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by Iain Lundy

THEY raise the hackles of urban and seaside dwellers like no other members of the animal kingdom. Seagulls snatch take-away food, keep people awake at night with their squawking and litter the streets with their droppings.

In Glasgow, gull numbers have boomed in the past 25 years thanks mainly to the explosion in fast-food outlets and the city council say the number of complaints about the menace birds are rising.

Beating the birds - by hawk or by crook

OVER the years many efforts have been made to curb the spread of seagulls.

Wishaw pest control firm Hawkman Services employs eight hawks and a falcon to scare away the birds.

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Last year the company employed a Harris hawk -Aurora 2 - which had hit the headlines for attacking a Yorkshire terrier as part of its seagull hit squad.

The hawk was used to scare off gulls nesting on the roof of the Royal Strathclyde Blindcraft Industries building.

In 2005 terrified council workers in Glasgow changed their route to and from work because they were being dive-bombed by gulls.

The birds had taken up residence at the junction of West George Street and Pitt Street, near Strath-clyde Police HQ.

Hawk handler David Allan became the "Birdman of Kirkintilloch" in 1990 when he took to standing on top of his garage roof with his Harris hawk to scare away gulls.

And in the 1970s and 80s birdman John Cameron and his Cameron's Commandos waged a long war with starlings that had infested the city, scaring them away from George Square with pipers and flashing lights.

In some cities they have become such a pest house prices have fallen where they congregate and residents have shot them to keep numbers down.

Attacks on humans have taken place in scenes reminiscent of Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds.

A Glasgow City Council spokesman admitted today: "Our public health unit has seen a rise in complaints about the behaviour of seagulls and some of the problems that they can cause over recent years, mainly noise, aggression, faeces and also birds disturbing refuse."

Recent incidents have shown that nothing is safe from the marauders of the sky.

At last weekend's Glasgow Show a bird of prey was chased by what onlookers described as a "gang" of up to 50 angry gulls.

The gyr falcon failed to return to its handler after it had been "dive-bombed". But it was found safely two days later on a roof at the city's Victoria Infirmary and returned to handler Gary Swainson.

At the Faslane naval base, sailors watched in astonishment as Blackie the kitten was snatched from its mother and then dropped onto a barbed wire fence by a menacing gull. The five-week-old feline required stitches to its paw.

And, in Dumfries, a couple told of how they're prisoners in their own home due to a gull nesting in their roof.

The crazed two-winged assassin swoops and excrements on Anthony and Margaret Culshaw continuously - and it's even ambushed their car. The kitten's attacker, a black-backed gull, is one of two large gull species to have moved from their traditional coastal feeding grounds to city centres.

The other - the herring gull - can grow to 27 inches long and has a maximum wing span of 63 inches, making it a fearsome predator.

Glasgow Tory MSP Bill Aitken has for years called for the spread of gulls to be controlled.

He said: "The seagulls have become much more aggressive in recent years, but the main problem is that people do not dispose of excess food properly.

"This creates a mess and also attracts the seagulls."

The situation in other towns and cities in Scotland had become so bad that earlier this year the Scottish Government held a "Seagull Summit" in badly affected Dumfries.

A government spokesman said they did not underestimate the problem but added there were no "easy and fast answers".

Environment Minister Michael Russell said: "Seagulls are a real nuisance. Last month we held a summit to discuss what can be done about the issue.

"I want to see this as a first step in helping Scottish communities find solutions to the problem."

Toby Wilson, of the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds, said: "Birds are attracted because of food sources and the more there are then the more birds will come.

"Gulls will often defend nests on top of buildings and sometimes if people are walking underneath they will swoop."

He said such incidents were "sporadic" but that there tended to be "hot spots" in towns and cities.

But the council spokesman said: "The council does not have statutory powers with which to deal with complaints.

"For example, where seagulls nest on private property, it is the responsibility of the owner to take action.

"Ultimately though, gulls will nest and breed where there is a reliable source of food.

"The council strongly discourages residents from feeding them - and will take enforcement action where we are aware of refuse that has been inappropriately disposed of."

