Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 10:29am Tue 9 Sep 08
Trade away & radiate!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 10:50am Tue 9 Sep 08
So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks, just like the horrendous and costly failure that is the Briggait.
If the [bold]fickle, feckless fools who mismanage our decrepit council[/bold] wish to do the dirty work of the foreign investment capitalists who own the St Enoch centre, then they should do it in their own time and not add yet another disastrous financial burden around the necks of already struggling local taxpayers.
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic]
So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks, just like the horrendous and costly failure that is the Briggait.
If the
fickle, feckless fools who mismanage our decrepit council wish to do the dirty work of the foreign investment capitalists who own the St Enoch centre, then they should do it in their own time and not add yet another disastrous financial burden around the necks of already struggling local taxpayers.
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority." Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 11:27am Tue 9 Sep 08
I am sure all the rabid right wing commentators who havent even stepped foot in Glasgow (never mind Paddy's) will be applauding this economic ethnic cleasning of Paddy's Market. What the council is doing is trying to erase a part of Glasgow history and culture at the expense of the mosr poorest and vulnerable people in the city. This goes against everything that the Labour party represents and stands for. I'll make a prediction: when the council takes over the market the stalls and units they will go unused and they will lie empty (which is what the council wants). Also the crime rate will rise and become unpredictable due to the dispertion of repeat offenders. At least at Paddys it could be contained and controlled, but once Paddy's closes all those vulnerable people will be unleashed on the city centre with no rhyme or reason. [bold]Glasgow council will rue the day they closed Paddy's...[/bold]
I am sure all the rabid right wing commentators who havent even stepped foot in Glasgow (never mind Paddy's) will be applauding this economic ethnic cleasning of Paddy's Market. What the council is doing is trying to erase a part of Glasgow history and culture at the expense of the mosr poorest and vulnerable people in the city. This goes against everything that the Labour party represents and stands for. I'll make a prediction: when the council takes over the market the stalls and units they will go unused and they will lie empty (which is what the council wants). Also the crime rate will rise and become unpredictable due to the dispertion of repeat offenders. At least at Paddys it could be contained and controlled, but once Paddy's closes all those vulnerable people will be unleashed on the city centre with no rhyme or reason.
Glasgow council will rue the day they closed Paddy's... Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:35am Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks, just like the horrendous and costly failure that is the Briggait. If the [bold]fickle, feckless fools who mismanage our decrepit council[/bold] wish to do the dirty work of the foreign investment capitalists who own the St Enoch centre, then they should do it in their own time and not add yet another disastrous financial burden around the necks of already struggling local taxpayers. -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic] [/quote] And when did the Briggait (as a shopping mall) fail?? 18 YEARS AGO to be exact and since then we've had Braehead (success), the Buchanan Galleries (success), Glasgow Fort (success) and Silverburn will also probably follow suit. Get back into the 21st Century!
As for the "dirty investment capitalists" - like them or loathe them I am sure there would be far more grotty holes in this city's landscape than there is at present without them.
But hey ho, as usual someone comes along trying to clear the detritus caused by mistakes of the past and all you can do is shoot it down in flames. Yawn!
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks, just like the horrendous and costly failure that is the Briggait. If the fickle, feckless fools who mismanage our decrepit council wish to do the dirty work of the foreign investment capitalists who own the St Enoch centre, then they should do it in their own time and not add yet another disastrous financial burden around the necks of already struggling local taxpayers. -- Sydney Meriwether "The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."
And when did the Briggait (as a shopping mall) fail?? 18 YEARS AGO to be exact and since then we've had Braehead (success), the Buchanan Galleries (success), Glasgow Fort (success) and Silverburn will also probably follow suit. Get back into the 21st Century!
As for the "dirty investment capitalists" - like them or loathe them I am sure there would be far more grotty holes in this city's landscape than there is at present without them.
But hey ho, as usual someone comes along trying to clear the detritus caused by mistakes of the past and all you can do is shoot it down in flames. Yawn!
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Briggait on 11:40am Tue 9 Sep 08
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused.
[quote]Been down Union Street lately?[/quote]
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic]
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused.
Been down Union Street lately?
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority." Posted by: Happy Harry, Glasgow on 11:52am Tue 9 Sep 08
So basically what your saying Meeks is that Paddys Market should be left as it is as it provides somewhere convient for repeat offender criminals to hang out.
Some people who live in Glasgow actually have some pride in the city and want to see it improve. But they'll always be people like yourself who prefer to wallow in self pity and rose tinted nostalgia and object to anything that involves change.
