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Call for kids’ fairground rides ban in city centre streets
 
Fairground detraction or welcome diversion for families  the roundabouts have stirred up a mixed response from shoppers and environmentalists
Fairground detraction or welcome diversion for families the roundabouts have stirred up a mixed response from shoppers and environmentalists
 
Catherine Collins said the brightly coloured rides are an eyesore
Catherine Collins said the brightly coloured rides are an eyesore
 

Exclusive by Vivienne Nicoll

FAIRGROUND rides for toddlers should be banned from pedestrian areas, it was claimed today.

Glasgow councillor Nina Baker, of the Green Party, has written to the city council's licensing committee to complain about the kiddies' attractions in Argyle Street and Sauchiehall Street.

She has the backing of Merchant City community council which also wants the rides scrapped.

Ms Baker said: "The pedestrianised parts of Sauchiehall Street and Argyle Street are often very crowded, which we may see as the reward for the city's success in promoting itself as a retail destination.

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"But these areas have become a visual mess, accompanied by masses of litter, and the streets are no longer the wonderful vistas they were.

"We do not need these rides in order to attract families to the retail areas.

"For many, they will be regarded as a hazard to get past as fast as possible while fending off the pestering of their children to go on rides the parents can ill afford."

Ms Baker, who represents Anderston/City, said she was also concerned about the impact of the fairground attractions on the environment of the city centre.

She said: "Many rides run off diesel generators and contribute to city centre pollution, right in the middle of a pedestrianised area.

"I would suggest new and renewal licences for these operators in Sauchiehall Street and Argyle Street pedestrian areas should not be granted."

Anne Keay, chairman of Merchant City community council, also called for an end to the rides in Argyle Street.

She said: "Pedestrian areas are precious spaces to be enjoyed for the space they provide to shop, walk and sit in as well as the relative peace they provide from mechanisation.

"Fairground rides disturb that peace as their diesel generators make a not inconsiderable amount of noise.

"These generators also smell unpleasant and make an unwelcome contribution to air pollution."

Some shoppers agreed. Catherine Collins, 61, of Germiston, Glasgow, believes the fairgrounds put shoppers off visiting the area.

Catherine said: They're an eyesore and can cause more hassle than they're worth.

"You get undesirables using them as an excuse to hang around the area."

Shopper Sarah Johnston, 34, of Stirling, said: "As a visitor to the city, I think they lower the tone of the area. They get in the way when the streets are busy and they look terrible."

However, grandparents Isobelle and Frank Connelly, both 47 and also from Germiston, take granddaughter Brooke, four, to the rides.

Frank said: "I think the rides are quite colourful and good for the kids."

Operators wanting to run a fairground attraction have to pay a licence fee of £563.

Despite the concerns, the city council's licensing committee agreed to grant public entertainment licences to operators in the two areas.

Publication date 02/07/08

Posted by: stevo, Glasgow on 11:27am Wed 2 Jul 08
"the streets are no longer the wonderful vistas they were."

Is she talking about Argyle Street????
Do me a favour. Has this woman no more pressing business than this?

To call these rides an eyesore is a bit rich too. Argyle Street is a hole, populated with crapy leather and cheap clothes stores.
Posted by: SKYE, GLASGOW on 11:30am Wed 2 Jul 08
THIS RUBBISH IS AN INSULT TO A CHILD'S INTELLECT.ALSO AN ATTRACTION PROBALY FOR EVERY PAEDOPHILE IN GLASGOW.CLEAR THE LOT OF IT AWAY AND RESTORE SOME QUALITY "FREE SPACE".
Posted by: KB, Glasgow on 11:32am Wed 2 Jul 08
Good - belongs to a different era. Now trashy and run by yobs.

Posted by: victor meldrew, condorrat on 11:37am Wed 2 Jul 08
How sad, I think these rides bring a wee bit of colour and carnival to the streets, not to mention the delight of kids.Is OUR city centre just for the benefit of 'shoppers' and retailers'profits?
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:39am Wed 2 Jul 08

IT has to be said these rides - Sauchiehall & Argyle Street don't exactly make them look upmarket, or good to tourists.

