Posted by: Alan, West End on 11:04am Fri 18 Jul 08
This is excellent news - I look forward to it getting built and picking up some bargains there!!!
This is excellent news - I look forward to it getting built and picking up some bargains there!!!
Posted by: Big Al, Paisley on 11:05am Fri 18 Jul 08
Wow... let the bickering commence. I expect this one could merit it's own special edition of The Evening Times !
Meanwhile over here in Paisley, it's looking like Tesco will not now be building a new store at the site of St Mirren FC, but plan potentially up to four Tesco's of varying sizes around the town... Tesco Town indeed !
Wow... let the bickering commence. I expect this one could merit it's own special edition of The Evening Times !
Meanwhile over here in Paisley, it's looking like Tesco will not now be building a new store at the site of St Mirren FC, but plan potentially up to four Tesco's of varying sizes around the town... Tesco Town indeed !
Posted by: iloveglasgow, glasgow on 11:08am Fri 18 Jul 08
superb let the slagging commence
superb let the slagging commence
Posted by: Brad on 11:15am Fri 18 Jul 08
No slagging, please!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:23am Fri 18 Jul 08
[bold]Yet another failure of our decrepit city council to manage a sustainable and workable built environment in the city[/bold]... is it any wonder that investment levels in the city are plummeting as companies like Elphinstone, Selfridges and Aviva decide to take their business elsewhere.
Like the majority of East End residents... [bold]Glasgow isn't working[/bold]!
Yet another failure of our decrepit city council to manage a sustainable and workable built environment in the city... is it any wonder that investment levels in the city are plummeting as companies like Elphinstone, Selfridges and Aviva decide to take their business elsewhere.
Like the majority of East End residents...
Glasgow isn't working!
Posted by: the man, moral high ground on 11:37am Fri 18 Jul 08
When will the people of Glasgow come to their senses and realise that the Labour Party has been in power so long that they ignore what our citizens want . Margaret Curran repeats over and over in her unintelligble way that she will listen to the people and Labour also listens . Well make up your mind . Remember the saying you can fool some of the people etc.
Time for some sort of change in the way we are ruled and some sort of major demo at Tescos main stores .
When will the people of Glasgow come to their senses and realise that the Labour Party has been in power so long that they ignore what our citizens want . Margaret Curran repeats over and over in her unintelligble way that she will listen to the people and Labour also listens . Well make up your mind . Remember the saying you can fool some of the people etc.
Time for some sort of change in the way we are ruled and some sort of major demo at Tescos main stores .
Posted by: the man, moral high ground on 11:37am Fri 18 Jul 08
When will the people of Glasgow come to their senses and realise that the Labour Party has been in power so long that they ignore what our citizens want . Margaret Curran repeats over and over in her unintelligble way that she will listen to the people and Labour also listens . Well make up your mind . Remember the saying you can fool some of the people etc.
Time for some sort of change in the way we are ruled and some sort of major demo at Tescos main stores .
When will the people of Glasgow come to their senses and realise that the Labour Party has been in power so long that they ignore what our citizens want . Margaret Curran repeats over and over in her unintelligble way that she will listen to the people and Labour also listens . Well make up your mind . Remember the saying you can fool some of the people etc.
Time for some sort of change in the way we are ruled and some sort of major demo at Tescos main stores .
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:37am Fri 18 Jul 08
A word of warning to all those who post comments, slaggings or theor opinions here.
DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ - OR HEAR IN THE MEDIA.
As I have been lead to believe the E.T. have not been informed by the Directorate for Planning and Environmental Appeals.
There are still many conditions to be settled.
I suggest if the public can get access to the Public Enquiry reporters conclusions drawn up in their report they read it first before making any black & white assumptions based on this one sided news article.
Hopefully information on the real meaning of the reporters decisions, and findings will become clearer in the days and weeks to come.
Also, the hope is that a Public meeting may be held to clarify the situation and notify the public on the facts as they stand.
Not, the selective points, or words taken from the appeal hearing conclusions, which do not paint the full picture accross.
This is by no means the final decision, or outcome of whether Tesco is coming to town ( in this case Partick) or not.
[bold]AND[/bold]
The available options of where to go from here, are still all to be decided upon.
Basically, as issues like an "Environmental Impact Assessment" & "Traffic Management Assessment" appear not to be carried out in full Tesco still have a wide range of issues to resolve before any foundations are even layed.
The S.T.O.P. Aims & Objectives & all information on the Campaign can be viewed at: http://www.stoptesco
.info/index.html
Also:
The 4 main planning concerns continue to be:
1. Increased traffic, parking and access problems
2. Threat to locally-owned shops and family-owned businesses.
3. Contrary to the City Plan and policy guidance
4. Inappropriate design, scale and materials
Lets just see what transpires from the next few weeks & months.
As, I am not fully convinced by this news story.
I'd hold of the celebrations until the pro - Tesco lobby know the real facts in this story, not what the E.T. G.C.C. & Tesco want us to think.
A word of warning to all those who post comments, slaggings or theor opinions here.
DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ - OR HEAR IN THE MEDIA.
As I have been lead to believe the E.T. have not been informed by the Directorate for Planning and Environmental Appeals.
There are still many conditions to be settled.
I suggest if the public can get access to the Public Enquiry reporters conclusions drawn up in their report they read it first before making any black & white assumptions based on this one sided news article.
Hopefully information on the real meaning of the reporters decisions, and findings will become clearer in the days and weeks to come.
Also, the hope is that a Public meeting may be held to clarify the situation and notify the public on the facts as they stand.
Not, the selective points, or words taken from the appeal hearing conclusions, which do not paint the full picture accross.
This is by no means the final decision, or outcome of whether Tesco is coming to town ( in this case Partick) or not.
AND
The available options of where to go from here, are still all to be decided upon.
Basically, as issues like an "Environmental Impact Assessment" & "Traffic Management Assessment" appear not to be carried out in full Tesco still have a wide range of issues to resolve before any foundations are even layed.
The S.T.O.P. Aims & Objectives & all information on the Campaign can be viewed at: http://www.stoptesco
.info/index.html
Also:
The 4 main planning concerns continue to be:
1. Increased traffic, parking and access problems
2. Threat to locally-owned shops and family-owned businesses.
3. Contrary to the City Plan and policy guidance
4. Inappropriate design, scale and materials
Lets just see what transpires from the next few weeks & months.
As, I am not fully convinced by this news story.
I'd hold of the celebrations until the pro - Tesco lobby know the real facts in this story, not what the E.T. G.C.C. & Tesco want us to think.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 11:37am Fri 18 Jul 08
lol well everything was said about the pros and cons of this the couple of other times the story was carried, so some [italic]will[/italic] be pleased some [italic]willnae[/italic] , that's life, bet when I come back later , there will be a dozen slating it , and a dozen saying yippee and a few slaggin off Mr M lol.
carry on the good work peeps ;-)
lol well everything was said about the pros and cons of this the couple of other times the story was carried, so some
will be pleased some
willnae , that's life, bet when I come back later , there will be a dozen slating it , and a dozen saying yippee and a few slaggin off Mr M lol.
carry on the good work peeps ;-)
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 11:43am Fri 18 Jul 08
Are there any ASDA towns? I prefer ASDA...especially their Smart Price beans.
Are there any ASDA towns? I prefer ASDA...especially their Smart Price beans.
Posted by: QuincyMD, Glasgow on 11:50am Fri 18 Jul 08
Fantastic!
Every little helps.
Fantastic!
Every little helps.
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Doing ma shopping on 11:51am Fri 18 Jul 08
Fair play to Tesco, [italic]they have proven the case for their store[/italic] , so let it be built.
The Reporter has found in favour of the developer so end of story. No more arguments against it please.
These inquiries are a tool to make important descisions in an impartial manner for such large developements.
My question would be- [italic]who pays the cost for the inquiry[/italic] - are STOP going to pay Tescos costs? (in terms of legal representation and of lost earnings due to the delay in getting the store / development in place). I'd doubt it. The organisers will just find some other development to start a witch hunt with.
STOP obvioulsy [bold]could'nt prove their case against the development[/bold] and as a result Tesco and the public (as we have probobly paid for the inquiry through taxation) are out of pocket!
STOP - aye, [italic]please do[/italic] [bold]stop[/bold] ya petty Partick mischive makers!
Grumpy.
[italic]"Every Little helps Partick"[/italic]
Fair play to Tesco,
they have proven the case for their store , so let it be built.
The Reporter has found in favour of the developer so end of story. No more arguments against it please.
These inquiries are a tool to make important descisions in an impartial manner for such large developements.
My question would be-
who pays the cost for the inquiry - are STOP going to pay Tescos costs? (in terms of legal representation and of lost earnings due to the delay in getting the store / development in place). I'd doubt it. The organisers will just find some other development to start a witch hunt with.
STOP obvioulsy
could'nt prove their case against the development and as a result Tesco and the public (as we have probobly paid for the inquiry through taxation) are out of pocket!
STOP - aye,
please do stop ya petty Partick mischive makers!
Grumpy.
"Every Little helps Partick" Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 11:51am Fri 18 Jul 08
lol john kebab...thought you would be a farmfoods guy ma sel :-)
lol john kebab...thought you would be a farmfoods guy ma sel :-)
Posted by: Gazza, Glasgow on 11:56am Fri 18 Jul 08
Great news ... a total lack of affordable alternatives in the Byres Road area.
Great news ... a total lack of affordable alternatives in the Byres Road area.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:59am Fri 18 Jul 08
ill just sit in The Three judges and then ill decide if im going to shop in tesco or not.
ill just sit in The Three judges and then ill decide if im going to shop in tesco or not.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 12:02pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[bold]just heading to the Silverburn centre for a strollette, Tesco were in their plot 1st--a massive 2 yr before all the other retailers.[/bold] It isn't really a relevenet point, just talking rubbish to fill this wee box .Tesco were always in Pollok centre let's face it Silverburn is the Pollok centre wi a makeover...
I am never likely to be in Partick's store, as its no ma neck of the woods, wonder who has bought the Nestle plot at Barrhead, thought it was Tesco but maybe too close to SB centre?
am an asda chick ma sel and lately wandered into iceland and got some meal deals, and checked out Lidl as trying to tighten the old food budget.
Aw you hear and read is doom ,gloom, credit crunch, and I am going to ban ma self from reading bad news or watching it on telly any mer, and just put cds on and cartoon network LOL and do as ma kids do ! life is easier when you are no watching current news!
[italic]Cheap beans taste better in many cases!![/italic]
just heading to the Silverburn centre for a strollette, Tesco were in their plot 1st--a massive 2 yr before all the other retailers. It isn't really a relevenet point, just talking rubbish to fill this wee box .Tesco were always in Pollok centre let's face it Silverburn is the Pollok centre wi a makeover...
I am never likely to be in Partick's store, as its no ma neck of the woods, wonder who has bought the Nestle plot at Barrhead, thought it was Tesco but maybe too close to SB centre?
am an asda chick ma sel and lately wandered into iceland and got some meal deals, and checked out Lidl as trying to tighten the old food budget.
Aw you hear and read is doom ,gloom, credit crunch, and I am going to ban ma self from reading bad news or watching it on telly any mer, and just put cds on and cartoon network LOL and do as ma kids do ! life is easier when you are no watching current news!
Cheap beans taste better in many cases!! Posted by: Happy Harry, Glasgow on 12:04pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Good
This development will hopefully STOP people from Partick and the rest of the posh west end creating traffic congestion and pollution in Maryhill.
People in the West End need to learn that just because their rich and have friends in the media they don't rule the whole city.
Good
This development will hopefully STOP people from Partick and the rest of the posh west end creating traffic congestion and pollution in Maryhill.
People in the West End need to learn that just because their rich and have friends in the media they don't rule the whole city.
Posted by: Brad on 12:06pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Grodon, you are probably right that it is effctively "end of story". There will be a string of conditions attached to the planning consent but these are normal in the case of large developments and are unlikely to stop it going ahead.
However, tour comments re: STOP are misguided. The planning inquiry was [bold]called by the [bold]Scottish Government[/bold][/bold] in response to [bold]Tesco's appeal[/bold] against [bold]Glasgow City Council[/bold] . [bold]STOP and others have no formal power over the process[/bold] . They - like you - can merely submit their evidence to support or oppose the application. It is for the planning authorities and the applicant to decide how the application is processed. Perhaps you are suggesting that the public should not have the right even to comment on proposals in their area? That is all STOP had the power to do.
STOP's evidence may not have proved enough to throw out both applications. However, it did see off one application and significant concessions have been wrought as regards the other.
Grodon, you are probably right that it is effctively "end of story". There will be a string of conditions attached to the planning consent but these are normal in the case of large developments and are unlikely to stop it going ahead.
However, tour comments re: STOP are misguided. The planning inquiry was
called by the Scottish Government in response to
Tesco's appeal against
Glasgow City Council .
STOP and others have no formal power over the process . They - like you - can merely submit their evidence to support or oppose the application. It is for the planning authorities and the applicant to decide how the application is processed. Perhaps you are suggesting that the public should not have the right even to comment on proposals in their area? That is all STOP had the power to do.
STOP's evidence may not have proved enough to throw out both applications. However, it did see off one application and significant concessions have been wrought as regards the other.
Posted by: gggrrrrrrr, Glasgow on 12:07pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Surely there are more positives than negatives to Tesco building this large complex?
Surely there are more positives than negatives to Tesco building this large complex?
