Posted by: Edna Bucket, Interweb on 10:58am Wed 10 Sep 08
sickening ,these thugs need caught and quickly
sickening ,these thugs need caught and quickly
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 10:58am Wed 10 Sep 08
From last night's ET
[quote]It is understood the attackers had been hassling other passengers earlier in the evening.[/quote]
So why was no action taken then???
From last night's ET
It is understood the attackers had been hassling other passengers earlier in the evening.
So why was no action taken then???
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:01am Wed 10 Sep 08
St George's Cross is a hell hole - a pure jungle with dodgy underpasses and pathways that sneak under the West Graham St Flyover
All thanks to the progress of the 60's - we have today principal areas for rape, robbery and serious assault.
Of course, you look at the undergrowth which the council doesn't know about, the place is littered with dirty needles, tin foil and lots of empty cans - hidden from public view
St George's Cross is a visual eyesore - end of.
St George's Cross is a hell hole - a pure jungle with dodgy underpasses and pathways that sneak under the West Graham St Flyover
All thanks to the progress of the 60's - we have today principal areas for rape, robbery and serious assault.
Of course, you look at the undergrowth which the council doesn't know about, the place is littered with dirty needles, tin foil and lots of empty cans - hidden from public view
St George's Cross is a visual eyesore - end of.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:32am Wed 10 Sep 08
Theres a few stations like Cowcaddens similar.Needs investment ,hope the woman will be ok.
Theres a few stations like Cowcaddens similar.Needs investment ,hope the woman will be ok.
Posted by: emceehammer, west midlands on 11:45am Wed 10 Sep 08
Too many neds who have been spawned by alkies/junkie single parents hanging around that station.On the whole,Glasgow is an embarrassment and full of tramps and thieves like these-Glad I had the sense to get my young children to feck outta the city I once loved and grew up in-it is a cesspit!!
Too many neds who have been spawned by alkies/junkie single parents hanging around that station.On the whole,Glasgow is an embarrassment and full of tramps and thieves like these-Glad I had the sense to get my young children to feck outta the city I once loved and grew up in-it is a cesspit!!
Posted by: Chowdah, Glasgow on 11:51am Wed 10 Sep 08
Dank, badly lit, no staff, no security, scum with free reign... it's ok though, we will be able to send a text message just before we get our phones nicked soon.
Get with the program Glasgow.
Dank, badly lit, no staff, no security, scum with free reign... it's ok though, we will be able to send a text message just before we get our phones nicked soon.
Get with the program Glasgow.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:52am Wed 10 Sep 08
And look where you ended up A Larger cesspit!
And look where you ended up A Larger cesspit!
Posted by: Angeline, Cambuslang on 12:15pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Emcee, please get off your high horse, The whole of Glasgow isnt like this. And please stop generalising. I moved here from Canada as i FEEL that the people are lovely. No matter where you go, there will always be scum. Why are you targetting single parents? Thank goodness I have a partner but my hats go off to people who have to raise their children alone. My cousins partner died not long after their second child was born, he doesnt hang around the streets. Infact, he has two degrees and works for the M O D!!!
Emcee, please get off your high horse, The whole of Glasgow isnt like this. And please stop generalising. I moved here from Canada as i FEEL that the people are lovely. No matter where you go, there will always be scum. Why are you targetting single parents? Thank goodness I have a partner but my hats go off to people who have to raise their children alone. My cousins partner died not long after their second child was born, he doesnt hang around the streets. Infact, he has two degrees and works for the M O D!!!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:19pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Subway needs serious investment .They keep saying more & more folk using it ,So what are you waiting for Expand itand invest.We must bow to crime .Expand it in their faces.
Subway needs serious investment .They keep saying more & more folk using it ,So what are you waiting for Expand itand invest.We must bow to crime .Expand it in their faces.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:19pm Wed 10 Sep 08
NOT :P
Posted by: emceehammer, west midlands on 12:19pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
Theres a few stations like Cowcaddens similar.Needs investment ,hope the woman will be ok.[/quote] Investment is probably your euphemism for the Tartan Tax from the Socialist National Party(SNP)-OK IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT LIKE THE 40% MINORITY OF LAW ABIDING PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FECKLESS ALKIES AND JUNKIES ON INVALIDITY BENEFIT,EY?