They are cheap, grotty looking and a money grabbing means by both the council and companies who get away with putting them on our inner city streets.

Why not put them in parks - Glasgow Green and other more suitable places for a fixed or set amount of time.

Placing them within the city centre is just an expensive distraction for kids unfortunate enough to be dragged around the city centre streets at their busiest.

Also, not all parents have the money, patience, time or inclination to allow their kids to go on these rides - I mean, just how safe are they ?

Ultimately, we are cheapening the look of our streets with such rides, burger - hot dog stalls, coffee booths (etc)

Free the city centre of the clutter it has, dirty, potentially unsafe rides. And re-located them in suitable, and more appropriate places, public parks etc.

We have enough of a problem with litter, fly tipping, fly posting etc without these grotty rides as well.

Councillors have to remember the city centre is for tourists also, and keeping the image of the city centre in pristine condition is the key.
Posted by: pete, Bearsden on 11:59am Wed 2 Jul 08
They are an eyesore - get rid of them.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:11pm Wed 2 Jul 08
They're crap - bin them... and while we're there bin those loud, brash and trashy revolving advertising bins which are in Argyle, Sauchie and George Streets... they're like something off of Bullseye!

--
Sydney Meriwether
One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 12:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Syndy, please don't mention Lidl in the same sentence as Farmfoods. The former is far superior to the latter.
Posted by: buccleuch, Glasgow on 12:37pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Christ, just logged on for a wee skive and read at work and my blood pressure level has sky rocketed due to these VERY ANNOYING ADVERTS SMEARED OVER THE TEXT. CUT IT OUT!
Anyway, the sooner the naff labour cooncillors are booted out of the chambers and all these naff rides, cheap flower displays , multicoloured lighting schemes will be history.
Posted by: Fairfield, Glasgow on 12:37pm Wed 2 Jul 08
And nobody has mentioned the growing number of Roma beggars on every street in Glasgow. Why do the powers that be not shift them?
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:47pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Fairfield wrote:
And nobody has mentioned the growing number of Roma beggars on every street in Glasgow. Why do the powers that be not shift them?
That'll be the political correctness agenda that New Labour use to batter down any dissent in the ranks. It's okay to fervently promote the myth that every Old Firm fan is a closet, knuckle-dragging bigot, but Roma beggars on the streets of Glasgow - don't be absurd!

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Sydney Meriwether
One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents.
Posted by: daz, glasgow on 12:49pm Wed 2 Jul 08
isn't this the same arguement from yesterdays trampolines - where the fairground rides become baby sitters for maws to pop into primark for a couple of 'bargins'........
Posted by: Deauville, City Centre on 12:49pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Yes - these rides should have been removed years ago. They are polluting, noisy and ugly. I pay a lot to live in the city centre - I don't want it to look like a tacky fairground. On busy days you can barely walk down the narrow pavements left either side of these machines. Get them gone.
Posted by: fair enough, Glasgow on 1:44pm Wed 2 Jul 08
The council want to take a look at themselves. They know that they would not allow this on Buchanan Street. Why not? because it is ugly, tacky and cheap (while unbelievably expensive for parents!)

Get it sorted.
Posted by: JC on 1:59pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Total eyesore, tacky, dangerous - get rid of them now!
Posted by: Asturias, Glasgow on 2:11pm Wed 2 Jul 08
What about this as an alternative attraction : A Large Vat of bubbling hot excrement with an attached mini arena .
For a decent fee gleefull citizens could delight in watching Glasgow Labour Councillors being flung in. Now that is in good taste.
Posted by: GAW, Glasgow UK on 3:30pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Yes the rides should never have been allowed their in the first place.

It says much about the two-bit, no thought, no class GCC. Woudl you find cheap gypsy-rides on Unter Den Linden? I think not.

