Posted by: Ronnie Cee, Glasgow on 11:45am Wed 2 Jul 08
Danny is correct. Too many Glaswegians were used to the old pie'n'chip suppers and fish'n'chips after a night out that it became second nature. Nowadays I see kids queuing up to buy fatty hamburgers and greasy pies and there's no way they'll listen to anyone who might advise them to try better food.
I saw mothers in England passing pies, crisps and coke over the school railings to their kids who refused to eat the healthy school meals. How can you educate these ignorant mothers? You can't, so why waste time on them, they're hardly worth it.
Looks like diabetes will reign supreme in Britain soon, just like unwanted pregances and boozy yobs. Get used to it folks!
Danny is correct. Too many Glaswegians were used to the old pie'n'chip suppers and fish'n'chips after a night out that it became second nature. Nowadays I see kids queuing up to buy fatty hamburgers and greasy pies and there's no way they'll listen to anyone who might advise them to try better food.
I saw mothers in England passing pies, crisps and coke over the school railings to their kids who refused to eat the healthy school meals. How can you educate these ignorant mothers? You can't, so why waste time on them, they're hardly worth it.
Looks like diabetes will reign supreme in Britain soon, just like unwanted pregances and boozy yobs. Get used to it folks!
Posted by: jah1873, Glasgow, Scotland on 12:30pm Wed 2 Jul 08
A good article and well said Danny. It's way past time the Government and health boards got their act together on this. In 20 years time the NHS will collapse with the amount of diseases and illnesses caused by bad diets. A bit of forward thinking is needed and not just the patronising messages they broadcast in the media every now and then. A sustained and committed agenda is needed to save and improve lives. But then again, our health board "chiefs" are more interested in stuffing the public and nurses with car parking charges than addressing the health needs of the nation. What a world!!
A good article and well said Danny. It's way past time the Government and health boards got their act together on this. In 20 years time the NHS will collapse with the amount of diseases and illnesses caused by bad diets. A bit of forward thinking is needed and not just the patronising messages they broadcast in the media every now and then. A sustained and committed agenda is needed to save and improve lives. But then again, our health board "chiefs" are more interested in stuffing the public and nurses with car parking charges than addressing the health needs of the nation. What a world!!
Posted by: Gazza, Glasgow on 12:38pm Wed 2 Jul 08
I was just in the queue at Greggs and watched one customer after another buying doughnuts, sausage rolls, fizzy drinks ... all the usual rubbish. And we wonder why so many people in Glasgow are so fat and lazy!
I was just in the queue at Greggs and watched one customer after another buying doughnuts, sausage rolls, fizzy drinks ... all the usual rubbish. And we wonder why so many people in Glasgow are so fat and lazy!
Posted by: Rab Jones, Glasgow on 12:48pm Wed 2 Jul 08
People always talk about the lack of beds in the NHS.
Yet, maybe there's plenty of beds, but because people don't look after themselves, they are all full up.
People always talk about the lack of beds in the NHS.
Yet, maybe there's plenty of beds, but because people don't look after themselves, they are all full up.
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 1:27pm Wed 2 Jul 08
There was a programme on a few years ago that looked at an NHS programme to help overweight kids in Glasgow. One mum kept going on about how it was making no difference and "they [the NHS] should be doing more". It then showed you her making her family a dinner of spam and frozen chips - all deep fried.
Nuff said.
There was a programme on a few years ago that looked at an NHS programme to help overweight kids in Glasgow. One mum kept going on about how it was making no difference and "they should be doing more". It then showed you her making her family a dinner of spam and frozen chips - all deep fried.
Nuff said.
Posted by: Hank Marvin, Kitchen on 1:42pm Wed 2 Jul 08
so he is changing his name to Danny [bold]McWHOLEgrain[/bold] then? sorry couldnae resist!
You are what you eat and whereas one fish supper cooked in sunflower oil shop bought (chippy) is a tasty treat every once in a while , homemade once a week is fine as long as chips are ovened and fish too, as opposed to frying, but if you must fry, use sunflower or corn oil, and drain on kitchenroll. and less or No cakes or sugary garbage.