This was announced about a year ago and so far 500 people have signed a petition objecting. Purcell must be sh!tting himself with that level of public outrage.
So basically what your saying Meeks is that Paddys Market should be left as it is as it provides somewhere convient for repeat offender criminals to hang out.
Some people who live in Glasgow actually have some pride in the city and want to see it improve. But they'll always be people like yourself who prefer to wallow in self pity and rose tinted nostalgia and object to anything that involves change.
This was announced about a year ago and so far 500 people have signed a petition objecting. Purcell must be sh!tting himself with that level of public outrage.
Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 11:54am Tue 9 Sep 08
I feel a little saddened by the impending loss of Paddy's market. Although it may be a 'crime ridden midden', most of the criminality I see is of the intellectual property theft variety and I have never felt threatened or intimidated in my many wanderings around it. I know a lot of drug offences were commited in the area, but it's unlikely the closing of the market will reduce this. I can't help but feel that the type of criminality that the council are trying to eradicate with the closing of the market, will simply move closer to the city centre. At least with Paddy's open, you knew where the drug dealers, Pirate DVD sellers and untaxed tobacco barons were operating from. Coming soon to a street near you.
I feel a little saddened by the impending loss of Paddy's market. Although it may be a 'crime ridden midden', most of the criminality I see is of the intellectual property theft variety and I have never felt threatened or intimidated in my many wanderings around it. I know a lot of drug offences were commited in the area, but it's unlikely the closing of the market will reduce this. I can't help but feel that the type of criminality that the council are trying to eradicate with the closing of the market, will simply move closer to the city centre. At least with Paddy's open, you knew where the drug dealers, Pirate DVD sellers and untaxed tobacco barons were operating from. Coming soon to a street near you.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:55am Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused. [quote]Been down Union Street lately?[/quote] -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic] [/quote] And that is not all the fault of the Labour council....those private investors who chucked their own hard won cash at it hoping that it'd pay off also are to blame.
But hey that's their mistake and misjudgement for trying to turn the place into something it just wasn't meant to be. I seem to recall that Princes Square, St Enoch and The Forge all opened around the same time and all went on to be extended in some way or another.
That's what private enterprise is all about - sometimes you don't know until you try and at least they gave it a go. Greedy and hard nosed these people may be - indeed - but without them you don't create wealth from within and have to rely more and more on handouts from local authorites. Which costs us all money.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused. Been down Union Street lately?
-- Sydney Meriwether "The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."
And that is not all the fault of the Labour council....those private investors who chucked their own hard won cash at it hoping that it'd pay off also are to blame.
But hey that's their mistake and misjudgement for trying to turn the place into something it just wasn't meant to be. I seem to recall that Princes Square, St Enoch and The Forge all opened around the same time and all went on to be extended in some way or another.
That's what private enterprise is all about - sometimes you don't know until you try and at least they gave it a go. Greedy and hard nosed these people may be - indeed - but without them you don't create wealth from within and have to rely more and more on handouts from local authorites. Which costs us all money.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:56am Tue 9 Sep 08
HH, if that damp squib was aimed at me then I'm not answering it until you learn the difference between "your" and you're"!
[italic]... with your obvious lack of English qualifications, you're not wee 'Maggie' Purcell by any chance?[/italic]
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic]
HH, if that damp squib was aimed at me then I'm not answering it until you learn the difference between "your" and you're"!
... with your obvious lack of English qualifications, you're not wee 'Maggie' Purcell by any chance?
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority." Posted by: Asturias, Glasgow on 12:09pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Yet another example of Goebels style journalism from the Evening Times. In order to be consistent the ET should have ran a similar campaign for the closure of Victoria Road due to the crime caused by residents of local homeless hostels.
Paddy's market has been the victim of twisted and distorted propaganda. Those residents of the local homeless hostels will just take their criminality elsewhere. In fact the crime figures quoted are from around the area so most of this is that nothing to do with Paddy's market.
What we have seen is opportunism by a corrupt local council backed up by its toady tabloid rag.
Yet another example of Goebels style journalism from the Evening Times. In order to be consistent the ET should have ran a similar campaign for the closure of Victoria Road due to the crime caused by residents of local homeless hostels.
Paddy's market has been the victim of twisted and distorted propaganda. Those residents of the local homeless hostels will just take their criminality elsewhere. In fact the crime figures quoted are from around the area so most of this is that nothing to do with Paddy's market.
What we have seen is opportunism by a corrupt local council backed up by its toady tabloid rag.
