Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:31am Tue 8 Jul 08
Did anybody see Purcell on Newsnight getting a grilling from the reporter last night?
Funny stuff - however, he claims the deprivation of the East End began in the 1980's and he blames the tories
Sadly Mr Purcell, although I am a year younger than you, you have insulted my intelligence as well as those who have lived through three, going on four generations of deprivation because its been going on a lot longer than that - either that archives at the BBC are telling lies.
Did anybody see Purcell on Newsnight getting a grilling from the reporter last night?
Funny stuff - however, he claims the deprivation of the East End began in the 1980's and he blames the tories
Sadly Mr Purcell, although I am a year younger than you, you have insulted my intelligence as well as those who have lived through three, going on four generations of deprivation because its been going on a lot longer than that - either that archives at the BBC are telling lies.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:14pm Tue 8 Jul 08
Couldn't of put it better myself.
Oh, by the way E.T. get that moronic grinning buffoon's photo out of my face.
Would of loved to see the Purcell interview, do you think it might still be on the Beeb website ?
The constant see saw of blaming each other in party politics, and washing hands of any responsibility in the here and now is sickening.
The SNP may not win the Glasgow East bi-election by a huge margin, but I sense that with propaganda, and such hyped up stories such as this people in Glasgow East will be wanting problems tackled at grassuits level, not the droll of headlines for a 2 week long contest for the elite, which will see the entire country suffer for it through higher taxation in years to come.
Yes, this may regenerate the East end, what it will not do is regenerate the economy, cut the price of oil & petrol/diesel at the pumps, the rising prices of food, and the real threat of a looming recession.
People want re-assurances of life improving generally in more areas than the upgrading of leisure facilities, most of which are less affordable for families, and those on lower incomes.
Cue labourite Frank > >
Couldn't of put it better myself.
Oh, by the way E.T. get that moronic grinning buffoon's photo out of my face.
Would of loved to see the Purcell interview, do you think it might still be on the Beeb website ?
The constant see saw of blaming each other in party politics, and washing hands of any responsibility in the here and now is sickening.
The SNP may not win the Glasgow East bi-election by a huge margin, but I sense that with propaganda, and such hyped up stories such as this people in Glasgow East will be wanting problems tackled at grassuits level, not the droll of headlines for a 2 week long contest for the elite, which will see the entire country suffer for it through higher taxation in years to come.
Yes, this may regenerate the East end, what it will not do is regenerate the economy, cut the price of oil & petrol/diesel at the pumps, the rising prices of food, and the real threat of a looming recession.
People want re-assurances of life improving generally in more areas than the upgrading of leisure facilities, most of which are less affordable for families, and those on lower incomes.
Cue labourite Frank > >
Posted by: Gazza, Glasgow on 12:34pm Tue 8 Jul 08
Sounds like a glorified camp site they are proposing. Oh, wow, it's going to have an Internet cafe ... must start saving up for that!
Sounds like a glorified camp site they are proposing. Oh, wow, it's going to have an Internet cafe ... must start saving up for that!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:52pm Tue 8 Jul 08
Exactly Gazza, hardly state of the art these days. Even internet cafe's aren't all their cracked up to be. Overpriced for a start.
When folk have all got Wifi, what we need is far more Wifi provision within existing facilities - NOW! - Not, an internet cafe in 2014!
Wake up Steven Purcell, maybe as an afterthought with a moronic grin as wide as that featured here, he could give Brown some tutorials, as his glum, grumpy face is enough to depress anyone - LOL ;-)
Exactly Gazza, hardly state of the art these days. Even internet cafe's aren't all their cracked up to be. Overpriced for a start.
When folk have all got Wifi, what we need is far more Wifi provision within existing facilities - NOW! - Not, an internet cafe in 2014!
Wake up Steven Purcell, maybe as an afterthought with a moronic grin as wide as that featured here, he could give Brown some tutorials, as his glum, grumpy face is enough to depress anyone - LOL ;-)
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 1:08pm Tue 8 Jul 08
I'm just surprised that anyone's planning to build a new post office when they seem so keen to shut them down everywhere else.
I'm just surprised that anyone's planning to build a new post office when they seem so keen to shut them down everywhere else.
Posted by: John, Glasgow on 1:56pm Tue 8 Jul 08
A Post Office? What's that?
A Post Office? What's that?
Posted by: belcher, parkbench 36 on 4:00pm Tue 8 Jul 08
Boycott thier bloody nonsense.
Boycott thier bloody nonsense.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 4:31pm Tue 8 Jul 08
[quote]IT will have everything from an internet cafe, health centre and bank to a laundry and handyman. It will even have a post office and pub[/quote]
oh Good [bold]a pub[/bold] !
