Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:07am Tue 22 Jul 08
Maybe it can power a light rail system for Glasgow eh!
Maybe it can power a light rail system for Glasgow eh!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 11:32am Tue 22 Jul 08
Would Ms Bishop prefer a view of a new power station?
This would be the biggest windfarm in Europe, Whitlee possibly second or thereabouts. A solid committment to developing green energy sources. Good.
Would Ms Bishop prefer a view of a new power station?
This would be the biggest windfarm in Europe, Whitlee possibly second or thereabouts. A solid committment to developing green energy sources. Good.
Posted by: Seymour Hope, Glasgow on 12:38pm Tue 22 Jul 08
We still need nuclear or an alternative to support renwables.
We still need nuclear or an alternative to support renwables.
Posted by: hugo, south side on 12:58pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I am delighted that the wind farm has been announced, The sooner we embrace renewable energy sources the better.
As for nuclear power, will sorry, its to costly, dangerous and the long term implications are not good. I am sure if the same amount of money to build a nuclear plant was spent on renewable sources we would get a similar, if not better output, without the legacy problems of nuclear
I am delighted that the wind farm has been announced, The sooner we embrace renewable energy sources the better.
As for nuclear power, will sorry, its to costly, dangerous and the long term implications are not good. I am sure if the same amount of money to build a nuclear plant was spent on renewable sources we would get a similar, if not better output, without the legacy problems of nuclear
Posted by: hugo, south side on 12:59pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I am delighted that the wind farm has been announced, The sooner we embrace renewable energy sources the better.
As for nuclear power, will sorry, its to costly, dangerous and the long term implications are not good. I am sure if the same amount of money to build a nuclear plant was spent on renewable sources we would get a similar, if not better output, without the legacy problems of nuclear
I am delighted that the wind farm has been announced, The sooner we embrace renewable energy sources the better.
As for nuclear power, will sorry, its to costly, dangerous and the long term implications are not good. I am sure if the same amount of money to build a nuclear plant was spent on renewable sources we would get a similar, if not better output, without the legacy problems of nuclear
Posted by: Alan Wishart, Glasgow on 1:22pm Tue 22 Jul 08
The Reader Poll is meaningless.
Windfarms like this in the central belt are a great idea - those in the most scenic areas where tourism will be hit are not.
The Reader Poll is meaningless.
Windfarms like this in the central belt are a great idea - those in the most scenic areas where tourism will be hit are not.
Posted by: Southside, Giffnock on 2:29pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Windfarms are terrible. They are not a reliable form of energy.
Nuclear is the way forward, until an alternative green form of electricity can be produced which is availabe at the switch of a button.
Windfarms are terrible. They are not a reliable form of energy.
Nuclear is the way forward, until an alternative green form of electricity can be produced which is availabe at the switch of a button.
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 2:34pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Southside, who's to say they're to be relied upon 100% of the time? If they add X amount of energy to the grid, then that's X amount of energy that doesn't need to be supplied to the grid by other less harmful means (although I am 100% behind nuclear).
Southside, who's to say they're to be relied upon 100% of the time? If they add X amount of energy to the grid, then that's X amount of energy that doesn't need to be supplied to the grid by other less harmful means (although I am 100% behind nuclear).
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 2:37pm Tue 22 Jul 08
More harmful. More! Darrrhgh
More harmful. More! Darrrhgh
Posted by: Asturias, Glasgow on 2:51pm Tue 22 Jul 08
They are hiddeous.A real blot on the landscape.
How long is it before the Campsies and the Kilpatricks are wrecked ? Windfarms do not provide base load and are all about politicians looking good and giving the impression that something is being done.
They are hiddeous.A real blot on the landscape.
How long is it before the Campsies and the Kilpatricks are wrecked ? Windfarms do not provide base load and are all about politicians looking good and giving the impression that something is being done.
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 3:21pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Why don't they try and make the turbine shafts out of glass and the blades out of clear perspex? They might blend in a bit better....just a thought....
Why don't they try and make the turbine shafts out of glass and the blades out of clear perspex? They might blend in a bit better....just a thought....
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 4:30pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Mr Kebab, do you not think though that the fact they're big visible white things is kind of handy in a not-being-hit-by-pla
nes sense?
Mr Kebab, do you not think though that the fact they're big visible white things is kind of handy in a not-being-hit-by-pla
nes sense?
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 4:53pm Tue 22 Jul 08
We are now fully committed to the lie of global warming, and this monstrosity is only the first of many planned thousands all over Scotland.The bottom line is it will only increase fuel bills not lower them,just watch how they rocket in the coming years,all in aid of the big Con.
We are now fully committed to the lie of global warming, and this monstrosity is only the first of many planned thousands all over Scotland.The bottom line is it will only increase fuel bills not lower them,just watch how they rocket in the coming years,all in aid of the big Con.
Posted by: Brad on 5:11pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote]the lie of global warming[/quote]
If it's a lie, why do so many scientists, governments and the press seem to be believe it?
the lie of global warming
If it's a lie, why do so many scientists, governments and the press seem to be believe it?
