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Future’s grim for the Shawlands Arcade
 
The outdated Shawlands Arcade is half empty and littered with To Let signs after the departure of major retailers
The outdated Shawlands Arcade is half empty and littered with To Let signs after the departure of major retailers
 
 
Archie Graham said demolition is an option
Archie Graham said demolition is an option
 

by Sarah Swain

FOR years it has been at the centre of calls for a major revamp. But despite action plans, the launch of a steering group and even new owners, Shawlands Arcade is today still nearly half empty with rows of To Let signs.

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ONE of Glasgow's earliest shopping malls, Shawlands Arcade was built in the 1960s.

The centre is artificially raised above street level by about 10ft.

It was believed the arcade would be made safer for children by lifting and pedestrianising it.

But by the early 90s its style was fading and critics said it had become neglected and rundown.

In the mid-90s plans for redevelopment to attract new units were launched.

The Burrell Hotel, which was part of the arcade, was bought over and demolished in a bid to improve the shopping environment.

And, by 1997, its fortunes were looking brighter.

It was given a new glass-covered area as part of an £8million refit, which helped attract new tenants.

Tandy, Walmsley Furnishings, Tandem Pet Supplies, The Book Pedlar and Video Drive-In at the Shawlands Arcade joined existing traders Boots, Farmfoods, Birthdays, Kwik Save, Pound-stretcher, TSB, Woolworths, Burger King and Superdrug.

But many have since left with Sainsbury's, which joined in 2002, also pulling out a few years later.

The T-shaped mall has 150,000sq ft of space and includes a four-storey office building and two multi-storey car parks.

Now community leaders are calling for the centre - intended to be the heart of its bustling community - to finally be demolished.

Big names such as Sainsbury's, Radio Rentals and Carphone Warehouse as well as independent retailers, including a record shop and a sports store, have moved out, blaming the outdated look of the centre for the lack of trade.

Hopes were raised when the mall was bought by Property firm AWG in 2006 for more than £21million.

It promised to let all the units in the short term but said it would later roll out a multi-million pound makeover to return the centre to a thriving shopping area.

And it was said to be in talks with major retailers such as Asda and Waitrose about redevelopment.

Two years on some improvements have been made and new tenants such as Costa Coffee and Curves fitness club have moved in recently.

But local politicians say it's not enough to revive the centre's flagging fortunes. And now they want more drastic action.

Councillor David Meikle, who is on the Shawlands Town Centre Steering Group set up earlier this year, said: "I would certainly like to see it demolished and a new shopping centre built. It needs something spectacular and positive to encourage new business."

Councillor Archie Graham, who chairs the group, said discussions with the arcade's owners AWG Property are at an early stage.

He said: "Demolition might be the conclusion we come to. But the steering group has not explored all the options yet."

Councillor James Dornan, who is also on the steering group, said: "The most important thing is to do it up and utilise it properly."

Andrew Montgomery, secretary of Shawlands and Strathbungo Community Council, also favours a total redevelopment. He said: "I think bringing the arcade back down to street level would really benefit the area and create a more balanced streetscape."

The steering group was established by community leaders after a public meeting in February.

Two hundred people turned up to discuss ways the area could be revived and revamping the arcade was top of the agenda.

AWG today refused to say if demolition was something it was looking at but says it is working with the steering group to come to a solution.

Word on the street
Peter Connor, 45, Cathcart, Social Worker:
I don't really shop here anymore. But I don't think they should knock it down, they should work with what they've got.
Amelia McKinlay, 72, Castlemilk, retired:
Years ago the arcade was better. One thing they should have is a good fruit and veg shop. I only come here for the Somerfield.
Margaret Paterson, 39, Paisley, JobCentre staff:
I work here and there's not much in the arcade - it's run down. I think it would be good if they created a new centre.
Craig McDougal, 30, Firefighter, Newlands:
I think there needs to be more independent shops.
Joyce Williamson, 57, Giffnock, Retired:
They should make it cheaper for independent shops to open up in the arcade.
When AWG bought it, director Richard Rae said: "If we were to demolish what's there we would be looking at five years to completion once you took into account the consultation and planning processes involved. We've had lots of interest in the site from major supermarket players and other retailers."

Other issues being tackled by the steering group include improving the environment, including noise, litter and heavy traffic.

The area has been made the subject of a Town Centre Action Plan - a Glasgow City Council incentive to improve key areas of the city.