Posted by: Big Al, Glasgow on 12:18pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[bold]Sydney wrote:[/bold]
[quote]So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks...[/quote]
Last year the council spent:
- £80,000 cleaning the area (taxpayers money)
- £30,000 trading standards officers (taxpayers money)
- £95,000 Strathclyde Police (taxpayers money)
- £42,000 HM Customs and Excise (taxpayers money)
- £30,000 Federation Against Copyright Theft (capitalist record companies money?)
Irrespective of what you think about Paddy's Market, it is already hugely expensive and costing the taxpayers money: £247,000.
That cannot go on - however, I just wish the council gave the traders a bit more of a chance to take ownership of the area and let them work to improve the market and surrounding area. If that didn't work, then close it down.
Sydney wrote:
So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks...
Last year the council spent:
- £80,000 cleaning the area (taxpayers money)
- £30,000 trading standards officers (taxpayers money)
- £95,000 Strathclyde Police (taxpayers money)
- £42,000 HM Customs and Excise (taxpayers money)
- £30,000 Federation Against Copyright Theft (capitalist record companies money?)
Irrespective of what you think about Paddy's Market, it is already hugely expensive and costing the taxpayers money: £247,000.
That cannot go on - however, I just wish the council gave the traders a bit more of a chance to take ownership of the area and let them work to improve the market and surrounding area. If that didn't work, then close it down.
Posted by: Asturias, Glasgow on 12:27pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Big Al[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Sydney wrote:[/bold] [quote]So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks...[/quote] Last year the council spent: - £80,000 cleaning the area (taxpayers money) - £30,000 trading standards officers (taxpayers money) - £95,000 Strathclyde Police (taxpayers money) - £42,000 HM Customs and Excise (taxpayers money) - £30,000 Federation Against Copyright Theft (capitalist record companies money?) Irrespective of what you think about Paddy's Market, it is already hugely expensive and costing the taxpayers money: £247,000. That cannot go on - however, I just wish the council gave the traders a bit more of a chance to take ownership of the area and let them work to improve the market and surrounding area. If that didn't work, then close it down.[/quote] DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THESE FIGURES ?
[bold]THESE FIGURES ARE A CONFLATION : THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO SPEND MOST OF THAT MONEY WHETHER PADDYS IS THERE OR NOT.
YOU HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN. THE ET AND THE COUNCIL ARE BIASED[/bold]
Big Al wrote:
Sydney wrote: So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks...
Last year the council spent: - £80,000 cleaning the area (taxpayers money) - £30,000 trading standards officers (taxpayers money) - £95,000 Strathclyde Police (taxpayers money) - £42,000 HM Customs and Excise (taxpayers money) - £30,000 Federation Against Copyright Theft (capitalist record companies money?) Irrespective of what you think about Paddy's Market, it is already hugely expensive and costing the taxpayers money: £247,000. That cannot go on - however, I just wish the council gave the traders a bit more of a chance to take ownership of the area and let them work to improve the market and surrounding area. If that didn't work, then close it down.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THESE FIGURES ?
THESE FIGURES ARE A CONFLATION : THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO SPEND MOST OF THAT MONEY WHETHER PADDYS IS THERE OR NOT.
YOU HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN. THE ET AND THE COUNCIL ARE BIASED Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 12:41pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[bold]Asturias wrote:[/bold] [quote]THE ET AND THE COUNCIL ARE BIASED[/quote] Shome mishtake, shurely?
Asturias wrote: THE ET AND THE COUNCIL ARE BIASED
Shome mishtake, shurely?
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:41pm Tue 9 Sep 08
"taxpayers money" X5
Big Al, did they not teach you about the apostrophe at the recent "How to pass yourself off as a concerned citizen on the ET comments' pages" council seminar?
Shame on you, you're giving the council a bad name!
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic]
"taxpayers money" X5
Big Al, did they not teach you about the apostrophe at the recent "How to pass yourself off as a concerned citizen on the ET comments' pages" council seminar?
Shame on you, you're giving the council a bad name!
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority." Posted by: Big Al, Glasgow on 12:51pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
"taxpayers money" X5
Big Al, did they not teach you about the apostrophe at the recent "How to pass yourself off as a concerned citizen on the ET comments' pages" council seminar?
Shame on you, you're giving the council a bad name!
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic] [/quote] Well, you have obviously learned how to avoid the issues/questions during your recent "How to be a Politician" course. Big Steven Purcell will be proud.
