Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:28am Mon 21 Jul 08
Yet another sad example of how our decrepit New Labour city council is happy to let vital services for vulnerable people go to the wall, while it continues to [bold]waste hundreds of millions of taxpayers' money on useless, vanity projects like the 2014 Diddy Games[/bold].
Sydney Meriwether
[italic]On holiday in Ullapool without the dog.[/italic]
Yet another sad example of how our decrepit New Labour city council is happy to let vital services for vulnerable people go to the wall, while it continues to
waste hundreds of millions of taxpayers' money on useless, vanity projects like the 2014 Diddy Games.
Sydney Meriwether
On holiday in Ullapool without the dog. Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:01pm Mon 21 Jul 08
It's just sad that our councillors & politicians can't, won't or don't speak out when serious and terrible issues like this arise.
Of course hostels should not be a long term solution to homelessness. (nor B & B's!)
But, if Councillors, politicians, and those who turn their noses up at the homeless - and say they have theirselves to blame swapped places with them, and lived in these hostels they might even develop some empathy, or understanding.
Having volunteered at one of the numerous soup kitchens run around the city by The Simon Community, an excellent charity & organisation for the homeless, I can say that homelessness is being swept under the carpet far too often.
I just hope that it will not be ignored even further due to the bad press it gives the council & politicians alike to the rest of the country, Europe & the World in the run up to the 2014 Commonwealth Games.
There are situations where I do not condone begging, or aggressive behaviour, and the Big Issue should be seen as an alternative.
But, even the management of the paper / magazine must surely admit it is being hi-jacked, and has far too many pitches in some parts of Glasgow. With some who cannot speak enough English, and some who have no proper pitches, or I.D. badges.
These kind of issues cannot be ignored, put to one side, or denied as being the problem it is today for any longer.
The homeless people of Glasgow may have drug or alcohol problems, but if that is their only vice to survive the depressing life on the streets alot due to genuine reasons, then who can blame them.
It's just proof again that there is also the serious lack of provision of placements in drying out centres, A.A. Councilling, and other forms of being given methadone with support from the medical proffession.
People should be ashamed that we still have this kind of problem in the UK. As it will not go away until we face up to it, place funding where it is needed, and stop treating the homeless as second class citizens.
Many have had very interesting lives, and stories to tell, and need a listening ear even more so.
Perhaps instead of supporting charities which are so well advertised, and the much bigger world relief organisations - we shoud give a couple of pounds to homeless charities & organisations within our own cities.
After all [italic]" Charity begins at home. "[/italic]
It's just sad that our councillors & politicians can't, won't or don't speak out when serious and terrible issues like this arise.
Of course hostels should not be a long term solution to homelessness. (nor B & B's!)
But, if Councillors, politicians, and those who turn their noses up at the homeless - and say they have theirselves to blame swapped places with them, and lived in these hostels they might even develop some empathy, or understanding.
Having volunteered at one of the numerous soup kitchens run around the city by The Simon Community, an excellent charity & organisation for the homeless, I can say that homelessness is being swept under the carpet far too often.
I just hope that it will not be ignored even further due to the bad press it gives the council & politicians alike to the rest of the country, Europe & the World in the run up to the 2014 Commonwealth Games.
There are situations where I do not condone begging, or aggressive behaviour, and the Big Issue should be seen as an alternative.
But, even the management of the paper / magazine must surely admit it is being hi-jacked, and has far too many pitches in some parts of Glasgow. With some who cannot speak enough English, and some who have no proper pitches, or I.D. badges.
These kind of issues cannot be ignored, put to one side, or denied as being the problem it is today for any longer.
The homeless people of Glasgow may have drug or alcohol problems, but if that is their only vice to survive the depressing life on the streets alot due to genuine reasons, then who can blame them.
It's just proof again that there is also the serious lack of provision of placements in drying out centres, A.A. Councilling, and other forms of being given methadone with support from the medical proffession.
People should be ashamed that we still have this kind of problem in the UK. As it will not go away until we face up to it, place funding where it is needed, and stop treating the homeless as second class citizens.
Many have had very interesting lives, and stories to tell, and need a listening ear even more so.
Perhaps instead of supporting charities which are so well advertised, and the much bigger world relief organisations - we shoud give a couple of pounds to homeless charities & organisations within our own cities.
After all
" Charity begins at home. " Posted by: the man, moral high ground on 12:07pm Mon 21 Jul 08
Sydney how cynical . I am so looking forward the situation in 2014 when I am in the car and I start to panic bcause I missed the quater finals of the archery or some other nothing minority sport . Ask anyone in athletics in America about the Commonwealth games and they will tell you they have never heard of it . It has all the kudos of a local town fair . Meanwhile the lottery gives grants for a glorfied Paddys Market . Please people waken up Labour are stuck in the past .......who to vote for ......God only knows . This hostel must be saved if not we are all to blame .
Sydney how cynical . I am so looking forward the situation in 2014 when I am in the car and I start to panic bcause I missed the quater finals of the archery or some other nothing minority sport . Ask anyone in athletics in America about the Commonwealth games and they will tell you they have never heard of it . It has all the kudos of a local town fair . Meanwhile the lottery gives grants for a glorfied Paddys Market . Please people waken up Labour are stuck in the past .......who to vote for ......God only knows . This hostel must be saved if not we are all to blame .