A Shawlands Business Forum has also been set up.

Publication date 01/07/08

Posted by: newman, glasgow on 11:01am Tue 1 Jul 08
Whits gonna happen to all the charity shops that make up the majority of outlets?
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:16am Tue 1 Jul 08
Another sad, but predictable, effect of New Labour's apparent policy of giving planning applications to their £950 donors to build giant out-of-town malls... of course, knock them down as wee Archie says and build cheap flats that no-one wants and can't afford anyway now that the property bubble has burst...

Come to think of it, isn't Glasgow the world's best shopping destination after London? Eh... maybe not!

--
Sydney Meriwether
One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents.
Posted by: Syndy Merriblether, a pub on 11:42am Tue 1 Jul 08
Another sad, but predictable , s effect of New Labour's apparent policy of giving planning applications to their organ donors to build giant out-of-town malls... of course, knock them down as wee Archie says and build cheap flats that no-one wants and can't afford anyway now that the bubble gum bubble has burst...

Come to think of it, isn't Glasgow the world's best shopping destination after London? Eh... maybe not!Unless you like £1 shops and sales we don't need.

--
Syndy Merriblether
One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents.
Posted by: jkr, Lochwinnoch Greater Glasgow on 11:49am Tue 1 Jul 08
The rot set in when Safeways moved out. It needs to be completely renewed. As it has good parking facilities there is no reason why it can't be turned into something better for shoppers.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:57am Tue 1 Jul 08
jkr wrote:
The rot set in when Safeways moved out. It needs to be completely renewed. As it has good parking facilities there is no reason why it can't be turned into something better for shoppers.
Yes JKR

The best idea to come forwrd - but what exactly should be put in its place?

Of course with most shopping centre's built in the 70's & 80's in Glasgow - they are horrible and require disposal for something far more better.

With the weather we have, it makes sense to have some shelter from the elements.

It would be a good idea to raze it all to ground level, make a couple of streets (pedestrianised) and put in some buildings which can contain flats, with shops and places to eat - it will also complement the property at either side of the arcade as well as the property facing it.

That would certainly be of benefit to the area rather than the hideous structure that is Shawlands Arcade.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 12:11pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Good thinking, TMC. Traditional street patterns and building forms have usually proven to be better than these manky 60s (etc) arcades.
Posted by: Rab Jones, Glasgow on 12:11pm Tue 1 Jul 08
The Arcade is sandwiched inbetween The City Centre and The new Silverburn/Tesco in Pollok.

Apart from the pubs in Shawlands (which are very good for a night out) the shops don't really stand a chance.
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 12:13pm Tue 1 Jul 08
this is the perfect place for a massive homeless hostel .
which could house the homeless from outwith glasgow as well as the glaswegian homeless.
this way they would have access to transport to any part of glasgow rather than being stuck in one area.
im sure even MEEP will agree with me.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:23pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Brad wrote:
Good thinking, TMC. Traditional street patterns and building forms have usually proven to be better than these manky 60s (etc) arcades.
Yes Brad I remember back in the late 70's I used to visit my granny at her work in the old Cohan's factory in Coustonholm Road (they used to make clothes for M&S - St Michael as it was then known) and the arcade itself used to be buzzing with many shops, I even remember Templeton's Supermarket for which there was also one in Castlemilk as well.

Certainly there used to be a lot more people in Glasgow back in the late 70's compared to what we see now - (probably down by at least 100,000) - part of that population, some from areas like Castlemilk have indeed saw population drop in half, having a knock on effect for the arcade in Shawlands which has been in decline since the mid 80's much like the one in Castlemilk as well at the time.

Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:26pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Rab Jones wrote:
The Arcade is sandwiched inbetween The City Centre and The new Silverburn/Tesco in Pollok. Apart from the pubs in Shawlands (which are very good for a night out) the shops don't really stand a chance.
You never know, Tesco maybe launching a bid to buy the site and ruin Shawlands forevermore!
Posted by: jkr, Lochwinnich Greater Glasgow on 12:33pm Tue 1 Jul 08
The Missing City wrote:
jkr wrote: The rot set in when Safeways moved out. It needs to be completely renewed. As it has good parking facilities there is no reason why it can't be turned into something better for shoppers.
Yes JKR The best idea to come forwrd - but what exactly should be put in its place? Of course with most shopping centre's built in the 70's & 80's in Glasgow - they are horrible and require disposal for something far more better. With the weather we have, it makes sense to have some shelter from the elements. It would be a good idea to raze it all to ground level, make a couple of streets (pedestrianised) and put in some buildings which can contain flats, with shops and places to eat - it will also complement the property at either side of the arcade as well as the property facing it. That would certainly be of benefit to the area rather than the hideous structure that is Shawlands Arcade.
I like your suggestions TMC. I hope the people that can do something about it are reading our postings.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 12:45pm Tue 1 Jul 08
jkr wrote:
The Missing City wrote:
jkr wrote: The rot set in when Safeways moved out. It needs to be completely renewed. As it has good parking facilities there is no reason why it can't be turned into something better for shoppers.
Yes JKR The best idea to come forwrd - but what exactly should be put in its place? Of course with most shopping centre's built in the 70's & 80's in Glasgow - they are horrible and require disposal for something far more better. With the weather we have, it makes sense to have some shelter from the elements. It would be a good idea to raze it all to ground level, make a couple of streets (pedestrianised) and put in some buildings which can contain flats, with shops and places to eat - it will also complement the property at either side of the arcade as well as the property facing it. That would certainly be of benefit to the area rather than the hideous structure that is Shawlands Arcade.
I like your suggestions TMC. I hope the people that can do something about it are reading our postings.
That Victorian style arcade in Leeds would be a winner if a replica was established in Shawlands, that one with the glass roof and rows of shops and the old building that contains the indoor market and cafe's. Base it on somethiong like that so people can enjoy the inside as well as outside.

Thats far more appriopriate for Shawlands than it would be for Buchanan St - what a ridiculous idea that was and still is.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 1:23pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Rab Jones wrote:
The Arcade is sandwiched inbetween The City Centre and The new Silverburn/Tesco in Pollok. Apart from the pubs in Shawlands (which are very good for a night out) the shops don't really stand a chance.
Rab, I don't buy that argument. It doesn't help to have Silverburn 2m away but it's not the only factor. Much of the problem here may be to do with the design of the centre and the owners, who don't want to invest in it. Traditional building, use, street and ownership patterns tend to be more flexible - more mixes of use, more variety of lease terms, owners, tenants, etc. Look at how Duke Street is changing, despite its proximity to The Forge. If you have enough population density and disposable income in close proximity, and good transport to bring in more (think the West End) - and you can match that with somewhere that's a pleasant attractive environment, then you can do well. If you offer rubbish like the Shawlands Arcade, of course, people are going to go elsewhere.

Trouble is, even if you build something traditional in style now, it'll probably be through one developer, quite possibly one owner (of commercial premises) who will again want to deal in long, expensive leases with multiples. Unfortunately, the risk of not getting that, and the subdued property market, is probably enough to put off any major development in the foreseeable future...
Posted by: CrackerG, Glasgow on 1:29pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Another real factor in all of this is the cheap and nasty Sir John Maxwell pub at the end of the Arcade, and more specifically the sort of reprobates that it's attracts.

So often have I seen fighting, drunkenness and general loutishness from those who frequent that place and it can be quite an intimidating pub to walk past when they are all hanging about outside enjoying their cancer-sticks.

Total revamp is required – new flat development or otherwise!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Hoof Hearted, GlasVegas on 1:56pm Tue 1 Jul 08
I'm going to become a Social Worker. Look at the guy above, Peter Connor, 45.
45 !!!!! He looks great for a 45 year old!!
Social Working must be a skoosh. Where can I get me one of those jobs?

Hoof Hearted wisnae me
Posted by: doug on 2:40pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Sir John Maxwell is a wonderful pub great food and company
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 3:31pm Tue 1 Jul 08
I think that AWG will be seeking to maximise their profit margin on Shawlands Arcade. And the best way to do this is ( in their eyes) to demolish it and sell the land to the highest bidder. The shawlands community need to lobby either a good supermarket like Waitrose.
Posted by: Brad on 3:50pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Meep wrote:
I think that AWG will be seeking to maximise their profit margin on Shawlands Arcade. And the best way to do this is ( in their eyes) to demolish it and sell the land to the highest bidder. The shawlands community need to lobby either a good supermarket like Waitrose.
If they'd wanted to do that, they should have done it a year ago - they'd get much less buyer interest and a much lower price today (if any sale at all). Don't under-estimate how long a firm like this will sit on an asset (more for the land than the property on it), avoiding much short-term investment that mightn't be recouped for a long time!

