Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 1:07pm Fri 22 Aug 08
No doubt First ScotRail will start crowing in their newsletter on about how much of "their" money they have invested in making their stations more accessible when in fact it's been obtained via rail privatisation's crazy money merrygoround - i.e. the taxpayer.
Makes my blood boil!
No doubt First ScotRail will start crowing in their newsletter on about how much of "their" money they have invested in making their stations more accessible when in fact it's been obtained via rail privatisation's crazy money merrygoround - i.e. the taxpayer.
Makes my blood boil!
Posted by: Southside, Giffnock on 1:43pm Fri 22 Aug 08
To date.....
all i've seen first scotrail do (since they took over from SPT) is stick their logo on our glasgow trains and paint a few train stations white. Transformiing transport.... or maybe not.
To date.....
all i've seen first scotrail do (since they took over from SPT) is stick their logo on our glasgow trains and paint a few train stations white. Transformiing transport.... or maybe not.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 2:06pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Hardly enough in the bigger picture of things by First Scotrail. This is merely a gesture, and does far less than First Scotrail could for disabled travellers.
Where is the point on using the train to travel if farless stations you may wish to board / dismount at have disabled access to them.
Railway stations in and around Glasgow are a lottery of whether they may ormay not have adequate access to them. It is a disgrace.
Even the fact that Glasgows Subways run by SPT do not have disabled access - lifts is shocking in this day and age.
If Glasgow is to get itsself ready for the 2014 Commonwealth Games we must do far more to ensure all of our railway stations, and public transport facilities are fully accessable, and provide adequate assistance to people with all forms of disabilities. Visual impairments, physical disabilities, even basic first aid provision. ( i.e. defibrillators - why not?)
Hardly enough in the bigger picture of things by First Scotrail. This is merely a gesture, and does far less than First Scotrail could for disabled travellers.
Where is the point on using the train to travel if farless stations you may wish to board / dismount at have disabled access to them.
Railway stations in and around Glasgow are a lottery of whether they may ormay not have adequate access to them. It is a disgrace.
Even the fact that Glasgows Subways run by SPT do not have disabled access - lifts is shocking in this day and age.
If Glasgow is to get itsself ready for the 2014 Commonwealth Games we must do far more to ensure all of our railway stations, and public transport facilities are fully accessable, and provide adequate assistance to people with all forms of disabilities. Visual impairments, physical disabilities, even basic first aid provision. ( i.e. defibrillators - why not?)
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 3:00pm Fri 22 Aug 08
People power ,I agree .
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 3:10pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Thanks Jim.
Its just sad that Glasgow in comparison to other main European cities still lags so far behind.
Compare us to Amsterdam, Paris and oter cities accross Europe and we're a laughing stock & a joke.
We really need to push forwards into the 21st Century and show that we're serious about providing for our disabled citizens alike.
What must other European visitors think when they see how far behind we are with our public transport infrastructure. Shocking!
Thanks Jim.
Its just sad that Glasgow in comparison to other main European cities still lags so far behind.
Compare us to Amsterdam, Paris and oter cities accross Europe and we're a laughing stock & a joke.
We really need to push forwards into the 21st Century and show that we're serious about providing for our disabled citizens alike.
What must other European visitors think when they see how far behind we are with our public transport infrastructure. Shocking!
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:02pm Fri 22 Aug 08
So everyone's agreed - this is a brutal and cynical exercise by an evil government bent on destroying the fabric of civilisation. Those responsible should be hunted down by an outraged mob of villages carrying burning torches and pitchforks.
What will visitors from foreign parts think if Carnwadric railway station doesn't have a single defibrilator, never mind the ten or twenty that are standard in even the meanest railway halt in Grenoble, Klaipeda or Bilbao? Doesn't bear thinking about!!!
So everyone's agreed - this is a brutal and cynical exercise by an evil government bent on destroying the fabric of civilisation. Those responsible should be hunted down by an outraged mob of villages carrying burning torches and pitchforks.