I take it by the fact that you could only dispute the apostrophe, then you agree that either way you look at it, Paddy's Market is costing the taxpayers money.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
"taxpayers money" X5
Big Al, did they not teach you about the apostrophe at the recent "How to pass yourself off as a concerned citizen on the ET comments' pages" council seminar?
Shame on you, you're giving the council a bad name!
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."
Well, you have obviously learned how to avoid the issues/questions during your recent "How to be a Politician" course. Big Steven Purcell will be proud.
I take it by the fact that you could only dispute the apostrophe, then you agree that either way you look at it, Paddy's Market is costing the taxpayers money.
Posted by: gordyboy, glasgow on 1:40pm Tue 9 Sep 08
why oh why should anyone care if this hovel is closed unless you do not have an altenative dealer for your valium or cheap chinese fags ???
why oh why should anyone care if this hovel is closed unless you do not have an altenative dealer for your valium or cheap chinese fags ???
Posted by: gordyboy, glasgow on 1:42pm Tue 9 Sep 08
If people feel so strongly about the articles in the evening times don't read it go away and do something just as useless like reading the big issue .....
If people feel so strongly about the articles in the evening times don't read it go away and do something just as useless like reading the big issue .....
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:38pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Make that "taxpayers money" [bold]X6[/bold]
Not learning from your mistakes and not denying you work for the decrepit council... come on let's hear it again taxpayer...
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic]
Make that "taxpayers money"
X6
Not learning from your mistakes and not denying you work for the decrepit council... come on let's hear it again taxpayer...
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority." Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 2:46pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Actually Sydney the last 'taxpayers money' that Big Al typed was puncuated correctly, since it was the taxpayers (plural) money and not the taxpayer's (belonging to) money. Glad to straighten things out.
Yours pedantically,
TTA
Actually Sydney the last 'taxpayers money' that Big Al typed was puncuated correctly, since it was the taxpayers (plural) money and not the taxpayer's (belonging to) money. Glad to straighten things out.
Yours pedantically,
TTA
Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 2:50pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Oh god nooooo! I missed out the 't' in punctuated, leaving a clear comeback for a witty retort.
Oh god nooooo! I missed out the 't' in punctuated, leaving a clear comeback for a witty retort.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:53pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]The thinking alternative[/bold] wrote:
Actually Sydney the last 'taxpayers money' that Big Al typed was puncuated correctly, since it was the taxpayers (plural) money and not the taxpayer's (belonging to) money. Glad to straighten things out.
Yours pedantically,
TTA[/quote] Good point TTA and clearly you are living up to your moniker!
However the phrase can be interpreted both ways, so I chose to 'err' on the side of Big Al's demonstrated stupidity.
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic]
The thinking alternative wrote:
Actually Sydney the last 'taxpayers money' that Big Al typed was puncuated correctly, since it was the taxpayers (plural) money and not the taxpayer's (belonging to) money. Glad to straighten things out.
Yours pedantically,
TTA
Good point TTA and clearly you are living up to your moniker!
However the phrase can be interpreted both ways, so I chose to 'err' on the side of Big Al's demonstrated stupidity.
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Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority." Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 2:56pm Tue 9 Sep 08
I grew up in Bridgegate in 60s and from what i gather most folk cant wait to see the back of old paddys and thats a huge cross section of people,
I grew up in Bridgegate in 60s and from what i gather most folk cant wait to see the back of old paddys and thats a huge cross section of people,
Posted by: generationx, Glasgow on 3:05pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Can we not do the same with the market as we should do with Sydney? Just ignore it and hope it goes away?
Can we not do the same with the market as we should do with Sydney? Just ignore it and hope it goes away?
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 3:29pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Steve Inch, the council's executive director of development and regeneration, said: "It is anticipated the council can positively raise the profile of the area over the next five years."
He said Paddy's could have a number of different uses in the future including a new street market under the control of the council's arms length company City Markets.
Is that Steve Inch for real 5 years to right the place red tape must be somewhere or they will have to sort out who earns what from whom, and what are they going to do about the hostal round the corner where all jacobites who give paddy"s a bad name live and plaque the place.BIG AL must be talking about these figures for the jacobites but shut paddy"s and they"ll move across the road and another thing the fecking high court sits there doesn"tseem to bother the judges or the polis or the customs who attend every day
Steve Inch, the council's executive director of development and regeneration, said: "It is anticipated the council can positively raise the profile of the area over the next five years."
He said Paddy's could have a number of different uses in the future including a new street market under the control of the council's arms length company City Markets.