Eating greasy pastry filled or processed food every single day is how to clog arteries and have high cholestrol levels etc.
have a treat, but just once a week a cake, a fry up with more focus on veg ie tinned tomatoes, mushrooms , beans, bacon with fat removed, leaner cut sausage, instead of heavily fried greasy stodge, or couple of rolls and square sausages won't kill us. It is if your DAILY diet is takeaways, filled greasy spoon stuff and rolls every day, and no veg or fruit incorporated .
A tomato based pasta or curry with boiled rice is actually a healthy takeaway, [italic]if folk think of every morsel before they consume it we would see Greggs/auld type places close down.[/italic] but folk are ina rush and havent made a food plan for their day so grab and eat in a hurry.
no one can afford to be complacent, we are all responsible for what shape we are in, we are not thickos, but [bold]most of the adults I know do have a weight problem[/bold] and most of the children I know have had a lot of fillings or are verging on overweight.
But let's face it, thsoe shops are tempting, but their filled rolls with salald and helathy toppings appeal more to me than a pink meat sausage roll with greasy pastry that would end up causing me acid all day or the runs so I wuld just eat before I leave home or ONLY buy something with a nutritional value, ie a subway made as you please on brown bread.
it is not fair, us Sots are sociable eaters and we do graze like cows but sadly we are all at higher risk than anywhere else in Uk of heart disease et al.
Eating too much is a disease! and we need to eat more olives , healthy fats, and organic foodstuffs look no one in Japan has heart disease and Italian folk live to a ripe old age as well with their pasta and olive and tomato rich foodstuffs. etc
Right all this talk is making me hungry!!
so he is changing his name to Danny
McWHOLEgrain then? sorry couldnae resist!
You are what you eat and whereas one fish supper cooked in sunflower oil shop bought (chippy) is a tasty treat every once in a while , homemade once a week is fine as long as chips are ovened and fish too, as opposed to frying, but if you must fry, use sunflower or corn oil, and drain on kitchenroll. and less or No cakes or sugary garbage.
Eating greasy pastry filled or processed food every single day is how to clog arteries and have high cholestrol levels etc.
have a treat, but just once a week a cake, a fry up with more focus on veg ie tinned tomatoes, mushrooms , beans, bacon with fat removed, leaner cut sausage, instead of heavily fried greasy stodge, or couple of rolls and square sausages won't kill us. It is if your DAILY diet is takeaways, filled greasy spoon stuff and rolls every day, and no veg or fruit incorporated .
A tomato based pasta or curry with boiled rice is actually a healthy takeaway,
if folk think of every morsel before they consume it we would see Greggs/auld type places close down. but folk are ina rush and havent made a food plan for their day so grab and eat in a hurry.
no one can afford to be complacent, we are all responsible for what shape we are in, we are not thickos, but
most of the adults I know do have a weight problem and most of the children I know have had a lot of fillings or are verging on overweight.
But let's face it, thsoe shops are tempting, but their filled rolls with salald and helathy toppings appeal more to me than a pink meat sausage roll with greasy pastry that would end up causing me acid all day or the runs so I wuld just eat before I leave home or ONLY buy something with a nutritional value, ie a subway made as you please on brown bread.
it is not fair, us Sots are sociable eaters and we do graze like cows but sadly we are all at higher risk than anywhere else in Uk of heart disease et al.
Eating too much is a disease! and we need to eat more olives , healthy fats, and organic foodstuffs look no one in Japan has heart disease and Italian folk live to a ripe old age as well with their pasta and olive and tomato rich foodstuffs. etc
Right all this talk is making me hungry!!
Posted by: Ronnie Cee on 3:06pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Hey Hank,
Stick to the jokes. Trying to encourage rankers to change their eating habits is a complete waste of time. Now we have fifty percent of our children born to single mothers so the 'family' lessons on what to eat are being left to the young wives who are the main hamburger and crisp eaters in our society. The Scottish (especially Glasgow) mentality is "Don't tell me whit tae dae", so here's a tip...DON'T. You'll never convert the rankers because they are as happy as pigs in sh*t.
