'people power' at all. More 'people should live according to my set of principles'.[/quote]
You have your beliefs I have mine, but where people powers are concerned I genuinely worry that the public are being overwhelmed by consumerism, and when it comes to having a choice it's fairly evident who comes out trumps.
Cheaper, profiteering supermarkets versus more expensive, independant local traders. Hardly fair, yet - if we don't use our local shops we lose them. The kind of "people power" I speak of is that of arguing for what the customer - consumer needs, or wants, and what the apathetic lot out there have to thik more about if not for the environment, for their own sense of self, and cutting the huge amounts of waste we see supermarkets produce.
[quote]So, is it not supermarkets which actually have the higher environmental and ethical quality standards as a result?[/quote]
I don't think it is actually. Just how many people bother to check the country of origin for their foods, especially those freshly grown, and more especially out of season.
Not only are we doing a dis-service to our local farmers, but the environment, when you consider the airmiles some foods have travelled to reach our plates.
Perhaps people ought to think more carefully about what they buy? where it is made? how ethical it is? and whether it was made in a sweat shop ? Just how many of us bother to even think that way before we shop ? NOT ENOUGH OF US!
Those of us who have our own allotments, shop at farmers markets, or use local shops - fishmongers etc will know that supermarkets are not best for everything. Far from it.
You say: [quote]Surely it's a good thing that you can go to a Tesco Extra and pick up a new kettle, or some tea towels or pillows or whatever while doing your weekly shop.[/quote]
Not, if the Supermarket in question is moving in, and potentially undercutting, or impacting on local traders - how can they possibly compete with a giant like Tesco ?
Point being that the irreparable damage a store of Tesco's magnitude can do to local communities is unimaginable for some, who haven't even given it a thought, or deny the diversity of Particks shops will suffer.
Well those who deny this should take a look at what shops are in Partick now, and compare it with 6 - 12 months after the Tesco hits Partick.
We've already lost a number of quality stores, including a fishmonger, tools store, (Vics Tools) clothes shop ("Kirkwood Fashinons") and for those that remember "What Everyone Wants!"
Lets not see any more shops be converted into offices, estate agents, charity shops, cafe's or tanning parlours.......
not 'people power' at all. More 'people should live according to my set of principles'.
You have your beliefs I have mine, but where people powers are concerned I genuinely worry that the public are being overwhelmed by consumerism, and when it comes to having a choice it's fairly evident who comes out trumps.
Cheaper, profiteering supermarkets versus more expensive, independant local traders. Hardly fair, yet - if we don't use our local shops we lose them. The kind of "people power" I speak of is that of arguing for what the customer - consumer needs, or wants, and what the apathetic lot out there have to thik more about if not for the environment, for their own sense of self, and cutting the huge amounts of waste we see supermarkets produce.
So, is it not supermarkets which actually have the higher environmental and ethical quality standards as a result?
I don't think it is actually. Just how many people bother to check the country of origin for their foods, especially those freshly grown, and more especially out of season.
Not only are we doing a dis-service to our local farmers, but the environment, when you consider the airmiles some foods have travelled to reach our plates.
Perhaps people ought to think more carefully about what they buy? where it is made? how ethical it is? and whether it was made in a sweat shop ? Just how many of us bother to even think that way before we shop ? NOT ENOUGH OF US!
Those of us who have our own allotments, shop at farmers markets, or use local shops - fishmongers etc will know that supermarkets are not best for everything. Far from it.
You say:
Surely it's a good thing that you can go to a Tesco Extra and pick up a new kettle, or some tea towels or pillows or whatever while doing your weekly shop.
Not, if the Supermarket in question is moving in, and potentially undercutting, or impacting on local traders - how can they possibly compete with a giant like Tesco ?
Point being that the irreparable damage a store of Tesco's magnitude can do to local communities is unimaginable for some, who haven't even given it a thought, or deny the diversity of Particks shops will suffer.
Well those who deny this should take a look at what shops are in Partick now, and compare it with 6 - 12 months after the Tesco hits Partick.
We've already lost a number of quality stores, including a fishmonger, tools store, (Vics Tools) clothes shop ("Kirkwood Fashinons") and for those that remember "What Everyone Wants!"
Lets not see any more shops be converted into offices, estate agents, charity shops, cafe's or tanning parlours.......
Posted by: Senga Haw, MooMooland on 12:55am Mon 30 Jun 08
"Aileen Colleran, Labour councillor for Partick West, was not available to comment."
Aye, no change there then eh? Useless Labour numpty too pre-occupied with the business of choosing the next numpty tae lead the mafia.
"Aileen Colleran, Labour councillor for Partick West, was not available to comment."
Aye, no change there then eh? Useless Labour numpty too pre-occupied with the business of choosing the next numpty tae lead the mafia.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:43am Mon 30 Jun 08
Don't mention that womens name.
