Posted by: Brad on 11:11am Wed 23 Jul 08
A small number of people slightly late for work shocker!
A small number of people slightly late for work shocker!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 11:26am Wed 23 Jul 08
50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.
50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:34am Wed 23 Jul 08
Hardly a news story.
Considering First & Scotrail are partners. This alternative arrangement should of automatically fallen into place, and First should just get on with their job.
This taking all the praise for what is effectively a non story is sickening.
What does Mark Savelli ; (Managing Director for First's bus operations in Glasgow) want ?
A gold star, pat on the head, or brownie points for doing the bear minimum in keeping services running.
Come on E.T. show us some real news stories.
Hardly a news story.
Considering First & Scotrail are partners. This alternative arrangement should of automatically fallen into place, and First should just get on with their job.
This taking all the praise for what is effectively a non story is sickening.
What does Mark Savelli ; (Managing Director for First's bus operations in Glasgow) want ?
A gold star, pat on the head, or brownie points for doing the bear minimum in keeping services running.
Come on E.T. show us some real news stories.
Posted by: GJS, Glasgow on 12:40pm Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.[/quote] Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.
Pete wrote:
50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.
Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 12:45pm Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.[/quote] Many hundreds of commuters were decanted from the trains that ran every 10-15 minutes and found that they couldn't board the existing already crowded bus services.
The only addition to the service on the first day of operation was a single bus that ran every half an hour that went part of the way (to either Kings Park or Pollocksheilds East station)!
Go do the maths.
Weather has been okay but scant compensation for those living in Mount Florida and Cathcart that will find the walk takes up to an hour to get into town.
Pete wrote:
50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.
Many hundreds of commuters were decanted from the trains that ran every 10-15 minutes and found that they couldn't board the existing already crowded bus services.
The only addition to the service on the first day of operation was a single bus that ran every half an hour that went part of the way (to either Kings Park or Pollocksheilds East station)!
Go do the maths.
Weather has been okay but scant compensation for those living in Mount Florida and Cathcart that will find the walk takes up to an hour to get into town.
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 12:50pm Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]GJS[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: 50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.[/quote] Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.[/quote] Perhaps First and Scotrail could withdraw all bus services and club together to fund bicycle clips for the commuters that were displaced from the trains onto buses that didn't have the capacity for them?
Alternatively, as you are both fitness fiends, perhaps you'd like to give me a piggy back from Mount Florida to Central Station?
Firstly, it combines strengthening with cardiovascular exercise to improve your overall stamina.
Secondly, I can be carried on pavements, thus preventing us from dodging traffic on your tandem bicycle on a busy road that's not cycle friendly.
GJS wrote:
Pete wrote: 50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.
Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.
Perhaps First and Scotrail could withdraw all bus services and club together to fund bicycle clips for the commuters that were displaced from the trains onto buses that didn't have the capacity for them?
Alternatively, as you are both fitness fiends, perhaps you'd like to give me a piggy back from Mount Florida to Central Station?
Firstly, it combines strengthening with cardiovascular exercise to improve your overall stamina.
Secondly, I can be carried on pavements, thus preventing us from dodging traffic on your tandem bicycle on a busy road that's not cycle friendly.
Posted by: CrackerG, Glasgow on 2:03pm Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]GJS[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: 50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.[/quote] Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.[/quote] Are you people students or employed part-time or something like that!?!
Who has 30 mins to spare in the morning to afford themselves a sweaty walk into work past such delights as the Gorbals, which is enough to make you want to turn around and go home.
I'd gladly pay the "greedy transport giant" my £1.30 to get me to work in the morning - and visit the gym at my leisure in the evening.
Those with real jobs and busy lives will appreciate my point.
GJS wrote:
Pete wrote: 50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.
Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.
Are you people students or employed part-time or something like that!?!
Who has 30 mins to spare in the morning to afford themselves a sweaty walk into work past such delights as the Gorbals, which is enough to make you want to turn around and go home.
I'd gladly pay the "greedy transport giant" my £1.30 to get me to work in the morning - and visit the gym at my leisure in the evening.
Those with real jobs and busy lives will appreciate my point.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 2:10pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Well, I do have a real job and a busy life, and obviously I lack cracker's delicate sensibilities about walking through the scary areas.
I'd rather walk for 30 minutes to get to my work than than stand around waiting. Motivation and initiative: very useful in [italic]my[/italic] real job.
Well, I do have a real job and a busy life, and obviously I lack cracker's delicate sensibilities about walking through the scary areas.
I'd rather walk for 30 minutes to get to my work than than stand around waiting. Motivation and initiative: very useful in
my real job.
