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St Enoch's plugs into the green revolution
 
 
 
This is one of the four power points built in to the new St Enoch parking
This is one of the four power points built in to the new St Enoch parking
 

by Gordon Thomson

GLASGOW is gearing up for a green revolution by providing parking bays for drivers who use electric powered cars and bikes.

St Enoch Centre is the first city mall to offer motorists the chance to park-up and plug-in while they do their shopping.

Shopping malls set to support eco vehicles

ELECTRIC-POWERED cars make up less than half of one percent of the vehicles using Glasgow's streets They are powered by rechargeable batteries and produce no emissions.

Politicians are keen to encourage their use and rival retail malls are gearing up to follow the St Enoch example by providing parking bays for electric-powered cars.

The city council provides more than 5300 spaces at 17 off-street car parks across Glasgow.

None are dedicated to the new generation of environmentally-friendly cars but council chiefs are considering offering free parking to all-electric drivers.

A spokesman said: Electric, hybrid and other low polluting vehicles have an important role to play in reducing harmful road traffic emissions.

The council is keen to encourage their use and the provision of free or reduced rate street parking is one incentive under consideration.

And all-electric charging bays are likely to become a familiar site at other shopping centres where other multi-million pound upgrades are planned.

Glasgow Fort, Buchanan Galleries and Silverburn are all considering installing the bays while Braehead introduced two electric charging bays four months ago.

General manager Peter Beagley said: "If the demand is there, we would look at installing more charging points."

Four electrically charged bays have been created as part of a £2million upgrade of the centre's car park.

And centre bosses vowed to provide more as demand rises for all-electric and hybrid cars.

It's a green revolution which other shopping malls acoss Glasgow are expected to follow.

It is a move which is music to the ears of XFM DJ and anti-plastic bag campaigner Heather Suttie.

The Evening Times columnist said: "I think it is great that the St Enoch Centre is the first retail hub in Glasgow to offer this. The more people who use green technology the better.

"I'll be really happy if we can get more of those bays across the city."

Heather's now giving some serious thought of giving up her petrol-driven car - she already does a lot of walking - for an all-electric motorbike.

"I'm in the process of re-evaluating lots of things which can lead to a more environmental and economical lifestyle," she added.

The refurbishment of the St Enoch car park with its 750 bays is phase one of an £100m makeover by Canadian owner Ivanhoe Cambridge.

The four bays have been painted in a distinctive green and are located on the second floor.

Drivers simply park up before collecting a key and a charging cable from an attendant. The charging service is free although users will have to stump up the normal parking fee. Advanced bookings can be made.

General manager Susan Nicol said: "I'm delighted that our refurbished car park will provide a much-improved environment for our customers.

"We are exploring every opportunity to adopt initiatives which are in line with Ivanhoe Cambridge's commitment to sustainable development."

The upgrade includes better facilities for cyclists with improved lighting and signs along with new ticket machines and the introduction of CCTV cameras.

Centre managers have gone into partnership with energy supplier Gaz de France which is providing electricity from renewable sources and is working with the government-sponsored Carbon Trust to explore other green initiatives.

A new metering system will control and monitor energy levels while solar shading will control heat and minimise air conditioning.

The giant glass pyramid shopping centre which attracts 20m shoppers every year is being completely transformed.

It's being enlarged and will feature 40 new stores as well as trendy coffee bars and eateries with a cinema and a nightclub.

The facelift is due to be completed in the run-up to Christmas next year - 20 years after it opened.

Publication date 08/08/08

Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:02am Fri 8 Aug 08
So its NOT free then!
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 11:16am Fri 8 Aug 08
They only have to use those glass panels, you know, the ones that generate those ion thingys that make the car,the elecric car, move since they send a charge to the battery thingy. Wind would also suffice.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:27am Fri 8 Aug 08
Scary to think the St. Enoch has been there for nearly 20 years now....I was 12 when it opened! How time flies :(
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:29am Fri 8 Aug 08
Dont worry about it rapid .I remember the St Enoch hotel.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:40am Fri 8 Aug 08
It's great to see that the only thing Ivanhoe Cambridge has to spin is a story about big plugs: £100 million spent on destroying the city centre to satisfy the greed of overseas property developers and they've only got one 'new' business for the 40 new units (and even that 'new' business is actually on Argyle Street and not IN the centre).