Another thing which very much detracts from the previously nice pedestrianised areas is that the fact that GCC uses cheap, uneven tar to do repairs, as opposed to replacing broken stones with a similar stone to maintain the effect. ONLY in Glasgow, that wouldnt happen in a stylish city, like berlin or london.

Soon the pedestrian areas will be an ugly patchwork of tar and various broken paving stones - after all we endured, so they could be fitted in the first place.

Typical lack of thought, do-the-bare-minimum GCC.
Posted by: PepsiBarker, Glasgow on 3:42pm Wed 2 Jul 08
These fairground rides cause a nuisence by being an obstacle to visual impaired people in Glasgow especially on school holidays and weekends. So will you please get rid of them.

Oh and these rides look dangerous for children.
Posted by: raypaterson, Glasgow on 4:04pm Wed 2 Jul 08
On a purely selfish level, these rides are a bl**dy nuisance when you are trying to get past in a hurry. I suppose you could also say that about some of the 'street entertainment' too.
Posted by: stevo, Glasgow on 4:05pm Wed 2 Jul 08
PepsiBarker wrote:
These fairground rides cause a nuisence by being an obstacle to visual impaired people in Glasgow especially on school holidays and weekends. So will you please get rid of them. Oh and these rides look dangerous for children.
What are you talking about? How are they a nuisence to the blind any more than bins, benches, beggars lying in the street etc?

Posted by: Harry, Glasgow on 5:23pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Yes, let's get rid of these noisy, tacky rip-off rides & let's also stop havingFrench/German/
whatever markets & rubbish seasonal shops open only to cash in on Christmas. Keep the main shopping areas free for shops & traders who pay high rents & rates all year rather than just cashing in & moving on within a few weeks.
Posted by: murpho, glasgow on 5:26pm Wed 2 Jul 08
While these rides are a complete eyesore, they also cause bottlenecks within the main shopping areas (another example of this was the badly thought out Christmas Market on Argyle Street).

Why not locate some smart, traditional rides like a helter skelter or horse carousel in a suitable location such as St Enoch Square?

I also find it hard to believe these operators only pay a license fee of £563. Is this a one-off cost or do they also have to pay a ground rent?
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 5:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08
an we just not put the rides in teh schemes and allow teh shellsuited weans to play on them there as it seems it's only ever Chantels, John-Pauls, Brandons sporting the latest "trackies" who use them if it keeps them and their similarly dressed parents away all teh better. As for Argyle St vista haha I had the pleasure of walking along this streeet for teh first time in 6 months last week and it felt like Bosnia after the civil war...At least the Bosnian towns had an excuse. Whit a minging disgrace of a street that is. I avoid Union st by habit now as well... Christ our city though getting better stil has real middens for streets
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:02pm Wed 2 Jul 08
murpho wrote:
While these rides are a complete eyesore, they also cause bottlenecks within the main shopping areas (another example of this was the badly thought out Christmas Market on Argyle Street). Why not locate some smart, traditional rides like a helter skelter or horse carousel in a suitable location such as St Enoch Square? I also find it hard to believe these operators only pay a license fee of £563. Is this a one-off cost or do they also have to pay a ground rent?
Couldn't agree more murpho!
These eyesores do little or nothing for the culture, and image of our fair city.
Give us some real rides to indulge our senses in.
Not these crappy, rustbucket monstrosities ready to fall apart, or worse still for our kids to be injured on.

Lets go back to the good old days, when the greed for a fast buck was not so prevalent as it is now.
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 6:05pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Hey People Power we butchered and murdered our way to an empire inspired by greed. We suffered slum landlords in search of a fast buck we put up with companies who paid a pittance because of greed. When were these halycon days when we weren't inspired by greed that you speak of? The gold days never existed and never will. Or is it teh good old days when kids worked in mines and went up chimneys and the poor starved to death on teh streets. Are these the good old days you talk about. Whit a stupid thing to say people power!
Posted by: GJS, Glasgow on 6:09pm Wed 2 Jul 08
I'm fed up with people who say, "I don't like X so X should be banned." More live and let live is needed in this world.