Posted by: stmonan, Glasgow on 2:19pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Sadly the advice to get the shoes on and walk is actually best, even if it speaks volumes about how crap transport in this city is that walking is better than anything else.
WorstGroup shouldn't be bailing itself out, it should have anticipated and planned for the problem sensibly. For example, does the whole line need to be shut for a month? Wouldn't some of the Cathcart Circle be available so you could at least go the long way round?
Aye, £1.30 for a bus trip over a 20-minute walk, £1.50 or £2 if you don't carry the correct change, of course. You could cross London for £1 on a bus. What a joke.
Sadly the advice to get the shoes on and walk is actually best, even if it speaks volumes about how crap transport in this city is that walking is better than anything else.
WorstGroup shouldn't be bailing itself out, it should have anticipated and planned for the problem sensibly. For example, does the whole line need to be shut for a month? Wouldn't some of the Cathcart Circle be available so you could at least go the long way round?
Aye, £1.30 for a bus trip over a 20-minute walk, £1.50 or £2 if you don't carry the correct change, of course. You could cross London for £1 on a bus. What a joke.
Posted by: James, South Side on 2:38pm Wed 23 Jul 08
The 44 is packed and impossible to get on most days.
The 44 is packed and impossible to get on most days.
Posted by: People Power on 3:13pm Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]CrackerG[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GJS[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: 50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.[/quote] Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.[/quote] Are you people students or employed part-time or something like that!?! Who has 30 mins to spare in the morning to afford themselves a sweaty walk into work past such delights as the Gorbals, which is enough to make you want to turn around and go home. I'd gladly pay the "greedy transport giant" my £1.30 to get me to work in the morning - and visit the gym at my leisure in the evening. Those with real jobs and busy lives will appreciate my point.[/quote]
Excessive sweating suggests those who contemplate, never mind walk 30 minutes to their work are maybe carrying a few extra pounds ? ? Hmmmm!
It's hardly an olympic workout, or sprint to the finish line - it's a leisurely walk to work.
Many folk can't even contemplate the stairs versus the lift / escalator.....
So, is it any wonder we have the rate of ill health, being far less physically fit, or healthy generally.
As for giving First our money, until they provide the quality and level of service we expect from them, why should we pay their exorbitant fares ?
Folk need to ditch the cars, and find alternatives it's that simple.
Those who must use their car should seriously consider car sharing options & cut down traffic on the roads.
Maybe it's time G.C.C. introduced incentives for folk to car share, as well as those for people who drive cars with lower emissions, or smaller more efficient cars generally.
CrackerG wrote:
GJS wrote: Pete wrote: 50 people waited for how long? Rather than... walk? I know not everyone could, but Queens Park station to Central - about a 25-30 minute walk. Weather's been ok.
Quite right. People in Glasgow seem to be very lazy and unimaginative with their travel plans. As you say, a 25-30 minute walk and an even quicker cycle run. Better to get some exercise in the process of getting to work than unnecessarily pay money to greedy transport giants.
Are you people students or employed part-time or something like that!?! Who has 30 mins to spare in the morning to afford themselves a sweaty walk into work past such delights as the Gorbals, which is enough to make you want to turn around and go home. I'd gladly pay the "greedy transport giant" my £1.30 to get me to work in the morning - and visit the gym at my leisure in the evening. Those with real jobs and busy lives will appreciate my point.
Excessive sweating suggests those who contemplate, never mind walk 30 minutes to their work are maybe carrying a few extra pounds ? ? Hmmmm!
It's hardly an olympic workout, or sprint to the finish line - it's a leisurely walk to work.
Many folk can't even contemplate the stairs versus the lift / escalator.....
So, is it any wonder we have the rate of ill health, being far less physically fit, or healthy generally.
As for giving First our money, until they provide the quality and level of service we expect from them, why should we pay their exorbitant fares ?
Folk need to ditch the cars, and find alternatives it's that simple.
Those who must use their car should seriously consider car sharing options & cut down traffic on the roads.
Maybe it's time G.C.C. introduced incentives for folk to car share, as well as those for people who drive cars with lower emissions, or smaller more efficient cars generally.
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 3:52pm Wed 23 Jul 08
5 stations were shut with 2 or 3 at most being walking distance meaning 2 or 3 are not.
The daft failure of the transport managers to anticipate the extra demand on bus services has led to equally daft jibes about delicate and under motivated commuters being terrified by walking through the southside when they are just poorly served by the, ahem, 'replacement services'.
I think there's not much appetite for women to cut through Queen's Park now, guess that makes them hysterical?