Posted by: Brad on 12:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]gggrrrrrrr[/bold] wrote:
Surely there are more positives than negatives to Tesco building this large complex? [/quote] depends on your point of view!
gggrrrrrrr wrote:
Surely there are more positives than negatives to Tesco building this large complex?
depends on your point of view!
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 12:11pm Fri 18 Jul 08
and if ye like cheap beans LOL
and if ye like cheap beans LOL
Posted by: silvixen, Glasgow on 12:12pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Im with Jim the three judges is the best place to sit and pontificate on the rights and wrongs then a quick nip into tesco for the bargain booze on the way home ;)
Im with Jim the three judges is the best place to sit and pontificate on the rights and wrongs then a quick nip into tesco for the bargain booze on the way home ;)
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Ullapool on 12:18pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Agreed.
[bold]At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts.[/bold]
--
Sydney Meriwether
[italic]Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic]
Agreed.
At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts.
--
Sydney Meriwether
Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists. Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:19pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Ill put one behind bar for you Silvixen! if you come in we can have a natter ,maybe get a wee Group going and discuss Tescotown,Compair prices etc.And wit we gonne dae aboot it eh.
Ill put one behind bar for you Silvixen! if you come in we can have a natter ,maybe get a wee Group going and discuss Tescotown,Compair prices etc.And wit we gonne dae aboot it eh.
Posted by: Brad on 12:22pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Sydney, not sure what you're agreeing with but that's irrelvant. Other than being quoted in the ET and giving their tuppenceworth at the odd meeting, [bold]no politicians[/bold] were directly involved in this planning process.
Unless you're suggesting that SNP ministers directly intervened to force the application through?
Sydney, not sure what you're agreeing with but that's irrelvant. Other than being quoted in the ET and giving their tuppenceworth at the odd meeting,
no politicians were directly involved in this planning process.
Unless you're suggesting that SNP ministers directly intervened to force the application through?
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:23pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Wits keeping you Silvixen, im sitting at end of Bar having a wee sherry!We can do a liquid lunch today if you like ,hehe
Wits keeping you Silvixen, im sitting at end of Bar having a wee sherry!We can do a liquid lunch today if you like ,hehe
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:24pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Wouldn't believe a word that comes from the lips of the labour party council whip, Aileen Colleran.
She has changed her postition on major developments like this to suit the time she says them. i.e pre - election say one thing post election - sit on the fence, or drop any support for the S.T.O.P movement. Very convenient.
Partick West councillor Aileen Colleran admitted she was stunned by the decision to grant planning permission.
She said: [italic]"I am disappointed because I felt the case against Tesco was very strong."[/italic]
As for Gordon Bickerton being in shock!
Hardly the most constructive thing to have said given the status he has within S.T.O.P.
Wouldn't believe a word that comes from the lips of the labour party council whip, Aileen Colleran.
She has changed her postition on major developments like this to suit the time she says them. i.e pre - election say one thing post election - sit on the fence, or drop any support for the S.T.O.P movement. Very convenient.
Partick West councillor Aileen Colleran admitted she was stunned by the decision to grant planning permission.
She said:
"I am disappointed because I felt the case against Tesco was very strong."
As for Gordon Bickerton being in shock!
Hardly the most constructive thing to have said given the status he has within S.T.O.P.
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Doon by the Clyde on 12:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Brad,
Im [bold]not[/bold] saying that people should not have the right to object, what I am saying is that if groups such as STOP wish to campaign against such developments with such venom in the media, they should be held (partially) accountable for delaying the project and for sullying the name of a retail body.
If I put in an application, had it turned down, appealed an then had such a group [italic]target[/italic] me - I would be pretty aggreived.
Grumpy.
Brad,
Im
not saying that people should not have the right to object, what I am saying is that if groups such as STOP wish to campaign against such developments with such venom in the media, they should be held (partially) accountable for delaying the project and for sullying the name of a retail body.
If I put in an application, had it turned down, appealed an then had such a group
target me - I would be pretty aggreived.
Grumpy.
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 12:36pm Fri 18 Jul 08
this 'town' is doomed right from start, 1300 student accomodation as against 300 private residential, you only have to look at the areas commandeered by the various educational instutions in the area, doesn't any one care for the plight of elderly homeless?
still look on the bright side, there could have been any number of take a ways and restaurants on that site Chinese, Indian, MacDonald's, Burgerking, pakora palace, fish n' chips and etc. etc. Oh! sh'ite get that petition out again
this 'town' is doomed right from start, 1300 student accomodation as against 300 private residential, you only have to look at the areas commandeered by the various educational instutions in the area, doesn't any one care for the plight of elderly homeless?
still look on the bright side, there could have been any number of take a ways and restaurants on that site Chinese, Indian, MacDonald's, Burgerking, pakora palace, fish n' chips and etc. etc. Oh! sh'ite get that petition out again
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Doon by the Clyde on 12:38pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
Agreed. [bold]At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts.[/bold] -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic] [/quote] [bold]Cindy,[/bold]
Reporters are [bold]IMPARTIAL[/bold] . [italic]They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry.[/italic]
The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders.
Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough'
Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something??
I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums.
Grumpy.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Agreed. At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts. -- Sydney Meriwether Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.
Cindy,
Reporters are
IMPARTIAL .
They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry.
The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders.
Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough'
Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something??
I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums.
Grumpy.
Posted by: Brad on 12:43pm Fri 18 Jul 08
STOP don't control the media either. The press thought they had a newsworthy story and reported it. As long as they don't say anything which is blatantly untrue or illegal, that's fine.
You seem to be suggesting that people have a right to comment - but only if it doesn't lead to any effects. Tesco's applications were not clear-cut cases (as the process proves): there were legitimate grounds for objection and their exposure to argument and debate is good. The right decision is better than a fast decision.
It was the Council and the Government who thought the delay was appropriate and did the actual delaying - not STOP.
STOP surely had a communication strategy to try and get coverage - but so does every organisation worth its salt. Free speech, free media are good principles to aspire to in my view.
This is no different to Gordon Brown delaying a fuel tax increase because he'd get a pasting in the press otherwise. Should the Tories have to make up some of the lost income to the Exchequer because they were on telly opposing an increase?
STOP don't control the media either. The press thought they had a newsworthy story and reported it. As long as they don't say anything which is blatantly untrue or illegal, that's fine.
You seem to be suggesting that people have a right to comment - but only if it doesn't lead to any effects. Tesco's applications were not clear-cut cases (as the process proves): there were legitimate grounds for objection and their exposure to argument and debate is good. The right decision is better than a fast decision.
It was the Council and the Government who thought the delay was appropriate and did the actual delaying - not STOP.
STOP surely had a communication strategy to try and get coverage - but so does every organisation worth its salt. Free speech, free media are good principles to aspire to in my view.
This is no different to Gordon Brown delaying a fuel tax increase because he'd get a pasting in the press otherwise. Should the Tories have to make up some of the lost income to the Exchequer because they were on telly opposing an increase?
Posted by: Brad on 12:45pm Fri 18 Jul 08
But I'm glad we agree on Sydney, Grumpy!
But I'm glad we agree on Sydney, Grumpy!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:47pm Fri 18 Jul 08
This is a classic example of Glasgow City's Councillors sitting on their hands.
And, with the complete lack of transparency in details from Tesco in how this store may or may not turn out like - assuming Tesco even decide to go ahead in Partick, and not sell off the land to another supermarket ?
Really there are alot of areas which we the public are not being notified and informed upon.
And, a story like this only gives us a glimpse into what may or may not go ahead.
Lets not count our chickens here, as until the full story emerges into the public domain we will only ever know a fraction of what is really going on behind closed doors.
The alleged dirty dealings and complete arrogance of some council officials, Tesco, and Glasgow Harbour never fail to amaze me.
As for the green space alongside the River Kelvin, and how it will be utilised to the best walkway for years to come seems to of been completely overlooked.
Perhaps it should be remembered that the Core Path Plan had specific recommendations in it, that don't seem to be getting adhered to.
I just hope this dirty dealing is far from what it seems, and when full light is shined upon the details the public get to see just how little the objections, and issues raised by S.T.O.P and other concerned members of the public, and enviromentalists alike have seemingly been brushed aside.
This is a classic example of Glasgow City's Councillors sitting on their hands.
And, with the complete lack of transparency in details from Tesco in how this store may or may not turn out like - assuming Tesco even decide to go ahead in Partick, and not sell off the land to another supermarket ?
Really there are alot of areas which we the public are not being notified and informed upon.
And, a story like this only gives us a glimpse into what may or may not go ahead.
Lets not count our chickens here, as until the full story emerges into the public domain we will only ever know a fraction of what is really going on behind closed doors.
The alleged dirty dealings and complete arrogance of some council officials, Tesco, and Glasgow Harbour never fail to amaze me.
As for the green space alongside the River Kelvin, and how it will be utilised to the best walkway for years to come seems to of been completely overlooked.
Perhaps it should be remembered that the Core Path Plan had specific recommendations in it, that don't seem to be getting adhered to.
I just hope this dirty dealing is far from what it seems, and when full light is shined upon the details the public get to see just how little the objections, and issues raised by S.T.O.P and other concerned members of the public, and enviromentalists alike have seemingly been brushed aside.
Posted by: ron Oliver, edinburgh on 12:56pm Fri 18 Jul 08
http://www.scotland.
gov.uk/Topics/Built-
Environment/planning
/decisions-appeals/A
ppeals/Details/Q/Cas
e_id/1326
this seems to suggest the appeal was dismissed or is it the wrong site?
http://www.scotland.
gov.uk/Topics/Built-
Environment/planning
/decisions-appeals/A
ppeals/Details/Q/Cas
e_id/1326
this seems to suggest the appeal was dismissed or is it the wrong site?
Posted by: Brad on 12:59pm Fri 18 Jul 08
That's the site, Ron, but your link only refers to the stand-alone store application, which was refused. No sign of the mixed-use 'Tesco Town' decision yet.
That's the site, Ron, but your link only refers to the stand-alone store application, which was refused. No sign of the mixed-use 'Tesco Town' decision yet.
Posted by: Grumpy Gordon, Doon by the Clyde on 1:04pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[bold]Brad,[/bold]
What I would suggest is that anyone can put in an objection, but in doing so the would have to put a bond (say £200) in place to guarentee that there argument is valid. This would be paid back if the reporter though that their case had merit but would be retained if their argument was invalid / unhelpful and mereley delayed the process.
The reporter would decide if the money was paid back or not based on their view on the validity of the argument put forward.
This would deter obejctors objecting just for the hell of it as there would be a bit of cash riding on it (ie it would keep guys like Cindy Merimutha out of the loop!)
[bold]Grumpy.[/bold] [italic]"Nae time for Nae-sayers"[/italic]
Brad,
What I would suggest is that anyone can put in an objection, but in doing so the would have to put a bond (say £200) in place to guarentee that there argument is valid. This would be paid back if the reporter though that their case had merit but would be retained if their argument was invalid / unhelpful and mereley delayed the process.
The reporter would decide if the money was paid back or not based on their view on the validity of the argument put forward.
This would deter obejctors objecting just for the hell of it as there would be a bit of cash riding on it (ie it would keep guys like Cindy Merimutha out of the loop!)
Grumpy. "Nae time for Nae-sayers"
Posted by: Scott, Airdrie on 1:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Grumpy Gordon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote: Agreed. [bold]At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts.[/bold] -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic] [/quote] [bold]Cindy,[/bold] Reporters are [bold]IMPARTIAL[/bold] . [italic]They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry.[/italic] The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders. Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough' Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something?? I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums. Grumpy. [/quote] Unfortunately, I doubt Sydney will ever run out of bile.....
If he was so smart, and the politicians so incompetent, he'd be in public office somewhere doing a better job than them, instead of hiding behind his keyboard.
But then, it's easy to abuse others when you can remain anonymous, don't have to actually suggest any better ideas of your own, and have nothing better to do than whinge about everything.
I think it's all down to jealousy, personally.
Grumpy Gordon wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote: Agreed. At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts. -- Sydney Meriwether Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.
Cindy, Reporters are IMPARTIAL . They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry. The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders. Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough' Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something?? I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums. Grumpy.
Unfortunately, I doubt Sydney will ever run out of bile.....
If he was so smart, and the politicians so incompetent, he'd be in public office somewhere doing a better job than them, instead of hiding behind his keyboard.
But then, it's easy to abuse others when you can remain anonymous, don't have to actually suggest any better ideas of your own, and have nothing better to do than whinge about everything.
I think it's all down to jealousy, personally.
Posted by: Brad on 1:21pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Grumpy Gordon[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Brad,[/bold] What I would suggest is that anyone can put in an objection, but in doing so the would have to put a bond (say £200) in place to guarentee that there argument is valid. This would be paid back if the reporter though that their case had merit but would be retained if their argument was invalid / unhelpful and mereley delayed the process. The reporter would decide if the money was paid back or not based on their view on the validity of the argument put forward. This would deter obejctors objecting just for the hell of it as there would be a bit of cash riding on it (ie it would keep guys like Cindy Merimutha out of the loop!) [bold]Grumpy.[/bold] [italic]"Nae time for Nae-sayers"[/italic] [/quote] [bold]Absolutely not[/bold] , Grumpy! Basic rights are not for betting on! It's also especially unfair on the poor who [italic]already[/italic] have worse environmental conditions, less voice, etc.
My whole point is that [italic]invalid objections don't delay the process[/italic] . It has to be valid to have any effect. Hence why STOP were very clear that they were objecting on legitimate planning issues. NOT 'cos (e.g.) they don't like Tesco (myself, I do like Tesco but I still objected to these [italic]specific[/italic] application).