Publication date 31/07/08


Posted by: eastendburd, glasgow on 11:11am Thu 31 Jul 08
How about more bins and regular uplifts of rubbish from our cleansing dept sorry environ operatives.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 11:14am Thu 31 Jul 08
I know they are a nuisance but didnt realise they were so aggressive and dangerous, they are meant to be at the sea ,flaoting on wtaer and eating fish, why are they all inland these days, must be a method to control their breeding and do away with them,**** rats with wings. small birds like sparrows dont even seem to jobbie, but gulls sh!t all over the place!
Posted by: Kudos, Glasgow on 11:22am Thu 31 Jul 08
CULL the GULLS it’s the only way we can get rid of them. The make a horrendous mess of our pavements, cars and buildings and they attack anyone near a food shop. Enough is enough. If this government won’t ban air guns then lets put them to good use CULL the GULLS.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:23am Thu 31 Jul 08
eastendburd wrote:
How about more bins and regular uplifts of rubbish from our cleansing dept sorry environ operatives.
Exactly... if we had clean streets with regular uplifts of discarded fast food junk, then the birds wouldn't be interested in hanging about and they would head back to the sea to be forgotten... a bit like New Labour politicians in Glasgow East!!!

--
Sydney Meriwether
"...talkin' aboot ya Rocket!"
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 11:35am Thu 31 Jul 08
liftin bags of rubbish/ crap doenst keep seagulls away ,they congretate above schools, for a wotsit fallin randomly in an playgroud its not normal!thats no the issue as they are swarming round streets causing mer hassle than hooded neds now!

and peckin at anything swirling aboot , crappin on heids, cars, scaring away other inland birds , go back to the sea ya gull mongs!

its no the 1st time ive wanted to shoot them if i had an air rifle, as I lovingly T cut ma car and the fcukers circled above .... like where is Alf Hitchcock when ye need him , all that noise they make, like a baby getting its face panned in .

Too many birds , and I like hearing quiet wee tweeting garden types- they angry bawbags dont belong here overbreeding big scabby angry mingers
Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 11:46am Thu 31 Jul 08
A good start of ridding at least George Square of Gulls and Pigeons would be to issue on the spot litter fines to those imbeciles that are feeding the vermin. Where are those litter police when you need them?
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 11:53am Thu 31 Jul 08
The council strongly discourages residents from feeding them - and will take enforcement action where we are aware of refuse that has been inappropriately disposed of.


Maybe if they started "taking enforccement action" against the b****y morons that choose to feed the sweet litle creatures, then that would be a start to dealing with the problem.

Gulls can be extremely aggresive to humans, other birds, dogs, cat or anything that movess. Just a couple of weeks ago I saw a gull dive-bombing a heron but the heron stood its ground.

Some years ago while on holiday at a popular beach resort in the south of England, I saw Council notices warning people not to feed the birds as the gulls were becoming very aggressive to any human eating a sandwich or a takeaway on the sea front.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 12:01pm Thu 31 Jul 08
The very first person to get a letter telling them not to feed the wee burdies will be up to the door of the Evening Times which will do a seven page feature toot sweet on the council being heartless to some puir wee wumman who is a victim of vicious and hard hearted political correctness gone mad. People power will be on about how this is all the fault of korprit supermarkets and sydney blurrywithers will be on about how its all the fault of the labour council and asturias will be on about how we are all despicable and edna bucket will try to get us to join her yahoo group.

I blame the nail bars and tanning parlours and amusement shops in Dumbarton Road.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 12:31pm Thu 31 Jul 08

Har har Johnny, fell off my armchair laughing at that one - NOT!

This story is yet another E.T. fruitless, pointless exercise, whereby it's just merely stating facts we've known for months, if not years.

And, with no obvious outcome, or action being taken by the spineless Council or politicians, it's another example of the "all talk no action" society we live in.

Being realistic, we'll never fully clamp down on this problem any more than littering, dog fouling, graffitti or any other offences which the "Clean Glasgow Campaign" are supposedly trying to target.

The simple facts are:
People need to want to clean up after themselves.
People need to dispose of their litter responsibly, where gulls & pigeons (etc)cannot get access to it.
People need to feel proud of their community, locality & area.
People need to stop actively feeding these vermin with wings (Pigeons & Gulls alike)

As for who forks up the bill to eradicate our feathered enemies - G.C.C. and all other City Councils must find a way to cut their numbers for health grounds as much as to stop tourists (etc) being put off coming to Glasgow.

Distroying their nests, preventing them being able to nest in certain rooftops in the first place, placing netting under railway bridges to stop pigeons roosting - nesting there.
The list of what could be done is endless.

And, YES if it comes to it poisoning them.

The only good thing about having more gulls is that they don't flock in the same huge numbers that pigeons do. And, more often than not the gulls chase the pigeons off.

Although, gulls shrill crys in the sky, and crapping from up high are far from what we want to see.

But the pigeons / rats with wings, in their flapping flocks clearly still have plentyful amounts of food, which is far from good.

But, my conclusion is that when gulls are in town, pigeon numbers go down.

So which is it to be flocks of rats with wings or flying shreiking crapping machines ?