Is that Steve Inch for real 5 years to right the place red tape must be somewhere or they will have to sort out who earns what from whom, and what are they going to do about the hostal round the corner where all jacobites who give paddy"s a bad name live and plaque the place.BIG AL must be talking about these figures for the jacobites but shut paddy"s and they"ll move across the road and another thing the fecking high court sits there doesn"tseem to bother the judges or the polis or the customs who attend every day
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 4:28pm Tue 9 Sep 08
"In 2005/06 there were 314 drug possession cases in the market area, 268 breaches of the peace, 29 robberies, 96 thefts, 89 assaults, 46 cases of police assault and resisting arrest and one attempted murder.
If you believe this crap your as daft as a labour voter.Please specify the market area where these offences took place ie street names etc.
Thought not.As it is a total misrepresentation of of crimes commited in the market. HEY BUT WHAT DOES THE LABOUR CONTROLLED ET CARE ABOUT FACTS.
Strathclyde Police incurred costs of £95,000, HM Customs and Excise £42,000 and the Federation Against Copyright Theft £30,000.
Have these fools nothing better to do than chase after a few dodgy dvd,s.Pathetic.
"In 2005/06 there were 314 drug possession cases in the market area, 268 breaches of the peace, 29 robberies, 96 thefts, 89 assaults, 46 cases of police assault and resisting arrest and one attempted murder.
If you believe this crap your as daft as a labour voter.Please specify the market area where these offences took place ie street names etc.
Thought not.As it is a total misrepresentation of of crimes commited in the market. HEY BUT WHAT DOES THE LABOUR CONTROLLED ET CARE ABOUT FACTS.
Strathclyde Police incurred costs of £95,000, HM Customs and Excise £42,000 and the Federation Against Copyright Theft £30,000.
Have these fools nothing better to do than chase after a few dodgy dvd,s.Pathetic.
Posted by: Hoof Hearted, GlasVegas on 4:28pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The thinking alternative[/bold] wrote: Actually Sydney the last 'taxpayers money' that Big Al typed was puncuated correctly, since it was the taxpayers (plural) money and not the taxpayer's (belonging to) money. Glad to straighten things out. Yours pedantically, TTA[/quote] Good point TTA and clearly you are living up to your moniker! However the phrase can be interpreted both ways, so I chose to 'err' on the side of Big Al's demonstrated stupidity. -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic] [/quote] Poor Sydney, you'll need to clean your computer monitor. You'll have red pen marks all over the screen what with all the spelling and punctuation errors.
Here's one for you to cricle. Enjoy.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
The thinking alternative wrote: Actually Sydney the last 'taxpayers money' that Big Al typed was puncuated correctly, since it was the taxpayers (plural) money and not the taxpayer's (belonging to) money. Glad to straighten things out. Yours pedantically, TTA
Good point TTA and clearly you are living up to your moniker! However the phrase can be interpreted both ways, so I chose to 'err' on the side of Big Al's demonstrated stupidity. -- Sydney Meriwether "The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."
Poor Sydney, you'll need to clean your computer monitor. You'll have red pen marks all over the screen what with all the spelling and punctuation errors.
Here's one for you to cricle. Enjoy.
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 5:02pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]ex labour voter[/bold] wrote:
"In 2005/06 there were 314 drug possession cases in the market area, 268 breaches of the peace, 29 robberies, 96 thefts, 89 assaults, 46 cases of police assault and resisting arrest and one attempted murder. If you believe this crap your as daft as a labour voter.Please specify the market area where these offences took place ie street names etc. Thought not.As it is a total misrepresentation of of crimes commited in the market. HEY BUT WHAT DOES THE LABOUR CONTROLLED ET CARE ABOUT FACTS. Strathclyde Police incurred costs of £95,000, HM Customs and Excise £42,000 and the Federation Against Copyright Theft £30,000. Have these fools nothing better to do than chase after a few dodgy dvd,s.Pathetic. [/quote] Well said, probably very few were inside the market i"ve never seen a breach or the peace never mind an assault or theft and the drugs are sold outside right under a cctv camera.THESE figures are for the city centre so get it right ET or talk about real issues ie corruption in the cooncil where everythings for free for the choosen ones
ex labour voter wrote:
"In 2005/06 there were 314 drug possession cases in the market area, 268 breaches of the peace, 29 robberies, 96 thefts, 89 assaults, 46 cases of police assault and resisting arrest and one attempted murder. If you believe this crap your as daft as a labour voter.Please specify the market area where these offences took place ie street names etc. Thought not.As it is a total misrepresentation of of crimes commited in the market. HEY BUT WHAT DOES THE LABOUR CONTROLLED ET CARE ABOUT FACTS. Strathclyde Police incurred costs of £95,000, HM Customs and Excise £42,000 and the Federation Against Copyright Theft £30,000. Have these fools nothing better to do than chase after a few dodgy dvd,s.Pathetic.