SHUT ALL THE STATIONS AND GIVE EVERYONE INVALIDITY CARS-IT'S ONLY FAIR-AS THE AMOUNT OF FRAUDULENT DISABLED IS BEYOND A JOKE IN GLASGOW!!
jim wrote:
Theres a few stations like Cowcaddens similar.Needs investment ,hope the woman will be ok.
Investment is probably your euphemism for the Tartan Tax from the Socialist National Party(SNP)-OK IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT LIKE THE 40% MINORITY OF LAW ABIDING PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FECKLESS ALKIES AND JUNKIES ON INVALIDITY BENEFIT,EY?
SHUT ALL THE STATIONS AND GIVE EVERYONE INVALIDITY CARS-IT'S ONLY FAIR-AS THE AMOUNT OF FRAUDULENT DISABLED IS BEYOND A JOKE IN GLASGOW!!
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:23pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]emceehammer[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: Theres a few stations like Cowcaddens similar.Needs investment ,hope the woman will be ok.[/quote] Investment is probably your euphemism for the Tartan Tax from the Socialist National Party(SNP)-OK IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT LIKE THE 40% MINORITY OF LAW ABIDING PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FECKLESS ALKIES AND JUNKIES ON INVALIDITY BENEFIT,EY? SHUT ALL THE STATIONS AND GIVE EVERYONE INVALIDITY CARS-IT'S ONLY FAIR-AS THE AMOUNT OF FRAUDULENT DISABLED IS BEYOND A JOKE IN GLASGOW!![/quote] I believe the Midlands has highest single motheres on benefits in UK ! END
emceehammer wrote:
jim wrote: Theres a few stations like Cowcaddens similar.Needs investment ,hope the woman will be ok.
Investment is probably your euphemism for the Tartan Tax from the Socialist National Party(SNP)-OK IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT LIKE THE 40% MINORITY OF LAW ABIDING PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FECKLESS ALKIES AND JUNKIES ON INVALIDITY BENEFIT,EY? SHUT ALL THE STATIONS AND GIVE EVERYONE INVALIDITY CARS-IT'S ONLY FAIR-AS THE AMOUNT OF FRAUDULENT DISABLED IS BEYOND A JOKE IN GLASGOW!!
I believe the Midlands has highest single motheres on benefits in UK ! END
Posted by: eastenddude, Glasgow on 12:41pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Hope the girl recovers from this ordeal quickly, You would have thought in light of the terror attacks on the London underground that Glasgow underground would have a great coverage of cctv which if good would catch these little thugs.
Hope the girl recovers from this ordeal quickly, You would have thought in light of the terror attacks on the London underground that Glasgow underground would have a great coverage of cctv which if good would catch these little thugs.
Posted by: steven976, Feltham, Middx on 12:49pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Q: are there CCTV cameras installed at these stations?
Q: if so, ar they working? If not, why not?
Time the British Transport Police stopped "riding shotgun" on the tube, or sitting on their collective "scratchers" in a cumfy office somewhere, and start POLICING!!
Q: are there CCTV cameras installed at these stations?
Q: if so, ar they working? If not, why not?
Time the British Transport Police stopped "riding shotgun" on the tube, or sitting on their collective "scratchers" in a cumfy office somewhere, and start POLICING!!
Posted by: QuincyMD, Glasgow on 12:50pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Seeing as they had been at it all night and the report indicates that the assault took place within the Subway, what exactly were the staff doing?
Seeing as they had been at it all night and the report indicates that the assault took place within the Subway, what exactly were the staff doing?
Posted by: ERIC LOTHIAN, everywhere on 2:48pm Wed 10 Sep 08
jim fae glasgow, ive a feeling I know you !!
jim fae glasgow, ive a feeling I know you !!
