Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:10am Mon 25 Aug 08
Here we go again... yet another [bold]ill-conceived, badly-planned, knee-jerk shot-in-the-dark[/bold] which - according to expert opinion worldwide - will actually make the problem worse by driving sex workers underground where they will be even more vulnerable and even less protected.
[italic]Do the fools at Glasgow City Council sit up all weekend thinking about how to make the lives of the most vulnerable in this city even more painful?[/italic]
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic]
Here we go again... yet another
ill-conceived, badly-planned, knee-jerk shot-in-the-dark which - according to expert opinion worldwide - will actually make the problem worse by driving sex workers underground where they will be even more vulnerable and even less protected.
Do the fools at Glasgow City Council sit up all weekend thinking about how to make the lives of the most vulnerable in this city even more painful?
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority." Posted by: Heidthebaw, Glasgow on 11:19am Mon 25 Aug 08
If this nonsense ever made it into law, someone could do more time for visiting a massage parlour than selling drugs or GBH....
Haven't we more pressing crimes to be sorting out ?
I doubt many women do this because they want to, so where will they get money if the council are successful in their plans ?
Funding to help get them out of it will be minimal, so I can only see this generating more crime as desperate women turn to thieving etc to raise money.
Another loopy scheme from a crusading council.
If this nonsense ever made it into law, someone could do more time for visiting a massage parlour than selling drugs or GBH....
Haven't we more pressing crimes to be sorting out ?
I doubt many women do this because they want to, so where will they get money if the council are successful in their plans ?
Funding to help get them out of it will be minimal, so I can only see this generating more crime as desperate women turn to thieving etc to raise money.
Another loopy scheme from a crusading council.
Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 11:55am Mon 25 Aug 08
I don't know if the council can pull this off, but it could be a great blow to Glasgows sex tourism industry. At least Meep should be happy.
I don't know if the council can pull this off, but it could be a great blow to Glasgows sex tourism industry. At least Meep should be happy.
Posted by: fredo, paisley on 2:35pm Mon 25 Aug 08
THERE IS NO DANGER OF THIS HAPPENING BECAUSE ITS THE COUNCILLORS AND POLITICIANS THAT USE THIS INDUSTRY AND THE GIRLS WHO PROVIDE THE SERVICE ARE MAINLY DRUG DEPENDANT SO THEY WILL NOT GIVE THIS UP
THERE IS NO DANGER OF THIS HAPPENING BECAUSE ITS THE COUNCILLORS AND POLITICIANS THAT USE THIS INDUSTRY AND THE GIRLS WHO PROVIDE THE SERVICE ARE MAINLY DRUG DEPENDANT SO THEY WILL NOT GIVE THIS UP
Posted by: I Predict A Riot, Glasgow on 2:40pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Ann Wilson, who heads the city's community safety services, said: "Sexual exploitation is completely unacceptable so we're doing what we can to tackle the demand.
Surely it's the men who are being exploited:-(
Ann Wilson, who heads the city's community safety services, said: "Sexual exploitation is completely unacceptable so we're doing what we can to tackle the demand.
Surely it's the men who are being exploited:-(
Posted by: Hoof Hearted, GlasVegas on 4:08pm Mon 25 Aug 08
I think prostitution should be free for ugly folk.
If you are ugly, and I mean ugly (sydney meriwhether ugly), then you should get prostitution on the NHS.
I think prostitution should be free for ugly folk.
If you are ugly, and I mean ugly (sydney meriwhether ugly), then you should get prostitution on the NHS.
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 4:31pm Mon 25 Aug 08
You'd only get that on the BUPA. On the NHS they just give you a speciality magazine and draw the screens...
Poor Sydney...
[italic]"The unacceptable face of Glasgow's silent majority"[/italic]
You'd only get that on the BUPA. On the NHS they just give you a speciality magazine and draw the screens...
Poor Sydney...
"The unacceptable face of Glasgow's silent majority" Posted by: albertz78, city center on 4:57pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote]Glasgow council chiefs want to target men who pay sex workers who operate from city flats, saunas or brothels.[/quote] I'm sure that these establishments are up to date with their rates and council tax.Doesn't that make the GCC pimps and ponces?
Glasgow council chiefs want to target men who pay sex workers who operate from city flats, saunas or brothels.
I'm sure that these establishments are up to date with their rates and council tax.Doesn't that make the GCC pimps and ponces?