As the opening deadline approaches you can imagine the incentives IC will give to get businesses into their failing enterprise - the result will be Argyle Street and Buchanan Street will turn into tacky, litter-strewn, pound-shop paradises rife with crime and grime... just like Union Street come to think of it!

--
Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 11:52am Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney, Argyle St is almost exactly like that, except for the odd advertising-dalek, leather shop and panned windows. I agree that this development won't really do much for the area in general - there are other areas that were much more in need of redevelopment.

I walked past Ortak (sp?) on my way to work yesterday and noticed that someone had taken a sledgehammer to one of the windows. Had a pretty depressing walk from the bottom of Queen St to the Union St/Argyle St cross yesterday. Firstly, I noticed that someone had emptied all the cigarette trays attached to the bins all over the ground. Then I noticed that someone had taken a sledgehammer to the windows of Ortak. Strengthened glass though so they didn't get in. Then I saw some bagpipers busking at the bottom of Buchanan St - nice enough, except there was a big lanky topless junkie trying to "conduct" them with one of their own drumsticks :|
Posted by: witterquick, Glasgow on 11:53am Fri 8 Aug 08
sigh - double posted that bit about Ortak. Thank god it's Friday
Posted by: jefstewa, govan on 12:24pm Fri 8 Aug 08
hard to believe that there putting chargers in the carpark what next jump leads so you can jump start your car. i remember the time i took my motorcycle to the car park only to be told no bikes allowed. i pay road tax like any1 else so i should be entitled to a secure place to park come on you morons at ortak invest in come motorcycle bays !!
Posted by: Scott, Airdrie on 1:21pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
It's great to see that the only thing Ivanhoe Cambridge has to spin is a story about big plugs: £100 million spent on destroying the city centre to satisfy the greed of overseas property developers and they've only got one 'new' business for the 40 new units (and even that 'new' business is actually on Argyle Street and not IN the centre). As the opening deadline approaches you can imagine the incentives IC will give to get businesses into their failing enterprise - the result will be Argyle Street and Buchanan Street will turn into tacky, litter-strewn, pound-shop paradises rife with crime and grime... just like Union Street come to think of it! -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
We should ban progress, investment and any form of improvement that gives people a better shopping environment. Let them take their chances in the rain while doging the traffic. It's up to Argyle Street and Buchanan Street to compete.

It's all Steven Purcell's fault anyway.
Posted by: zzipp67, Glasgow on 1:32pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
It's great to see that the only thing Ivanhoe Cambridge has to spin is a story about big plugs: £100 million spent on destroying the city centre to satisfy the greed of overseas property developers and they've only got one 'new' business for the 40 new units (and even that 'new' business is actually on Argyle Street and not IN the centre). As the opening deadline approaches you can imagine the incentives IC will give to get businesses into their failing enterprise - the result will be Argyle Street and Buchanan Street will turn into tacky, litter-strewn, pound-shop paradises rife with crime and grime... just like Union Street come to think of it! -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Sydney,
if you are not happy with this sugnificant expenditure in Glasfgow City Center, what exactly do you want? this is the sort of investment you are usually squealing for.

Also, I am sure that pound shops will not allow them to pay back this investment I expect the quality of stores will be excellent.
Posted by: zzipp67, Glasgow on 1:34pm Fri 8 Aug 08
jim wrote:
So its NOT free then!
The electricity is free as noted in the article or is reading a problem for you Jim?
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 1:39pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Scott wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote: It's great to see that the only thing Ivanhoe Cambridge has to spin is a story about big plugs: £100 million spent on destroying the city centre to satisfy the greed of overseas property developers and they've only got one 'new' business for the 40 new units (and even that 'new' business is actually on Argyle Street and not IN the centre). As the opening deadline approaches you can imagine the incentives IC will give to get businesses into their failing enterprise - the result will be Argyle Street and Buchanan Street will turn into tacky, litter-strewn, pound-shop paradises rife with crime and grime... just like Union Street come to think of it! -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
We should ban progress, investment and any form of improvement that gives people a better shopping environment. Let them take their chances in the rain while doging the traffic. It's up to Argyle Street and Buchanan Street to compete. It's all Steven Purcell's fault anyway.