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 2:54pm Wed 10 Sep 08
posters put up advising the public that they are on camera might help,although if the satan children cannot read it seems fruitless.... then you get people saying that everybody is picking on the young.....i wonder why?it must be what they are eating,i wish the woman who was attacked a speedy recovery....she may meet them once more after she recieves her degree on mental health nursing , would not be the least bit surprised,the areas would then be in a secure environment (although some mental patients are very dangerous and may attack THOSE INDIVIDUALS THEMSELVES.
posters put up advising the public that they are on camera might help,although if the satan children cannot read it seems fruitless.... then you get people saying that everybody is picking on the young.....i wonder why?it must be what they are eating,i wish the woman who was attacked a speedy recovery....she may meet them once more after she recieves her degree on mental health nursing , would not be the least bit surprised,the areas would then be in a secure environment (although some mental patients are very dangerous and may attack THOSE INDIVIDUALS THEMSELVES.
Posted by: anni, London on 4:00pm Wed 10 Sep 08
I wish the woman a speedy recovery and agree everywhere is the same, I came from Glasgow and still love coming up there, it is a great vibrant city but sadly not excluded from the NEDS, which is the same all over the world. Or are we to believe that ONLY the WEST MIDLANDS is immune from crime? It's not everyone in Glasgow who is violent or drags their children up. This poor woman was attacked, how do we know what kind of family the attackers came from, it is possible that they have nice families. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND
I wish the woman a speedy recovery and agree everywhere is the same, I came from Glasgow and still love coming up there, it is a great vibrant city but sadly not excluded from the NEDS, which is the same all over the world. Or are we to believe that ONLY the WEST MIDLANDS is immune from crime? It's not everyone in Glasgow who is violent or drags their children up. This poor woman was attacked, how do we know what kind of family the attackers came from, it is possible that they have nice families. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 4:39pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
St George's Cross is a hell hole - a pure jungle with dodgy underpasses and pathways that sneak under the West Graham St Flyover All thanks to the progress of the 60's - we have today principal areas for rape, robbery and serious assault. Of course, you look at the undergrowth which the council doesn't know about, the place is littered with dirty needles, tin foil and lots of empty cans - hidden from public view St George's Cross is a visual eyesore - end of.[/quote]
Couldn't agree more here TMC - also emceehammer - you are spot on with your remarks!
These girls are unfortunately part of the growing trend of girls getting more boyish, and joining the gang culture which is still rife in parts of Glasgow.
Only on saturday night gangs of girls were fighting, running the streets, screaming, shouting, swearing, punching moving cars, and running accross the Clydeside Expressway.
The Police's great technique of dispersing them, or dealing with them was telling them to [italic]"disappear!"[/italic] Great! - I could of done that myself. Hardly the best way to restore public order is it. . . .
Glasgows subways may be adding minimal improvements - mere tokenistic gestures for the approach of 2014.
However, the surroundings, and areas outside subway stations must all be improved on a number of areas:
1. Safety & Security.
2. Lighting.
3. Appearance - design.
4. and, if necessary closing / sealing up the unsafe and outdated underpasses, which so many use to drink, or "shoot up" in.
People clearly need to be far more wary and alert when walking in certain parts of the city. St Georges Cross is no exception.
Having personal attack alarms, and a healthy level of awareness and a plan of action when anyone is following you, or acting suspiciously around you is no bad thing.
Knowing to gain access to the nearest close / flat, shop or public place of safety to protect yourself is basic common sense.
It's sad we have to be so aware, but sadly in this time of communities deterioating, and the credit crunch, and recession - some people are just more desperate.
The Missing City wrote:
St George's Cross is a hell hole - a pure jungle with dodgy underpasses and pathways that sneak under the West Graham St Flyover All thanks to the progress of the 60's - we have today principal areas for rape, robbery and serious assault. Of course, you look at the undergrowth which the council doesn't know about, the place is littered with dirty needles, tin foil and lots of empty cans - hidden from public view St George's Cross is a visual eyesore - end of.
Couldn't agree more here TMC - also emceehammer - you are spot on with your remarks!
These girls are unfortunately part of the growing trend of girls getting more boyish, and joining the gang culture which is still rife in parts of Glasgow.
Only on saturday night gangs of girls were fighting, running the streets, screaming, shouting, swearing, punching moving cars, and running accross the Clydeside Expressway.
The Police's great technique of dispersing them, or dealing with them was telling them to
"disappear!" Great! - I could of done that myself. Hardly the best way to restore public order is it. . . .
Glasgows subways may be adding minimal improvements - mere tokenistic gestures for the approach of 2014.