But who knows...
Posted by: ahmed yellaf, pollokshields on 4:30pm Tue 1 Jul 08
i am still in mutch laughterness at hoof hearted post ,wisnae me. that is so very young social work face and be a good advert for men products showing no wrinkle.

i live not far from the shawlands arcade, i take for walks there, youngest childrens sameena , ashraf , guppta and all my wives and famarlie and all mine childrens regular for arcade and for whale of time to play and get a kitkat and a tea. it is good play time but only handful of shop.

mine is on corner ,plese come and see me,we sell a lott of nice and quite freshe and cheep good foodes and hardwares too.

ahmed yellaf (one off glasagows finest shoppkeipers)
Posted by: ahmed yellaf, pollokshields on 4:39pm Tue 1 Jul 08
woulddent like to tackel the woman in pictour also who called amelia she very scary eyballs to bring brokein pay packitt home

Ahmed Yellaf, one and ownly
Posted by: zzipp67, Glasgow on 4:49pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Syndy Merriblether wrote:
Another sad, but predictable , s effect of New Labour's apparent policy of giving planning applications to their organ donors to build giant out-of-town malls... of course, knock them down as wee Archie says and build cheap flats that no-one wants and can't afford anyway now that the bubble gum bubble has burst... Come to think of it, isn't Glasgow the world's best shopping destination after London? Eh... maybe not!Unless you like £1 shops and sales we don't need. -- Syndy Merriblether One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents.
whats your point here sydney? and what has GCC not don this time that it should have??
Posted by: Hank Marvin, Cludgie on 4:54pm Tue 1 Jul 08
hey zzip67 you have copied and pasted the mick take post lol

Posted by: Hank Marvin, Cludgie on 4:57pm Tue 1 Jul 08
it is a dive,was ok back in the 80's the worst aspect is the carpark 'dodge the pillar', totally crap minging of pee and full of litter,and leaks and puddles, not a safe bet to park in there! im not sure why all the shop closures is even newsworthy

re carpark mingingness, users of whale of a time park there i suppose and have small kids so it is not safe and badly lit.
Posted by: zzipp67, Glasgow on 5:00pm Tue 1 Jul 08
Hank Marvin wrote:
hey zzip67 you have copied and pasted the mick take post lol
you lost me mate - what are you on about?
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 5:38pm Tue 1 Jul 08
zzipp67 wrote:
Hank Marvin wrote: hey zzip67 you have copied and pasted the mick take post lol
you lost me mate - what are you on about?
You copied Syndy's, not Sydney's post...
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 9:04pm Tue 1 Jul 08
ow curves gym, hey I didnae know that was there, was thinking of joining
Posted by: DiJit, Glasgow on 12:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08
The problem is Shawlands is a no go area for motorists.
Parking even with the car park is a nightmare, the rash of traffic lights is beyond comprehension and the islands in the middle of the road turn it into an obstacle course. Well done Glasgow council!
Posted by: Glasweeyin, Glasgow on 3:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08
I think the Arcade is looking a lot cleaner and tidier lately, especially within the mall area and car park.
Posted by: Brad on 5:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08
DiJit wrote:
The problem is Shawlands is a no go area for motorists. Parking even with the car park is a nightmare, the rash of traffic lights is beyond comprehension and the islands in the middle of the road turn it into an obstacle course. Well done Glasgow council!
I doubt that's the main problem, DiJit... most folk in Glasgow don't own cars.
Posted by: jimmyk, Glasgow on 9:16am Thu 3 Jul 08
Syndy Merriblether wrote:
Another sad, but predictable , s effect of New Labour's apparent policy of giving planning applications to their organ donors to build giant out-of-town malls... of course, knock them down as wee Archie says and build cheap flats that no-one wants and can't afford anyway now that the bubble gum bubble has burst... Come to think of it, isn't Glasgow the world's best shopping destination after London? Eh... maybe not!Unless you like £1 shops and sales we don't need. -- Syndy Merriblether One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents.
And here was me foolishly thinking that "Uncle Sydney"(and why he wants to call himself that is more than I need to know) was having a free reign whilst I was in Tasmania.

Toooo Good Syndy!

p.s. for the "real Uncle Sydney". M & S lost 25% of it's value yesterday. How did Purcell and the GCC manage that?
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