Invalid objections shouldn't delay the process, we agree. The delay in this case was because [bold]there were valid arguments[/bold] .
Going for lunch now, nice talking with you!
Grumpy Gordon wrote:
Brad, What I would suggest is that anyone can put in an objection, but in doing so the would have to put a bond (say £200) in place to guarentee that there argument is valid. This would be paid back if the reporter though that their case had merit but would be retained if their argument was invalid / unhelpful and mereley delayed the process. The reporter would decide if the money was paid back or not based on their view on the validity of the argument put forward. This would deter obejctors objecting just for the hell of it as there would be a bit of cash riding on it (ie it would keep guys like Cindy Merimutha out of the loop!) Grumpy. "Nae time for Nae-sayers"
Absolutely not , Grumpy! Basic rights are not for betting on! It's also especially unfair on the poor who
already have worse environmental conditions, less voice, etc.
My whole point is that
invalid objections don't delay the process . It has to be valid to have any effect. Hence why STOP were very clear that they were objecting on legitimate planning issues. NOT 'cos (e.g.) they don't like Tesco (myself, I do like Tesco but I still objected to these
specific application).
Invalid objections shouldn't delay the process, we agree. The delay in this case was because
there were valid arguments .
Going for lunch now, nice talking with you!
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 1:31pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I agree with the comments previouasly that this report is premature. If the council allow this development then they are breaking the governments own rules. The government put tghrough legislation that any new supermarkets can nor be within a cetain amnount of miles of each other. so going by Glasgow all the Tescos in the city centre will allow the council to be legally prosecuted by the Labour government at Westminster. As far as the Tescos in Partick is concerned i dont care. Partick has been lost for years due to buy to let landlords turning areas of Partick into a ghost town. I hope the development goes ahead cuae it means we will see the council being legally prosecuted by their Labour government and being subject to an enquiry from the Government Ombudsman. [bold]Bring on the Tescos!![/bold]
I agree with the comments previouasly that this report is premature. If the council allow this development then they are breaking the governments own rules. The government put tghrough legislation that any new supermarkets can nor be within a cetain amnount of miles of each other. so going by Glasgow all the Tescos in the city centre will allow the council to be legally prosecuted by the Labour government at Westminster. As far as the Tescos in Partick is concerned i dont care. Partick has been lost for years due to buy to let landlords turning areas of Partick into a ghost town. I hope the development goes ahead cuae it means we will see the council being legally prosecuted by their Labour government and being subject to an enquiry from the Government Ombudsman.
Bring on the Tescos!! Posted by: Happychappy, glasgow on 1:46pm Fri 18 Jul 08
The credit crunch, mortgage availability, and lack of confidence in the housing market would probably mean this venture is unlikely in the near future.
The credit crunch, mortgage availability, and lack of confidence in the housing market would probably mean this venture is unlikely in the near future.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 1:49pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[bold]marks and spencers have a sale[/bold] on I have just come from silverburn well shoes that were £39.00 that I was after were £19 and dresses for £35 are £19 too, tops that were £12 I got for a fiver, I am chuffed, the sale started yesterday. This is better , NORMAL shopper prices, the shoes are quality [italic]per una[/italic] leather ones and I was pleased that they were less than half price! Think m&s are doing very badly just now.
marks and spencers have a sale on I have just come from silverburn well shoes that were £39.00 that I was after were £19 and dresses for £35 are £19 too, tops that were £12 I got for a fiver, I am chuffed, the sale started yesterday. This is better , NORMAL shopper prices, the shoes are quality
per una leather ones and I was pleased that they were less than half price! Think m&s are doing very badly just now.
Posted by: arturo, Glasgow on 1:55pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Edna Bucket[/bold] wrote:
[bold]just heading to the Silverburn centre for a strollette, Tesco were in their plot 1st--a massive 2 yr before all the other retailers.[/bold] It isn't really a relevenet point, just talking rubbish to fill this wee box .Tesco were always in Pollok centre let's face it Silverburn is the Pollok centre wi a makeover... I am never likely to be in Partick's store, as its no ma neck of the woods, wonder who has bought the Nestle plot at Barrhead, thought it was Tesco but maybe too close to SB centre? am an asda chick ma sel and lately wandered into iceland and got some meal deals, and checked out Lidl as trying to tighten the old food budget. Aw you hear and read is doom ,gloom, credit crunch, and I am going to ban ma self from reading bad news or watching it on telly any mer, and just put cds on and cartoon network LOL and do as ma kids do ! life is easier when you are no watching current news! [italic]Cheap beans taste better in many cases!![/italic] [/quote] Never a truer word typed. Well seeing the war is old news so the media decide to harp on about the dire straights of our country. Does my head in especially when half the time the stories start with words like 'potentially' or 'worst case scenario'. How about a bit of perspective instead of continual Armageddon news?
Edna Bucket wrote:
just heading to the Silverburn centre for a strollette, Tesco were in their plot 1st--a massive 2 yr before all the other retailers. It isn't really a relevenet point, just talking rubbish to fill this wee box .Tesco were always in Pollok centre let's face it Silverburn is the Pollok centre wi a makeover... I am never likely to be in Partick's store, as its no ma neck of the woods, wonder who has bought the Nestle plot at Barrhead, thought it was Tesco but maybe too close to SB centre? am an asda chick ma sel and lately wandered into iceland and got some meal deals, and checked out Lidl as trying to tighten the old food budget. Aw you hear and read is doom ,gloom, credit crunch, and I am going to ban ma self from reading bad news or watching it on telly any mer, and just put cds on and cartoon network LOL and do as ma kids do ! life is easier when you are no watching current news! Cheap beans taste better in many cases!!
Never a truer word typed. Well seeing the war is old news so the media decide to harp on about the dire straights of our country. Does my head in especially when half the time the stories start with words like 'potentially' or 'worst case scenario'. How about a bit of perspective instead of continual Armageddon news?
Posted by: arturo, Glasgow on 2:00pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Happy Harry[/bold] wrote:
Good This development will hopefully STOP people from Partick and the rest of the posh west end creating traffic congestion and pollution in Maryhill. People in the West End need to learn that just because their rich and have friends in the media they don't rule the whole city.[/quote] Great point Harry we are all loaded in the West End.... Nothing like generalisation!
How did you know we ruled the city? I thought that was a secret between posh people?
Happy Harry wrote:
Good This development will hopefully STOP people from Partick and the rest of the posh west end creating traffic congestion and pollution in Maryhill. People in the West End need to learn that just because their rich and have friends in the media they don't rule the whole city.
Great point Harry we are all loaded in the West End.... Nothing like generalisation!
How did you know we ruled the city? I thought that was a secret between posh people?
Posted by: Darren Wood, Glasgow on 2:10pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I agree with the poster who said the ET has jumped the gun with this story. It is a long way short of Tesco getting the green light. The ball is now back in the court of Glasgow City Council. They require to reach agreement with Tesco for the plan to go ahead.
Another issue is that part of the land Tesco require has been sold to Glasgow Harbour by the council and they are opposed to Tesco's plan. The larger scheme cannot go ahead without this land. The smaller scheme for a stand alone store could possibly have went ahead but that has been rejected by the reporter.
I think this story will continue to run and run.
I agree with the poster who said the ET has jumped the gun with this story. It is a long way short of Tesco getting the green light. The ball is now back in the court of Glasgow City Council. They require to reach agreement with Tesco for the plan to go ahead.
Another issue is that part of the land Tesco require has been sold to Glasgow Harbour by the council and they are opposed to Tesco's plan. The larger scheme cannot go ahead without this land. The smaller scheme for a stand alone store could possibly have went ahead but that has been rejected by the reporter.
I think this story will continue to run and run.
Posted by: Snidey Muddywatter, West Coast on 2:15pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Ah sometimes think Meriwether disnae like like New Labour. Jist a wee inklin' ah get efter some o' his comments know whit ah mean? See me, see insightful......
Ah sometimes think Meriwether disnae like like New Labour. Jist a wee inklin' ah get efter some o' his comments know whit ah mean? See me, see insightful......
Posted by: emma, Glasgow on 2:18pm Fri 18 Jul 08
This is a laugh, anyone can see the whole area has too much traffic! Wonder who was receiving the brown envelope today
This is a laugh, anyone can see the whole area has too much traffic! Wonder who was receiving the brown envelope today
Posted by: Brad on 2:38pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]emma[/bold] wrote:
This is a laugh, anyone can see the whole area has too much traffic! Wonder who was receiving the brown envelope today[/quote] well, who do you think, emma?
emma wrote:
This is a laugh, anyone can see the whole area has too much traffic! Wonder who was receiving the brown envelope today
well, who do you think, emma?
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 2:39pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Dumbarton Road may well be on course to become the new Govan Road
Well done Labour, you got your way
But for how much longer, it seems odd that for a party who has deep affection for people in Glasgow, it seems to continue to shaft the communities they have been elected to represent, but the longer they are in control, the more they seem to be tightening the noose on its very few victorian communities and the dwindling choice people have left.
Does The Labour Party not like these areas?
Do they consider Partick to be a slum as much the way they have viewed other long standing conmmunities in the city?
Sad
But all the while, another example of England's grip on our society here in Glasgow and all across Scotland as they dominate and begin to take over large areas of the city.
I bet you all who are in support of Tesco will be angry that you will have to go into a small shop on a street to get such things as a haircut or a grocery item in an emergency, and when Tesco opens there, I can see people standing in humungous queues to buy their Daily Retard and their milk - just like sheep programmed to follow the flock!
Welcome to The Muppet Show
Dumbarton Road may well be on course to become the new Govan Road
Well done Labour, you got your way
But for how much longer, it seems odd that for a party who has deep affection for people in Glasgow, it seems to continue to shaft the communities they have been elected to represent, but the longer they are in control, the more they seem to be tightening the noose on its very few victorian communities and the dwindling choice people have left.
Does The Labour Party not like these areas?
Do they consider Partick to be a slum as much the way they have viewed other long standing conmmunities in the city?
Sad
But all the while, another example of England's grip on our society here in Glasgow and all across Scotland as they dominate and begin to take over large areas of the city.
I bet you all who are in support of Tesco will be angry that you will have to go into a small shop on a street to get such things as a haircut or a grocery item in an emergency, and when Tesco opens there, I can see people standing in humungous queues to buy their Daily Retard and their milk - just like sheep programmed to follow the flock!
Welcome to The Muppet Show
Posted by: Brad on 2:41pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Darren Wood[/bold] wrote:
I agree with the poster who said the ET has jumped the gun with this story. It is a long way short of Tesco getting the green light. The ball is now back in the court of Glasgow City Council. They require to reach agreement with Tesco for the plan to go ahead. Another issue is that part of the land Tesco require has been sold to Glasgow Harbour by the council and they are opposed to Tesco's plan. The larger scheme cannot go ahead without this land. The smaller scheme for a stand alone store could possibly have went ahead but that has been rejected by the reporter. I think this story will continue to run and run.[/quote] At the inquiry, the reporter asked GCC and Tesco to agree a set of conditions to apply in the event that he gave the go-ahead to one or both schemes. The reporter doesn't have to agree with the conditions Tesco and GCC come up with of course but I'm not sure he's be a million miles away. We'll see...
Darren Wood wrote:
I agree with the poster who said the ET has jumped the gun with this story. It is a long way short of Tesco getting the green light. The ball is now back in the court of Glasgow City Council. They require to reach agreement with Tesco for the plan to go ahead. Another issue is that part of the land Tesco require has been sold to Glasgow Harbour by the council and they are opposed to Tesco's plan. The larger scheme cannot go ahead without this land. The smaller scheme for a stand alone store could possibly have went ahead but that has been rejected by the reporter. I think this story will continue to run and run.
At the inquiry, the reporter asked GCC and Tesco to agree a set of conditions to apply in the event that he gave the go-ahead to one or both schemes. The reporter doesn't have to agree with the conditions Tesco and GCC come up with of course but I'm not sure he's be a million miles away. We'll see...
Posted by: Hank Marvin, Cludgie on 2:52pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Have ye all quite finished with the Friday chirpy chat? As I really need to go to Tesco and buy bread and milk and 20p beans, and at this rate I will just end up shopping online and there will no need for big footery fancy stores. And am starvin' .
Have ye all quite finished with the Friday chirpy chat? As I really need to go to Tesco and buy bread and milk and 20p beans, and at this rate I will just end up shopping online and there will no need for big footery fancy stores. And am starvin' .
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:02pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Hank Marvin[/bold] wrote:
Have ye all quite finished with the Friday chirpy chat? As I really need to go to Tesco and buy bread and milk and 20p beans, and at this rate I will just end up shopping online and there will no need for big footery fancy stores. And am starvin' .[/quote] A point I made a few months ago with regards to Buchanan Galleries expansion Hank
If the technology pushers, (for which there seems to be a few on here) they can't seem to make their mind up whether they want shopping mall or internet shopping
On the other hand, a large amount of people are ripping open the base of their couches to find the money for a tin of beans.
Sweep Sweep, this doesn't exist in Labour's world!
Hank Marvin wrote:
Have ye all quite finished with the Friday chirpy chat? As I really need to go to Tesco and buy bread and milk and 20p beans, and at this rate I will just end up shopping online and there will no need for big footery fancy stores. And am starvin' .
A point I made a few months ago with regards to Buchanan Galleries expansion Hank
If the technology pushers, (for which there seems to be a few on here) they can't seem to make their mind up whether they want shopping mall or internet shopping
On the other hand, a large amount of people are ripping open the base of their couches to find the money for a tin of beans.