However, the surroundings, and areas outside subway stations must all be improved on a number of areas:
1. Safety & Security.
2. Lighting.
3. Appearance - design.
4. and, if necessary closing / sealing up the unsafe and outdated underpasses, which so many use to drink, or "shoot up" in.
People clearly need to be far more wary and alert when walking in certain parts of the city. St Georges Cross is no exception.
Having personal attack alarms, and a healthy level of awareness and a plan of action when anyone is following you, or acting suspiciously around you is no bad thing.
Knowing to gain access to the nearest close / flat, shop or public place of safety to protect yourself is basic common sense.
It's sad we have to be so aware, but sadly in this time of communities deterioating, and the credit crunch, and recession - some people are just more desperate.
Posted by: Ronnie Cee, Glasgow on 4:49pm Wed 10 Sep 08
I have used the station inumerable times and have yet to see neds (male or female ) hanging about outside
This girl was unfortunate and such wasters can pop up anywhere.
Cameras are a must in isolated sites (Cowcaddens is a possible for assaults with that tunnel).
Believe it or not, more junkies and drunkards hang around the West End at Byres Road Subway station than ever will at St Georges or Cowcaddens, and that station is absolutely bathed in lighting.
Big problem finding and policing neds! Getting police out of cars and patrolling the streets would be a big help.
I have used the station inumerable times and have yet to see neds (male or female ) hanging about outside
This girl was unfortunate and such wasters can pop up anywhere.
Cameras are a must in isolated sites (Cowcaddens is a possible for assaults with that tunnel).
Believe it or not, more junkies and drunkards hang around the West End at Byres Road Subway station than ever will at St Georges or Cowcaddens, and that station is absolutely bathed in lighting.
Big problem finding and policing neds! Getting police out of cars and patrolling the streets would be a big help.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 4:50pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]People Power[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote: St George's Cross is a hell hole - a pure jungle with dodgy underpasses and pathways that sneak under the West Graham St Flyover All thanks to the progress of the 60's - we have today principal areas for rape, robbery and serious assault. Of course, you look at the undergrowth which the council doesn't know about, the place is littered with dirty needles, tin foil and lots of empty cans - hidden from public view St George's Cross is a visual eyesore - end of.[/quote] Couldn't agree more here TMC - also emceehammer - you are spot on with your remarks! These girls are unfortunately part of the growing trend of girls getting more boyish, and joining the gang culture which is still rife in parts of Glasgow. Only on saturday night gangs of girls were fighting, running the streets, screaming, shouting, swearing, punching moving cars, and running accross the Clydeside Expressway. The Police's great technique of dispersing them, or dealing with them was telling them to [italic]"disappear!"[/italic] Great! - I could of done that myself. Hardly the best way to restore public order is it. . . . Glasgows subways may be adding minimal improvements - mere tokenistic gestures for the approach of 2014. However, the surroundings, and areas outside subway stations must all be improved on a number of areas: 1. Safety & Security. 2. Lighting. 3. Appearance - design. 4. and, if necessary closing / sealing up the unsafe and outdated underpasses, which so many use to drink, or "shoot up" in. People clearly need to be far more wary and alert when walking in certain parts of the city. St Georges Cross is no exception. Having personal attack alarms, and a healthy level of awareness and a plan of action when anyone is following you, or acting suspiciously around you is no bad thing. Knowing to gain access to the nearest close / flat, shop or public place of safety to protect yourself is basic common sense. It's sad we have to be so aware, but sadly in this time of communities deterioating, and the credit crunch, and recession - some people are just more desperate. [/quote] Hiya Miss PP
Yes, it is pretty clear that this area was abandoned.
To think this place was classy not too long ago, then a more better plan was put in place for lots of concrete and an almost complete wipe out of New City Road (hence the not too friendly approach to Cowcaddens Subway as Jim mentioned) and its surrounding streets, for which could have been re-developed taking away the worst buildings (not very many looking at pictures from 1967)
The place is pure desolate, a crine itself commited by authority, and not the public.
But as we see in the present day, LA, New York style, the place is horrible. Croos between Escape from New York and War of the Worlds!