Yippe [bold]a post office[/bold] (maybe bump into pauline fowler in a cannon?lol)
but the best thing is the [bold]handyman[/bold] , everyone needs one :-)
IT will have everything from an internet cafe, health centre and bank to a laundry and handyman. It will even have a post office and pub
oh Good
a pub !
Yippe
a post office (maybe bump into pauline fowler in a cannon?lol)
but the best thing is the
handyman , everyone needs one :-)
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 4:52pm Tue 8 Jul 08
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
Did anybody see Purcell on Newsnight getting a grilling from the reporter last night? Funny stuff - however, he claims the deprivation of the East End began in the 1980's and he blames the tories Sadly Mr Purcell, although I am a year younger than you, you have insulted my intelligence as well as those who have lived through three, going on four generations of deprivation because its been going on a lot longer than that - either that archives at the BBC are telling lies.[/quote] Aye, seen him spouting utter tripe about how the Tories were to blame for the problems created by 50 years of liebour dodgy dealing and total incompetence from him and his labour predeccesors.
Hopefully the standards commissioner will do a proper job investigating him and his labour mob of 10.
With any luck he wont be around in 2114.
I wish the ET would stop pasting his slimy fat face in their wee daft story's.
We already know what bawface looks like.
The Missing City wrote:
Did anybody see Purcell on Newsnight getting a grilling from the reporter last night? Funny stuff - however, he claims the deprivation of the East End began in the 1980's and he blames the tories Sadly Mr Purcell, although I am a year younger than you, you have insulted my intelligence as well as those who have lived through three, going on four generations of deprivation because its been going on a lot longer than that - either that archives at the BBC are telling lies.
Aye, seen him spouting utter tripe about how the Tories were to blame for the problems created by 50 years of liebour dodgy dealing and total incompetence from him and his labour predeccesors.
Hopefully the standards commissioner will do a proper job investigating him and his labour mob of 10.
With any luck he wont be around in 2114.
I wish the ET would stop pasting his slimy fat face in their wee daft story's.
We already know what bawface looks like.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 5:03pm Tue 8 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Edna Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[quote]IT will have everything from an internet cafe, health centre and bank to a laundry and handyman. It will even have a post office and pub[/quote] oh Good [bold]a pub[/bold] ! Yippe [bold]a post office[/bold] (maybe bump into pauline fowler in a cannon?lol) but the best thing is the [bold]handyman[/bold] , everyone needs one :-) [/quote] I am applying for the Handyman post, I only stay round the corner. How handy is that!
They better let Kenny McAskill know about the pub. By the time 2014 comes around, you will have to prove you are over 65 to buy drink and you wil have to take out a mortgage to pay for it. Suppose that is one way of raising the life expectancy from the present 63 years.
Edna Bucket wrote:
IT will have everything from an internet cafe, health centre and bank to a laundry and handyman. It will even have a post office and pub
oh Good a pub ! Yippe a post office (maybe bump into pauline fowler in a cannon?lol) but the best thing is the handyman , everyone needs one :-)
I am applying for the Handyman post, I only stay round the corner. How handy is that!
They better let Kenny McAskill know about the pub. By the time 2014 comes around, you will have to prove you are over 65 to buy drink and you wil have to take out a mortgage to pay for it. Suppose that is one way of raising the life expectancy from the present 63 years.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:07pm Tue 8 Jul 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: Did anybody see Purcell on Newsnight getting a grilling from the reporter last night? Funny stuff - however, he claims the deprivation of the East End began in the 1980's and he blames the tories Sadly Mr Purcell, although I am a year younger than you, you have insulted my intelligence as well as those who have lived through three, going on four generations of deprivation because its been going on a lot longer than that - either that archives at the BBC are telling lies.[/quote] Aye, seen him spouting utter tripe about how the Tories were to blame for the problems created by 50 years of liebour dodgy dealing and total incompetence from him and his labour predeccesors. Hopefully the standards commissioner will do a proper job investigating him and his labour mob of 10. With any luck he wont be around in 2114. I wish the ET would stop pasting his slimy fat face in their wee daft story's. We already know what bawface looks like.[/quote]
Fuly agree with you up until the typo re 2114!