What will visitors from foreign parts think if Carnwadric railway station doesn't have a single defibrilator, never mind the ten or twenty that are standard in even the meanest railway halt in Grenoble, Klaipeda or Bilbao? Doesn't bear thinking about!!!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 10:00pm Fri 22 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Johnny Punchclock[/bold] wrote:
So everyone's agreed - this is a brutal and cynical exercise by an evil government bent on destroying the fabric of civilisation. Those responsible should be hunted down by an outraged mob of villages carrying burning torches and pitchforks. What will visitors from foreign parts think if Carnwadric railway station doesn't have a single defibrilator, never mind the ten or twenty that are standard in even the meanest railway halt in Grenoble, Klaipeda or Bilbao? Doesn't bear thinking about!!! [/quote]
Aye, Johnny - nice touch of sarcasm there to lighten the air. LOL ;-)
maybe idealism, and fantasies are as much as we can ever hope for ( in our minds) as the reality of any positive refurbishment coming to our railway infrastructures is too good to be true.
First Scotrail & SPT alike are only interested in lining the pockets of their shareholders & management / directors.
And, the government are doing little or nothing to see that their disgusting profit margins are at an acceptable level, before they are forced to have them re-invested within the stations which so badly need it.
The disabled folk of Glasgow may as well just sit and look longingly out to an idealistic landscape, and dream of travelling on ourfirst rate, top quality railways / trains.
Our subway is a "toy - town" train service.
And our overground trains are a joke.
Finally, only when we have an airport rail link fit for the 21st century can we begin to call ourself a city which can pride itself in its quality railways and comes up to the expectations of its tourists.
Sorry, what were you saying Johnny ?
Johnny Punchclock wrote:
So everyone's agreed - this is a brutal and cynical exercise by an evil government bent on destroying the fabric of civilisation. Those responsible should be hunted down by an outraged mob of villages carrying burning torches and pitchforks. What will visitors from foreign parts think if Carnwadric railway station doesn't have a single defibrilator, never mind the ten or twenty that are standard in even the meanest railway halt in Grenoble, Klaipeda or Bilbao? Doesn't bear thinking about!!!
Aye, Johnny - nice touch of sarcasm there to lighten the air. LOL ;-)
maybe idealism, and fantasies are as much as we can ever hope for ( in our minds) as the reality of any positive refurbishment coming to our railway infrastructures is too good to be true.
First Scotrail & SPT alike are only interested in lining the pockets of their shareholders & management / directors.
And, the government are doing little or nothing to see that their disgusting profit margins are at an acceptable level, before they are forced to have them re-invested within the stations which so badly need it.
The disabled folk of Glasgow may as well just sit and look longingly out to an idealistic landscape, and dream of travelling on ourfirst rate, top quality railways / trains.
Our subway is a "toy - town" train service.
And our overground trains are a joke.
Finally, only when we have an airport rail link fit for the 21st century can we begin to call ourself a city which can pride itself in its quality railways and comes up to the expectations of its tourists.
Sorry, what were you saying Johnny ?
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 9:38am Sat 23 Aug 08
The disabled folk of Glasgow may as well just sit and look longingly out to an idealistic landscape, and dream of travelling on ourfirst rate, top quality railways / trains.
The disabled folk of Glasgow may as well just sit and look longingly out to an idealistic landscape, and dream of travelling on ourfirst rate, top quality railways / trains.
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 9:40am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote]The disabled folk of Glasgow may as well just sit and look longingly out to an idealistic landscape, and dream of travelling on ourfirst rate, top quality railways / trains.[/quote] ...noses pressed aganst the steamed up window of their Variety Club coach, according to the patronising image you portray.
The disabled folk of Glasgow may as well just sit and look longingly out to an idealistic landscape, and dream of travelling on ourfirst rate, top quality railways / trains.
...noses pressed aganst the steamed up window of their Variety Club coach, according to the patronising image you portray.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 5:39pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Make up your mind Johnny, which one is it - you either quote me as if in agreement,
or you then quote me & then snub my comment.
Bit fickle are we not ?
Not so much patronising, as pointing out the truth of the matter - that until First Scotrail & SPT alike get their butts in gear & seriously invest in all railways / subway stations those who have disabilities will continue to struggle with travelling when they shouldn't.
Make up your mind Johnny, which one is it - you either quote me as if in agreement,
or you then quote me & then snub my comment.
Bit fickle are we not ?