Sweep Sweep, this doesn't exist in Labour's world!
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 3:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08
To paraphrase an old truism
Money talks
Money talks absolutly
A disgraceful decision which will not benefit the area or the people who live in it
To paraphrase an old truism
Money talks
Money talks absolutly
A disgraceful decision which will not benefit the area or the people who live in it
Posted by: The Real Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:09pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Yet another failure of our decrepit city council to manage a sustainable and workable built environment in the city[/bold]... is it any wonder that investment levels in the city are plummeting as companies like Elphinstone, Selfridges and Aviva decide to take their business elsewhere. Like the majority of East End residents... [bold]Glasgow isn't working[/bold]![/quote] GUFF and BLUSTER, as usual.
I see your promise not to post today was an "election promise".
I knew you just couldn't resist seeing your name in print.
Unlike Snydey Meriwether,
I LOVE GLASGOW.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Yet another failure of our decrepit city council to manage a sustainable and workable built environment in the city... is it any wonder that investment levels in the city are plummeting as companies like Elphinstone, Selfridges and Aviva decide to take their business elsewhere. Like the majority of East End residents... Glasgow isn't working!
GUFF and BLUSTER, as usual.
I see your promise not to post today was an "election promise".
I knew you just couldn't resist seeing your name in print.
Unlike Snydey Meriwether,
I LOVE GLASGOW.
Posted by: Jacqui, Partick on 3:30pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I cant believe this "Tesco Town" ... It's so horrible as i live at Keith Court, So if Tesco Town, then the i wouldnt have got sun cos the tesco town plan get way, its so horrible as would make it so busy roads, as not safe places!!!
So shocked!!!!! :-(
I cant believe this "Tesco Town" ... It's so horrible as i live at Keith Court, So if Tesco Town, then the i wouldnt have got sun cos the tesco town plan get way, its so horrible as would make it so busy roads, as not safe places!!!
So shocked!!!!! :-(
Posted by: Jacqui, Partick on 3:32pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Also it would not be safe for kids cos kids alway play around this area at keith court near "Stupid Tesco Town" So it will not be safe for childrens as the road'll be end up smaller than now cos tesco town take over!!!
So DISGRACE!!!!
Also it would not be safe for kids cos kids alway play around this area at keith court near "Stupid Tesco Town" So it will not be safe for childrens as the road'll be end up smaller than now cos tesco town take over!!!
So DISGRACE!!!!
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:39pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jacqui[/bold] wrote:
Also it would not be safe for kids cos kids alway play around this area at keith court near "Stupid Tesco Town" So it will not be safe for childrens as the road'll be end up smaller than now cos tesco town take over!!! So DISGRACE!!!![/quote] Jacqui, if you think that's bad - social regeneration is allowing for the construction of back and front door homes with gardens on some of the busiest streets in the city.
That isn't sfae for children as this is what these homes are being built for.
On top of Traffic Management ****-ups, the allergic reaction to public transport as well as the continued de-urbanisation of the city the whole place is a pure mess and it would seem sensible to move away from Glasgow, just like the many hunderds of thousands of people who have done this since the mid 1950's.
Jacqui wrote:
Also it would not be safe for kids cos kids alway play around this area at keith court near "Stupid Tesco Town" So it will not be safe for childrens as the road'll be end up smaller than now cos tesco town take over!!! So DISGRACE!!!!
Jacqui, if you think that's bad - social regeneration is allowing for the construction of back and front door homes with gardens on some of the busiest streets in the city.
That isn't sfae for children as this is what these homes are being built for.
On top of Traffic Management ****-ups, the allergic reaction to public transport as well as the continued de-urbanisation of the city the whole place is a pure mess and it would seem sensible to move away from Glasgow, just like the many hunderds of thousands of people who have done this since the mid 1950's.
Posted by: markydc, Glasgow on 4:03pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Why does everyone on here just complain?
Seriously, if you don't like the Tesco development then dont shop in Tesco but you can hardly argue against it being a development site. This land before Tesco were interested was brownfield land that was derelict and induced many unsociable problems such as kids running riot, burned out cars etc.
There are three main reasons why this will and should go ahead. Firstly, the site was derelict and in our current climate inducing more urban regeneration is a primary aim of planning and social housing is a key aim in Glasgow.
Secondly, if tesco were able to demonstrate that traffic from partick and its surroundings travelled extensively to other stores, whih given their resources the probably did, then it beneficial aspects outway its negative environmental aspects. Also, as mentionioned an EIA will be carried out and if this is acceptable, I work in this field and it most probably is subject to many planning conditions, then the site will be released.
Thirdly, Glasgow is not a nice city and any modern developments will improve the city and although everyone and their dog hates tesco it must be stated that Tesco do introduce many socio-economic benefits to an area.
Moroever, people who complain about modern developments in your beloved 'west end' not so long ago everyone complained about similar developmenst. Nobody wants these developments in their area but you all want food and clothing so somewhere it has to be provided. Also, modern housing and mixed use developmenst are socially, environmentally and economically efficent so please dont complain that planners and companys are taking advantage as they are just improving a city that is already a mish mash of terrible architecture and years of planning disasters.
Why does everyone on here just complain?
Seriously, if you don't like the Tesco development then dont shop in Tesco but you can hardly argue against it being a development site. This land before Tesco were interested was brownfield land that was derelict and induced many unsociable problems such as kids running riot, burned out cars etc.
There are three main reasons why this will and should go ahead. Firstly, the site was derelict and in our current climate inducing more urban regeneration is a primary aim of planning and social housing is a key aim in Glasgow.
Secondly, if tesco were able to demonstrate that traffic from partick and its surroundings travelled extensively to other stores, whih given their resources the probably did, then it beneficial aspects outway its negative environmental aspects. Also, as mentionioned an EIA will be carried out and if this is acceptable, I work in this field and it most probably is subject to many planning conditions, then the site will be released.
Thirdly, Glasgow is not a nice city and any modern developments will improve the city and although everyone and their dog hates tesco it must be stated that Tesco do introduce many socio-economic benefits to an area.
Moroever, people who complain about modern developments in your beloved 'west end' not so long ago everyone complained about similar developmenst. Nobody wants these developments in their area but you all want food and clothing so somewhere it has to be provided. Also, modern housing and mixed use developmenst are socially, environmentally and economically efficent so please dont complain that planners and companys are taking advantage as they are just improving a city that is already a mish mash of terrible architecture and years of planning disasters.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 4:09pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Scott[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Grumpy Gordon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote: Agreed. [bold]At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts.[/bold] -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic] [/quote] [bold]Cindy,[/bold] Reporters are [bold]IMPARTIAL[/bold] . [italic]They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry.[/italic] The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders. Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough' Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something?? I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums. Grumpy. [/quote] Unfortunately, I doubt Sydney will ever run out of bile.....
If he was so smart, and the politicians so incompetent, he'd be in public office somewhere doing a better job than them, instead of hiding behind his keyboard.
But then, it's easy to abuse others when you can remain anonymous, don't have to actually suggest any better ideas of your own, and have nothing better to do than whinge about everything.
I think it's all down to jealousy, personally.[/quote] Och Scott fae Airdrie, you're just still in a huff since I wiped the floor with you over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates - good to see it still hurts you though. ;-)
Sydney Meriwether
[italic]Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic]
Scott wrote:
Grumpy Gordon wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote: Agreed. At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts. -- Sydney Meriwether Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.
Cindy, Reporters are IMPARTIAL . They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry. The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders. Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough' Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something?? I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums. Grumpy.
Unfortunately, I doubt Sydney will ever run out of bile.....
If he was so smart, and the politicians so incompetent, he'd be in public office somewhere doing a better job than them, instead of hiding behind his keyboard.
But then, it's easy to abuse others when you can remain anonymous, don't have to actually suggest any better ideas of your own, and have nothing better to do than whinge about everything.
I think it's all down to jealousy, personally.
Och Scott fae Airdrie, you're just still in a huff since I wiped the floor with you over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates - good to see it still hurts you though. ;-)
Sydney Meriwether
Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists. Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:16pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
Sydney, not sure what you're agreeing with but that's irrelvant. Other than being quoted in the ET and giving their tuppenceworth at the odd meeting, [bold]no politicians[/bold] were directly involved in this planning process.
Unless you're suggesting that SNP ministers directly intervened to force the application through?[/quote] As always, the only thing which is irrelevant around here is yourself - as you prove monotonously on a daily basis with your banal, tedious comments on subjects you know nothing about.
--
Sydney Meriwether
"[italic]Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic]"
Brad wrote:
Sydney, not sure what you're agreeing with but that's irrelvant. Other than being quoted in the ET and giving their tuppenceworth at the odd meeting, no politicians were directly involved in this planning process.
Unless you're suggesting that SNP ministers directly intervened to force the application through?
As always, the only thing which is irrelevant around here is yourself - as you prove monotonously on a daily basis with your banal, tedious comments on subjects you know nothing about.
--
Sydney Meriwether
"
Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 4:22pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Grumpy Gordon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
Agreed. [bold]At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts.[/bold] -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic] [/quote] [bold]Cindy,[/bold]
Reporters are [bold]IMPARTIAL[/bold] . [italic]They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry.[/italic]
The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders.
Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough'
Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something??
I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums.
Grumpy.
[/quote] Numpty Gordon in the land of make believe:
"Reporters are impartial"
"Politicians are good"
No doubt you still believe in Santa Claus... as you are so thick maybe you could tell us the name of your doctor "Doon the Clyde", so that we can send requests for an increase in your medication?
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Sydney Meriwether
"[italic]Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic]"
Grumpy Gordon wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Agreed. At every level in this country the greedy, profiteering and invariably incompetent New Labour politicians have proved that they have absolutely NO interest in what the people have to say IF it affects the amount they can pile into their own personal bank accounts. -- Sydney Meriwether Getting up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.
Cindy,
Reporters are IMPARTIAL . They have to be or ther is no point in having an inquiry.
The only people that will make money out of this are Tesco shareholders.
Hence no politicians with theire 'snouts in the trough'
Why are you so interested in the personal finances of politicians - does one of them owe you money or something??
I though you might be pleased about this desicion though, it would mean there is another supermarket for you to raid their bins at night when yuo have ran out of bile to post on these forums.
Grumpy.
Numpty Gordon in the land of make believe:
"Reporters are impartial"
"Politicians are good"
No doubt you still believe in Santa Claus... as you are so thick maybe you could tell us the name of your doctor "Doon the Clyde", so that we can send requests for an increase in your medication?
--
Sydney Meriwether
"
Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 4:24pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]The Real Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Yet another failure of our decrepit city council to manage a sustainable and workable built environment in the city[/bold]... is it any wonder that investment levels in the city are plummeting as companies like Elphinstone, Selfridges and Aviva decide to take their business elsewhere. Like the majority of East End residents... [bold]Glasgow isn't working[/bold]![/quote] GUFF and BLUSTER, as usual.
I see your promise not to post today was an "election promise".
I knew you just couldn't resist seeing your name in print.
Unlike Snydey Meriwether,
I LOVE GLASGOW.[/quote] I told you that your hero-worshiping of me would turn sour eventually... you really will have to try harder to get over it!
--
Sydney Meriwether
"[italic]Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic]"
The Real Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Yet another failure of our decrepit city council to manage a sustainable and workable built environment in the city... is it any wonder that investment levels in the city are plummeting as companies like Elphinstone, Selfridges and Aviva decide to take their business elsewhere. Like the majority of East End residents... Glasgow isn't working!
GUFF and BLUSTER, as usual.
I see your promise not to post today was an "election promise".
I knew you just couldn't resist seeing your name in print.
Unlike Snydey Meriwether,
I LOVE GLASGOW.
I told you that your hero-worshiping of me would turn sour eventually... you really will have to try harder to get over it!
--
Sydney Meriwether
"
Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 4:27pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Snidey Muddywatter[/bold] wrote:
Ah sometimes think Meriwether disnae like like New Labour. Jist a wee inklin' ah get efter some o' his comments know whit ah mean? See me, see insightful......[/quote] Yet another boring hero-worshiper... God save us from this petty banality!
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Sydney Meriwether
"[italic]Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic]"
Snidey Muddywatter wrote:
Ah sometimes think Meriwether disnae like like New Labour. Jist a wee inklin' ah get efter some o' his comments know whit ah mean? See me, see insightful......
Yet another boring hero-worshiper... God save us from this petty banality!
--
Sydney Meriwether
"
Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Ullapool NOT at home on 4:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[bold]That's me for the day... have a nice holiday weekend one and all!!![/bold]
--
Sydney Meriwether
"[italic]Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists.[/italic]"
That's me for the day... have a nice holiday weekend one and all!!!
--
Sydney Meriwether
"
Getting right up the thick, fat snouts of New Labour apologists."
Posted by: Brad on 4:43pm Fri 18 Jul 08
wow, Sydney has really socked it to us!
wow, Sydney has really socked it to us!
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 4:50pm Fri 18 Jul 08
where is Ullapool, did the beatles no come fae there? lol
where is Ullapool, did the beatles no come fae there? lol
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 4:52pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Well I can't wait.
I had to go to that horrible Morrison's today. Yuk! Tatty shop, nothing nice to buy - just pies, bridies, sausage rolls and pasties, long queues of student types, and horrible signs - [italic]"too bad if the queues at checkouts are too long, this counter is just for people to buy fags so sod off and wait your turn"[/italic] or something like that.
Sainsburys is no better - a bit nicer, but high prices, empty shelves, high prices and high prices, plus the constant green nagging.