Hey Hank,
Stick to the jokes. Trying to encourage rankers to change their eating habits is a complete waste of time. Now we have fifty percent of our children born to single mothers so the 'family' lessons on what to eat are being left to the young wives who are the main hamburger and crisp eaters in our society. The Scottish (especially Glasgow) mentality is "Don't tell me whit tae dae", so here's a tip...DON'T. You'll never convert the rankers because they are as happy as pigs in sh*t.
Posted by: raypaterson, Glasgow on 4:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Hank Marvin[/bold] wrote:
so he is changing his name to Danny [bold]McWHOLEgrain[/bold] then? sorry couldnae resist! You are what you eat and whereas one fish supper cooked in sunflower oil shop bought (chippy) is a tasty treat every once in a while , homemade once a week is fine as long as chips are ovened and fish too, as opposed to frying, but if you must fry, use sunflower or corn oil, and drain on kitchenroll. and less or No cakes or sugary garbage. Eating greasy pastry filled or processed food every single day is how to clog arteries and have high cholestrol levels etc. have a treat, but just once a week a cake, a fry up with more focus on veg ie tinned tomatoes, mushrooms , beans, bacon with fat removed, leaner cut sausage, instead of heavily fried greasy stodge, or couple of rolls and square sausages won't kill us. It is if your DAILY diet is takeaways, filled greasy spoon stuff and rolls every day, and no veg or fruit incorporated . A tomato based pasta or curry with boiled rice is actually a healthy takeaway, [italic]if folk think of every morsel before they consume it we would see Greggs/auld type places close down.[/italic] but folk are ina rush and havent made a food plan for their day so grab and eat in a hurry. no one can afford to be complacent, we are all responsible for what shape we are in, we are not thickos, but [bold]most of the adults I know do have a weight problem[/bold] and most of the children I know have had a lot of fillings or are verging on overweight. But let's face it, thsoe shops are tempting, but their filled rolls with salald and helathy toppings appeal more to me than a pink meat sausage roll with greasy pastry that would end up causing me acid all day or the runs so I wuld just eat before I leave home or ONLY buy something with a nutritional value, ie a subway made as you please on brown bread. it is not fair, us Sots are sociable eaters and we do graze like cows but sadly we are all at higher risk than anywhere else in Uk of heart disease et al. Eating too much is a disease! and we need to eat more olives , healthy fats, and organic foodstuffs look no one in Japan has heart disease and Italian folk live to a ripe old age as well with their pasta and olive and tomato rich foodstuffs. etc Right all this talk is making me hungry!![/quote] Hank
What a fantastic post! If people would only realise that having a healthy diet doesn't have to be torture. Having the occasional treat,( be it Gregg's sausage roll or whatever), is alright in strict moderation.
I can never understand those who continually eat fast food, some of it is vile.
By the way, I hope I don't sound smug, my late mother never had much money, but she made sure we got plenty of vegetables, and fruit, even if it was bruised! She let us have chocolate and sweets very occasionaly, mainly due to lack of money.
Hank Marvin wrote:
so he is changing his name to Danny McWHOLEgrain then? sorry couldnae resist! You are what you eat and whereas one fish supper cooked in sunflower oil shop bought (chippy) is a tasty treat every once in a while , homemade once a week is fine as long as chips are ovened and fish too, as opposed to frying, but if you must fry, use sunflower or corn oil, and drain on kitchenroll. and less or No cakes or sugary garbage. Eating greasy pastry filled or processed food every single day is how to clog arteries and have high cholestrol levels etc. have a treat, but just once a week a cake, a fry up with more focus on veg ie tinned tomatoes, mushrooms , beans, bacon with fat removed, leaner cut sausage, instead of heavily fried greasy stodge, or couple of rolls and square sausages won't kill us. It is if your DAILY diet is takeaways, filled greasy spoon stuff and rolls every day, and no veg or fruit incorporated . A tomato based pasta or curry with boiled rice is actually a healthy takeaway, if folk think of every morsel before they consume it we would see Greggs/auld type places close down. but folk are ina rush and havent made a food plan for their day so grab and eat in a hurry. no one can afford to be complacent, we are all responsible for what shape we are in, we are not thickos, but most of the adults I know do have a weight problem and most of the children I know have had a lot of fillings or are verging on overweight. But let's face it, thsoe shops are tempting, but their filled rolls with salald and helathy toppings appeal more to me than a pink meat sausage roll with greasy pastry that would end up causing me acid all day or the runs so I wuld just eat before I leave home or ONLY buy something with a nutritional value, ie a subway made as you please on brown bread. it is not fair, us Sots are sociable eaters and we do graze like cows but sadly we are all at higher risk than anywhere else in Uk of heart disease et al. Eating too much is a disease! and we need to eat more olives , healthy fats, and organic foodstuffs look no one in Japan has heart disease and Italian folk live to a ripe old age as well with their pasta and olive and tomato rich foodstuffs. etc Right all this talk is making me hungry!!