That would be a fine thing if Purcell survived to be a centurian, especially with his baw face, as you put it, and ever expanding waistline. (Bet theres no food wasteage where he's around - LOL ;-)
Aye, & get Purcell's mug shots out of this paper - lets see less labour favouritism, and more SNP councillors, or the leader of the SNP in G.C.C.
ex labour voter wrote:
The Missing City wrote: Did anybody see Purcell on Newsnight getting a grilling from the reporter last night? Funny stuff - however, he claims the deprivation of the East End began in the 1980's and he blames the tories Sadly Mr Purcell, although I am a year younger than you, you have insulted my intelligence as well as those who have lived through three, going on four generations of deprivation because its been going on a lot longer than that - either that archives at the BBC are telling lies.
Aye, seen him spouting utter tripe about how the Tories were to blame for the problems created by 50 years of liebour dodgy dealing and total incompetence from him and his labour predeccesors. Hopefully the standards commissioner will do a proper job investigating him and his labour mob of 10. With any luck he wont be around in 2114. I wish the ET would stop pasting his slimy fat face in their wee daft story's. We already know what bawface looks like.
Fuly agree with you up until the typo re 2114!
That would be a fine thing if Purcell survived to be a centurian, especially with his baw face, as you put it, and ever expanding waistline. (Bet theres no food wasteage where he's around - LOL ;-)
Aye, & get Purcell's mug shots out of this paper - lets see less labour favouritism, and more SNP councillors, or the leader of the SNP in G.C.C.
Posted by: Frank, Glasgow on 6:28pm Tue 8 Jul 08
The usual snipers who cannot see a good thing happening in Glasgow. Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits. This will be proven when we hammer the so called competition in the east end. Waste of time having an election we win.
The usual snipers who cannot see a good thing happening in Glasgow. Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits. This will be proven when we hammer the so called competition in the east end. Waste of time having an election we win.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:36pm Tue 8 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Frank[/bold] wrote:
The usual snipers who cannot see a good thing happening in Glasgow. Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits. This will be proven when we hammer the so called competition in the east end. Waste of time having an election we win.[/quote]
Frank,
I hope you are keeping a log, or collection of your comments re-labour winning as you stated here, as the contest will be far too close to call.
SNP may not win by the huge majority labour had in 1995, but everyone knows of labours record of doing little or nothing to improve the lives of the people in Glasgow East, despite the cosmetic, external improvements.
Frank wrote:
The usual snipers who cannot see a good thing happening in Glasgow. Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits. This will be proven when we hammer the so called competition in the east end. Waste of time having an election we win.
Frank,
I hope you are keeping a log, or collection of your comments re-labour winning as you stated here, as the contest will be far too close to call.
SNP may not win by the huge majority labour had in 1995, but everyone knows of labours record of doing little or nothing to improve the lives of the people in Glasgow East, despite the cosmetic, external improvements.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:09pm Tue 8 Jul 08
What people have to realise is that Glasgow East has not been improved socially, or fundamentally - the geographics of the area may of improved slightly, with new builds, but overall if this laughable quote of Franks is to be believed........
[quote]Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits[/quote]
lets have a run down of all areas where improvements under labour have been made:
It is all very well Frank to be so generalistic, but the specifics of peoples quality of lives, and how they have improved are yet to be seen, felt, or demonstrated by a labour council.....
What people have to realise is that Glasgow East has not been improved socially, or fundamentally - the geographics of the area may of improved slightly, with new builds, but overall if this laughable quote of Franks is to be believed........
Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits
lets have a run down of all areas where improvements under labour have been made:
It is all very well Frank to be so generalistic, but the specifics of peoples quality of lives, and how they have improved are yet to be seen, felt, or demonstrated by a labour council.....
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 10:21pm Tue 8 Jul 08
how does that song go again?....I HAD A DREAM LALA LALA ( the nightmare is...who the truck is going to pay for this lot? mmm i wonder, call for Zorro slash this,cut that, and remember to give all our hard worked polititians a raise tee hee snigger!
how does that song go again?....I HAD A DREAM LALA LALA ( the nightmare is...who the truck is going to pay for this lot? mmm i wonder, call for Zorro slash this,cut that, and remember to give all our hard worked polititians a raise tee hee snigger!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:25pm Tue 8 Jul 08
You'd think that with Purcell being so proud of Glasgow winning these da*n games he'd be setting the kind of example people of Glasgow need to see, by getting on the treadmill himself, or more appropriately - Purcell - [italic]"On yer bike!"[/italic]
Always the same, one set of rules for us as a nation of fatties, and unfit buggers, yet our politicians & councillors it would seem are exempt from the initiatives they set, or policies they come up with to supposedly get our kids fitter, not fatter! Fat chance more likely. ;-)
You'd think that with Purcell being so proud of Glasgow winning these da*n games he'd be setting the kind of example people of Glasgow need to see, by getting on the treadmill himself, or more appropriately - Purcell -
"On yer bike!"