Posted by: albertz78, city center on 5:39pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote]Glasgow has yet to indicate when it plans to lobby the Scottish Government for the powers needed for a crackdown on men who pay for sex.[/quote] Lobby parliament my arse, they'll just phone McAskill who will issue puritanical edicts regarding prostitution and alcohol but continue to reap the benefits from his targets,council tax from brothels, business rates from saunas and pubs,fixed penalty notices from the frequenters.
Glasgow has yet to indicate when it plans to lobby the Scottish Government for the powers needed for a crackdown on men who pay for sex.
Lobby parliament my arse, they'll just phone McAskill who will issue puritanical edicts regarding prostitution and alcohol but continue to reap the benefits from his targets,council tax from brothels, business rates from saunas and pubs,fixed penalty notices from the frequenters.
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 6:13pm Mon 25 Aug 08
time effort and money wasted on this would be better used trying to catch the perpetrators of the rapes and sexual assaults being committed on a daily basis in the glasgow area,instead of trying to push prostitutes and their clients into the seedy underworld of glasgow.
if the council wants to do something why not the way amsterdam has found,clean tax paying prostitutes in clean safe parlours.
time effort and money wasted on this would be better used trying to catch the perpetrators of the rapes and sexual assaults being committed on a daily basis in the glasgow area,instead of trying to push prostitutes and their clients into the seedy underworld of glasgow.
if the council wants to do something why not the way amsterdam has found,clean tax paying prostitutes in clean safe parlours.
Posted by: Joe Shmo, Glasgow on 6:22pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Tam-m. I concur.
But thats too sensible for the cooncil. Only ideas generated by nuggets are considered.
Tam-m. I concur.
But thats too sensible for the cooncil. Only ideas generated by nuggets are considered.
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 6:39pm Mon 25 Aug 08
A Swedish delegation of police and government officials is due to visit Glasgow in a few months to resume talks following earlier discussions this year.
---speaks for its self---i take it earlier this year some councillors had a free outing to sweden to discuss this.if this falls through perhaps they will go to the bahamas to see how they deal with prostitution over there.
at the tax payers expense of course.
A Swedish delegation of police and government officials is due to visit Glasgow in a few months to resume talks following earlier discussions this year.
---speaks for its self---i take it earlier this year some councillors had a free outing to sweden to discuss this.if this falls through perhaps they will go to the bahamas to see how they deal with prostitution over there.
at the tax payers expense of course.
Posted by: chedwardall, glasgow on 6:41pm Mon 25 Aug 08
If men want to pay for sex that's their business.
If men want to pay for sex that's their business.
Posted by: Roy Batty, Glasgow on 7:37pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[italic]If men want to pay for sex that's their business.[/italic]
Is it fek!!!
If men want to pay for sex that's their business.
Is it fek!!!
Posted by: fredo, paisley on 7:38pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]tam-m[/bold] wrote:
A Swedish delegation of police and government officials is due to visit Glasgow in a few months to resume talks following earlier discussions this year. ---speaks for its self---i take it earlier this year some councillors had a free outing to sweden to discuss this.if this falls through perhaps they will go to the bahamas to see how they deal with prostitution over there. at the tax payers expense of course.[/quote] AND A BET THEY ALL VISITED THE LOCAL BROTH POT AND GOT AN ALL EXPENSES SHOT
tam-m wrote:
A Swedish delegation of police and government officials is due to visit Glasgow in a few months to resume talks following earlier discussions this year. ---speaks for its self---i take it earlier this year some councillors had a free outing to sweden to discuss this.if this falls through perhaps they will go to the bahamas to see how they deal with prostitution over there. at the tax payers expense of course.
AND A BET THEY ALL VISITED THE LOCAL BROTH POT AND GOT AN ALL EXPENSES SHOT
Posted by: The Wise One, Glasgow on 10:26pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[bold]Glasgow council chiefs want to target men who pay sex workers who operate from city flats, saunas or brothels.[/bold]
What about all the men who pay for sex and don't get any, i.e. married men.
The only reason men go looking for women is that they haven't found a good looking sheep. Instead of cloning them, why don't they spend the money trying to improve their looks.
Glasgow council chiefs want to target men who pay sex workers who operate from city flats, saunas or brothels.
What about all the men who pay for sex and don't get any, i.e. married men.