Hank
What a fantastic post! If people would only realise that having a healthy diet doesn't have to be torture. Having the occasional treat,( be it Gregg's sausage roll or whatever), is alright in strict moderation.
I can never understand those who continually eat fast food, some of it is vile.
By the way, I hope I don't sound smug, my late mother never had much money, but she made sure we got plenty of vegetables, and fruit, even if it was bruised! She let us have chocolate and sweets very occasionaly, mainly due to lack of money.
Posted by: Supershug, Eaglesham on 4:22pm Wed 2 Jul 08
hank Marvin: [quote]If folk think of every morsel before they consume it we would see Greggs/auld type places close down. but folk are ina rush and havent made a food plan for their day so grab and eat in a hurry.[/quote]
This is an excellent point. I know myself that I would rarely eat a pie from a baker's shop if I had planned something convenient for lunch.
However, when distracted elsewhere, it is too easy to grab some rubbish. Why is it so difficult to by something warm, satisfying, convenient and healthy? I suspect that most people buy junk food, thinking it doesn't taste great but getting it just because it's hot.
hank Marvin:
If folk think of every morsel before they consume it we would see Greggs/auld type places close down. but folk are ina rush and havent made a food plan for their day so grab and eat in a hurry.
This is an excellent point. I know myself that I would rarely eat a pie from a baker's shop if I had planned something convenient for lunch.
However, when distracted elsewhere, it is too easy to grab some rubbish. Why is it so difficult to by something warm, satisfying, convenient and healthy? I suspect that most people buy junk food, thinking it doesn't taste great but getting it just because it's hot.
Posted by: Hank Marvin, Glasgow on 7:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
hey guys ta for that, it is true though, typing first hand, we canny get blase when the scales don't lie! Sadly mine say am 2st overweight- and aye, it was [italic]me[/italic] who done this to ma sel! As the point is,[quote] Danny said: "Thinking about what you eat is about being a healthy human being. If you don't pay attention and get Type 2 diabetes, you will be forced to make drastic changes to your lifestyle.
"You have to choose if you want the pies and chips and beers or you want to live."[/quote]
It's not someone else he's talking to it's YOU and me, uch well all of us really who take that extra large bag of crisps home, we all like chips, could you walk by a chipshop on an empty tum and resist? Do you get takeaway, do you always get a starter? Bet you bin half of it.
Think it all comes down to good management skills, if you are a candidate for being greedy,hehe yes here, and joining the obese rank(I rate a 30 on bmi scale-shocking)then pre-planning things on a shopping list/menu sounds boring but works, and saying 'nope am no having chips, as ma wife has made me a nice healthy dinner at home, will drink some water or a cup of cha to tide me over..' Aye it is hard but , something that came to my mind was, years ago, not a lot of men were overweight, and I was thinking, could this be doing more manula tasks, and cos their kindly wife, or themself, pre-made a lunch the night before? Rolls and meat, an apple, a yogurt, etc , and that was your 'pieces' made up for next day. you could only eat so much so didn't overdo it, started the day with porridge .Chippy was mainly reserved for the odd friday night and it was a treat. Drink wasnt drank every night either as a rule at home, was in a cabinet for guests only coming aroudn-no one drank alone at home! and no such thing as a binge drinker(to my mind).It was an alkie in those pre-pc days .
hey guys ta for that, it is true though, typing first hand, we canny get blase when the scales don't lie! Sadly mine say am 2st overweight- and aye, it was
me who done this to ma sel! As the point is,
Danny said: "Thinking about what you eat is about being a healthy human being. If you don't pay attention and get Type 2 diabetes, you will be forced to make drastic changes to your lifestyle.