Her absence and failure to attend Partick Community Councils meetings has been well noted, especially as she instigated the rota of councillors in the first place.
Also, the length of time she takes to respond to e-mails is far longer than other councillors in the same ward.
The only time Aileen Colleran was against this Tesco was pre-election time, when she wanted to win votes. Notice how councillors conveniently all change their stance, and position to suit, depending on whether an election is due or not ?
Unless we all use and attend our councillors surgeries alot more, and ensure their jobs are worth the wages they are payed, we cannot complain about what the are doing, or not doing. Simple as that!
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Lets hope that Tesco do the right thing, and take their store elsewhere.
Those who think they want a Tesco clearly don't realise the congestion, polluion, noise and disruption such a store would cause to the area.
We are already seeing Particks volumes of traffic on the roads increasing with the numbers of new housing developments, but are the roads being upgraded, re-surfaced, or improved to allow for so much traffic ?
Parking within the West End, and Partick is being abused, and even disabled and parent and child spaces are being abused at Crow Road Retail park.
People are taking their cars out, and about locally far more than they need to, and this kind of behaviour needs to change.
A Tesco would only bring far more people into the area, primarily by car combined with the existing traffic, cars, and buses trying to keep to their timetables a Tesco would only make Dumbarton Road even worse than it is already.
Don't mention that womens name.
Her absence and failure to attend Partick Community Councils meetings has been well noted, especially as she instigated the rota of councillors in the first place.
Also, the length of time she takes to respond to e-mails is far longer than other councillors in the same ward.
The only time Aileen Colleran was against this Tesco was pre-election time, when she wanted to win votes. Notice how councillors conveniently all change their stance, and position to suit, depending on whether an election is due or not ?
Unless we all use and attend our councillors surgeries alot more, and ensure their jobs are worth the wages they are payed, we cannot complain about what the are doing, or not doing. Simple as that!
................
Lets hope that Tesco do the right thing, and take their store elsewhere.
Those who think they want a Tesco clearly don't realise the congestion, polluion, noise and disruption such a store would cause to the area.
We are already seeing Particks volumes of traffic on the roads increasing with the numbers of new housing developments, but are the roads being upgraded, re-surfaced, or improved to allow for so much traffic ?
Parking within the West End, and Partick is being abused, and even disabled and parent and child spaces are being abused at Crow Road Retail park.
People are taking their cars out, and about locally far more than they need to, and this kind of behaviour needs to change.
A Tesco would only bring far more people into the area, primarily by car combined with the existing traffic, cars, and buses trying to keep to their timetables a Tesco would only make Dumbarton Road even worse than it is already.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:49am Mon 30 Jun 08
b.t.w. Kenny McLean has to be the best of the councillors in the ward for responding to e-mails, answering his own calls at the city chambers etc.
Although, I do feel sorry for him, with his hair loss far more apparent since he took up the post as councillor LOL ;-)
b.t.w. Kenny McLean has to be the best of the councillors in the ward for responding to e-mails, answering his own calls at the city chambers etc.
Although, I do feel sorry for him, with his hair loss far more apparent since he took up the post as councillor LOL ;-)
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 10:40am Tue 1 Jul 08
[quote]Cheaper, profiteering supermarkets versus more expensive, independant local traders[/quote]
Sorry, but what kind of world do you live in where local traders don't want to make a profit?
[quote]We've already lost a number of quality stores, including a fishmonger, tools store, (Vics Tools) clothes shop ("Kirkwood Fashinons") and for those that remember "What Everyone Wants!"[/quote]
Really? That's your argument? Oh no, what'll we do without Kirkwood Fashions? And you're confident that all the products in Vic's tools, Kirkwood Fashions or What Everyone Wants were made to the highest ethical standards are you?
The people who make choices based on environmental and ethical considrations, like myself, and who can afford to do so, can make these choices in supermarkets. I'll bet that I can do a family shop more cheaply than you can by shopping in Tesco while still buying green and fair products.
I'm not defending Tesco per se, but only sticking to the basic principle that business is driven by demand.
Cheaper, profiteering supermarkets versus more expensive, independant local traders
Sorry, but what kind of world do you live in where local traders don't want to make a profit?
We've already lost a number of quality stores, including a fishmonger, tools store, (Vics Tools) clothes shop ("Kirkwood Fashinons") and for those that remember "What Everyone Wants!"
Really? That's your argument? Oh no, what'll we do without Kirkwood Fashions? And you're confident that all the products in Vic's tools, Kirkwood Fashions or What Everyone Wants were made to the highest ethical standards are you?
The people who make choices based on environmental and ethical considrations, like myself, and who can afford to do so, can make these choices in supermarkets. I'll bet that I can do a family shop more cheaply than you can by shopping in Tesco while still buying green and fair products.
I'm not defending Tesco per se, but only sticking to the basic principle that business is driven by demand.
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