Clearly until G.C.C. wake up and accept the need to tackle them this will just be another pointless news story which will stir up some, and pass by others. The time for talking & typing has past. Lets see some action please!
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 12:52pm Thu 31 Jul 08
So it's not the korprit supermarkets, then?
Posted by: John Kebab, Glasgow on 12:56pm Thu 31 Jul 08
The gulls must go. Their air to ground missile capability is lethal and they show no mercy when a number 2 has to be deployed.

Pigeons on the other hand are just a bit of a nuisance. They can be quite entertaining when the male does his funny dance to attract a female - and she invariably flies off.
A situation Im very familiar with every Saturday night myself!!.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 2:04pm Thu 31 Jul 08
maybe they will cook them next...

we can eat THEM isntead of them eating OOR chips at the beach!? isnt this more a story for Johnny.Morris.co.uk ? The journalists at ET must be fed up of aw the crappy stories...

did anyone happen to see Gordon Ramsays F word two nights ago, he swears a lot arrogant sod but ,lol anyway, I watched a bit of it and he caught a PUFFIN urggh what a wee shame when they snapped its neck and ripped its heid off it was kinda revolting, but anyway, but they ate it as a delicacy from a remote isle off Iceland not not the shop the place lol

It gave me the boak as I watched them prepare it but maybe seagull tastes no bad ,cooked with a couple of wee creamy bits of mash tottie and a sprig of parsley up its arse? lol
Posted by: David, Dunoon on 2:07pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Well you should see it here ' Doon the watter,' there's a neighbour out every morning at 6 feeding the blasted things, there's sh*t everywhere and now she's wondering why she's got mice, they're ( The seagulls ) are up on the rooftops waiting for their daily feed and wakening everybody for miles around. We don't like ' shoppin' anybody here, but this eedjit has got to go !
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 2:07pm Thu 31 Jul 08
People power will be on about how this is all the fault of korprit supermarkets and sydney blurrywithers will be on about how its all the fault of the labour council and asturias will be on about how we are all despicable and edna bucket will try to get us to join her yahoo group.


soz, ah missed punchyercoupons wee message there, nah I closed that group after 3 days...it was a daft idea but am glad of the menshy as i havent been in here much lately lol
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 2:08pm Thu 31 Jul 08
john kebab have a star * for the funniest comment so far!

They can be quite entertaining when the male does his funny dance to attract a female - and she invariably flies off.
A situation Im very familiar with every Saturday night myself!!.
Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 2:12pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I was just parked up near a McDonalds and there were loads of them circling about on every lamp-post , seagulls noo neds...but humans have got to eat and most folk DONT feed them and they STILL congregate where there maybe rich pickings, horrible stupid vicious things. Why do folk keep birds indoors or garden sheds as pets, I canny stand birds! eek gimme a dug any day.
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 2:41pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Poison them, poison them all!!!! We think nothing of putting poison down for rats, so why not!?

Aaaaaaaaaarghhhhh! So much so for Labour's "listening to the people" sh!te! If labour want to show they are listening, they should get all the councilors tooled up with machine guns, and led by Purcell (led by a camera!), get out onto the streets and start pumpin the b*stards fulla lead!!! That would show Labour is listening! Or better still, I'm off to email the SNP that idea... a sure vote winner!
Listen up GCC, Get the gull problem sorted!!!
Posted by: joan-joan, Glasgow on 2:44pm Thu 31 Jul 08
If people would stop dropping foood at their @rses & start using bins, then the seagulls, pigeons etc would have less to feed on. And if the council could supply bins that cant be set on fire that would be a bonus!
Posted by: Peoples Poet, Glasgow on 2:51pm Thu 31 Jul 08
so why are the ET reporting on this again? its a well know problem throughout the UK. my neighbours and i are having some terrible problems with these rats on wings. just given birth two another rat with wings a few weeks back on outr neighbours roof and the 24/7 noise is becoming unbearable. i phoned the council which was pointless then phoned the RSPBA who told me i would be prosecuted if i tried to move them on or if i killed them. not only are they attacking the neighbours they are now attacking the foxes at night time. think i'll dig out my old air rifle from the shed and put us all out of our misery. a major culling exercise is required (as well as punishing the litter louts who have given these ****** a happy feeding ground)
Posted by: Alan, West End on 3:13pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I've heard feeding them some bicarbonate of soda works a treat for getting rid of them. Only slightly messier than the gulls are in the first place.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 3:38pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Apparently the East End of the city doesn't have a problem with gull droppings. It is said the gulls fly upside down over that area as there is nothing worth sh****** on.

It we are to cull them, we should try and find descendants of St Kildans. They used to catch the blighters.