Hey hey Scott, take it you don't like Purcell - LOL ;-)

Anyway, this expansion of and building of so many retail parks, giant new supermarkets, shopping centres etc is a joke.

Where are all these people going to find the money to shop in them, when there are "For Sale" & "To Let!" signs up on retail units & shops all over the city.

Clearly this whole expansion of St Enoch is a ploy to boost public & consumer confidence and bring them back into something freshened up, and the modernisation St Enoch badly needed.

But, and there is a but......

To coin a phrase " Money doesn't grow on trees" and the public purse is being squeezed.
Saving for Xmas is now a very real situation for people. So spending on a new wardrobe etc is not exactly the same priority anymore.

Anyway, with online shopping and swapping sites and postal catalogues to compete with for cheapness & value it's clear to see how much some shops are suffering from this economic downturn.

Sales once an enjoyable passtime to go round, raking through the bargains. Not anymore, or to the same extent.
There is no way of distinguishing the sales, or making them a treat, or occassional one off.

Reductions in competing shops are getting crazy with 75% off in some places.
Au Naturale was lucky it found a bidder to save it, and shops are closing, relocating to cheapers units etc all the time.

Argyle Street is a dump. Sauchiehall Street is far worse than it's ever been. fairground rides on it make it grotty & tacky looking.

Even Buchanan Street & Galleries have now got the competition of the new out of town Silverburn, Pollok & Forte, near Easterhouse.

Diversity may be a great thing, but when some folk do not have the same dispensable income & cash to throw around, having so many shops & shopping centres is a risky move.
Quality has to be there too, as the only alternative to that is the cheap, horrible pound stores which seem to be everywhere!
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 2:02pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Haha Sydney doesn't offer solutions or alternatives! He only offers criticism of everything and anything that happens in Glasgow. It has to be said his arguments are usually inane and once challenged he usually sulks off back under his rock knowing that his lack of intellect has agin been shown for what it is or should I say for what it's not.

Anyway enough of Sydney bating...It's too easy these days.

Seems like a good idea from St Enoch. Would be even better to see those glass panels replaced with Solar-voltaic panels. That kind of surface could produce quite significant energy. Not sure about how green EDF are though, being the largest producer of nuclear energy in Europe. ScottishPower on the other hand are the largest renewable enrgy generator in the UK (OK, yes, Longannet and Cockenzie probably don't do it's green credentials any good haha)and their owner Iberdrola the largest renewable generator in the world.

Posted by: George Square, Glasgow on 2:28pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
It's great to see that the only thing Ivanhoe Cambridge has to spin is a story about big plugs: £100 million spent on destroying the city centre to satisfy the greed of overseas property developers and they've only got one 'new' business for the 40 new units (and even that 'new' business is actually on Argyle Street and not IN the centre). As the opening deadline approaches you can imagine the incentives IC will give to get businesses into their failing enterprise - the result will be Argyle Street and Buchanan Street will turn into tacky, litter-strewn, pound-shop paradises rife with crime and grime... just like Union Street come to think of it! -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Flaming Sydney!

What insight.

Another Foolitzer Prize winning effort surely!!
Posted by: George Square, Glasgow on 2:36pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Eh? wrote:
Haha Sydney doesn't offer solutions or alternatives! He only offers criticism of everything and anything that happens in Glasgow. It has to be said his arguments are usually inane and once challenged he usually sulks off back under his rock knowing that his lack of intellect has agin been shown for what it is or should I say for what it's not. Anyway enough of Sydney bating...It's too easy these days. Seems like a good idea from St Enoch. Would be even better to see those glass panels replaced with Solar-voltaic panels. That kind of surface could produce quite significant energy. Not sure about how green EDF are though, being the largest producer of nuclear energy in Europe. ScottishPower on the other hand are the largest renewable enrgy generator in the UK (OK, yes, Longannet and Cockenzie probably don't do it's green credentials any good haha)and their owner Iberdrola the largest renewable generator in the world.
Eh, be careful it's Friday. Sydney will get all flustered and go off on you with one of his "flowery" rants that he thinks is a put down.