I want a ban on bans.
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 6:43pm Wed 2 Jul 08
I think people who spell 'the' as 'teh' should be banned. And you have 'the' cheek to call other people neds! No doubt your kids get sent to (or will get sent to) play on 'teh trampoline' all day long as well!! Might as well throw them a stick or a ball and get them to fetch it, that's how dogs use up excess energy, although that would involve more brain power than trampolining..
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 6:58pm Wed 2 Jul 08
haha alexparade if you read through the post you will see it varies from teh to the as with typing to fast.
Haha your nonsense about trampolines is mystifying what exactly is your point. I spend time with my kids which doesn't involve dragging them round shops and then trying to pacify them with McDonalds and fairground rides to make up for ignoring them all afternoon. Did you call your kid Kyle and Brandon. Do you dress them in tackies (a deliberate mistake you nonce)

When was the word ned ever mentioned? in any of my posts. You seem to be making a link that you yourself make. Perhaps a wee freudian slip.

SO your point is? Haha oh that's right you don't have one

BTW using double exclamation marks and two full stops is a grammar faux-pas.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 7:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08
I have spelt 'the' that 'teh' way as well i stand accused , I do it a lot when typing in a hurry, should see me on msn,got to have a degreee to decipher LOL

Hey people power, how u doin?

speaking of TEH wonder if it means I am ruled by an abnormally doatty part of my brain,lol, the male bit of course, perhaps am slightly dyslexic, or just in a hurry.

Despite the concerns, the city council's licensing committee agreed to grant public entertainment licences to operators in the two areas.


hellllloo people who need to chill, more to life than this, walk past it if you see it, or don't shop there with your kiddas (I dont)

ps where is rose these days too? missing her.

this site always goes this way, down the pan, a nice open debate then it turns all personal slurs at end by someone letting off inappropriate steam. I ask ye sheez!

i always puked coming off the waltzers , canny go all that spinning
Posted by: Hank Marvin, Cludgie on 8:04pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Don't let them on! It makes weans heave up or white and dizzy, how is that 'fun', I ask ye and the diesel fumes are bad too. Naughty naughty glasgow council.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Hey Edna,

Good to see your posts, entertaining, intelligent and witty as always...

Some of these slurs, and posters are sure getting tetchy these days. A few insomniacs, or overworked folk on these boards maybee's

No sign of labourite Frank I see, shame that ;-(

As for the way this debate is going, seems to be drying up. And, at the end of the day just how much influence does our ranting, typing and spiels have on the bigger picture ? ?

Would like to think that G.C.C. is keeping a close eye on events, and polls on this paper also.

Just a pity the polls are flawed down to two counts :
1. They don't show the number participating in them.
2. They have the pointless "Don't Know" sitting on fence option.

Just ditch these rides from our pedestrianised shopping areas, and stop clogging them up with these rides. Hardly rocket science is it ?

Final thought: I'd like to see Purcell, and other council leaders on the cup and saucer ride, pushing their pens, and spouting their mince. What a picture - LOL ;-)
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 9:07pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Like sweets at any supermarket checkout, children have to learn that these sort of things are not 'there for the asking/taking'!
Once-upon-a-time, treats WERE treats!!
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 9:13pm Wed 2 Jul 08
PS Sauchieha(wfu)ll Street?
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 9:17pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Andrew Stephen wrote:
Like sweets at any supermarket checkout, children have to learn that these sort of things are not 'there for the asking/taking'! Once-upon-a-time, treats WERE treats!!

"Treats" What the he** are they ?
Most kids are such spoilt brats they don't know the meaning of the word. Sad really!

Is it any wonder so many kids behave the way they do, when they have everything they want, and more.

Deny them their privelages, and make them see the value of items their given. Make them earn their keep, and pay for their own P.C. games etc.

Lets get back to basics and stop giving kids everything they want and more. It's not healthy, and it's the spoilt brats that turn out the most arrogant, and selfish later in life.

So what if they aren't wearing trainers that cost £100! So what if they haven't got the latest gear on, brand names etc - where do they learn that brand name snobbery, and consumerism from ? Us adults!

