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Full speed ahead at transport museum
 
 

Exclusive by Vivienne Nicoll

AT the moment it is just a massive building site like so many others along the banks of the Clyde.

But within weeks, the public will see the first steelwork of an iconic world-class building rising from the ground.

Iconic building about to shape up on riverbank

ARCHIE Graham, the city council's executive spokesman for culture and sport, welcomed the first visible signs of the new museum.

He said: "These are exciting times for the Riverside Museum project - and the city - as the steel support structures of this landmark building will soon begin to rise from the ground.

"Expressway travellers and those on the south side of the river, will be able to watch the daily development of this addition to the city's skyline.

"This is a key stage in the development of a world-class attraction, an iconic building designed by a world-class architect.

"The museum will celebrate our legendary maritime, shipbuilding and land transport heritage and mark the world-changing achievements we made in engineering.

"More than twice the number of objects currently on display in the Museum of Transport will be on show in a state-of-the-art development.

"The project remains on track, on time and on budget."

The £74million Riverside Museum, which will replace the Transport Museum in the West End, will not open until the summer of 2011.

But 100 people are on site completing the groundwork necessary before the stunning structure by architect Zaha Hadid can begin to take shape.

The main work started on March 3 this year and involved excavating 6000 tonnes of material - the weight of 700 double decker buses.

It has been stockpiled on site while it is tested to see if it can be used in the project.

Jim Ward, construction manager for contractor HBG, is responsible for ensuring one of the largest museum developments in Britain goes according to plan.

He said: "We have created big mountains of earth on site and are doing chemical analysis to check if the material is suitable for re-use.

"It is better for the council and the environment if the material is re-usable."

Before work started, a site inspection was carried out by a structural engineer to establish exactly how far HBG would have to drill to find rock.

Once that was done, a carpet of stone was laid to support the drilling rigs needed to drive a staggering 1000 piles 20 metres into the ground.

They were filled with 1200 cubic meters of concrete and will support the ground floor slab of the new building.

Workers are now creating huge underground trenches which will conceal all the ventilation, mechanical and electrical services needed in the hi-tech museum.

Mr Ward said: "People passing the site will not see much because we are still working at underground level creating the trenches which will conceal all the services.

"Because they will all be underground, inside will have a very sleek architectural form."

The building site where the Clyde and the River Kelvin meet is the size of almost three football pitches, although the museum itself will be around the size of one pitch.

Around 1000 tonnes of steel in reinforced concrete is currently on site of which 300 tonnes has already been installed into the ground floor slab and trenches.

Despite the massive amount of work going on, the public are not likely to notice much happening until the first steel work rises from the ground in early Sep- tember.






Mr Ward said: "The steel framework will take us all the way through to May of next year."

The end of August 2010 is the target for finishing building work but it will take another year to fit it out.

HBG was the main contractor for the £35m revamp of Kelvingrove and the £16m improvement work carried out at the City Halls.

But Mr Ward admitted the highly unusual design of the Riverside Museum will present a challenge for him and his team, partly because of the scale and size of the roof.

He said: "A building like this could only be designed with the aid of a computer so it would not have been possible to build anything like it in the past.

"It is a 21st century design and will be an iconic building - something Glasgow can be proud of."

The museum will house more than 3000 objects and is expected to attract more than 500,000 visitors each year.

Publication date 17/07/08

Posted by: Brad on 11:09am Thu 17 Jul 08
"The project remains on track, on time and on budget." That'll be the revised (longer, dearer) timetable and budget then?
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:10am Thu 17 Jul 08
Used to be able to get Subway and just walk the 5 mins to old transport museum.Can we get a tram to this new TRANSPORT museum!.
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 11:16am Thu 17 Jul 08
From the Council's own website...
http://tinyurl.com/6
hefyt

"£50million", "open in 2009"...

Come on, ET, don't just reprint what the Council tell you each day!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:18am Thu 17 Jul 08
Oh well... yet another day of technical faults at the ET's servers... once they've fixed it I might post my comment on the story...
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:19am Thu 17 Jul 08
Can I post more than one paragraph?

Let's see...
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 11:38am Thu 17 Jul 08
jim wrote:
Used to be able to get Subway and just walk the 5 mins to old transport museum.Can we get a tram to this new TRANSPORT museum!.
Isn't some sort of tram link planned? The new museum is very near PARTICK Subway/Rail interchange - one of the many reasons for building it where it is, on the river!
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Doon by the Clyde on 11:39am Thu 17 Jul 08
Cindy,

Why bother posting - you are only going to moan about how much its costing or how long its taken. Please mate, Take a day off!