Posted by: jrb, Glasgow on 5:22pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
[quote]the lie of global warming[/quote] If it's a lie, why do so many scientists, governments and the press seem to be believe it?[/quote] Yeah, you mean government scientists of course!.
Brad wrote:
the lie of global warming
If it's a lie, why do so many scientists, governments and the press seem to be believe it?
Yeah, you mean government scientists of course!.
Posted by: broxibear51, alexandria,scotland on 5:30pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I agree with you jrb, global warming is a con, if you look bck at history you will see that the world heats up and then cools down and this will happen again, it is just another way to get money from people in so called taxes.
I agree with you jrb, global warming is a con, if you look bck at history you will see that the world heats up and then cools down and this will happen again, it is just another way to get money from people in so called taxes.
Posted by: scotgod, glasgow on 6:23pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]broxibear51[/bold] wrote:
I agree with you jrb, global warming is a con, if you look bck at history you will see that the world heats up and then cools down and this will happen again, it is just another way to get money from people in so called taxes.[/quote] who cares about future generation anyway, as long as we ok for another 60 years ill be happy
broxibear51 wrote:
I agree with you jrb, global warming is a con, if you look bck at history you will see that the world heats up and then cools down and this will happen again, it is just another way to get money from people in so called taxes.
who cares about future generation anyway, as long as we ok for another 60 years ill be happy
Posted by: scotgod, glasgow on 6:24pm Tue 22 Jul 08
while I am at it the quicker pandas become extinct the better
while I am at it the quicker pandas become extinct the better
Posted by: puskas, East Kilbride on 7:05pm Tue 22 Jul 08
The massive problem with nuclear is the spent fuel.
Also the hidden danger of different forms of cancers'.
The Scottish Government is on the right road in advancing other forms of producing energy.
The reprocessing plant at Sellafield, Cumbria is a death trap for not only the localised area but straight up the West Coast of Scotland and into Scandinavia. Oh! I forgot to mention the Republic Of Ireland.
I worked their in 1990/1 in an office of 22 foreman and engineers. When I retired in 1996 with health problems 7 of my mates had died of cancer. Bowel, Bladder, Prostrate. I fear others have gone the same way since I retired and lost touch.
Present day the UK government have still to decide where to store the spent fuel..
Now the scientist inform us that spent fuel will remain active for 1,000+ years.
I personally do not wish to leave this legacy to future generations..
Some with a more selfish disposition may not bother leaving a major problem for our future generations.
The massive problem with nuclear is the spent fuel.
Also the hidden danger of different forms of cancers'.
The Scottish Government is on the right road in advancing other forms of producing energy.
The reprocessing plant at Sellafield, Cumbria is a death trap for not only the localised area but straight up the West Coast of Scotland and into Scandinavia. Oh! I forgot to mention the Republic Of Ireland.
I worked their in 1990/1 in an office of 22 foreman and engineers. When I retired in 1996 with health problems 7 of my mates had died of cancer. Bowel, Bladder, Prostrate. I fear others have gone the same way since I retired and lost touch.
Present day the UK government have still to decide where to store the spent fuel..
Now the scientist inform us that spent fuel will remain active for 1,000+ years.
I personally do not wish to leave this legacy to future generations..
Some with a more selfish disposition may not bother leaving a major problem for our future generations.
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Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 10:06am Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote]Mr Kebab, do you not think though that the fact they're big visible white things is kind of handy in a not-being-hit-by-pla
nes sense?[/quote]
Yes, thats a good point. Ok, I would further suggest that the airline industry stipulate that all planes must be fitted with a see through glass wind turbine collision avoidance system. Or STGWTCAS for short.
Mr Kebab, do you not think though that the fact they're big visible white things is kind of handy in a not-being-hit-by-pla
nes sense?
Yes, thats a good point. Ok, I would further suggest that the airline industry stipulate that all planes must be fitted with a see through glass wind turbine collision avoidance system. Or STGWTCAS for short.
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 10:42am Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
[quote]the lie of global warming[/quote]
If it's a lie, why do so many scientists, governments and the press seem to be believe it?[/quote] Well,
I was on a trans-atlantic flight in the middle of June and whilst in the flight deck, the captain was showing me a huge ice 'shelf' stretching for about 10 or more miles off the coast of Greenland which we could hear some Air Canada pilots talking about on the radio... apparantly it is highly unusual for so much ice to be in that location at this time of the year! As was mentioned before (and as any stadard grade geography student could tell you!), the earth's temperature does periodically fluctuate, and yes we do need to clean up our act, but global warming is just another excuse to tax us more... after all, got an illegal war to pay for!
Brad wrote:
the lie of global warming
If it's a lie, why do so many scientists, governments and the press seem to be believe it?