Flaming Sydney!
Posted by: Paul Bhoy, Glasgow on 2:41pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Well I for one will be visiting the new St Enoch centre. Only because my other half will demand I bring my bank card and take her shopping

It's just a pitty I don't have my little electric car I had when I was growing up in the eighties. The only problem I had with it was that my gran could always walk faster, even though I was going flat out.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:04pm Fri 8 Aug 08
witterquick wrote:
Sydney, Argyle St is almost exactly like that, except for the odd advertising-dalek, leather shop and panned windows. I agree that this development won't really do much for the area in general - there are other areas that were much more in need of redevelopment.

I walked past Ortak (sp?) on my way to work yesterday and noticed that someone had taken a sledgehammer to one of the windows. Had a pretty depressing walk from the bottom of Queen St to the Union St/Argyle St cross yesterday. Firstly, I noticed that someone had emptied all the cigarette trays attached to the bins all over the ground. Then I noticed that someone had taken a sledgehammer to the windows of Ortak. Strengthened glass though so they didn't get in. Then I saw some bagpipers busking at the bottom of Buchanan St - nice enough, except there was a big lanky topless junkie trying to "conduct" them with one of their own drumsticks :|
Agreed witterquick that Argyle Street is almost like Union Street just now, and considering its sad, sorry state it is no wonder that Selfridges has decided not to come to Glasgow.

The big danger for Argyle Street now is if M&S moves into the St Enoch Centre. IC is actively courting M&S, and if they do go then, Argyle Street - shocking though it is just now - will be finished as a shopping destination, a result of the rampant greed of overseas corporate investors, aided-and-abetted by the self-serving 'incompetence' of vain, short-sighted, puffed-up city councillors.

In the longer-term, Glasgow's problems are much more widespread, as recent surveys have shown that retail spending trends in this city are woefully trailing both Edinburgh and Aberdeen... regardless of 'investments' made to tacky malls, in the end the lack of a strategic, balanced investment plan to overhaul our whole retail infrastructure will lead to Glasgow disappearing as a credible shopping destination in the UK.

--
Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Posted by: George Square, Glasgow on 3:22pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
witterquick wrote: Sydney, Argyle St is almost exactly like that, except for the odd advertising-dalek, leather shop and panned windows. I agree that this development won't really do much for the area in general - there are other areas that were much more in need of redevelopment. I walked past Ortak (sp?) on my way to work yesterday and noticed that someone had taken a sledgehammer to one of the windows. Had a pretty depressing walk from the bottom of Queen St to the Union St/Argyle St cross yesterday. Firstly, I noticed that someone had emptied all the cigarette trays attached to the bins all over the ground. Then I noticed that someone had taken a sledgehammer to the windows of Ortak. Strengthened glass though so they didn't get in. Then I saw some bagpipers busking at the bottom of Buchanan St - nice enough, except there was a big lanky topless junkie trying to "conduct" them with one of their own drumsticks :|
Agreed witterquick that Argyle Street is almost like Union Street just now, and considering its sad, sorry state it is no wonder that Selfridges has decided not to come to Glasgow. The big danger for Argyle Street now is if M&S moves into the St Enoch Centre. IC is actively courting M&S, and if they do go then, Argyle Street - shocking though it is just now - will be finished as a shopping destination, a result of the rampant greed of overseas corporate investors, aided-and-abetted by the self-serving 'incompetence' of vain, short-sighted, puffed-up city councillors. In the longer-term, Glasgow's problems are much more widespread, as recent surveys have shown that retail spending trends in this city are woefully trailing both Edinburgh and Aberdeen... regardless of 'investments' made to tacky malls, in the end the lack of a strategic, balanced investment plan to overhaul our whole retail infrastructure will lead to Glasgow disappearing as a credible shopping destination in the UK. -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Flaming Sydney!

"will lead to Glasgow disappearing as a credible shopping destination in the UK"

What inshight !!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:47pm Fri 8 Aug 08
zzipp67 wrote:
jim wrote:
So its NOT free then!
The electricity is free as noted in the article or is reading a problem for you Jim?
Probably not for Jim, but obviously writing is well beyond your very narrow 'skill set' zzipp67:
Sydney,
if you are not happy with this sugnificant expenditure in Glasfgow City Center...

What a donkey... you can't even spell Glasgow... do us all a favour and hoof it back to nursery school!!!

--
Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Posted by: People Power, Glesgae on 4:23pm Fri 8 Aug 08

Sydney,

throwing in my tuppence worth,

But, surely even you must be getting bored of this petty drivel & continuous slagging, what exactly is there to be gained from it ?