"You have to choose if you want the pies and chips and beers or you want to live."
It's not someone else he's talking to it's YOU and me, uch well all of us really who take that extra large bag of crisps home, we all like chips, could you walk by a chipshop on an empty tum and resist? Do you get takeaway, do you always get a starter? Bet you bin half of it.
Think it all comes down to good management skills, if you are a candidate for being greedy,hehe yes here, and joining the obese rank(I rate a 30 on bmi scale-shocking)then pre-planning things on a shopping list/menu sounds boring but works, and saying 'nope am no having chips, as ma wife has made me a nice healthy dinner at home, will drink some water or a cup of cha to tide me over..' Aye it is hard but , something that came to my mind was, years ago, not a lot of men were overweight, and I was thinking, could this be doing more manula tasks, and cos their kindly wife, or themself, pre-made a lunch the night before? Rolls and meat, an apple, a yogurt, etc , and that was your 'pieces' made up for next day. you could only eat so much so didn't overdo it, started the day with porridge .Chippy was mainly reserved for the odd friday night and it was a treat. Drink wasnt drank every night either as a rule at home, was in a cabinet for guests only coming aroudn-no one drank alone at home! and no such thing as a binge drinker(to my mind).It was an alkie in those pre-pc days .
Posted by: jonny bond, glasgow on 8:33pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Dont talk to me about fast food I aint ever going back for more after a 5 day stomach bug gratis of that infamous burger stroe with the big m. I spent two of those days in an nhs hospital and even though I answered yes I was diabetic in a&e when I was finally given a bed the nurse asked if I was diabetic and told me insulin was not to be administered as I was not diabetic on the form. Also when I wanted to leave a full two days later I couldn't see a doctor to release me for hours if this was not the case there would be more beds available as folk who want to get home for some decent grub are litterally being kept in due to unavailability of doctors to release them.
Dont talk to me about fast food I aint ever going back for more after a 5 day stomach bug gratis of that infamous burger stroe with the big m. I spent two of those days in an nhs hospital and even though I answered yes I was diabetic in a&e when I was finally given a bed the nurse asked if I was diabetic and told me insulin was not to be administered as I was not diabetic on the form. Also when I wanted to leave a full two days later I couldn't see a doctor to release me for hours if this was not the case there would be more beds available as folk who want to get home for some decent grub are litterally being kept in due to unavailability of doctors to release them.
Posted by: jonny bond, glasgow on 8:37pm Wed 2 Jul 08
What about the victoria hospital they are getting a brand spanking new building and they can barely manage an A&E. Clearly it pays to be useless in the NHS.
What about the victoria hospital they are getting a brand spanking new building and they can barely manage an A&E. Clearly it pays to be useless in the NHS.
Posted by: RVH, New Haven CT. on 9:03pm Wed 2 Jul 08
It is not just the fish and chips and the beer but simple things like potatoes, white bread, white rice and pasta which all turn to sugar in the body which make diabetes a problem. Even a humble jam sandwich is almost a death sentence due to the sugar levels. I began taking a teaspoon of cinnamon as a medication and added it to may foods and reduced my blood sugar level by 20% in a couple of weeks. Omega 3 fish oils have greatly reduced my danger signals. Look for a book called The Sugar Solution for help, take time to exercise and do it quick. Tomorrow a friend of mine is losing a toe. This is often the start of limb loss and eventual death.
DO NOT BE CARELESS WITH DIABETES. IT CAN AND WILL KILL YOU.