Welcome to Glasgow
PS - Hope you are well Miss PP ;-)
People Power wrote:
The Missing City wrote: St George's Cross is a hell hole - a pure jungle with dodgy underpasses and pathways that sneak under the West Graham St Flyover All thanks to the progress of the 60's - we have today principal areas for rape, robbery and serious assault. Of course, you look at the undergrowth which the council doesn't know about, the place is littered with dirty needles, tin foil and lots of empty cans - hidden from public view St George's Cross is a visual eyesore - end of.
Couldn't agree more here TMC - also emceehammer - you are spot on with your remarks! These girls are unfortunately part of the growing trend of girls getting more boyish, and joining the gang culture which is still rife in parts of Glasgow. Only on saturday night gangs of girls were fighting, running the streets, screaming, shouting, swearing, punching moving cars, and running accross the Clydeside Expressway. The Police's great technique of dispersing them, or dealing with them was telling them to "disappear!" Great! - I could of done that myself. Hardly the best way to restore public order is it. . . . Glasgows subways may be adding minimal improvements - mere tokenistic gestures for the approach of 2014. However, the surroundings, and areas outside subway stations must all be improved on a number of areas: 1. Safety & Security. 2. Lighting. 3. Appearance - design. 4. and, if necessary closing / sealing up the unsafe and outdated underpasses, which so many use to drink, or "shoot up" in. People clearly need to be far more wary and alert when walking in certain parts of the city. St Georges Cross is no exception. Having personal attack alarms, and a healthy level of awareness and a plan of action when anyone is following you, or acting suspiciously around you is no bad thing. Knowing to gain access to the nearest close / flat, shop or public place of safety to protect yourself is basic common sense. It's sad we have to be so aware, but sadly in this time of communities deterioating, and the credit crunch, and recession - some people are just more desperate.
Hiya Miss PP
Yes, it is pretty clear that this area was abandoned.
To think this place was classy not too long ago, then a more better plan was put in place for lots of concrete and an almost complete wipe out of New City Road (hence the not too friendly approach to Cowcaddens Subway as Jim mentioned) and its surrounding streets, for which could have been re-developed taking away the worst buildings (not very many looking at pictures from 1967)
The place is pure desolate, a crine itself commited by authority, and not the public.
But as we see in the present day, LA, New York style, the place is horrible. Croos between Escape from New York and War of the Worlds!
Welcome to Glasgow
PS - Hope you are well Miss PP ;-)
Posted by: Katie, Glasgow on 5:21pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Beside St Georges Cross underground station there is an underpass to take you up on to Gt Western Road, it is so poorly lit that I would never ever use it unless I had someone with me. I'd rather play tig with the traffic!!
Beside St Georges Cross underground station there is an underpass to take you up on to Gt Western Road, it is so poorly lit that I would never ever use it unless I had someone with me. I'd rather play tig with the traffic!!
Posted by: rosscobhoy, Glasgow on 5:35pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Feel sorry for the girl who was jumped, sadly its not just that area that is full of neds waiting to attack passers by. I was jumped by a group of 3 boys about a year ago after leaving work late at night, managed to give one of them a decent dig back and a few kicks in the nether regions when he fell, the other 2 ran off when they realised i wasn't going to just take it. Realise now i was pretty lucky!
Feel sorry for the girl who was jumped, sadly its not just that area that is full of neds waiting to attack passers by. I was jumped by a group of 3 boys about a year ago after leaving work late at night, managed to give one of them a decent dig back and a few kicks in the nether regions when he fell, the other 2 ran off when they realised i wasn't going to just take it. Realise now i was pretty lucky!
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 5:45pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
Subway needs serious investment .They keep saying more & more folk using it ,So what are you waiting for Expand itand invest.We must bow to crime .Expand it in their faces.[/quote] Sub-way requires commonsense and a MD who frequents their business. Cost effective lighting exists, if the Clyde can be given some luminance then the exterior of a Sub-way station should not have a issue. Appears that customer service only starts once you purchase the ticket, and having departed the station, attitude appears to be one of "not my problem now." Proper CCTV coverage would also be helpful. Considering the issues of the under-pass, spray painting from the anarchists and smashing of lighting, add to that the unmanaged growth in the trees (should now be removed), the area has been storing up issues...
jim wrote:
Subway needs serious investment .They keep saying more & more folk using it ,So what are you waiting for Expand itand invest.We must bow to crime .Expand it in their faces.