5 stations were shut with 2 or 3 at most being walking distance meaning 2 or 3 are not.
The daft failure of the transport managers to anticipate the extra demand on bus services has led to equally daft jibes about delicate and under motivated commuters being terrified by walking through the southside when they are just poorly served by the, ahem, 'replacement services'.
I think there's not much appetite for women to cut through Queen's Park now, guess that makes them hysterical?
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 4:29pm Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]bluey[/bold] wrote:
5 stations were shut with 2 or 3 at most being walking distance meaning 2 or 3 are not. The daft failure of the transport managers to anticipate the extra demand on bus services has led to equally daft jibes about delicate and under motivated commuters being terrified by walking through the southside when they are just poorly served by the, ahem, 'replacement services'. I think there's not much appetite for women to cut through Queen's Park now, guess that makes them hysterical?[/quote]
Bluey,
If what you say is true then I find it very sad that people have let the papers dictate to them how safe or unsafe a public park is.
As sad, and tragic as the murder within Queens Park was, those who previously enjoyed walking through it should not avoid it for that reason.
Like with Kelvingrove Park, I'd like to think that a [bold]"Call For Assistance"[/bold] button with adjoined CCTV Camera could be installed ( if it hasn't already been so - or assuming one isn't already established!)
If people stopped believing the scaremongering words of the media, and started to suss out (in this case) Queens Park themselves, they'd find it's as safe as it's ever likely to be.
Just as with murders out on the streets, or potentially along from where we live the chance of them re-occurring is often rare.
And, if women are that [italic]"hysterical"[/italic] as you put it, then they can get themselves a personal attack alarm.
Ultimately the situation with these train stations being shut is a major inconvenience, but when our railway infrastructure is crumbling so much and is in need of billions of investment to bring it up to standard - Until it has real money thrown at the problems with (in this case) [italic]"collapsed mine works"[/italic] what else do people expect.
bluey wrote:
5 stations were shut with 2 or 3 at most being walking distance meaning 2 or 3 are not. The daft failure of the transport managers to anticipate the extra demand on bus services has led to equally daft jibes about delicate and under motivated commuters being terrified by walking through the southside when they are just poorly served by the, ahem, 'replacement services'. I think there's not much appetite for women to cut through Queen's Park now, guess that makes them hysterical?
Bluey,
If what you say is true then I find it very sad that people have let the papers dictate to them how safe or unsafe a public park is.
As sad, and tragic as the murder within Queens Park was, those who previously enjoyed walking through it should not avoid it for that reason.
Like with Kelvingrove Park, I'd like to think that a
"Call For Assistance" button with adjoined CCTV Camera could be installed ( if it hasn't already been so - or assuming one isn't already established!)
If people stopped believing the scaremongering words of the media, and started to suss out (in this case) Queens Park themselves, they'd find it's as safe as it's ever likely to be.
Just as with murders out on the streets, or potentially along from where we live the chance of them re-occurring is often rare.
And, if women are that
"hysterical" as you put it, then they can get themselves a personal attack alarm.
Ultimately the situation with these train stations being shut is a major inconvenience, but when our railway infrastructure is crumbling so much and is in need of billions of investment to bring it up to standard - Until it has real money thrown at the problems with (in this case)
"collapsed mine works" what else do people expect.
Posted by: teamdroid on 4:30pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Astounding. [bold]First[/bold] Bus getting praise for coming to the rescue of inadequate forward planning by [bold]First[/bold] Scotrail. They're the same bl***y company, they should be coordinated!
I knew First Group gives a few donations to Labour (which is partly why Soutar bungs to the SNP), but I didn't realise it had the Times in its pocket too. They should be getting pelters for this, not praise!
Astounding.
First Bus getting praise for coming to the rescue of inadequate forward planning by
First Scotrail. They're the same bl***y company, they should be coordinated!
I knew First Group gives a few donations to Labour (which is partly why Soutar bungs to the SNP), but I didn't realise it had the Times in its pocket too. They should be getting pelters for this, not praise!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 4:38pm Wed 23 Jul 08
teamdroid,
As I said before:
[italic]Hardly a news story.
Considering First & Scotrail are partners. This alternative arrangement should of automatically fallen into place, and First should just get on with their job.
This taking all the praise for what is effectively a non story is sickening.
What does Mark Savelli ; (Managing Director for First's bus operations in Glasgow) want ?
A gold star, pat on the head, or brownie points for doing the bear minimum in keeping services running.
Come on E.T. show us some real news stories.[/italic]
Again more plugging & promoting of a company which has the cheek to rake in the profits & do the bare minimum for its customers in return! Shocking!
teamdroid,
As I said before:
Hardly a news story.