Lets make kids see the value of things more, and the need for them less. It wont seem like it now, but they'll thank us when their older.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 11:03pm Wed 2 Jul 08
well said pp

selfish kids grow into selfish adults, and they learn primarily from the main care givers. but we all had bugger all as weans a crap old teak effect box known as 'a telly 'and everyone rented a 'betamax video' lol no central heating , central heating was 'all clothes worn in bed, and sitting at the gas fire in the livingroom '! one bath a week(as oppsed to once a month now lol am kidding), and yer maw went 1st! sharing a bedroom wi siblings, scraping ice of inside of bedroom windaes in winter, played outside in snow and didnt seem to feel cold! probably wore same clothes all week,lol

being born in the 70's we sure had sod all. annoys me that weans get designer clobber bigger and better and grow up with their hands out for more.

canny buy manners and its learnt, good moral fibre comes fae the word go, as the parents do teach their tots respect know its a two way street, i say please and thanks to ma weans!

ive witnessed jaky maws swearing at the school gates, seeing women being brutal shoving weans as young as 5 about and making them cry and wanted to do something , ie hug the wee soul. and their weans being cheeky wee sods, but with a role model like that cackling at them , what can ye dae? surprised half the women havent melted when it rained.


weans should have to save their pocket money and learn to pay their way in small ways. am all for weans being taught right, i hate cheeky weans and i equally hate nasty mums who plainly hit them. maybe a thud on bum comes in anger, but i mean ive seen kids lynched by neck, arms and shoved hard , and roughed up. by the very woman who gave them birth!

the designer consumerism thing i have witnessed that its a sin, a wee boy dressed in dear tracksuits and expensive trainers after school even had gold jewllery on and his mum batters hell out of him and i hear her swear at him every day she exits the home, hes outside walking on and wailing. she is stressed out by being a mum but arent we all , the designer togs are a replacement for her love.

My stiff came fae paddies market i am informed, ma maw used to tell me we were going 'up to c&a' so i wouldnt blurt out 'we shopped at paddys market!'ma maw send us to school clean and fed and we were loved sob sob but true. but, she won £250 on spot the ball one time, and spent it all on me and ma brother, and got us a whole stack of clothe each fae bhs in 1982 and it lasted me 2 years good quality.

we appreciated it and Chistina Aquileras oh mother song is pretty similar to how my chidlhood was too. a mums job is kinda undervalued, and am glad there are still some sensible folk with their heids screwed on around!

i told mine at nursery 'right, get oot and get a joab am sick of keeping ye', lolol only joking by the way
Posted by: buccleuch, Glasgow on 4:48pm Thu 3 Jul 08
nother thing which very much detracts from the previously nice pedestrianised areas is that the fact that GCC uses cheap, uneven tar to do repairs, as opposed to replacing broken stones with a similar stone to maintain the effect. ONLY in Glasgow, that wouldnt happen in a stylish city, like berlin or london.

"Soon the pedestrian areas will be an ugly patchwork of tar and various broken paving stones - after all we endured, so they could be fitted in the first place.

Typical lack of thought, do-the-bare-minimum GCC."

Well said!. An ADHD 4 year old child could do a better job of smearing tarmac over already broken and badly laid paving stones on Sauchihall St and Buchanan St. The lack of care, skill and common sense beggars belief.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:20pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Exactly buccleuch.

The state our patch ups on our streets are in are shameful, and proof of the cheap workmanship, and labour of some of these numpties who I've watched, as they rush the job.....end result, it needs fixed a second, third, or fourth time.

Do it right the first time, and professionally, and maybe, just maybe we'll have safe surfaces to walk on, without tripping up, falling down broken drain covers, or just seeing the ugly mess left when the job has been done far less satisfactorily than it should be.

Poor show G.C.C.

Maybe thats why the rides are on Sauchiehall & Argyle Street - because it's us tax - payers being taken for a ride, every time G.C.C. sub contract these numpties to fix our streets, or do any sub-standard workmanship.
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