Always the same, one set of rules for us as a nation of fatties, and unfit buggers, yet our politicians & councillors it would seem are exempt from the initiatives they set, or policies they come up with to supposedly get our kids fitter, not fatter! Fat chance more likely. ;-)
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 8:31am Wed 9 Jul 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
What people have to realise is that Glasgow East has not been improved socially, or fundamentally - the geographics of the area may of improved slightly, with new builds, but overall if this laughable quote of Franks is to be believed........ [quote]Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits[/quote] lets have a run down of all areas where improvements under labour have been made: It is all very well Frank to be so generalistic, but the specifics of peoples quality of lives, and how they have improved are yet to be seen, felt, or demonstrated by a labour council..... [/quote] What is needed is a happy medium - the people themselves need to be motivated to improve their situation because we've seen it all before - buckets of public money gets thrown at building things just for an unappreciating and ungrateful minority to come and wreck and spoil it for the majority. Labour's policy of spend, spend spend clearly doesn't work - nor does the typical Tory line (that David CAmeron was uttering when him and IDS showed their toffy-nosed faces in the East End the other day)saying "it's their fault they're poor and ill, so just leave them to rot so the middle classes don't have to pay to keep them alive".
But finding a compromise is the $64,000 question isn't it??? For that reason I'll never fault people trying to find an answer and 2014 might just be the great white hope.
Stop rubbishing things before they even get off the ground.
People Power wrote:
What people have to realise is that Glasgow East has not been improved socially, or fundamentally - the geographics of the area may of improved slightly, with new builds, but overall if this laughable quote of Franks is to be believed........ Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits
lets have a run down of all areas where improvements under labour have been made: It is all very well Frank to be so generalistic, but the specifics of peoples quality of lives, and how they have improved are yet to be seen, felt, or demonstrated by a labour council.....
What is needed is a happy medium - the people themselves need to be motivated to improve their situation because we've seen it all before - buckets of public money gets thrown at building things just for an unappreciating and ungrateful minority to come and wreck and spoil it for the majority. Labour's policy of spend, spend spend clearly doesn't work - nor does the typical Tory line (that David CAmeron was uttering when him and IDS showed their toffy-nosed faces in the East End the other day)saying "it's their fault they're poor and ill, so just leave them to rot so the middle classes don't have to pay to keep them alive".
But finding a compromise is the $64,000 question isn't it??? For that reason I'll never fault people trying to find an answer and 2014 might just be the great white hope.
Stop rubbishing things before they even get off the ground.
Posted by: People Power on 9:21am Wed 9 Jul 08
[quote][bold]RapidAssistant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote: What people have to realise is that Glasgow East has not been improved socially, or fundamentally - the geographics of the area may of improved slightly, with new builds, but overall if this laughable quote of Franks is to be believed........ [quote]Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits[/quote] lets have a run down of all areas where improvements under labour have been made: It is all very well Frank to be so generalistic, but the specifics of peoples quality of lives, and how they have improved are yet to be seen, felt, or demonstrated by a labour council..... [/quote] What is needed is a happy medium - the people themselves need to be motivated to improve their situation because we've seen it all before - buckets of public money gets thrown at building things just for an unappreciating and ungrateful minority to come and wreck and spoil it for the majority. Labour's policy of spend, spend spend clearly doesn't work - nor does the typical Tory line (that David CAmeron was uttering when him and IDS showed their toffy-nosed faces in the East End the other day)saying "it's their fault they're poor and ill, so just leave them to rot so the middle classes don't have to pay to keep them alive". But finding a compromise is the $64,000 question isn't it??? For that reason I'll never fault people trying to find an answer and 2014 might just be the great white hope. Stop rubbishing things before they even get off the ground.[/quote]
Rapid Assistant,
Of course I see where you're coming from, and much as I'd like to see the positivity in the 2014 scenario, the way our leisure centres are being managed in an everyday basis at the moment by "Culture & Sport" is worrying.
Naturally people want to feel the benefits and positive after effects long after the athletes go home from the Olympic village, and all the events, competions, and when press photographers stop flashing ( their cameras that is!).
It's just difficult to believe that the ordinary people of Glasgow will benefit as much as Purcell likes us all to think.
Much of the glam, hyped up projections, images and pictures of how Glasgow will look come 2014 is for the benefit of the press, the outside world, and the politicians ego's.
Lets see some changes, and improvements made generally to communities who live in the East End, so they don't feel they are being sh*t upon from a great height by the so called ruling powers, who say one thing pre-election, then do another.