Well,
I was on a trans-atlantic flight in the middle of June and whilst in the flight deck, the captain was showing me a huge ice 'shelf' stretching for about 10 or more miles off the coast of Greenland which we could hear some Air Canada pilots talking about on the radio... apparantly it is highly unusual for so much ice to be in that location at this time of the year! As was mentioned before (and as any stadard grade geography student could tell you!), the earth's temperature does periodically fluctuate, and yes we do need to clean up our act, but global warming is just another excuse to tax us more... after all, got an illegal war to pay for!
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 11:09am Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote]Well,
I was on a trans-atlantic flight in the middle of June and whilst in the flight deck, the captain was showing me a huge ice 'shelf' stretching for about 10 or more miles off the coast of Greenland which we could hear some Air Canada pilots talking about on the radio... apparantly it is highly unusual for so much ice to be in that location at this time of the year! As was mentioned before (and as any stadard grade geography student could tell you!), the earth's temperature does periodically fluctuate, and yes we do need to clean up our act, but global warming is just another excuse to tax us more... after all, got an illegal war to pay for![/quote]
I hope the pilot had his STGWTCAS switched on while you were chatting...
Well,
I was on a trans-atlantic flight in the middle of June and whilst in the flight deck, the captain was showing me a huge ice 'shelf' stretching for about 10 or more miles off the coast of Greenland which we could hear some Air Canada pilots talking about on the radio... apparantly it is highly unusual for so much ice to be in that location at this time of the year! As was mentioned before (and as any stadard grade geography student could tell you!), the earth's temperature does periodically fluctuate, and yes we do need to clean up our act, but global warming is just another excuse to tax us more... after all, got an illegal war to pay for!
I hope the pilot had his STGWTCAS switched on while you were chatting...
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 11:57am Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]John Kebab[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Well,
I was on a trans-atlantic flight in the middle of June and whilst in the flight deck, the captain was showing me a huge ice 'shelf' stretching for about 10 or more miles off the coast of Greenland which we could hear some Air Canada pilots talking about on the radio... apparantly it is highly unusual for so much ice to be in that location at this time of the year! As was mentioned before (and as any stadard grade geography student could tell you!), the earth's temperature does periodically fluctuate, and yes we do need to clean up our act, but global warming is just another excuse to tax us more... after all, got an illegal war to pay for![/quote]
I hope the pilot had his STGWTCAS switched on while you were chatting...[/quote] It's the first thing they switch on before they even start the engines! :D
John Kebab wrote:
Well,
I was on a trans-atlantic flight in the middle of June and whilst in the flight deck, the captain was showing me a huge ice 'shelf' stretching for about 10 or more miles off the coast of Greenland which we could hear some Air Canada pilots talking about on the radio... apparantly it is highly unusual for so much ice to be in that location at this time of the year! As was mentioned before (and as any stadard grade geography student could tell you!), the earth's temperature does periodically fluctuate, and yes we do need to clean up our act, but global warming is just another excuse to tax us more... after all, got an illegal war to pay for!
I hope the pilot had his STGWTCAS switched on while you were chatting...
It's the first thing they switch on before they even start the engines! :D
Posted by: Gazetteer, Glasgow on 1:21pm Wed 23 Jul 08
WWF Scotland Director Dr Richard Dixon is quoted as saying that: "The Clyde windfarm is a good proposal as it is close to major centres of population - who will use the power it generates - and away from Scotland's most valuable landscapes.
"Scotland needs more of this sort of large, Central Belt windfarm to help us move quickly to clean, green energy."
May I point out that the site is neither near a large centre of population nor in the Central Belt. The nearest town is Moffat, not Glasgow. and the site is on the northern fringe of the Southern Uplands. One is used to "environmentalists" being technically illiterate (they peddle the illusion that wind power can replace nuclear power, for example - it can't) but this is a first.
WWF Scotland Director Dr Richard Dixon is quoted as saying that: "The Clyde windfarm is a good proposal as it is close to major centres of population - who will use the power it generates - and away from Scotland's most valuable landscapes.
"Scotland needs more of this sort of large, Central Belt windfarm to help us move quickly to clean, green energy."
May I point out that the site is neither near a large centre of population nor in the Central Belt. The nearest town is Moffat, not Glasgow. and the site is on the northern fringe of the Southern Uplands. One is used to "environmentalists" being technically illiterate (they peddle the illusion that wind power can replace nuclear power, for example - it can't) but this is a first.
Posted by: emma, Glasgow on 7:28pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Wind turbines are quite pretty, think of them as size zero windmills :) Better than a nuclear power station or a coalface!
Wind turbines are quite pretty, think of them as size zero windmills :) Better than a nuclear power station or a coalface!
Posted by: marshall conklin, New Jersey, USA on 6:34am Thu 24 Jul 08
Wind turbines are much more attractive than telephone poles strung all over with wires.
Here in NJ there is some lovely landscape spoiled by all the wires and poles!!!!
Wind turbines are much more attractive than telephone poles strung all over with wires.
Here in NJ there is some lovely landscape spoiled by all the wires and poles!!!!