If we are looking to poison them, I am sure my wife would supply her recipe for mince.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 4:06pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Ok ...
Time to confess ...
When i lived in the high flats, I did go fishing for seagulls ...
Fishing rod,sausage on end of hook,Ma wee bull terrier loved it ...
Please forgive me ...
Posted by: sydneys resident stalker, home on 4:07pm Thu 31 Jul 08
what do you call a guy with a seagull on his head?

cliff


Posted by: sydneys resident stalker, home on 4:09pm Thu 31 Jul 08
A father was at the beach with his children when his four-year-old son ran up to him, grabbed his hand, and led him to the shore, where a seagull lay dead in the sand.

"Daddy, what happened to him?" the son asked. "He died and went to Heaven," the dad replied.

The boy thought a moment and then said, "Did God throw him back down?"







Posted by: newman, glasgow on 4:10pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Is this nu labours fault or am I getting the stories mixed up?
Posted by: sydneys resident stalker, home on 4:11pm Thu 31 Jul 08
a seagull hows it no a georgesquaregull or a refusedumpgull noo?
Posted by: raypaterson, Glasgow on 4:11pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Can anyone remember when seagulls screeching was a sound you only heard at the seaside? My backcourt sounds more like Helensburgh every day. And Yes, The unWise One, I live in the East End and these big nyaff birds hang around here too.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 4:20pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Two vultures were in the desert eating a dead clown. The first vulture asks the second vulture "does this taste funny to you ?"
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 4:27pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Seagull walking along the beach wearing sunglasses and signing autographs

"Who do you think you are" said another

"I am pretending to be that actor, Steven Seagull" he said
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 4:43pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I am waiting for Kenny McAskill to announce that the aggressive behaviour of the seagulls is due to the cheap price of alcohol. Another reason why he can increase the cost of bevvy.
Posted by: DavyMcK, ABERDEEN on 4:45pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Edna Bucket wrote:
maybe they will cook them next... we can eat THEM isntead of them eating OOR chips at the beach!? isnt this more a story for Johnny.Morris.co.uk ? The journalists at ET must be fed up of aw the crappy stories... did anyone happen to see Gordon Ramsays F word two nights ago, he swears a lot arrogant sod but ,lol anyway, I watched a bit of it and he caught a PUFFIN urggh what a wee shame when they snapped its neck and ripped its heid off it was kinda revolting, but anyway, but they ate it as a delicacy from a remote isle off Iceland not not the shop the place lol It gave me the boak as I watched them prepare it but maybe seagull tastes no bad ,cooked with a couple of wee creamy bits of mash tottie and a sprig of parsley up its arse? lol
i had Puffin the last time i was in Iceland, it was beautiful and lasted a bit like liver.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 4:57pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Chap walks into the doctor's with a seagull on his head.

"What can I do for you?" said the doctor
"Well", said the seagull. "It started off as a boil on my bum and then it just grew"
Posted by: chedwardall, glasgow on 5:23pm Thu 31 Jul 08
A man was sunbathing on a beach when a seagull crapped on him.That's disgusting he said to his friend, get me some toilet tissue quick! Don't be so stupid, said his friend, seagulls don't wipe their bums afterwards, and anyway he'll be miles away by now!
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 5:46pm Thu 31 Jul 08
the easiest thing to do here is to licence a cull on the seagulls. Decide what a humane amount of culling is, then allow licenced air gun enthusaists with police monitoring to kull gulls that fester around the fast food joints and city centre streets. Make the government subsidise the cull by making it £1.50 a seagull culled. also does thre seagull have any natural predators? and if so can they not be allowed to breed in Glasgow?
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 6:00pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Oh, come on, Live and let die ...
Posted by: raypaterson, Glasgow on 6:24pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I think the government should just ban them, that'll fix them. Failing that, tax the blighters out of existence, they are doing that to humans so why not scabby seagulls?
Posted by: SKYE, GLASGOW on 7:13pm Thu 31 Jul 08
THEY ARE "LANDGULLS" AND LIVE AND BREED ON LANDFILL SITES.THEY EAT ANYTHING FROM GARBAGE TO USED CONDOMS.THEY ARE A HEALTH HAZARD AND SPREAD DISEASE .CULLING IS NOW APPROPRIATE.
Posted by: PepsiBarker, Glasgow on 7:13pm Thu 31 Jul 08
What Glasgow needs is a couple of Peregrine Falcons and Sparrow Hawks to prey on the pidgeons and gulls that will keep the numbers down it works in New York.