Lets ensure the most basic local needs of ordinary people are met in conjunction with all this disruption, and mayhem with the building of this Olympic - Commonwealth Village, that will benefit some, but not the majority.
Lets see Councillors genuinely engaging with the public reguarly about their concerns, and as you say stop throwning money at everything like it is the solution.
What we need is more joined up thinking, and common sense approaches, and less spin, rhetoric, meica hype and the beurocracy that comes along with formulation of layers upon layers of government policies.
RapidAssistant wrote:
People Power wrote: What people have to realise is that Glasgow East has not been improved socially, or fundamentally - the geographics of the area may of improved slightly, with new builds, but overall if this laughable quote of Franks is to be believed........ Labour have transformed the lifes of all in Glasgow and we all feel their benefits
lets have a run down of all areas where improvements under labour have been made: It is all very well Frank to be so generalistic, but the specifics of peoples quality of lives, and how they have improved are yet to be seen, felt, or demonstrated by a labour council.....
What is needed is a happy medium - the people themselves need to be motivated to improve their situation because we've seen it all before - buckets of public money gets thrown at building things just for an unappreciating and ungrateful minority to come and wreck and spoil it for the majority. Labour's policy of spend, spend spend clearly doesn't work - nor does the typical Tory line (that David CAmeron was uttering when him and IDS showed their toffy-nosed faces in the East End the other day)saying "it's their fault they're poor and ill, so just leave them to rot so the middle classes don't have to pay to keep them alive". But finding a compromise is the $64,000 question isn't it??? For that reason I'll never fault people trying to find an answer and 2014 might just be the great white hope. Stop rubbishing things before they even get off the ground.
Rapid Assistant,
Of course I see where you're coming from, and much as I'd like to see the positivity in the 2014 scenario, the way our leisure centres are being managed in an everyday basis at the moment by "Culture & Sport" is worrying.
Naturally people want to feel the benefits and positive after effects long after the athletes go home from the Olympic village, and all the events, competions, and when press photographers stop flashing ( their cameras that is!).
It's just difficult to believe that the ordinary people of Glasgow will benefit as much as Purcell likes us all to think.
Much of the glam, hyped up projections, images and pictures of how Glasgow will look come 2014 is for the benefit of the press, the outside world, and the politicians ego's.
Lets see some changes, and improvements made generally to communities who live in the East End, so they don't feel they are being sh*t upon from a great height by the so called ruling powers, who say one thing pre-election, then do another.
Lets ensure the most basic local needs of ordinary people are met in conjunction with all this disruption, and mayhem with the building of this Olympic - Commonwealth Village, that will benefit some, but not the majority.
Lets see Councillors genuinely engaging with the public reguarly about their concerns, and as you say stop throwning money at everything like it is the solution.
What we need is more joined up thinking, and common sense approaches, and less spin, rhetoric, meica hype and the beurocracy that comes along with formulation of layers upon layers of government policies.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 10:39am Wed 9 Jul 08
As with all politicians, when the downside of this project comes home to roost, they will all have moved on to pastures new and blame those in situ for the additional costs, etc.
You can't hit a moving target and that is why there are so many Cabinet re-shuffles.
When you think of it, Gordon Brown was the only person to remain in the same post for 10 years, therefore he is to blame for the state of the economy in this country. Unless of course he claims Tony made him do it!
As with all politicians, when the downside of this project comes home to roost, they will all have moved on to pastures new and blame those in situ for the additional costs, etc.
You can't hit a moving target and that is why there are so many Cabinet re-shuffles.
When you think of it, Gordon Brown was the only person to remain in the same post for 10 years, therefore he is to blame for the state of the economy in this country. Unless of course he claims Tony made him do it!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 4:29pm Wed 9 Jul 08
Yes, The Wise One, well put - the fact is that with the country in the mess it is in, is it any wonder that our politicians are moving on, resigning, being sacked, or having transfers.
How very convenient for them......
After all it isn't them who need to worry about their measly income, or the state of their libraries, leisure facilities, etc.
The divide between the classes, and health & wealth is clear to see, and you can guarantee our councillors & politicians won't need to worry come 2014 and beyond, they'll all look after each other, and line each others pockets.
Yes, The Wise One, well put - the fact is that with the country in the mess it is in, is it any wonder that our politicians are moving on, resigning, being sacked, or having transfers.
How very convenient for them......
After all it isn't them who need to worry about their measly income, or the state of their libraries, leisure facilities, etc.
The divide between the classes, and health & wealth is clear to see, and you can guarantee our councillors & politicians won't need to worry come 2014 and beyond, they'll all look after each other, and line each others pockets.
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