All I can say is that when it sinks to slagging the arguement has clearly been lost, or given up on. Even I admit to slagging folk & Purcell off, but without more general jokes it just keeps folk away from commenting.

This idea of parking bays for electric powered cars in basically another gimmick to lure customers who use such cars in.

But, as Eh? says they could go so much further with the St Enoch Centre, with as he/she puts it:
glass panels replaced with Solar-voltaic panels. That kind of surface could produce quite significant energy. Not sure about how green EDF are though, being the largest producer of nuclear energy in Europe.


Perhaps wind turbines could also be provided for the visiting councillors & MSP's who provide enough hot air rants ( including Sydneys) which could be harnessed to power the national grid.
Posted by: Eh?, Glasgow on 4:29pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney time to change your moniker to 'one of Glasgow's most pointless posters' i think. Again no attempt at a coherent argumnet. Could it be you have no argument and lack the intellect and guile to construct one?

Just a pointless playground rant at someone picking up again on a spelling mistake. Do I need to explain again the difference between a mistake and an error?

Off you go Sydney, back under your rock for the weekend
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:43pm Fri 8 Aug 08
People Power wrote:

Sydney,

throwing in my tuppence worth,

But, surely even you must be getting bored of this petty drivel & continuous slagging, what exactly is there to be gained from it ?

All I can say is that when it sinks to slagging the arguement has clearly been lost, or given up on. Even I admit to slagging folk & Purcell off, but without more general jokes it just keeps folk away from commenting.

This idea of parking bays for electric powered cars in basically another gimmick to lure customers who use such cars in.

But, as Eh? says they could go so much further with the St Enoch Centre, with as he/she puts it:
glass panels replaced with Solar-voltaic panels. That kind of surface could produce quite significant energy. Not sure about how green EDF are though, being the largest producer of nuclear energy in Europe.


Perhaps wind turbines could also be provided for the visiting councillors & MSP's who provide enough hot air rants ( including Sydneys) which could be harnessed to power the national grid.
And your point is?

--
Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 5:02pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Here's the latest appalling retail figures for John Lewis, from the Scotsman last week:
Sales fell at all three of John Lewis's Scottish stores, with Glasgow reporting an 18 per cent drop, Aberdeen down 14.2 per cent and 5.5 per cent in Edinburgh.

So Glasgow sales for this benchmark store were down by nearly a fifth in a period of already falling sales: that's sales falling more than 3X faster than in Edinburgh.

Against this background, is it any wonder then that IC has only found 'new' store to open in (actually outside) the St Enoch Centre... not much for a £100million 'investment'!

Tum-tee-tum...

--
Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Posted by: 6pence, glasgow on 5:10pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney - am I missing something, the St Enoch Centre is not opening it's new store till Autum next year, the Raw store on Argyle street is not affected by the development which is at the St Enoch Square end so it can open sooner, that is why it is advertised butI think they will have other names in the bag and will release those nearer the time. Why don't you wait till then and then apologise to all who have had to listen to this drivel non-stop from you. This story is about their refurbished car park not the centre. You silly old fool.
Posted by: George Square, Glasgow on 6:42pm Fri 8 Aug 08
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Here's the latest appalling retail figures for John Lewis, from the Scotsman last week:
Sales fell at all three of John Lewis's Scottish stores, with Glasgow reporting an 18 per cent drop, Aberdeen down 14.2 per cent and 5.5 per cent in Edinburgh.
So Glasgow sales for this benchmark store were down by nearly a fifth in a period of already falling sales: that's sales falling more than 3X faster than in Edinburgh. Against this background, is it any wonder then that IC has only found 'new' store to open in (actually outside) the St Enoch Centre... not much for a £100million 'investment'! Tum-tee-tum... -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Flaming Sydney!

More inshight , or perhaps more to the point more SYDSHIGHT .
Posted by: jefstewa, govan on 7:24pm Fri 8 Aug 08
more to the point am i going to be able to park my motorbike in the car park???
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 8:18am Sun 10 Aug 08
zzipp67 wrote:
jim wrote: So its NOT free then!
The electricity is free as noted in the article or is reading a problem for you Jim?
Still Parking Charge !Still not free.Or is reading a problem with you!END.
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