Anyway its our own fault for making our building with flat roofs and ledges very similar to cliff and rockfaces at seaside and quarries.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 7:36pm Thu 31 Jul 08
somebody should go into business getting rid of these pests, the chippie where we go for a meal was bombarded with them, then the proprietor erected thin wire at a good height so that the gulls would fly into . the guy was told that was not allowed as it violates the bye law of not endangering the wild life.....so the guy advises the officer it was a wire for his big electric sign and had just paid a lot of money to have it installed.....soted!
.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 8:27pm Thu 31 Jul 08
i just had a great idea to get the neds to do away with the gulls.......gie the wee neds comunity services and make them wear a hairnet with a big handful of bird seed attatched then make them stay for 2 hours like a statue where the birds sh*t all over, and take photos to be on the front page of the papers, 2 hours a day for a month. ,,,,oh am good!(by that time the wee diddymen ,or girls will have an idea what its like to be shoit on.
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 9:07pm Thu 31 Jul 08
SKYE wrote:
THEY ARE "LANDGULLS" AND LIVE AND BREED ON LANDFILL SITES.THEY EAT ANYTHING FROM GARBAGE TO USED CONDOMS.THEY ARE A HEALTH HAZARD AND SPREAD DISEASE .CULLING IS NOW APPROPRIATE.
What are you going to cull them? I thought seagulls was an appropriate name.
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 9:41pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Nice one Trench... would love to go to see the neds getting any form of public punnishment!
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 9:45pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Funny story but,true,back in the 80"s ma pal was struting down the street brand new made to measure leather jacket(skint) It was the era of Mod revival ...
Sure enough a bold gull shat all over it ...
Pretty sure the gulls react to colour ...
Oh,It was pepermint green,3 button job ...
Posted by: 2for1, Glasgow on 9:49pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Just had a better idea.... lets kill two birds with one stone (pardon the pun!)...

Lets put the food on the Liberals and see how they like to be the victims of... well... just anything (one bonus is, with the seagulls cawing and screaching, we wont have to listen to their bile about "the human rights of xyz") and then have the neds clean all the sh*t up as a form of community punishment!

Job done, save the seagulls!
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 10:13pm Thu 31 Jul 08
roor06 wrote:
Funny story but,true,back in the 80"s ma pal was struting down the street brand new made to measure leather jacket(skint) It was the era of Mod revival ... Sure enough a bold gull shat all over it ... Pretty sure the gulls react to colour ... Oh,It was pepermint green,3 button job ...
The gulls dropping was pepermint green,3 button job ...? Unusual, must have been organic.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 10:25pm Thu 31 Jul 08
The Wise One wrote:
roor06 wrote: Funny story but,true,back in the 80"s ma pal was struting down the street brand new made to measure leather jacket(skint) It was the era of Mod revival ... Sure enough a bold gull shat all over it ... Pretty sure the gulls react to colour ... Oh,It was pepermint green,3 button job ...
The gulls dropping was pepermint green,3 button job ...? Unusual, must have been organic.
no ...
It was a more yellowish in hue ...
Pretty sure this gull ate rats ...
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 10:34pm Thu 31 Jul 08
The Wise One wrote:
roor06 wrote: Funny story but,true,back in the 80"s ma pal was struting down the street brand new made to measure leather jacket(skint) It was the era of Mod revival ... Sure enough a bold gull shat all over it ... Pretty sure the gulls react to colour ... Oh,It was pepermint green,3 button job ...
The gulls dropping was pepermint green,3 button job ...? Unusual, must have been organic.
Nice 1 ...
Ahm so stupid ...
Takes a while for the penny to drop ...
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 11:17pm Thu 31 Jul 08
david fae dunoon, bring oot yer bagpipes and gie it laldy...if you do not have a set get a c.d. of the strathclyde police band, then tell the old pest ,i like tae gie it a blaw noo and again, hope i didny frighten yer rats that ye feed every mornin cause thats what these gulls are FLYING RATS.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 12:10am Fri 1 Aug 08
Q ... Whats the diference between Rats and Kids ???
A ... Although both leave stuff all over the floor, at least a rat will stash it all into a neat pile, somewhere out of sight ,,,
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 4:41am Fri 1 Aug 08
another doctor funny....this man goes to the doctor and tells the doctor "i am not here for maself you understand its ma brother, he thinks he's an orange .oh says the doctor ...strange, where is he right now? " he is in ma pocket " says the man!
Posted by: sydneys resident stalker, home on 4:44pm Fri 1 Aug 08
proving again, aw the birds in glasgow r smelly bastards
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 3:00pm Sun 3 Aug 08
sydneys resident stalker, so YOUR THE ONE WE SEE SNIFFIN THE SMELLY BIRDS...yugh. ha ha.
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