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:29pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]the man[/bold] wrote:
Sydney how cynical . I am so looking forward the situation in 2014 when I am in the car and I start to panic bcause I missed the quater finals of the archery or some other nothing minority sport . Ask anyone in athletics in America about the Commonwealth games and they will tell you they have never heard of it . It has all the kudos of a local town fair . Meanwhile the lottery gives grants for a glorfied Paddys Market . Please people waken up Labour are stuck in the past .......who to vote for ......God only knows . This hostel must be saved if not we are all to blame . [/quote]
Fully agree, the labour party priorities are all wrong, morally, and common sensically.
Just how they continue to justify where our tax paying money goes, and why is a mystery.
the man wrote:
Sydney how cynical . I am so looking forward the situation in 2014 when I am in the car and I start to panic bcause I missed the quater finals of the archery or some other nothing minority sport . Ask anyone in athletics in America about the Commonwealth games and they will tell you they have never heard of it . It has all the kudos of a local town fair . Meanwhile the lottery gives grants for a glorfied Paddys Market . Please people waken up Labour are stuck in the past .......who to vote for ......God only knows . This hostel must be saved if not we are all to blame .
Fully agree, the labour party priorities are all wrong, morally, and common sensically.
Just how they continue to justify where our tax paying money goes, and why is a mystery.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:03pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote]quater finals of the archery[/quote]
I can't wait!
[quote]But, if Councillors, politicians, and those who turn their noses up at the homeless - and say they have theirselves to blame swapped places with them, and lived in these hostels they might even develop some empathy, or understanding.[/quote]
Sweep it under the carpet and, to our public officials, it doesn't exist. They think putting some poor sod who has, for decades, had a drink or drug problem or mental health issues in a house, on their own, in the community is helping them. Well, it isn't. They need help, not ignored. But why would they want to spend money helping people when they can build a running track.
Purcell - couldn't find his backside with both hands.
quater finals of the archery
I can't wait!
But, if Councillors, politicians, and those who turn their noses up at the homeless - and say they have theirselves to blame swapped places with them, and lived in these hostels they might even develop some empathy, or understanding.
Sweep it under the carpet and, to our public officials, it doesn't exist. They think putting some poor sod who has, for decades, had a drink or drug problem or mental health issues in a house, on their own, in the community is helping them. Well, it isn't. They need help, not ignored. But why would they want to spend money helping people when they can build a running track.
Purcell - couldn't find his backside with both hands.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 3:02pm Mon 21 Jul 08
The expression [italic]"Out of sight, out of mind!"[/italic] seems appropriate.
Homeless, less fortunate, and all awkward situations are being swept under the political carpet.
Meanwhile, our politicians & councillors alike are the ones who are out of mind. Out of touch with the electorate, public, and the reality of this situation....
While they continue to line their pockets, others have to struggle to find their next meal, bed - place of safety and avoid the hassle and potential of being mugged, or potentially murdered themselves by those even more drugged up, or fuelled by the demon drink.
( & that doesn't have to include the homeless.)
The expression
"Out of sight, out of mind!" seems appropriate.
Homeless, less fortunate, and all awkward situations are being swept under the political carpet.
Meanwhile, our politicians & councillors alike are the ones who are out of mind. Out of touch with the electorate, public, and the reality of this situation....
While they continue to line their pockets, others have to struggle to find their next meal, bed - place of safety and avoid the hassle and potential of being mugged, or potentially murdered themselves by those even more drugged up, or fuelled by the demon drink.
( & that doesn't have to include the homeless.)
Posted by: scotgod, glasgow on 9:18pm Mon 21 Jul 08
why not move the homeless to dunoon
why not move the homeless to dunoon
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:05pm Mon 21 Jul 08
Why not take yourself there, on a one way ticket.....while your at it, take Frank, Forbes Aiken, Johnny Punchclock, and all these other insincere or labourite trolls with you.
Why not take yourself there, on a one way ticket.....while your at it, take Frank, Forbes Aiken, Johnny Punchclock, and all these other insincere or labourite trolls with you.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 11:17pm Mon 21 Jul 08
I suggest the homeless should be placed in the East end of Glasgow where Ms Curran will' fight tooth and nail' to ensure they stay there, well away from her south side abode
I suggest the homeless should be placed in the East end of Glasgow where Ms Curran will' fight tooth and nail' to ensure they stay there, well away from her south side abode
Posted by: celtic4, United States on 1:29pm Tue 22 Jul 08
"There but for the Grace of God go I.." about being homeless. I really feel bad that government "world-wide" has no more compunction than to not care that people have to sleep in snow, midges, mosquitos, rain, what have you than in a nice warm bed after a good shower bath,while they are willing to line their pockets with tons of money.
"There but for the Grace of God go I.." about being homeless. I really feel bad that government "world-wide" has no more compunction than to not care that people have to sleep in snow, midges, mosquitos, rain, what have you than in a nice warm bed after a good shower bath,while they are willing to line their pockets with tons of money.
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