And Dumbarton Road itself is [italic]already[/italic] like Govan Road - charity shops, "American" nail bars, [italic]Bright House[/italic] rip off shop that sponsors Trisha and charges high prices and 30% APR to povs who can't get credit, tanning salons, private hire car offices and the like. So it can't get any worser.
Well I can't wait.
I had to go to that horrible Morrison's today. Yuk! Tatty shop, nothing nice to buy - just pies, bridies, sausage rolls and pasties, long queues of student types, and horrible signs -
"too bad if the queues at checkouts are too long, this counter is just for people to buy fags so sod off and wait your turn" or something like that.
Sainsburys is no better - a bit nicer, but high prices, empty shelves, high prices and high prices, plus the constant green nagging.
And Dumbarton Road itself is
already like Govan Road - charity shops, "American" nail bars,
Bright House rip off shop that sponsors Trisha and charges high prices and 30% APR to povs who can't get credit, tanning salons, private hire car offices and the like. So it can't get any worser.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 4:56pm Fri 18 Jul 08
is worser a word?
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 4:58pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Yesser it is.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 4:59pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[italic]"There has been better ladies, and there has been worser, Hester," was Miss Horrocks' reply to this compliment of her inferior; so she ruled, having supreme power over all except her father, whom, however, she treated with considerable haughtiness, warning him not to be too familiar in his behaviour to one "as was to be a Baronet's lady.
[/italic]
From [italic]Vanity Fair[/italic] by William Makepeace Thackeray,
"There has been better ladies, and there has been worser, Hester," was Miss Horrocks' reply to this compliment of her inferior; so she ruled, having supreme power over all except her father, whom, however, she treated with considerable haughtiness, warning him not to be too familiar in his behaviour to one "as was to be a Baronet's lady.
From
Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray,
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:01pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[italic]Just think what will be his joy when he, too, is destroyed in his worser part that his better part may have spiritual immortality.[/italic]
FRom [italic]Dracula[/italic] by Bram Stoker
Just think what will be his joy when he, too, is destroyed in his worser part that his better part may have spiritual immortality.
FRom
Dracula by Bram Stoker
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 5:09pm Fri 18 Jul 08
umm er... thanks for diligently researching that- I was was gonnae start to greet and start moaning at Syd, and stuff, but he's gone to Liverpool -near the Highlands. My geography is worser than your wurds.
umm er... thanks for diligently researching that- I was was gonnae start to greet and start moaning at Syd, and stuff, but he's gone to Liverpool -near the Highlands. My geography is worser than your wurds.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:10pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Another thing - Tesco will sell you a telly at a reasonable price. Bright House - check their website - on Dumbarton Road will sell you a 32" telly with Freeview for £598 - you can get it for half that from Tesco. But with 156 weeks credit the actual amount the poor punter will pay is £1324! Obviously someone who can't affored £300 for a telly should not even try to buy a new 32" LCD one but get something second hand for a few quid; but at least Tesco will show people that Bright House are the worst kind of parasites.
But People Power and her like will whinge against Tesco and ignore Bright House!
Another thing - Tesco will sell you a telly at a reasonable price. Bright House - check their website - on Dumbarton Road will sell you a 32" telly with Freeview for £598 - you can get it for half that from Tesco. But with 156 weeks credit the actual amount the poor punter will pay is £1324! Obviously someone who can't affored £300 for a telly should not even try to buy a new 32" LCD one but get something second hand for a few quid; but at least Tesco will show people that Bright House are the worst kind of parasites.
But People Power and her like will whinge against Tesco and ignore Bright House!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:30pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
Another thing - Tesco will sell you a telly at a reasonable price. Bright House - check their website - on Dumbarton Road will sell you a 32" telly with Freeview for £598 - you can get it for half that from Tesco. But with 156 weeks credit the actual amount the poor punter will pay is £1324! Obviously someone who can't affored £300 for a telly should not even try to buy a new 32" LCD one but get something second hand for a few quid; but at least Tesco will show people that Bright House are the worst kind of parasites. But People Power and her like will whinge against Tesco and ignore Bright House![/quote]
Irrespective of what I say or don't say, thankfully this country & these comments pages allow freedom of speech - within the terms of use.
Perhaps you need to read over them & refresh yourself.
I hardly think your free P.R. rants are neceessary, as this is not an advertising board for the likes of Tesco.
And, they have billions to pay for it themselves.
Leave the advertising to Tesco to sort out.
And stick to the issue in hand, please!
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
Another thing - Tesco will sell you a telly at a reasonable price. Bright House - check their website - on Dumbarton Road will sell you a 32" telly with Freeview for £598 - you can get it for half that from Tesco. But with 156 weeks credit the actual amount the poor punter will pay is £1324! Obviously someone who can't affored £300 for a telly should not even try to buy a new 32" LCD one but get something second hand for a few quid; but at least Tesco will show people that Bright House are the worst kind of parasites. But People Power and her like will whinge against Tesco and ignore Bright House!
Irrespective of what I say or don't say, thankfully this country & these comments pages allow freedom of speech - within the terms of use.
Perhaps you need to read over them & refresh yourself.
I hardly think your free P.R. rants are neceessary, as this is not an advertising board for the likes of Tesco.
And, they have billions to pay for it themselves.
Leave the advertising to Tesco to sort out.
And stick to the issue in hand, please!
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:39pm Fri 18 Jul 08
You're not the boss of me, People Power! Who made you queen of the comments colums? If I want to express my views on the horribleness of local shops in Partick, I will do so and won't allow myself to be bullied by the likes of you!
You're not the boss of me, People Power! Who made you queen of the comments colums? If I want to express my views on the horribleness of local shops in Partick, I will do so and won't allow myself to be bullied by the likes of you!
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 5:45pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I have a few inlaws pretty high up in [bold]Bright House[/bold] chain, one is an area manager and so on, I think the idea being is folk on benefits or bad credit rating get to pay things up with no big check ups, obviously it has to make money somehow being some folks only chance, I aint 100% sure as I haven't been in a shop before they appeared to have everything white goods couches etc, must add on a percentage of interest, pay as you go for goods not unlike a catalogue within a showroom, and the shop seems quite successful, as people power says, who are we to advertise ? evening times carries stories but all shops and firms can advertise their wares anywhere, and she is quite entitled to her right to type the truth and freedom of speech , I have always found her posts very intelligent,well thought out, balanced, accurate and fair.
So bright house 32" tellies, or tesco 'to bean or not to cheap bean', tellies or not , if folk are happy to buy, canny accuse the sales teams of being parasitic. They would go bust if there was no customers needing the tick they give!consumers know who cuts the best deals we have google to price check!!
Issue at hand, big new Tesco planned and new housing in Partick!
I have a few inlaws pretty high up in
Bright House chain, one is an area manager and so on, I think the idea being is folk on benefits or bad credit rating get to pay things up with no big check ups, obviously it has to make money somehow being some folks only chance, I aint 100% sure as I haven't been in a shop before they appeared to have everything white goods couches etc, must add on a percentage of interest, pay as you go for goods not unlike a catalogue within a showroom, and the shop seems quite successful, as people power says, who are we to advertise ? evening times carries stories but all shops and firms can advertise their wares anywhere, and she is quite entitled to her right to type the truth and freedom of speech , I have always found her posts very intelligent,well thought out, balanced, accurate and fair.
So bright house 32" tellies, or tesco 'to bean or not to cheap bean', tellies or not , if folk are happy to buy, canny accuse the sales teams of being parasitic. They would go bust if there was no customers needing the tick they give!consumers know who cuts the best deals we have google to price check!!
Issue at hand, big new Tesco planned and new housing in Partick!
Posted by: alexparade, Glasgow on 5:51pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Congratulations to the council for once. Who cares what a few rich west-end nimby's think? Tesco will be good news, meaning cheaper prices for the hard-up punters. Also these new flats sound nice as well..
Congratulations to the council for once. Who cares what a few rich west-end nimby's think? Tesco will be good news, meaning cheaper prices for the hard-up punters. Also these new flats sound nice as well..
Posted by: anam cara, the posh west end! on 5:54pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I don't like Tesco - they're nowhere near the cheapest, their sites are ugly and they're the worst face of capitalist greed. And I don't like grumpies! And as for doctors "Doon the watter", have you seen what Tesco have done in Port Glasgow? You can see it from Helensburgh.
I don't like Tesco - they're nowhere near the cheapest, their sites are ugly and they're the worst face of capitalist greed. And I don't like grumpies! And as for doctors "Doon the watter", have you seen what Tesco have done in Port Glasgow? You can see it from Helensburgh.
Posted by: anam cara, the posh west end! on 5:57pm Fri 18 Jul 08
And what have you all got to say about the Skypark proposals and all those NIMBY folk complaining about that? Think of all the jobs it will bring...
And what have you all got to say about the Skypark proposals and all those NIMBY folk complaining about that? Think of all the jobs it will bring...
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 6:30pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I think the Skypark offices are a good thing too!
I think the Skypark offices are a good thing too!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:46pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]markydc[/bold] wrote:
Why does everyone on here just complain? Seriously, if you don't like the Tesco development then dont shop in Tesco but you can hardly argue against it being a development site. This land before Tesco were interested was brownfield land that was derelict and induced many unsociable problems such as kids running riot, burned out cars etc. There are three main reasons why this will and should go ahead. Firstly, the site was derelict and in our current climate inducing more urban regeneration is a primary aim of planning and social housing is a key aim in Glasgow. Secondly, if tesco were able to demonstrate that traffic from partick and its surroundings travelled extensively to other stores, whih given their resources the probably did, then it beneficial aspects outway its negative environmental aspects. Also, as mentionioned an EIA will be carried out and if this is acceptable, I work in this field and it most probably is subject to many planning conditions, then the site will be released. Thirdly, Glasgow is not a nice city and any modern developments will improve the city and although everyone and their dog hates tesco it must be stated that Tesco do introduce many socio-economic benefits to an area. Moroever, people who complain about modern developments in your beloved 'west end' not so long ago everyone complained about similar developmenst. Nobody wants these developments in their area but you all want food and clothing so somewhere it has to be provided. Also, modern housing and mixed use developmenst are socially, environmentally and economically efficent so please dont complain that planners and companys are taking advantage as they are just improving a city that is already a mish mash of terrible architecture and years of planning disasters.[/quote]
Mark ydc,
if you cannot see why so many people complain about such a multi-national giant killing another community then you are clearly blinkered.
What your job entails means you must consider the environmental impact far more than any council concerns. There is also the potential for requested emissions of any recommendations you make out of convenience for G.C.C. Nothing would surprise me if this was happening.
Lets just say this whole saga will be viewed upon as a travesty of justice if Tesco actually gets its way.
Also, the failure of Glasgow city councillors yet again to see objections to this planning application has been a disgrace.
There are plenty other sites where the need for such a store could be considered.
But, the greed and competetive nature of Tesco, simply wishing to outstrip its competitors already in Partick is clear:
Supermarkets / Stores within a half mile radius of this Tesco store include:
1. Somerfield, Byres Road.
2. Iceland, Byres Road,
3. Farmfoods, Byres Road.
4. Morrisons, Partick.
5. Sainsburys, Partick.
6. Marks & Spencer Food store, Partick.
and, 7. All other local grocer type shops along Byres and Dumbarton Road, Partick.
This reason may not be grounds as a planning objection, which is very unfortunate, but surely the need for YET ANOTHER store within Partick is wholly unneccessary.
This Tesco will be the death of Partick, commercially, as well as the long term health implications:
Corporate businesses continually get their way, due to the gains from taxation and other spins offs for the Council - with residents, and the communities all potentially trampled on.
Also, as previously stated by another poster back in May: [italic]"Air pollution causes premature death, lung disease and heart disease, and poor lung development in children, as well as exacerbating asthma."[/italic]
With the Western Infirmaries A & E earmarked for closure - the danger of so many extra cars on the roads is bound to see far more accidents - let alone pollution.
E.I.A. or no E.I.A. the facts speak for themselves. As for the term [bold]"Impartiality"[/bold] just how many officials who carry out such assessments, or Public Enquiries are even able to be [bold]"Impartial"[/bold] when so many millions of pounds are at stake, and brown envelopes are allegedly rife.
Glagow may have been the City Of Culture in the Past, but the way things are going and the absolute eye - sores we are seeing going up, and still being given planning permission the word "Culture" need no longer apply.
markydc wrote:
Why does everyone on here just complain? Seriously, if you don't like the Tesco development then dont shop in Tesco but you can hardly argue against it being a development site. This land before Tesco were interested was brownfield land that was derelict and induced many unsociable problems such as kids running riot, burned out cars etc. There are three main reasons why this will and should go ahead. Firstly, the site was derelict and in our current climate inducing more urban regeneration is a primary aim of planning and social housing is a key aim in Glasgow. Secondly, if tesco were able to demonstrate that traffic from partick and its surroundings travelled extensively to other stores, whih given their resources the probably did, then it beneficial aspects outway its negative environmental aspects. Also, as mentionioned an EIA will be carried out and if this is acceptable, I work in this field and it most probably is subject to many planning conditions, then the site will be released. Thirdly, Glasgow is not a nice city and any modern developments will improve the city and although everyone and their dog hates tesco it must be stated that Tesco do introduce many socio-economic benefits to an area. Moroever, people who complain about modern developments in your beloved 'west end' not so long ago everyone complained about similar developmenst. Nobody wants these developments in their area but you all want food and clothing so somewhere it has to be provided. Also, modern housing and mixed use developmenst are socially, environmentally and economically efficent so please dont complain that planners and companys are taking advantage as they are just improving a city that is already a mish mash of terrible architecture and years of planning disasters.