Grumpy Gordon
Sepll cehckers aer fro tsossres
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:12pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Archie Graham says, "The project remains on track, on time and on budget".

The project is a MASSIVE £45 MILLION OVER-BUDGET (original funding was £40 million and the "expenditure forecast" - as already reported in the ET - currently stands at £85 MILLION) and the flop is now going to be AT LEAST TWO YEARS LATE.

It is a shameful embarrassment to the ET that it cannot get the figures correct, and that it allows council mouthpieces to mis-inform the public unchallenged by factual evidence.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 12:40pm Thu 17 Jul 08
It's going to be great when it opens - can't wait!!
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Doon by the Clyde on 1:17pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Archie Graham says, "The project remains on track, on time and on budget". The project is a MASSIVE £45 MILLION OVER-BUDGET (original funding was £40 million and the "expenditure forecast" - as already reported in the ET - currently stands at £85 MILLION) and the flop is now going to be AT LEAST TWO YEARS LATE. It is a shameful embarrassment to the ET that it cannot get the figures correct, and that it allows council mouthpieces to mis-inform the public unchallenged by factual evidence.
Cindy,

Just prove me right then bad boy.

Things cost more these days!! so when a job is delayed its going to cost more! The orice of steel for example, is more than double what it was 5 years, ago mainly thanks to a boom in consturction in the far east. As this building will probobly be mainly of steel construction - it's no wonder it has gone up in price!

But then again, maybe we should'nt build anything interesting in our city and sit at home and snipe annonomysly on web forums when people try to do something constructive!!

Oh and another thing - why constantly slag the ET when it is more than apparent that you await every news story with baited breath, just to sink your poisoned gums into??


Grumpy Gordon
'Now devoted to disagree with Cindy Merrybleather whenever possible
Posted by: CrackerG, Glasgow on 1:20pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Archie Graham says, "The project remains on track, on time and on budget". The project is a MASSIVE £45 MILLION OVER-BUDGET (original funding was £40 million and the "expenditure forecast" - as already reported in the ET - currently stands at £85 MILLION) and the flop is now going to be AT LEAST TWO YEARS LATE. It is a shameful embarrassment to the ET that it cannot get the figures correct, and that it allows council mouthpieces to mis-inform the public unchallenged by factual evidence.
STOP READING THE PAPER AND/OR VISITING THIS SITE.

You clearly don't think much of the ET and it's articles, and you rarely bring anything useful to the discussions.

Stop bringing the rest of us down with your daily negativity, moaning and groaning. You're like a parody of the stereotypical 'nice but dim' complainer!!!!!
Posted by: Heidthebaw, Glasgow on 1:33pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Unlike a lot of other Govt projects this one will actually benefit the people and provide a new home for the fantastic transport museum.

I'd rather they spent the money on this than daft sculptures along the motorway and the like....

It's educational for the kids and tourists alike and is a big attraction for Glasgow.
Posted by: The Real Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 1:53pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Grumpy Gordon & Cracker G,

As I said yesterday, if all the wold's a stage, why does the BIGGEST CLOWN, Sydney Meriwether, always appear on this site?


The Real Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intolerable rodents."
Posted by: theboyofdestiny on 2:00pm Thu 17 Jul 08
is it just me, or does the 'size of one football pitch' sound a bit on the small side, especially given the cost of the project? I would have thought that the current museum has a larger footprint than that.

As for 'iconic world-class building', I'm a wee bit sceptical. It won't even be the most interesting building on the banks of the Clyde - the Rotundas and the Finnieston Crane are far more interesting. For a current iconic museum type building look up the new science and arts centre in Valencia and compare with Zaha's rather dreary renders for this venture
Posted by: buccleuch, Glasgow on 2:20pm Thu 17 Jul 08
The Hadid building is sinuous and cool.
But what to do with the ghastly, cheap housing that directly faces it across on the other side?
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 2:32pm Thu 17 Jul 08
3 years to go until it opens , bit premature to start talking about it, will it still be free and will it have the wee old street? as I loved the wee cinema and subway. fake cakes in the bakers lol ah the memories going with the primary school
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:02pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Ahhh... technical problems (kinda) fixed, here's my initial post... enjoy! ;-)

--

Sloppy reporting: it has already been reported in the ET that the forecast cost of this clueless waste-of-money has already risen to £85 MILLION, and it will NOT end there:
From the ET, Monday 21st April 2008:

"The museum, originally costed at (sic) £50m before rising by 50per cent last year, has now been given a total "expenditure forecast" of £85m."