Sub-way requires commonsense and a MD who frequents their business. Cost effective lighting exists, if the Clyde can be given some luminance then the exterior of a Sub-way station should not have a issue. Appears that customer service only starts once you purchase the ticket, and having departed the station, attitude appears to be one of "not my problem now." Proper CCTV coverage would also be helpful. Considering the issues of the under-pass, spray painting from the anarchists and smashing of lighting, add to that the unmanaged growth in the trees (should now be removed), the area has been storing up issues...
Posted by: Scottish Rose, U.S.A. on 5:56pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]mulross[/bold] wrote:
From last night's ET [quote]It is understood the attackers had been hassling other passengers earlier in the evening.[/quote] So why was no action taken then???[/quote] Good point mulross.. I always worry about my sister when she's out and about in Glasgow.
mulross wrote:
From last night's ET It is understood the attackers had been hassling other passengers earlier in the evening.
So why was no action taken then???
Good point mulross.. I always worry about my sister when she's out and about in Glasgow.
Posted by: Celticghirl1969, Renfrew on 7:23pm Wed 10 Sep 08
I used this underground station for work for many years, and wholeheartedly agree that the area around the station is completely unsafe. Too many underpasses, overgrown shrubs etc. Not a place where women could feel comfortable on their own. . . . . . . . and we're being badgered to use public transport instead of the car???? [bold]I for one, don't think so[/bold] .
I used this underground station for work for many years, and wholeheartedly agree that the area around the station is completely unsafe. Too many underpasses, overgrown shrubs etc. Not a place where women could feel comfortable on their own. . . . . . . . and we're being badgered to use public transport instead of the car????
I for one, don't think so .
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 7:58pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Unfortunately, there's nothing new about violent neds, young violent females or muggings in that area by young people.
I wish the girl a speedy recovery but if my experience is anything to go by, it's a loss of confidence that you never regain, after many months of feeling upset and restless.
Glasgow remains one of the most violent cities in Scotland that has one of the highest rates of violence and murder in Northern Europe. People forget about that flipside when they praise Scots for their general friendliness and humour.
About 15 years ago, a mile further up the Maryhill Road from St Georges Cross, I was held at knifepoint by 4 or 5 children (I doubt they were even in their teens), including a very young female, dragged onto the floor by them as pack and kicked in the face and back until I released my bag.
I was lucky that the young knife holder (probably about 9 years of age) ignored the commands of the young girl (probably about 12 years of age) to stab me.
The police ticked me off for walking in that area and didn't take a statement after they drove me around to try and identify them. The reason why they were in that area was the same pack had attacked someone minutes before.
All I expect to have happened in the meantime, is these kids have now bred kids like themselves.
Unfortunately, there's nothing new about violent neds, young violent females or muggings in that area by young people.
I wish the girl a speedy recovery but if my experience is anything to go by, it's a loss of confidence that you never regain, after many months of feeling upset and restless.
Glasgow remains one of the most violent cities in Scotland that has one of the highest rates of violence and murder in Northern Europe. People forget about that flipside when they praise Scots for their general friendliness and humour.
About 15 years ago, a mile further up the Maryhill Road from St Georges Cross, I was held at knifepoint by 4 or 5 children (I doubt they were even in their teens), including a very young female, dragged onto the floor by them as pack and kicked in the face and back until I released my bag.
I was lucky that the young knife holder (probably about 9 years of age) ignored the commands of the young girl (probably about 12 years of age) to stab me.
The police ticked me off for walking in that area and didn't take a statement after they drove me around to try and identify them. The reason why they were in that area was the same pack had attacked someone minutes before.
All I expect to have happened in the meantime, is these kids have now bred kids like themselves.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 8:44pm Wed 10 Sep 08
it is pretty bad when the ned culture can sit on the subways and drink the booze without being told to hand the stuff over till they get off, this scenario happens all the time(i dont blame the staff on the underground keeping a low profile, i sure as hell would notlike to confront any of them)... many ex veterans fought for this load of neandrathals?.....wh
y?was it worth it?
it is pretty bad when the ned culture can sit on the subways and drink the booze without being told to hand the stuff over till they get off, this scenario happens all the time(i dont blame the staff on the underground keeping a low profile, i sure as hell would notlike to confront any of them)... many ex veterans fought for this load of neandrathals?.....wh
y?was it worth it?