Considering First & Scotrail are partners. This alternative arrangement should of automatically fallen into place, and First should just get on with their job.
This taking all the praise for what is effectively a non story is sickening.
What does Mark Savelli ; (Managing Director for First's bus operations in Glasgow) want ?
A gold star, pat on the head, or brownie points for doing the bear minimum in keeping services running.
Come on E.T. show us some real news stories.
Again more plugging & promoting of a company which has the cheek to rake in the profits & do the bare minimum for its customers in return! Shocking!
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 4:40pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Och Bluey, get over yourself. If there's a choice between standing round Vicky Road for half an hour and then being late for work and having to tell your boss why, or saying ballcocks to it, I'm walking then I know where I stand. Wisnae me who said that the Gorbals wants to make them turn around.
When I lived on Victoria Road, walking into town was always the first option, and I'm hardly one of your super fit types. And I still do it occasionally from out past Rutherglen where I stay now. It's good for you - for the heart and the head.
Och Bluey, get over yourself. If there's a choice between standing round Vicky Road for half an hour and then being late for work and having to tell your boss why, or saying ballcocks to it, I'm walking then I know where I stand. Wisnae me who said that the Gorbals wants to make them turn around.
When I lived on Victoria Road, walking into town was always the first option, and I'm hardly one of your super fit types. And I still do it occasionally from out past Rutherglen where I stay now. It's good for you - for the heart and the head.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 5:01pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Were the fatties who sweated all hopping on [italic]skinny[/italic] buses today though lol
[italic]More tea, Vicar?[/italic]
Were the fatties who sweated all hopping on
skinny buses today though lol
More tea, Vicar? Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 5:03pm Wed 23 Jul 08
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http://groups.yahoo.
com/group/eveningtim
esgang/
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cheers fae edna :-)
hope mer folk join ma wee et comment group, the thing is everyone enjoys being all 'anon' here but ye can still be anon if ye must , as use any yahoo email addie, to access ma wee group. and start posting, i would think yeez would aw enjoy topics, and that we could talk Glasgow and sweaty gits on buses in more depth(??)
http://groups.yahoo.
com/group/eveningtim
esgang/
the links always get all scrambled up here,anyhoo, it isnt advertising cos am not a business or a pervy web chat host in new york lol as its not a webpage nor plying for business just a message group for folk who read and post comments ere. thought it would be a good back up
cheers fae edna :-)
Posted by: pjbhoy, Glasgow on 7:19pm Wed 23 Jul 08
[quote][bold]teamdroid[/bold] wrote:
Astounding. [bold]First[/bold] Bus getting praise for coming to the rescue of inadequate forward planning by [bold]First[/bold] Scotrail. They're the same bl***y company, they should be coordinated! I knew First Group gives a few donations to Labour (which is partly why Soutar bungs to the SNP), but I didn't realise it had the Times in its pocket too. They should be getting pelters for this, not praise![/quote] What evidence do you have to suggest that First are donating to the Labour Party?
What we all know for sure there is little hope of investment in public transport from The Scottish Government after the SNP accepted Brian Souter’s cash for buses.
teamdroid wrote:
Astounding. First Bus getting praise for coming to the rescue of inadequate forward planning by First Scotrail. They're the same bl***y company, they should be coordinated! I knew First Group gives a few donations to Labour (which is partly why Soutar bungs to the SNP), but I didn't realise it had the Times in its pocket too. They should be getting pelters for this, not praise!
What evidence do you have to suggest that First are donating to the Labour Party?
What we all know for sure there is little hope of investment in public transport from The Scottish Government after the SNP accepted Brian Souter’s cash for buses.
Posted by: emma, Glasgow on 7:26pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Another NON STORY!!! same company still raking in the cash. Walk it, get on the crap buses or just walk to the next working station - its hardly rocket science is it. If you use Queen's Park, walk to Pollokshields West station - not too much for you eh? As for walking through Gorbals - hardly - its a busy road with lots of people walking on it. A fat lazy bugger like myself can walk, leisurely from Newlands to the city centre in an hour. I do that rather than give lastbus any money.
Another NON STORY!!! same company still raking in the cash. Walk it, get on the crap buses or just walk to the next working station - its hardly rocket science is it. If you use Queen's Park, walk to Pollokshields West station - not too much for you eh? As for walking through Gorbals - hardly - its a busy road with lots of people walking on it. A fat lazy bugger like myself can walk, leisurely from Newlands to the city centre in an hour. I do that rather than give lastbus any money.
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