....
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 3:02pm Thu 17 Jul 08
The museum will house more than 3000 objects


Edna - I wonder if the fake cakes are included in the 3000....
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:05pm Thu 17 Jul 08
As for the article:
"But within weeks, the public will see the first steelwork of an iconic world-class building rising from the ground."

Yes, no doubt it will be iconic in the same sense that the Squinty Bridge or the Glasgow (Science Centre) Tower is: a faulty (the roof is dodgy) embarrassing waste of taxpayers' money by New Labour numpties at a time when funds should be diverted into projects which will deliver real benefits to people in struggling communities.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:06pm Thu 17 Jul 08
--
Sydney Meriwether
"Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: maximusmop, townhead on 3:38pm Thu 17 Jul 08
theboyofdestiny wrote:
is it just me, or does the 'size of one football pitch' sound a bit on the small side, especially given the cost of the project? I would have thought that the current museum has a larger footprint than that. As for 'iconic world-class building', I'm a wee bit sceptical. It won't even be the most interesting building on the banks of the Clyde - the Rotundas and the Finnieston Crane are far more interesting. For a current iconic museum type building look up the new science and arts centre in Valencia and compare with Zaha's rather dreary renders for this venture
the current kelvin hall site is a lot bigger than the new on and as for the design, gaudie is what i think, still purrcellon a spending spree again, should pay the binmen what they are due before they STRIKE!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:56pm Thu 17 Jul 08
CrackerG whined:

You clearly don't think much of the ET and it's articles, and you rarely bring anything useful to the discussions.

Correct on the first point, well done, gold star!

Eh, would that "anything" not include the facts... they might mean nothing to you, but beyond New Labour fantasy land facts still actually count for something!

--
Sydney Meriwether
"Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Just seen cindy merimutha raiding the bins for food out the back of Asda - Enjoy your Clodslaw bud! on 3:58pm Thu 17 Jul 08
when funds should be diverted into projects which will deliver real benefits to people in struggling communities


Oh Cindy my dear fellow,

Give me example of such projects??

I believe the Transport museum is something that brings much joy to all the generations of Glasgow. A new and improved version could only heighten this.

We need such showpiece buildings to put Glasgow on the Map. Fair enough - the buildings may be bold, modern and some might say cold - but these are now the symbols of our city.

I Cindy Meriboy throught that the Empire Exhibition was a load of mince when was there as a boy.


Grumpy Gordon
Smiles Better than Meriwether
Posted by: theboyofdestiny on 3:59pm Thu 17 Jul 08
buccleuch wrote:
The Hadid building is sinuous and cool.
But what to do with the ghastly, cheap housing that directly faces it across on the other side?
Its not without interest, but the problem for me is that it seems that the best angle to view it from will be from the air. All very well for postcards and publicity shots but the renders don't seem to offer much at ground level. I would love to see what Scottish architects who have been immersed in local culture might have come up with.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:11pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Grumpy Gordon moaned:

Give me example of such projects??

Deary me, don't be a very silly boy... there are none: the only projects New Labour fund are ones like Culture and Sport Glasgow, which deliver more cash into the already-bulging pockets of a small number of their privileged chums!

That's all for me now, might post tomorrow if there's an Internet cafe in Ullapool... I don't like you all to miss out!!!

--
Sydney Meriwether
"Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: Eric Flack, Glasgow on 4:20pm Thu 17 Jul 08
I hope the roof wont leak! Or beams fall off the ceiling.
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Heading up to Ullapool for a dirty night away with Cindy on 4:23pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Well, well Cindy,

Why dont you come up with one of your own. How dare you Pontificate and say that everything everyone else does is rubbish and then not have anything constructive to suggest yourself.

You call me a silly boy... my oh my - I'm afraid its you that comes across as the wee boy - be that a jealous, spolied one at that.

Grumpy G.

PS Cindy - The Table's booked for 8.00 at the Restraunt down in the Harbour. Mind'n wear the undies I sent ya. xxx
Posted by: Brad, Staying at home on 4:26pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Gordon, only the perfect escapes Sydney's ire. And of course only Allah is perfect. Everything else - all the efforts of mere mortals - just rubbish, especially this decrepit new labour council .
Posted by: Brad, Still at home on 4:27pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Sorry, Allah and anything to do with the SNP.
Posted by: Al321, Glasgow on 4:36pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Used to be able to get Subway and just walk the 5 mins to old transport museum.Can we get a tram to this new TRANSPORT museum!.