Mark ydc,
if you cannot see why so many people complain about such a multi-national giant killing another community then you are clearly blinkered.
What your job entails means you must consider the environmental impact far more than any council concerns. There is also the potential for requested emissions of any recommendations you make out of convenience for G.C.C. Nothing would surprise me if this was happening.
Lets just say this whole saga will be viewed upon as a travesty of justice if Tesco actually gets its way.
Also, the failure of Glasgow city councillors yet again to see objections to this planning application has been a disgrace.
There are plenty other sites where the need for such a store could be considered.
But, the greed and competetive nature of Tesco, simply wishing to outstrip its competitors already in Partick is clear:
Supermarkets / Stores within a half mile radius of this Tesco store include:
1. Somerfield, Byres Road.
2. Iceland, Byres Road,
3. Farmfoods, Byres Road.
4. Morrisons, Partick.
5. Sainsburys, Partick.
6. Marks & Spencer Food store, Partick.
and, 7. All other local grocer type shops along Byres and Dumbarton Road, Partick.
This reason may not be grounds as a planning objection, which is very unfortunate, but surely the need for YET ANOTHER store within Partick is wholly unneccessary.
This Tesco will be the death of Partick, commercially, as well as the long term health implications:
Corporate businesses continually get their way, due to the gains from taxation and other spins offs for the Council - with residents, and the communities all potentially trampled on.
Also, as previously stated by another poster back in May:
"Air pollution causes premature death, lung disease and heart disease, and poor lung development in children, as well as exacerbating asthma."
With the Western Infirmaries A & E earmarked for closure - the danger of so many extra cars on the roads is bound to see far more accidents - let alone pollution.
E.I.A. or no E.I.A. the facts speak for themselves. As for the term
"Impartiality" just how many officials who carry out such assessments, or Public Enquiries are even able to be
"Impartial" when so many millions of pounds are at stake, and brown envelopes are allegedly rife.
Glagow may have been the City Of Culture in the Past, but the way things are going and the absolute eye - sores we are seeing going up, and still being given planning permission the word "Culture" need no longer apply.
Posted by: hugo, south side on 6:47pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
Well I can't wait.
I had to go to that horrible Morrison's today. Yuk! Tatty shop, nothing nice to buy - just pies, bridies, sausage rolls and pasties, long queues of student types, and horrible signs - [italic]"too bad if the queues at checkouts are too long, this counter is just for people to buy fags so sod off and wait your turn"[/italic] or something like that.
Sainsburys is no better - a bit nicer, but high prices, empty shelves, high prices and high prices, plus the constant green nagging.
And Dumbarton Road itself is [italic]already[/italic] like Govan Road - charity shops, "American" nail bars, [italic]Bright House[/italic] rip off shop that sponsors Trisha and charges high prices and 30% APR to povs who can't get credit, tanning salons, private hire car offices and the like. So it can't get any worser. [/quote] Well jonny, you might be able to recite fine words, however your own show an alarming lack of understanding of the issue.
Your first para, makes reference to 'student types' in a negative connotation. Why then would you be supporting a proposal which brings another 900 to a small concentrated area ??.
As for your third para which states that 'it cant get any worse', well it can, all those shops on dumbaron rd will be empty !!, which is considerably worse, no !!
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
Well I can't wait.
I had to go to that horrible Morrison's today. Yuk! Tatty shop, nothing nice to buy - just pies, bridies, sausage rolls and pasties, long queues of student types, and horrible signs - "too bad if the queues at checkouts are too long, this counter is just for people to buy fags so sod off and wait your turn" or something like that.
Sainsburys is no better - a bit nicer, but high prices, empty shelves, high prices and high prices, plus the constant green nagging.
And Dumbarton Road itself is already like Govan Road - charity shops, "American" nail bars, Bright House rip off shop that sponsors Trisha and charges high prices and 30% APR to povs who can't get credit, tanning salons, private hire car offices and the like. So it can't get any worser.
Well jonny, you might be able to recite fine words, however your own show an alarming lack of understanding of the issue.
Your first para, makes reference to 'student types' in a negative connotation. Why then would you be supporting a proposal which brings another 900 to a small concentrated area ??.
As for your third para which states that 'it cant get any worse', well it can, all those shops on dumbaron rd will be empty !!, which is considerably worse, no !!
Posted by: Frank, Glasgow on 6:57pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Well done Glasgow Labour for standing up to the small minded moaners who want no change. It is courageous decisions which show why Labour is the only party fit to govern.
Well done Glasgow Labour for standing up to the small minded moaners who want no change. It is courageous decisions which show why Labour is the only party fit to govern.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 7:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
You're not the boss of me, People Power! Who made you queen of the comments colums? If I want to express my views on the horribleness of local shops in Partick, I will do so and won't allow myself to be bullied by the likes of you![/quote]
Don't let me stop you from your ineffective, objectionable wind ups, and deliberate contradictions of posts.
After all Tesco have folk in far higher places than you doing a job to promote themselves commercially.
If you want to advertise them like some kind of Tesco muppet don't let me stop you.
At least now I know how little you care for local community shops, thats right support the multi-national supermarkets over local stores.
Multi-nationals like Tesco, who suck all the profits up & give them to their shareholders.
Multi-nationals like Tesco, who continue their mass buying up of plots of land, that remain derelict for years.
Multi-nationals like Tesco, who rarely pass on their profits to the employees who keep their stores running.
Tesco again demonstrating they just want to have their cake and eat it, or should that be [italic]"grab our cash and beat it!"[/italic]
[bold]TESCO - "Every Little Hurts!"[/bold]
See: http://www.tescopoly
.org/
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
You're not the boss of me, People Power! Who made you queen of the comments colums? If I want to express my views on the horribleness of local shops in Partick, I will do so and won't allow myself to be bullied by the likes of you!
Don't let me stop you from your ineffective, objectionable wind ups, and deliberate contradictions of posts.
After all Tesco have folk in far higher places than you doing a job to promote themselves commercially.
If you want to advertise them like some kind of Tesco muppet don't let me stop you.
At least now I know how little you care for local community shops, thats right support the multi-national supermarkets over local stores.
Multi-nationals like Tesco, who suck all the profits up & give them to their shareholders.
Multi-nationals like Tesco, who continue their mass buying up of plots of land, that remain derelict for years.
Multi-nationals like Tesco, who rarely pass on their profits to the employees who keep their stores running.
Tesco again demonstrating they just want to have their cake and eat it, or should that be
"grab our cash and beat it!"
TESCO - "Every Little Hurts!"
See: http://www.tescopoly
.org/
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 7:40pm Fri 18 Jul 08
lmao go pp girl, take it you had your 'non Tesco branded wheat bisks' today ;-)
Indeed, I like your new motto for Tesco, I always found their shops really stock bilge. There are massive Tesco Extra stores popping up everywhere ye look, the st rollox, the silverburn, they do seem to own the monopoly on 24 hr places, but asda stuff is cheaper but better quality!
so ha stick that up yer jumpers tesco. To many big shops kicking about. Tesco 'Extras' now ,not even regular wee shops.
Who shops week in week out at Tesco then? and who in Partick if it opens, will go to it?
lmao go pp girl, take it you had your 'non Tesco branded wheat bisks' today ;-)
Indeed, I like your new motto for Tesco, I always found their shops really stock bilge. There are massive Tesco Extra stores popping up everywhere ye look, the st rollox, the silverburn, they do seem to own the monopoly on 24 hr places, but asda stuff is cheaper but better quality!
so ha stick that up yer jumpers tesco. To many big shops kicking about. Tesco 'Extras' now ,not even regular wee shops.
Who shops week in week out at Tesco then? and who in Partick if it opens, will go to it?
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 7:57pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]hugo, south side[/bold] wrote:
Your first para, makes reference to 'student types' in a negative connotation. Why then would you be supporting a proposal which brings another 900 to a small concentrated area ??.[/quote] The students are there anyway, it's just they'll have somewhere nicer to live. Which is maybe bad news for buy-to-let landlords, but good news for the rest of us. I don't really mind students but they do look annoying with their horrible haircuts and stupid rucksacks. Anyway, if there's a lovely big Tesco there will be more normal people and so the students will be diluted.
hugo, south side wrote:
Your first para, makes reference to 'student types' in a negative connotation. Why then would you be supporting a proposal which brings another 900 to a small concentrated area ??.
The students are there anyway, it's just they'll have somewhere nicer to live. Which is maybe bad news for buy-to-let landlords, but good news for the rest of us. I don't really mind students but they do look annoying with their horrible haircuts and stupid rucksacks. Anyway, if there's a lovely big Tesco there will be more normal people and so the students will be diluted.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:04pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Cheers, Edna,
But not my motto - the motto of [bold]Tescopoly[/bold] a great website for all the info on Tesco applications accross the UK.
And, like a number of stores Tesco is just one which I boycott & do not shop in at all out of principle.
A problem with people of today - in that they seem to be running short of, or completely lacking in any principles or morals.
* Boycott the multi-nationals.
* Support fairtrade.
* Buy Locally.
* Buy UK - Scottish made products wherever possible.
......and thats just a flavour.
Everywhere you look, all around it's the giant Tescos, ASDA's and Shopping Centres of this world which are:
killing communities
killing communication between the public & customers
killing local traders livelyhoods
killing diversity of shops in local communities
and
They are seeing the increase of charity shops, bookies, estate agents, tanning parlours, pound shops & a real drop in quality & variety generally.
Finally, in answer to your last question:
[quote]Who shops week in week out at Tesco then? and who in Partick if it opens, will go to it?[/quote]
If Tesco's idea of what local means is to be believed, then those within a 30 minute journey of the store.
And, 30 minutes from Partick in any direction can take you at least 5 - 10 miles away or more.
Hardly supporting the local economy then is it.
More like those from everywhere but Partick.
Cheers, Edna,
But not my motto - the motto of
Tescopoly a great website for all the info on Tesco applications accross the UK.
And, like a number of stores Tesco is just one which I boycott & do not shop in at all out of principle.
A problem with people of today - in that they seem to be running short of, or completely lacking in any principles or morals.
* Boycott the multi-nationals.
* Support fairtrade.
* Buy Locally.
* Buy UK - Scottish made products wherever possible.
......and thats just a flavour.
Everywhere you look, all around it's the giant Tescos, ASDA's and Shopping Centres of this world which are:
killing communities
killing communication between the public & customers
killing local traders livelyhoods
killing diversity of shops in local communities
and
They are seeing the increase of charity shops, bookies, estate agents, tanning parlours, pound shops & a real drop in quality & variety generally.
Finally, in answer to your last question:
Who shops week in week out at Tesco then? and who in Partick if it opens, will go to it?
If Tesco's idea of what local means is to be believed, then those within a 30 minute journey of the store.
And, 30 minutes from Partick in any direction can take you at least 5 - 10 miles away or more.
Hardly supporting the local economy then is it.
More like those from everywhere but Partick.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 8:06pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
Don't let me stop you from your ineffective, objectionable wind ups, and deliberate contradictions of posts.[/quote] I won't, thanks.
[quote]At least now I know how little you care for local community shops, thats right support the multi-national supermarkets over local stores.[/quote]
Bright House, the American Nail Bar, two hundred charity shops, and the rest - are NOT "local community shops".
I remember Hoeys', and Birss', and Mac Fisheries, and Malcolm Campbell's, and the other fish shop, and the grain store, and the wee fruiterers, and Lawrence of Partick, and the wood shop under the stairs to the station, and all the other "local community shops". They have all gone and been replaced by the rubbish we have now. Even Morrison's is just Galbraith's tarted up.
Tesco is going to be better than what we have now.
People Power wrote:
Don't let me stop you from your ineffective, objectionable wind ups, and deliberate contradictions of posts.
I won't, thanks.
At least now I know how little you care for local community shops, thats right support the multi-national supermarkets over local stores.
Bright House, the American Nail Bar, two hundred charity shops, and the rest - are NOT "local community shops".
I remember Hoeys', and Birss', and Mac Fisheries, and Malcolm Campbell's, and the other fish shop, and the grain store, and the wee fruiterers, and Lawrence of Partick, and the wood shop under the stairs to the station, and all the other "local community shops". They have all gone and been replaced by the rubbish we have now. Even Morrison's is just Galbraith's tarted up.
Tesco is going to be better than what we have now.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 8:09pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote]They are seeing the increase of charity shops, bookies, estate agents, tanning parlours, pound shops & a real drop in quality & variety generally.[/quote] Those were there already in Partick. Tesco coming didn't make that happen. Unless they had a special super korprit time machine.
They are seeing the increase of charity shops, bookies, estate agents, tanning parlours, pound shops & a real drop in quality & variety generally.
Those were there already in Partick. Tesco coming didn't make that happen. Unless they had a special super korprit time machine.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 8:18pm Fri 18 Jul 08
funny how we all use aliases ...I often lie awake at night wondering where you lovely citizen all reside and wonder if you live alone, or what is your family set-ups, occupations, real names, and if you are happy and warm and loved safe and healthy ((sigh))...I also wonder if you have enough food supplies ,gas, leccie, petrol...or will need to pop out at 4am to Tesco Extra for milk in your tea, as you have insomnia...
ok well this is partly true I often wonder whose behind the posts. [italic]But it sounded more melodramatic the way I wrote that sad stuff lol[/italic]
funny how we all use aliases ...I often lie awake at night wondering where you lovely citizen all reside and wonder if you live alone, or what is your family set-ups, occupations, real names, and if you are happy and warm and loved safe and healthy ((sigh))...I also wonder if you have enough food supplies ,gas, leccie, petrol...or will need to pop out at 4am to Tesco Extra for milk in your tea, as you have insomnia...
ok well this is partly true I often wonder whose behind the posts.