Not so much patronising, as pointing out the truth of the matter - that until First Scotrail & SPT alike get their butts in gear & seriously invest in all railways / subway stations those who have disabilities will continue to struggle with travelling when they shouldn't.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 10:38am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
Make up your mind Johnny, which one is it - you either quote me as if in agreement, or you then quote me & then snub my comment. Bit fickle are we not ? Not so much patronising, as pointing out the truth of the matter - that until First Scotrail & SPT alike get their butts in gear & seriously invest in all railways / subway stations those who have disabilities will continue to struggle with travelling when they shouldn't. [/quote] Fair enough point but SPT now has nothing to do with the trains anymore thanks to the 2005 Railways Act when responsibility for these functions passed back from the PTEs to the Department of Transport/Transport Scotland.
It's all about a bunch of politicians playing at trains whilst lining the pockets of private operators who are guaranteed a profit thanks to the ludicrousness of the franchising system.
Then the biggest laugh of the lot - Alex Salmond promising to take Scotland's railways back into the public sector then once he's in power he extends First ScotRail's franchise.
What a bloody joke!!!!!!!
People Power wrote:
Make up your mind Johnny, which one is it - you either quote me as if in agreement, or you then quote me & then snub my comment. Bit fickle are we not ? Not so much patronising, as pointing out the truth of the matter - that until First Scotrail & SPT alike get their butts in gear & seriously invest in all railways / subway stations those who have disabilities will continue to struggle with travelling when they shouldn't.
Fair enough point but SPT now has nothing to do with the trains anymore thanks to the 2005 Railways Act when responsibility for these functions passed back from the PTEs to the Department of Transport/Transport Scotland.
It's all about a bunch of politicians playing at trains whilst lining the pockets of private operators who are guaranteed a profit thanks to the ludicrousness of the franchising system.
Then the biggest laugh of the lot - Alex Salmond promising to take Scotland's railways back into the public sector then once he's in power he extends First ScotRail's franchise.
What a bloody joke!!!!!!!
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 11:01am Mon 25 Aug 08
Hiya RapidAssistant,
Realise SPT has nothing to do with trains, just sidetracking a bit, as I know that Glasgows Subway is also a disgrace when it comes to accessability & probably breaching the D.D.A.
If Glasgow is to have a good all round Public Transport Service then interchanges like Partick where trains, subways & buses all link up - the provision of lifts etc must be put in place.
Thankfully Partick is being demolished & re-built, but you can bet SPT won't be spending a penny on anything too sensible.
Nah - they prefer poets on the subway!
Or WIFI technology to wid up even more commuters who wish to travel in peace or without mobiles & laptops being brought into the subway ?
As for Politicians, Alex Salmond or whoever their all a joke - and those who take any of them seriously - especially with pre - election spin / promises are idiots!
NEVER BELIEVE A WORD OF WHAT POLITICIANS SAY! ! !
Hiya RapidAssistant,
Realise SPT has nothing to do with trains, just sidetracking a bit, as I know that Glasgows Subway is also a disgrace when it comes to accessability & probably breaching the D.D.A.
If Glasgow is to have a good all round Public Transport Service then interchanges like Partick where trains, subways & buses all link up - the provision of lifts etc must be put in place.
Thankfully Partick is being demolished & re-built, but you can bet SPT won't be spending a penny on anything too sensible.
Nah - they prefer poets on the subway!
Or WIFI technology to wid up even more commuters who wish to travel in peace or without mobiles & laptops being brought into the subway ?
As for Politicians, Alex Salmond or whoever their all a joke - and those who take any of them seriously - especially with pre - election spin / promises are idiots!
NEVER BELIEVE A WORD OF WHAT POLITICIANS SAY! ! !
Posted by: Southside, Giffnock on 1:45pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Agreed with everything being said and to summarise, we need better transport and not token gestures from a multi-million pounds company like First - a company which appears to pocket from Glasgow and the West, being the biggest users of public transport.
If one wonders down to Mount Florida train station - why does the passenger lift stop short of street level?
Agreed with everything being said and to summarise, we need better transport and not token gestures from a multi-million pounds company like First - a company which appears to pocket from Glasgow and the West, being the biggest users of public transport.
If one wonders down to Mount Florida train station - why does the passenger lift stop short of street level?
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