It is not just the fish and chips and the beer but simple things like potatoes, white bread, white rice and pasta which all turn to sugar in the body which make diabetes a problem. Even a humble jam sandwich is almost a death sentence due to the sugar levels. I began taking a teaspoon of cinnamon as a medication and added it to may foods and reduced my blood sugar level by 20% in a couple of weeks. Omega 3 fish oils have greatly reduced my danger signals. Look for a book called The Sugar Solution for help, take time to exercise and do it quick. Tomorrow a friend of mine is losing a toe. This is often the start of limb loss and eventual death.
DO NOT BE CARELESS WITH DIABETES. IT CAN AND WILL KILL YOU.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 9:22pm Wed 2 Jul 08
hey, good points, you are all making so much sense, good for Danny to point this out, my paternal gran had this type 2 variant and now my mums sister(my aunt) has just been diagnosed she had NO symptoms was picked up in a routine blood test as she just changed drs.
I thought I'd check what statistics say.
Having diabetes in the family puts you at risk. [quote]The closer the relative is, the greater the risk. So if your mum or dad has diabetes, rather than your aunt or uncle, it’s more likely you will develop the condition too.[/quote] (taken from website diabetes.org.uk)
It is true got to always eat a healthy diet and watch those carbs as they turn to sugar, that website is worth checking out.
tvh hope your friend is ok .And you as well, you are doing all the right things, I too had heard about cinnamon being used in medicine , an ingredient everyone has access to nice in apple sauces and sprinkled over food, wonder what is in it?
[italic]Why can't they find a cure for something found in abundance in CHOCOLATE so I could have as much as I wanted, sno fair,lol.[/italic]
hey, good points, you are all making so much sense, good for Danny to point this out, my paternal gran had this type 2 variant and now my mums sister(my aunt) has just been diagnosed she had NO symptoms was picked up in a routine blood test as she just changed drs.
I thought I'd check what statistics say.
Having diabetes in the family puts you at risk.
The closer the relative is, the greater the risk. So if your mum or dad has diabetes, rather than your aunt or uncle, it’s more likely you will develop the condition too.
(taken from website diabetes.org.uk)
It is true got to always eat a healthy diet and watch those carbs as they turn to sugar, that website is worth checking out.
tvh hope your friend is ok .And you as well, you are doing all the right things, I too had heard about cinnamon being used in medicine , an ingredient everyone has access to nice in apple sauces and sprinkled over food, wonder what is in it?
Why can't they find a cure for something found in abundance in CHOCOLATE so I could have as much as I wanted, sno fair,lol. Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 9:26pm Wed 2 Jul 08
jonny bond i kinda feel that way too, some fast food is so fast that [italic]it's no even cooked[/italic] ! read your post and thought 'bet it was a beefburger' eek sounds appalling ending up in hospital..aye ye have had a bad experience all round.
maybe changing one letter around shows what it really is
[italic]Fats[/italic] Food
two bites and its gone, served up cold, with attitude fae scabby teenagers
jonny bond i kinda feel that way too, some fast food is so fast that
it's no even cooked ! read your post and thought 'bet it was a beefburger' eek sounds appalling ending up in hospital..aye ye have had a bad experience all round.
maybe changing one letter around shows what it really is
Fats Food
two bites and its gone, served up cold, with attitude fae scabby teenagers
Posted by: Polly Bag, Glasgow on 11:54am Thu 3 Jul 08
someone needs to let danny know an apple is about to hit his beak
someone needs to let danny know an apple is about to hit his beak
Posted by: FootballAidMan, Edinburgh on 2:40pm Thu 3 Jul 08
For anybody interested in the Football Aid matches mentioned in the article above please visit the www.footballaid.com website. Danny McGrain is our Vice Patron and has contributed immensely to the success of our organisation and in doing so has helped us raise considerable funds for Diabetes Research and Management programmes since our inception in 2001.
For anybody interested in the Football Aid matches mentioned in the article above please visit the www.footballaid.com website. Danny McGrain is our Vice Patron and has contributed immensely to the success of our organisation and in doing so has helped us raise considerable funds for Diabetes Research and Management programmes since our inception in 2001.