The only reason men go looking for women is that they haven't found a good looking sheep. Instead of cloning them, why don't they spend the money trying to improve their looks.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 3:04am Tue 26 Aug 08
" Crackdown " - sooooooo funny ...
As usual,
Any port ...
" Crackdown " - sooooooo funny ...
As usual,
Any port ...
Posted by: HGlasgwegian, Glasgow on 1:41pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Sydney I strongly suggest you look at the Swedish experience with an open mind.
Many people think they are being progressive and liberal by supporting the decriminaliastion of prostitution. But the Swedish approach has not only drastically reduced the numbers of people engaged in street prostitution it has also reduced trafficking.
In Amsterdam by contrast the majority of prostitutes are foreigners with no identity papers - in other words they have been trafficked.
You will never eliminate trafficking just as you will never eliminate prostitution. But you still have a choice between making it easy and making it hard.
Sydney I strongly suggest you look at the Swedish experience with an open mind.
Many people think they are being progressive and liberal by supporting the decriminaliastion of prostitution. But the Swedish approach has not only drastically reduced the numbers of people engaged in street prostitution it has also reduced trafficking.
In Amsterdam by contrast the majority of prostitutes are foreigners with no identity papers - in other words they have been trafficked.
You will never eliminate trafficking just as you will never eliminate prostitution. But you still have a choice between making it easy and making it hard.
Posted by: HGlasgwegian, Glasgow on 1:50pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Tam and Joe Schmo - you have a somewhat romanticised view of Amsterdam.
The mayor of Amsterdam is reconsidering legal prostitution, claiming that it had not successfully protected it's 'sex workers'. Rather than the popular perception of independent happy hookers the evidence is that prostitution in Amsterdam is still controlled by crimonals.
That is why they have shut down much of the red light district, just keeping a few streets for the tourists.
Tam and Joe Schmo - you have a somewhat romanticised view of Amsterdam.
The mayor of Amsterdam is reconsidering legal prostitution, claiming that it had not successfully protected it's 'sex workers'. Rather than the popular perception of independent happy hookers the evidence is that prostitution in Amsterdam is still controlled by crimonals.
That is why they have shut down much of the red light district, just keeping a few streets for the tourists.
Posted by: GAW, Glasgow UK on 3:32pm Tue 26 Aug 08
A typcially arse-for-tit approach buy the Council and Police.
The women are [bold]not[/bold] selling sex because men wish to buy it.
They are selling their bodies [bold]because they are addicted to heroin[/bold] .
Criminalising men will not break the cycle of heroin addiction ---> need money ---> sell body.
But, then the Cooncil and Polis never let the facts/reality get in the way of their tokenism, do they?
A typcially arse-for-tit approach buy the Council and Police.
The women are
not selling sex because men wish to buy it.
They are selling their bodies
because they are addicted to heroin .
Criminalising men will not break the cycle of heroin addiction ---> need money ---> sell body.
But, then the Cooncil and Polis never let the facts/reality get in the way of their tokenism, do they?
Posted by: tam-m, southside on 8:10pm Tue 26 Aug 08
HGlasgwegian, Glasgow on 1:50pm today
pros are going to ply their trade no matter what, so by allowing it in massage parlours or licensed brothels they can keep an eye on whats happening.the police would then be free to allocate more time to finding the forced prossies ..not a perfect solution but forcing pros and their punters into the underworld puts both in a dangerous environment.opening both parties up to abuse and violence.
i am not advocating prostitution but i think they deserve a realm of safety to ply their trade.
oth
HGlasgwegian, Glasgow on 1:50pm today
pros are going to ply their trade no matter what, so by allowing it in massage parlours or licensed brothels they can keep an eye on whats happening.the police would then be free to allocate more time to finding the forced prossies ..not a perfect solution but forcing pros and their punters into the underworld puts both in a dangerous environment.opening both parties up to abuse and violence.
i am not advocating prostitution but i think they deserve a realm of safety to ply their trade.
oth
Posted by: Aggie Bagwash, glasgow on 11:18pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Men will always go looking for sex, asking innocent women in the street "How much" and hassling youngsters...cos there are plenty of pervs out there...prostitution is here to stay and we should be licensing it..monitor the clients to protect the women...
Men will always go looking for sex, asking innocent women in the street "How much" and hassling youngsters...cos there are plenty of pervs out there...prostitution is here to stay and we should be licensing it..monitor the clients to protect the women...
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