Regrettably, it would appear not.

I'm sure I read somewhere that trams were considered but we're getting buses instead on cost grounds.

I think the bus lane for this service is in already (starts at the Tall Ship rdbt).
Posted by: The Real Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:57pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
-- Sydney Meriwether "Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Well it's a change from what you are normally, "outrageously known for getting up".


The Real Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's intolerable rodents."
Posted by: The Real Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 5:04pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Grumpy Gordon wrote:
Well, well Cindy, Why dont you come up with one of your own. How dare you Pontificate and say that everything everyone else does is rubbish and then not have anything constructive to suggest yourself. You call me a silly boy... my oh my - I'm afraid its you that comes across as the wee boy - be that a jealous, spolied one at that. Grumpy G. PS Cindy - The Table's booked for 8.00 at the Restraunt down in the Harbour. Mind'n wear the undies I sent ya. xxx
TOOOO Good, Gordon!



The Real Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intolerable rodents."
Posted by: Snidey Muddywatter, West Coast on 6:02pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Heh Meriwether, ah'll bet your teeth are glad when ye go tae sleep.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 6:53pm Thu 17 Jul 08
oops forgot..thought for one minute I was talking aboot the new transport museum...then I realised I was in the 'Slag off Sydney Times! I bet he is a woman all along, but it is good humoured, so maybe best form of flattery is imitation :-)

Posted by: stuart, glasgow on 7:36pm Thu 17 Jul 08
why this thing with big name foreign architects ?
I don't know how this design will pan out in the long term - it might be brilliant
however Dopey Dewar landed us with a hugely expensive dog's dinner at Holyrood - can't help thinking a Scottish architect would have done a better job
Posted by: Frank, Glasgow on 9:00pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Another great delivery for the people of Glasgow thanks to Labour. Although a few skeptics are on here, people know the Labour Council are delivering and making life much better for all its citizens, even these moaners!!
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 9:03pm Thu 17 Jul 08
I love looking at that aerial view, can I ask a doatty question..where are all the buses, trams, miniatures of boats , bikes cars, the gypsy caravan etc right now? Someone has a big lock up LOL.

I reckon it will be crackin looking inside, and canny wait to go and have a nosy in 2011 .
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 10:05pm Thu 17 Jul 08
the first steel work rises from the ground in early Sep- tember.


i didn't know september was hyphenated now lol
Posted by: momentum, Barrhead on 12:43am Fri 18 Jul 08
Looking forward to the new museum when its ready. Note I said when its ready - not when its overpaid/late/hyped. Don't care about any of these things. Will just be happy when its opened. Unlike some of the correspondents. They'd start a fight in an empty room. what is it about unmoderated forums that brings out the worst in people?
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 9:38am Fri 18 Jul 08
momentum i agree folk log on here to vent lol
Posted by: I Predict A Riot, Glasgow on 2:37pm Fri 18 Jul 08
But within weeks, the public will see the first steelwork of an iconic world-class building rising from the ground.

Finally,iconic and world class in the one sentence,now go for iconic,world class and Glasgow.lol
Posted by: BIG RAMBO, happy on 5:15pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I was told the new transport museum will only be able to show 1 bus at a time, surely this is not on, glasgows transport history of buses is big - they only had 3 in the first place, life for buses didnt end after 1958 - theres plenty of stuff they should have saved. All of the buses are now stored PRIVATELY out of the publics eye in Bridgeton, another unfair decision by the powers that be.
Posted by: Andrew Stephen on 8:54pm Fri 18 Jul 08
BIG RAMBO wrote:
I was told the new transport museum will only be able to show 1 bus at a time, surely this is not on, glasgows transport history of buses is big - they only had 3 in the first place, life for buses didnt end after 1958 - theres plenty of stuff they should have saved. All of the buses are now stored PRIVATELY out of the publics eye in Bridgeton, another unfair decision by the powers that be.
You can easily view a cross-section of ancient "Glasgow" (that started life elsewhere) buses at the foot of Hope Street at Central Station where numerous "Quick-as-winky"
(apologies to Dorothy Paul) bus operators can be seen clogging up the streets as the try to access Glasgow city centre from the south- side with their penny number passengers! CHOKE!
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