Well said, probably very few were inside the market i"ve never seen a breach or the peace never mind an assault or theft and the drugs are sold outside right under a cctv camera.THESE figures are for the city centre so get it right ET or talk about real issues ie corruption in the cooncil where everythings for free for the choosen ones
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 5:18pm Tue 9 Sep 08
I've never ventured inside Shipbank Lane when the market was on - it all seemed very seedy and a bit risky. Probably rife with bugs, too.
But then I couldn't care less about [italic]the banter[/italic] and the rubbish instant nostalgia that seems to motivate so many of the old farts who [italic]simply adore[/italic] anachronisms like this horrible thing.
Clear it all out with a bulldozer and transport the parasites who infest it in a skip off to some volcano somewhere in the South Pacific.
I've never ventured inside Shipbank Lane when the market was on - it all seemed very seedy and a bit risky. Probably rife with bugs, too.
But then I couldn't care less about
the banter and the rubbish instant nostalgia that seems to motivate so many of the old farts who
simply adore anachronisms like this horrible thing.
Clear it all out with a bulldozer and transport the parasites who infest it in a skip off to some volcano somewhere in the South Pacific.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:34pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Ethnic Cleansing for Multi-Culturalism
Johnny Punchclock clearly hates the irish - maybe because, after all its called Paddy's
[quote]Clear it all out with a bulldozer and transport the parasites who infest it in a skip off to some volcano somewhere in the South Pacific.[/quote]
The traders have done no wrong but are being severley persecuted.
Glasgow is becoming very foreign to me anyway.
Probably in a few years time, things like MIne n Tatties and Fish n Chips will be for nostagic airheads too.
Rule Britannia HA HA HA HA HA HA - feckin joke!
Ethnic Cleansing for Multi-Culturalism
Johnny Punchclock clearly hates the irish - maybe because, after all its called Paddy's
Clear it all out with a bulldozer and transport the parasites who infest it in a skip off to some volcano somewhere in the South Pacific.
The traders have done no wrong but are being severley persecuted.
Glasgow is becoming very foreign to me anyway.
Probably in a few years time, things like MIne n Tatties and Fish n Chips will be for nostagic airheads too.
Rule Britannia HA HA HA HA HA HA - feckin joke!
Posted by: Brad on 5:37pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Are Glasgow's "silenced majority" really most concerned with the proper use of punctuation?
This is a revelation worthy of an ET front page splash.
Are Glasgow's "silenced majority" really most concerned with the proper use of punctuation?
This is a revelation worthy of an ET front page splash.
Posted by: Brad on 5:38pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote]MIne n Tatties[/quote]
TMC, you had better watch you don't run into a group of the silenced majority down a dark lane - they'll be wanting a word with you...
MIne n Tatties
TMC, you had better watch you don't run into a group of the silenced majority down a dark lane - they'll be wanting a word with you...
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 5:41pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Bring back fredo where"s he gaun to???any youse clipes know or does sam the bam want to make a statement???????????
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Bring back fredo where"s he gaun to???any youse clipes know or does sam the bam want to make a statement???????????
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Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:55pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
[quote]MIne n Tatties[/quote] TMC, you had better watch you don't run into a group of the silenced majority down a dark lane - they'll be wanting a word with you...[/quote] ****! Yes Brad, the joys of typing too fast - I had noticed a few were getting roasted for their punctuation and grammatical efforts.
Probablty half of Glasgow can hardly read, write or spell - zombies who know nothing - imagine being like that eh!
The silenced majority should go on a riot, instead of continually taking it up the arse - As long as it ain't down Shipbank Lane, the darlings down George Square way have blatantly neglected the place for years and it looks like something from a Thomas Annan picture.
DISEASE AND DEATH
CHRISTALMIGHTY, what am I saying here? lol
I'm meant to be sticking up for the old place, well I am, pity the council couldn't do that like 20 years ago - too interested in the Briggait and free swally (courtesy of the legendary Pat Swally)
This is soon to be trnsformed (Including the removal of its cast iron detail that holds the roof together) so I wonder how long it will be before it collapses so Purcell can get one of his mates in to build a big scheme full of Penthouses?