But it sounded more melodramatic the way I wrote that sad stuff lol Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 8:21pm Fri 18 Jul 08
oh look, I am post no.90 yippee
[bold]is 90 responses now a record for comments?[/bold]
oh look, I am post no.90 yippee
is 90 responses now a record for comments? Posted by: Brad on 8:54pm Fri 18 Jul 08
well, if so, then so's 91!
well, if so, then so's 91!
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 8:58pm Fri 18 Jul 08
na na no.92 pity your best pal syds away wi the butler walkin his dugs in the north he could have been poster no.93!
na na no.92 pity your best pal syds away wi the butler walkin his dugs in the north he could have been poster no.93!
Posted by: Brad on 9:02pm Fri 18 Jul 08
please no...
Posted by: People Power on 9:45pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote: Don't let me stop you from your ineffective, objectionable wind ups, and deliberate contradictions of posts.[/quote] I won't, thanks. [quote]At least now I know how little you care for local community shops, thats right support the multi-national supermarkets over local stores.[/quote] Bright House, the American Nail Bar, two hundred charity shops, and the rest - are NOT "local community shops". I remember Hoeys', and Birss', and Mac Fisheries, and Malcolm Campbell's, and the other fish shop, and the grain store, and the wee fruiterers, and Lawrence of Partick, and the wood shop under the stairs to the station, and all the other "local community shops". They have all gone and been replaced by the rubbish we have now. Even Morrison's is just Galbraith's tarted up. Tesco is going to be better than what we have now. [/quote]
I would say that these stores have all been forced out over a period of time for a range of reasons.
But, larger, cheaper supermarkets, and chains hardly help encourage people to stay loyal to their local shops.
I also remember Hoeys, McKinnons Fisheries, Howard Bedding, Barton's gift shop, Stevenson's Flowers, Edwards, and many more.....
Yes, times have moved on, the economic climate is far more unstable, dispensable income is not as readily available, and people are being forced to reign in their finances.....
However, all things considered,
The addition of a Tesco cannot possibly improve or secure the livelyhoods of the existing stores on Dumbarton Road.....
It will only succeed in killing them off,
by undercutting their prices, and offering potentially reduced quality in its clothing, allegedly made in, for all we know "sweat shops in India."
So, lets not fool ourselves that Tesco will improve Partick, and it's surroundings.
(Or Maryhill for that matter, when it takes over the shopping centre there!)
Look at examples elsewhere, Supermarket Giants badly located kill local high streets, and the atmosphere, community feeling, and diversity of their shops: FACT!
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
People Power wrote: Don't let me stop you from your ineffective, objectionable wind ups, and deliberate contradictions of posts.
I won't, thanks. At least now I know how little you care for local community shops, thats right support the multi-national supermarkets over local stores.
Bright House, the American Nail Bar, two hundred charity shops, and the rest - are NOT "local community shops". I remember Hoeys', and Birss', and Mac Fisheries, and Malcolm Campbell's, and the other fish shop, and the grain store, and the wee fruiterers, and Lawrence of Partick, and the wood shop under the stairs to the station, and all the other "local community shops". They have all gone and been replaced by the rubbish we have now. Even Morrison's is just Galbraith's tarted up. Tesco is going to be better than what we have now.
I would say that these stores have all been forced out over a period of time for a range of reasons.
But, larger, cheaper supermarkets, and chains hardly help encourage people to stay loyal to their local shops.
I also remember Hoeys, McKinnons Fisheries, Howard Bedding, Barton's gift shop, Stevenson's Flowers, Edwards, and many more.....
Yes, times have moved on, the economic climate is far more unstable, dispensable income is not as readily available, and people are being forced to reign in their finances.....
However, all things considered,
The addition of a Tesco cannot possibly improve or secure the livelyhoods of the existing stores on Dumbarton Road.....
It will only succeed in killing them off,
by undercutting their prices, and offering potentially reduced quality in its clothing, allegedly made in, for all we know "sweat shops in India."
So, lets not fool ourselves that Tesco will improve Partick, and it's surroundings.
(Or Maryhill for that matter, when it takes over the shopping centre there!)
Look at examples elsewhere, Supermarket Giants badly located kill local high streets, and the atmosphere, community feeling, and diversity of their shops: FACT!
Posted by: drunkenmonkey, Glasgow on 10:02pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Fantastic news! :D I'll be looking forward to shopping there when it opens, might even give me a chance to visit the local shops since I will be in the area. I can't see any issue with Tesco, can't any company in the UK be successful?
Fantastic news! :D I'll be looking forward to shopping there when it opens, might even give me a chance to visit the local shops since I will be in the area. I can't see any issue with Tesco, can't any company in the UK be successful?
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:22pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]drunkenmonkey[/bold] wrote:
Fantastic news! :D I'll be looking forward to shopping there when it opens, might even give me a chance to visit the local shops since I will be in the area. I can't see any issue with Tesco, can't any company in the UK be successful?[/quote]
[bold]* TROLL ALERT * LABOURITE ALERT * WIND UP ALERT *[/bold]
[bold]1.[/bold] Take your blinkers off
[bold]2.[/bold] Visit www.tescopoly.org
[bold]3.[/bold] Don't count your chickens......
(who says Tesco will even keep the land & build there ? Nothing is DEFINATE!)
[bold]4.[/bold] Watch how the local traders are killed off 1 by 1 as Tesco bites. Billionaire Multi-national versus small local traders, hardly fair competition is it.
[bold]5.[/bold] If Tesco genuinely cared about its workers, the effects - impact it had on the local community, or its policies surrounding excess packaging, food wasteage etc fine....
[bold]BUT THE HARD FACED ARROGANCE OF COMPANIES LIKE TESCO HAVE ENSURED THEIR SUCCESS, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE DIVERSITY OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES THEY DESTROY.[/bold]
drunkenmonkey wrote:
Fantastic news! :D I'll be looking forward to shopping there when it opens, might even give me a chance to visit the local shops since I will be in the area. I can't see any issue with Tesco, can't any company in the UK be successful?
* TROLL ALERT * LABOURITE ALERT * WIND UP ALERT *
1. Take your blinkers off
2. Visit www.tescopoly.org
3. Don't count your chickens......
(who says Tesco will even keep the land & build there ? Nothing is DEFINATE!)
4. Watch how the local traders are killed off 1 by 1 as Tesco bites. Billionaire Multi-national versus small local traders, hardly fair competition is it.
5. If Tesco genuinely cared about its workers, the effects - impact it had on the local community, or its policies surrounding excess packaging, food wasteage etc fine....
BUT THE HARD FACED ARROGANCE OF COMPANIES LIKE TESCO HAVE ENSURED THEIR SUCCESS, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE DIVERSITY OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES THEY DESTROY.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 11:25pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]drunkenmonkey[/bold] wrote:
Fantastic news! :D I'll be looking forward to shopping there when it opens, might even give me a chance to visit the local shops since I will be in the area. I can't see any issue with Tesco, can't any company in the UK be successful?[/quote] That is a good point about visiting local shops while you're in the area. Especially if some of the dud local shops close and better ones come in their place.
People power seems to have got a wee bit overemotional allegedly for all we know with the shouting and ranting. She has now accused Tesco and other supermarkets of employing child slaves allegedly for all we know and suggesting that if we don't buy our clothes from the local clothes shops we're allegedly for all we know indulging in the same thing ourselves allegedly for all we know. Except there haven't been any local clothes shops in Partick for ages, but that's somehow Tesco's fault too allegedly for all we know. She's got something against the Labour Party too allegedly for all we know.
It's a shame. She's drunk as a skunk, allegedly for all we know.
drunkenmonkey wrote:
Fantastic news! :D I'll be looking forward to shopping there when it opens, might even give me a chance to visit the local shops since I will be in the area. I can't see any issue with Tesco, can't any company in the UK be successful?
That is a good point about visiting local shops while you're in the area. Especially if some of the dud local shops close and better ones come in their place.
People power seems to have got a wee bit overemotional allegedly for all we know with the shouting and ranting. She has now accused Tesco and other supermarkets of employing child slaves allegedly for all we know and suggesting that if we don't buy our clothes from the local clothes shops we're allegedly for all we know indulging in the same thing ourselves allegedly for all we know. Except there haven't been any local clothes shops in Partick for ages, but that's somehow Tesco's fault too allegedly for all we know. She's got something against the Labour Party too allegedly for all we know.
It's a shame. She's drunk as a skunk, allegedly for all we know.
Posted by: ahmed yellaf, partick on 11:38am Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote]Supermarkets / Stores within a half mile radius of this Tesco store include:
1. Somerfield, Byres Road.
2. Iceland, Byres Road,
3. Farmfoods, Byres Road.
4. Morrisons, Partick.
5. Sainsburys, Partick.
6. Marks & Spencer Food store, Partick.[/quote]
i dident relise that farmfoods was a supermarkkit. shop at Ahmeds pound shop we sell everythings to make life betar.have cigeretes and 10 lieters for £2 in sale thiss weke welltesco canot beet my shop prices
Supermarkets / Stores within a half mile radius of this Tesco store include:
1. Somerfield, Byres Road.
2. Iceland, Byres Road,
3. Farmfoods, Byres Road.
4. Morrisons, Partick.
5. Sainsburys, Partick.
6. Marks & Spencer Food store, Partick.
i dident relise that farmfoods was a supermarkkit. shop at Ahmeds pound shop we sell everythings to make life betar.have cigeretes and 10 lieters for £2 in sale thiss weke welltesco canot beet my shop prices
Posted by: ahmed yellaf, pollokshields on 12:05pm Sat 19 Jul 08
i red a coment abot drunk munkey an i thot thaaat is was not right to giv anemals alciholl.maybees i enjoi go shop at new fancie Tecso but i no liek minse,
i red a coment abot drunk munkey an i thot thaaat is was not right to giv anemals alciholl.maybees i enjoi go shop at new fancie Tecso but i no liek minse,
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 12:29pm Sat 19 Jul 08
All supermarkets are evil ...
They are all part of a grand plan ...
The next generation will be denied the choice of going to the butchers,bakers,gree
ngrocers and local corner shop as small businesses cant compete ...
Then we have no options anymore but to shop in these places and eat their overpriced rubbish ...
All supermarkets are evil ...
They are all part of a grand plan ...
The next generation will be denied the choice of going to the butchers,bakers,gree
ngrocers and local corner shop as small businesses cant compete ...
Then we have no options anymore but to shop in these places and eat their overpriced rubbish ...
Posted by: murdo, partick on 12:19am Sun 20 Jul 08
Can't the people see the con thats been done. Hold an enquiry, misinform reporter, make behind cover deals, sell GCC land to Glasgow Harbour, then after red herring application fails, Glasgow Harbour sells ex GCC land to Tesco after they get the go ahead, Glasgow Harbour gets permission to build their supermarket from GCC. Who profits from it?
Can't the people see the con thats been done. Hold an enquiry, misinform reporter, make behind cover deals, sell GCC land to Glasgow Harbour, then after red herring application fails, Glasgow Harbour sells ex GCC land to Tesco after they get the go ahead, Glasgow Harbour gets permission to build their supermarket from GCC. Who profits from it?
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 7:46am Sun 20 Jul 08
Those evil korprit corprations profit from it, Murdo. S'shockin, so it is. Allegedly for all we know they're up to all sorts. People power wil tell you more.
Those evil korprit corprations profit from it, Murdo. S'shockin, so it is. Allegedly for all we know they're up to all sorts. People power wil tell you more.
Posted by: Polly Bag, Glasgow on 11:44am Sun 20 Jul 08
Just proves again, there isn't one 'normal' person in the west end.Just all a bunch of dope smoking hippies that don't eat meat ,shop at charity shosp for clothes, and have vegeburger shops on every corner and don't like the idea of technology ,tv's or the 21st century shops or new housing or JOBS that are coming that way. All the non-Glaswegians who go to Uni and drink in trendy pubs all day need to get off their pedal bikes and get a grip. The Westend is nowt but a freakshow walking up any street in Partick and see the scary looking fashion victims all accents going except Glasgow, supporting non-dairy quorn and tofu rights and soyabean farmers, and enjoying fighting with people on websites. Must have no life is they just want to rant and rave about a shop regenerating the area. [italic]Weirdos R Us![/italic]
Just proves again, there isn't one 'normal' person in the west end.Just all a bunch of dope smoking hippies that don't eat meat ,shop at charity shosp for clothes, and have vegeburger shops on every corner and don't like the idea of technology ,tv's or the 21st century shops or new housing or JOBS that are coming that way. All the non-Glaswegians who go to Uni and drink in trendy pubs all day need to get off their pedal bikes and get a grip. The Westend is nowt but a freakshow walking up any street in Partick and see the scary looking fashion victims all accents going except Glasgow, supporting non-dairy quorn and tofu rights and soyabean farmers, and enjoying fighting with people on websites. Must have no life is they just want to rant and rave about a shop regenerating the area.
Weirdos R Us! Posted by: Polly Bag, Tesco checkout on 12:41pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote]"This decision is unbelievable and I am in total shock."[/quote]
a shop plans are approved over reaction or what , one vegeburger too many been consumed by these numpties!
"This decision is unbelievable and I am in total shock."
a shop plans are approved over reaction or what , one vegeburger too many been consumed by these numpties!
Posted by: Polly Bag, Govan on 12:43pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote]A statement said: "The proposed development will help to retain shoppers in Partick, benefiting the area and boosting the local economy. The new Tesco store would also create around 400 new full and part-time jobs."[/quote]
I agree with that statement.
A statement said: "The proposed development will help to retain shoppers in Partick, benefiting the area and boosting the local economy. The new Tesco store would also create around 400 new full and part-time jobs."
I agree with that statement.
Posted by: glasgowharbour21, glasgow on 3:59pm Sun 20 Jul 08
More flats at Glasgow Harbour...We need more flats at the Harbour like we need a hole in the head! They cant even sell all the flats that are currently built/being built here and now they have given tesco the go ahead for more!!..
If anyoneeee!!!! was to ask the community here they would realise, more flats are NOT what we want. So if any Harbour planning officials read this I urge you to listen.. Use the land you have bought to give Partick and the Harbour shops and restaurants that will attract tourists and other 'weegies' down to the water for the right reasons!
Give 'the little guy' a chance to open shops/delis/boutique
s/restaurants etc at the Harbour Not a TESCO town!
If the 'Students' want flats..H2O are offering great deals on leases...dont just build more for the sake of it! and has anyone thought about what will happen to the little morrisons at partick station!
....and re-search can say what it likes..Yes sometimes we drive to govan for 'major' shopping but on the whole - I do my weekly shop at sainsburys/marksnspa
rks and local deli's...we do not need a huge supermarket.........
That is not what the west end is about..
More flats at Glasgow Harbour...We need more flats at the Harbour like we need a hole in the head! They cant even sell all the flats that are currently built/being built here and now they have given tesco the go ahead for more!!..
If anyoneeee!!!! was to ask the community here they would realise, more flats are NOT what we want. So if any Harbour planning officials read this I urge you to listen.. Use the land you have bought to give Partick and the Harbour shops and restaurants that will attract tourists and other 'weegies' down to the water for the right reasons!
Give 'the little guy' a chance to open shops/delis/boutique
s/restaurants etc at the Harbour Not a TESCO town!
If the 'Students' want flats..H2O are offering great deals on leases...dont just build more for the sake of it! and has anyone thought about what will happen to the little morrisons at partick station!
....and re-search can say what it likes..Yes sometimes we drive to govan for 'major' shopping but on the whole - I do my weekly shop at sainsburys/marksnspa
rks and local deli's...we do not need a huge supermarket.........
That is not what the west end is about..
Posted by: Polly Bag, Glasgow on 4:45pm Sun 20 Jul 08
bunch of Westend weirdos, [bold]good luck Tesco[/bold] ,hope that this will get rid of the moaning politics and more anti labourite banal pointless nimby typists who log on..................
....................
FULL of their expensive red wine ,with red luminous lips and rosy cheeks glowing into their PC screens late at night, pontificating about 'consumer rights to shop in Malcomn Campbells'
( which disappeared about 1979, showing their age)
CRETINS that are all rich and can just flit if they don't like it, back to their birth right =Govan's wine alley, and hope Tesco build a few stores on top of them unawares when they nip to The 3 Judges for a quick top up of red poison, and rnat about where they can build their soyabean mince factories.
bunch of Westend weirdos,
good luck Tesco ,hope that this will get rid of the moaning politics and more anti labourite banal pointless nimby typists who log on..................
....................
FULL of their expensive red wine ,with red luminous lips and rosy cheeks glowing into their PC screens late at night, pontificating about 'consumer rights to shop in Malcomn Campbells'
( which disappeared about 1979, showing their age)
CRETINS that are all rich and can just flit if they don't like it, back to their birth right =Govan's wine alley, and hope Tesco build a few stores on top of them unawares when they nip to The 3 Judges for a quick top up of red poison, and rnat about where they can build their soyabean mince factories.
Posted by: Frank, Glasgow on 5:30pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Polly Bag[/bold] wrote:
bunch of Westend weirdos, [bold]good luck Tesco[/bold] ,hope that this will get rid of the moaning politics and more anti labourite banal pointless nimby typists who log on..................
....................
FULL of their expensive red wine ,with red luminous lips and rosy cheeks glowing into their PC screens late at night, pontificating about 'consumer rights to shop in Malcomn Campbells'
( which disappeared about 1979, showing their age)
CRETINS that are all rich and can just flit if they don't like it, back to their birth right =Govan's wine alley, and hope Tesco build a few stores on top of them unawares when they nip to The 3 Judges for a quick top up of red poison, and rnat about where they can build their soyabean mince factories.[/quote] Quite agree. Labour has stood up to these bullies as usual protecting the common man.
Polly Bag wrote:
bunch of Westend weirdos, good luck Tesco ,hope that this will get rid of the moaning politics and more anti labourite banal pointless nimby typists who log on..................
....................
FULL of their expensive red wine ,with red luminous lips and rosy cheeks glowing into their PC screens late at night, pontificating about 'consumer rights to shop in Malcomn Campbells'
( which disappeared about 1979, showing their age)
CRETINS that are all rich and can just flit if they don't like it, back to their birth right =Govan's wine alley, and hope Tesco build a few stores on top of them unawares when they nip to The 3 Judges for a quick top up of red poison, and rnat about where they can build their soyabean mince factories.
Quite agree. Labour has stood up to these bullies as usual protecting the common man.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:48pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]roor06[/bold] wrote:
All supermarkets are evil ... They are all part of a grand plan ... The next generation will be denied the choice of going to the butchers,bakers,gree ngrocers and local corner shop as small businesses cant compete ... Then we have no options anymore but to shop in these places and eat their overpriced rubbish ... [/quote]
Assuming your serious not sarcastic here the point you make is very true. It's just sad so may of us are sucked in to supermarkets so naively ( including myself on occassions - but NOT TESCO - NOT EVER!)
Convenience, cheaper goods, all under one roof, ease of parking, and special offers.
The list of enticers is endless, just sad we drop our principles so easily, and forget the local economy, shops, businesses, and even Farmers Market all need our trade too.
[bold]If we do not use them, we lose them! Simple as that.[/bold]
When stores like Tesco are making such disgusting profits maybe we should all be buying shares in them, alternatively maybe they ought to re - invest some of their profits to ensure the communities they destroy do not suffer.
(Suggestions on a postcard....)
Whatever way we look at it until we see alot more of what goes on behind the scenes in supermarkets, how much food goes to waste - straight into the bins - (Whether Health & safety dictate or not!) we will continue to support the disgusting over-provision of our greed.
Perhaps its time for us to stop, and re - assess our priorities, and while we throw food away so freely & easily, so many others in the world are starving to death, or dying from malnutritian.
Surely we should be getting more of a balance, and stop the food wasteage through our disgusting multi-national giant supermarkets.
Communities have enough issues and problems to contend with, Partick is no different.
The other worry is if this Tesco is granted a 24 hour licence to trade its ability to sell alcohol at potential knocked down prices will potentially threaten pubs even more than they are at present....
It's just unfortunate the planning system does not allow for so many other areas of consideration when objecting to planning applications, as the number of areas which have not been touched upon by this reporter are far higher than people realise.
roor06 wrote:
All supermarkets are evil ... They are all part of a grand plan ... The next generation will be denied the choice of going to the butchers,bakers,gree ngrocers and local corner shop as small businesses cant compete ... Then we have no options anymore but to shop in these places and eat their overpriced rubbish ...
Assuming your serious not sarcastic here the point you make is very true. It's just sad so may of us are sucked in to supermarkets so naively ( including myself on occassions - but NOT TESCO - NOT EVER!)
Convenience, cheaper goods, all under one roof, ease of parking, and special offers.
The list of enticers is endless, just sad we drop our principles so easily, and forget the local economy, shops, businesses, and even Farmers Market all need our trade too.
If we do not use them, we lose them! Simple as that.
When stores like Tesco are making such disgusting profits maybe we should all be buying shares in them, alternatively maybe they ought to re - invest some of their profits to ensure the communities they destroy do not suffer.
(Suggestions on a postcard....)
Whatever way we look at it until we see alot more of what goes on behind the scenes in supermarkets, how much food goes to waste - straight into the bins - (Whether Health & safety dictate or not!) we will continue to support the disgusting over-provision of our greed.
Perhaps its time for us to stop, and re - assess our priorities, and while we throw food away so freely & easily, so many others in the world are starving to death, or dying from malnutritian.
Surely we should be getting more of a balance, and stop the food wasteage through our disgusting multi-national giant supermarkets.
Communities have enough issues and problems to contend with, Partick is no different.
The other worry is if this Tesco is granted a 24 hour licence to trade its ability to sell alcohol at potential knocked down prices will potentially threaten pubs even more than they are at present....
It's just unfortunate the planning system does not allow for so many other areas of consideration when objecting to planning applications, as the number of areas which have not been touched upon by this reporter are far higher than people realise.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 8:56pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Polly Bag[/bold] wrote:
[quote]"This decision is unbelievable and I am in total shock."[/quote] a shop plans are approved over reaction or what , one vegeburger too many been consumed by these numpties![/quote]
Fully agree here polly bag.
This emotional overreaction, and unhelpful comment hardly speaks in a positive light....
Glad it's not just me who is disappointed in the way this quote was used, far more positive language could of been used, telling the public of what the next step will be.
Polly Bag wrote:
"This decision is unbelievable and I am in total shock."
a shop plans are approved over reaction or what , one vegeburger too many been consumed by these numpties!
Fully agree here polly bag.
This emotional overreaction, and unhelpful comment hardly speaks in a positive light....
Glad it's not just me who is disappointed in the way this quote was used, far more positive language could of been used, telling the public of what the next step will be.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 8:53am Mon 21 Jul 08
See if it's built, and the local people don't want to use it (or not local I guess - I don't live round there anymore but will stop in at Sainsbury's or M&S if it's convenient; certainly wouldn't drive five miles to go shopping).....
But, see if it's built, and the local people don't want to use it, then they won't and the store will fail. If however - brace yourself PP - loads of people go shopping there and it makes money, then it will stay. That's how it works. There will be competition amongst stores and people will vote with their feet and wallet. That's people power.
See if it's built, and the local people don't want to use it (or not local I guess - I don't live round there anymore but will stop in at Sainsbury's or M&S if it's convenient; certainly wouldn't drive five miles to go shopping).....
But, see if it's built, and the local people don't want to use it, then they won't and the store will fail. If however - brace yourself PP - loads of people go shopping there and it makes money, then it will stay. That's how it works. There will be competition amongst stores and people will vote with their feet and wallet. That's people power.
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Posted by: victor meldrew, condorrat on 10:59am Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Frank[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Polly Bag[/bold] wrote: bunch of Westend weirdos, [bold]good luck Tesco[/bold] ,hope that this will get rid of the moaning politics and more anti labourite banal pointless nimby typists who log on.................. .................... FULL of their expensive red wine ,with red luminous lips and rosy cheeks glowing into their PC screens late at night, pontificating about 'consumer rights to shop in Malcomn Campbells' ( which disappeared about 1979, showing their age) CRETINS that are all rich and can just flit if they don't like it, back to their birth right =Govan's wine alley, and hope Tesco build a few stores on top of them unawares when they nip to The 3 Judges for a quick top up of red poison, and rnat about where they can build their soyabean mince factories.[/quote] Quite agree. Labour has stood up to these bullies as usual protecting the common man. [/quote] Just calm down, pick up your teeth from the floor and put them back in, wipe the foam from your mouth, take a deep breath, and try to articulate CALMLY.
Frank wrote:
Polly Bag wrote: bunch of Westend weirdos, good luck Tesco ,hope that this will get rid of the moaning politics and more anti labourite banal pointless nimby typists who log on.................. .................... FULL of their expensive red wine ,with red luminous lips and rosy cheeks glowing into their PC screens late at night, pontificating about 'consumer rights to shop in Malcomn Campbells' ( which disappeared about 1979, showing their age) CRETINS that are all rich and can just flit if they don't like it, back to their birth right =Govan's wine alley, and hope Tesco build a few stores on top of them unawares when they nip to The 3 Judges for a quick top up of red poison, and rnat about where they can build their soyabean mince factories.
Quite agree. Labour has stood up to these bullies as usual protecting the common man.
Just calm down, pick up your teeth from the floor and put them back in, wipe the foam from your mouth, take a deep breath, and try to articulate CALMLY.
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me.co.uk@f, glasgow on 12:38pm Mon 21 Jul 08
i liked the comment about the rich people in the west end. i happen to be one of the poor ones who has a rented house and no car and cant afford to shop anywhere else. tesco will be great as sainsbury are expensive, morrisons not much better, asda to far away, local shops, not that many are far too expensive and charge way over the odds for groceries. the local shops here are mostly charity shops as no one else can afford the rates. well done tesco, i for one cannot wait to you open your doors. good luck.
i liked the comment about the rich people in the west end. i happen to be one of the poor ones who has a rented house and no car and cant afford to shop anywhere else. tesco will be great as sainsbury are expensive, morrisons not much better, asda to far away, local shops, not that many are far too expensive and charge way over the odds for groceries. the local shops here are mostly charity shops as no one else can afford the rates. well done tesco, i for one cannot wait to you open your doors. good luck.
Posted by: NR, Scotstoun on 2:13pm Mon 21 Jul 08
I can't wait for this to open. A large supermarket with lots of choice. Better than than the other rival supermarket that is in Partick at the moment. Might brighten up the place.
I can't wait for this to open. A large supermarket with lots of choice. Better than than the other rival supermarket that is in Partick at the moment. Might brighten up the place.
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