See it for yourself at Future Glasgow dot co dot uk - ha ha (did I blatantly forget those full stops?)
Brad wrote:
MIne n Tatties
TMC, you had better watch you don't run into a group of the silenced majority down a dark lane - they'll be wanting a word with you...
****! Yes Brad, the joys of typing too fast - I had noticed a few were getting roasted for their punctuation and grammatical efforts.
Probablty half of Glasgow can hardly read, write or spell - zombies who know nothing - imagine being like that eh!
The silenced majority should go on a riot, instead of continually taking it up the arse - As long as it ain't down Shipbank Lane, the darlings down George Square way have blatantly neglected the place for years and it looks like something from a Thomas Annan picture.
DISEASE AND DEATH
CHRISTALMIGHTY, what am I saying here? lol
I'm meant to be sticking up for the old place, well I am, pity the council couldn't do that like 20 years ago - too interested in the Briggait and free swally (courtesy of the legendary Pat Swally)
This is soon to be trnsformed (Including the removal of its cast iron detail that holds the roof together) so I wonder how long it will be before it collapses so Purcell can get one of his mates in to build a big scheme full of Penthouses?
See it for yourself at Future Glasgow dot co dot uk - ha ha (did I blatantly forget those full stops?)
Posted by: hugo, south side on 6:21pm Tue 9 Sep 08
I agree that this is an unsightly ned infested, outlet for stolen goods and other dodgy merchandise.
However, GCC council should be working with people who have legitimate businesses in this area to ensure that they survive and prosper. A heavy handed approach is in nobodies best interest.
I agree that this is an unsightly ned infested, outlet for stolen goods and other dodgy merchandise.
However, GCC council should be working with people who have legitimate businesses in this area to ensure that they survive and prosper. A heavy handed approach is in nobodies best interest.
Posted by: jan409, Glasgow on 6:29pm Tue 9 Sep 08
A few years back I was a regular customer at Paddy's.
To be honest, with all the £1 shops,charity shops, and Blochairn car boot sale and others...do we have a need for Paddy's anymore...?
Methinks it has had it's day...
A few years back I was a regular customer at Paddy's.
To be honest, with all the £1 shops,charity shops, and Blochairn car boot sale and others...do we have a need for Paddy's anymore...?
Methinks it has had it's day...
Posted by: Taisri, GLASGOW on 6:33pm Tue 9 Sep 08
Having read through some of the comments I have to my say, Paddy's Market is a wonderful place to visit and shop, I've been going there for years, I've even had tourists stopping me in the street asking me direction, so it's all bad, I don't think so, the market traders are a great bunch so helpful, pleasant and friendly, I as a tax payer I wish them well for the future.
Having read through some of the comments I have to my say, Paddy's Market is a wonderful place to visit and shop, I've been going there for years, I've even had tourists stopping me in the street asking me direction, so it's all bad, I don't think so, the market traders are a great bunch so helpful, pleasant and friendly, I as a tax payer I wish them well for the future.
Posted by: lavalamp, coatbridge on 7:08pm Tue 9 Sep 08
the people who support the market are ignoring the facts and fiqures.........get rid of the scum i dont mean the council i mean the stall holders.
the people who support the market are ignoring the facts and fiqures.........get rid of the scum i dont mean the council i mean the stall holders.
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 9:19pm Tue 9 Sep 08
[quote][bold]lavalamp[/bold] wrote:
the people who support the market are ignoring the facts and fiqures.........get rid of the scum i dont mean the council i mean the stall holders.[/quote] how would you know??get the freedom of information act to tell you exactly where these crimes were committed lavy brush
lavalamp wrote:
the people who support the market are ignoring the facts and fiqures.........get rid of the scum i dont mean the council i mean the stall holders.
how would you know??get the freedom of information act to tell you exactly where these crimes were committed lavy brush
Posted by: cee, Glasgow on Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Big Al[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Sydney wrote:[/bold] [quote]So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks...[/quote] Last year the council spent: - £80,000 cleaning the area (taxpayers money) - £30,000 trading standards officers (taxpayers money) - £95,000 Strathclyde Police (taxpayers money) - £42,000 HM Customs and Excise (taxpayers money) - £30,000 Federation Against Copyright Theft (capitalist record companies money?) Irrespective of what you think about Paddy's Market, it is already hugely expensive and costing the taxpayers money: £247,000. That cannot go on - however, I just wish the council gave the traders a bit more of a chance to take ownership of the area and let them work to improve the market and surrounding area. If that didn't work, then close it down.[/quote] I take it you're one of Matheson's luvvies if you happen to have all those figures conveniently to hand.
For the record, the traders at Paddy's pay full business rates to the council that total alot more than those figures quoted. They also pay cleansing bills on top of those.
£95k on policing in the area? Are you kidding - its Paddy's traders who constantly contact the absent police informing them of the crime which is generated from Hope House.
We should be more concerned about the dodgy land deal done by Labour and the eleven Labour councillors currently being investigated by the Standards Commission for their less than honest dealings connected with obtaining the land from Network Rail - www.fan-hitter.co.uk
/news
www.savepaddys.org - sign the petition now - this is not just about a market - its about preserving a community that has served our city well for 150 years!
Big Al wrote:
Sydney wrote: So the council is saddling Glasgow taxpayers with yet another hugely expensive albatross around our necks...
Last year the council spent: - £80,000 cleaning the area (taxpayers money) - £30,000 trading standards officers (taxpayers money) - £95,000 Strathclyde Police (taxpayers money) - £42,000 HM Customs and Excise (taxpayers money) - £30,000 Federation Against Copyright Theft (capitalist record companies money?) Irrespective of what you think about Paddy's Market, it is already hugely expensive and costing the taxpayers money: £247,000. That cannot go on - however, I just wish the council gave the traders a bit more of a chance to take ownership of the area and let them work to improve the market and surrounding area. If that didn't work, then close it down.
I take it you're one of Matheson's luvvies if you happen to have all those figures conveniently to hand.
For the record, the traders at Paddy's pay full business rates to the council that total alot more than those figures quoted. They also pay cleansing bills on top of those.
£95k on policing in the area? Are you kidding - its Paddy's traders who constantly contact the absent police informing them of the crime which is generated from Hope House.
We should be more concerned about the dodgy land deal done by Labour and the eleven Labour councillors currently being investigated by the Standards Commission for their less than honest dealings connected with obtaining the land from Network Rail - www.fan-hitter.co.uk
/news
www.savepaddys.org - sign the petition now - this is not just about a market - its about preserving a community that has served our city well for 150 years!
Posted by: cee, Glasgow on 12:09am Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]SPAMALOT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]lavalamp[/bold] wrote: the people who support the market are ignoring the facts and fiqures.........get rid of the scum i dont mean the council i mean the stall holders.[/quote] how would you know??get the freedom of information act to tell you exactly where these crimes were committed lavy brush[/quote] I have seen the figures - there is no difference between the number of crimes committed during and outwith trading hours of the market!
The figures speak for themselves yet the ET is so in the pocket of Labour's thuggish machine that they just won't publish them!
SPAMALOT wrote:
lavalamp wrote: the people who support the market are ignoring the facts and fiqures.........get rid of the scum i dont mean the council i mean the stall holders.
how would you know??get the freedom of information act to tell you exactly where these crimes were committed lavy brush
I have seen the figures - there is no difference between the number of crimes committed during and outwith trading hours of the market!
The figures speak for themselves yet the ET is so in the pocket of Labour's thuggish machine that they just won't publish them!
Posted by: cee, Glasgow on 12:11am Wed 10 Sep 08
[bold]If you want to help save Paddy's then get down to the city chambers and shout loudly at 11am on Friday - this is when Labour councillors hope to ratify there deal to close Paddy's - this is about democracy as well as keeping a 150year old tradition and community alive![/bold]
If you want to help save Paddy's then get down to the city chambers and shout loudly at 11am on Friday - this is when Labour councillors hope to ratify there deal to close Paddy's - this is about democracy as well as keeping a 150year old tradition and community alive! Posted by: cee, Glasgow on 12:13am Wed 10 Sep 08
[bold]www.savepaddys.org[/bold] -sign the online petition now!
www.savepaddys.org -sign the online petition now!
Posted by: Titus a duxas, Ft.McMurray on 3:06am Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused.
[quote]Been down Union Street lately?[/quote]
--
Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic] [/quote] Oooooohhhhh you said a bad wurd
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused.
Been down Union Street lately?
--
Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."
Oooooohhhhh you said a bad wurd
Posted by: Titus a duxas, Ft.McMurray on 3:08am Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused.
[quote]Been down Union Street lately?[/quote]
--
Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."[/italic] [/quote] Oooooohhhhh you said a bad wurd
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
The Briggait has had more money pumped into it than Fanny Mae and still it sits lonely and unused.
Been down Union Street lately?
--
Sydney Meriwether
"The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority."
Oooooohhhhh you said a bad wurd
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