Posted by: Grandpaw, Glasgow on 8:50pm Wed 10 Sep 08
I just can't understand why people still go out at night. Don't they know what goes on, and that they are literally taking their lives in their own hands if they don't have private transport from point A to point B ?
I just can't understand why people still go out at night. Don't they know what goes on, and that they are literally taking their lives in their own hands if they don't have private transport from point A to point B ?
Posted by: Titus a duxas, Ft.McMurray on 11:51pm Wed 10 Sep 08
is there not any vigilantes in Glasgow? before anyone sez that comes down to the level of these wee scumbags, maybee we need to go to a level they understand. take a couple out to send a message.
is there not any vigilantes in Glasgow? before anyone sez that comes down to the level of these wee scumbags, maybee we need to go to a level they understand. take a couple out to send a message.
Posted by: Titus a duxas, Ft.McMurray on 11:52pm Wed 10 Sep 08
is there not any vigilantes in Glasgow? before anyone sez that comes down to the level of these wee scumbags, maybee we need to go to a level they understand. take a couple out to send a message.
is there not any vigilantes in Glasgow? before anyone sez that comes down to the level of these wee scumbags, maybee we need to go to a level they understand. take a couple out to send a message.
Posted by: glasgirl, Glasgow on 12:12am Thu 11 Sep 08
Grandpaw, I must disagree with you. Why should anyone be prisoners in our own homes at night because of these little scumbags. If the police catch them the PC brigade will harp on about their human rights and how they have had a hard life, instead of banging them in a young offenders and taking away their human rights. What about the human rights of everyone who stays in the city?
And not all young people are neds but they are being tarred with the same brush. I have 3 teenage kids - oh and I'm a single parent living in a housing scheme - who are well mannered and doing very well at school. They have been taught to treat people the way they wish to be treated themselves. Unfortunatelly they come home on a regular basis informing me of how rude adults have been to them and their friends when they have been in the City Centre.
Grandpaw, I must disagree with you. Why should anyone be prisoners in our own homes at night because of these little scumbags. If the police catch them the PC brigade will harp on about their human rights and how they have had a hard life, instead of banging them in a young offenders and taking away their human rights. What about the human rights of everyone who stays in the city?
And not all young people are neds but they are being tarred with the same brush. I have 3 teenage kids - oh and I'm a single parent living in a housing scheme - who are well mannered and doing very well at school. They have been taught to treat people the way they wish to be treated themselves. Unfortunatelly they come home on a regular basis informing me of how rude adults have been to them and their friends when they have been in the City Centre.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 3:36am Thu 11 Sep 08
i think i will borrow my sons rotweiller dog at night....thatsa no ma dug,ma dug no bite.
i think i will borrow my sons rotweiller dog at night....thatsa no ma dug,ma dug no bite.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 4:23am Thu 11 Sep 08
titus a duxas.... loved that name!when you say "take the wee scumbags out to send a message" i presume you mean knock them out and it will send a message to all the other wee trouble makers.....oooo mammy daddy, that big boay hit me fur nuthin,....now that is when our boys in blue should turn a blind eye,and 'loose' the phone in reports of a disturbance, ...like press 1 for police...press 2 for english...press 3 for granny being mugged...press4 for drug related incidents.... press5for asbo....press6 for gang fights...press 7for indecent exposure...press 8for attack being in progress...press9for bank hold up, press 10 for nurse attack at hospital, but i am not in a hurry son finish your curry first, now guess what one would be attended to first?...yes, you have guessed it ...THE BANK ROBBERY, helicopters, riot gear, swatt team,canine unit,.... cripes with all that we should be able to enjoy our city instead of pi**ing ourselves going for a walk to the shops or the parks, i still think the police should be in unmarked vehicles and not give the public any signal with the sirene or flashing lights.
titus a duxas.... loved that name!when you say "take the wee scumbags out to send a message" i presume you mean knock them out and it will send a message to all the other wee trouble makers.....oooo mammy daddy, that big boay hit me fur nuthin,....now that is when our boys in blue should turn a blind eye,and 'loose' the phone in reports of a disturbance, ...like press 1 for police...press 2 for english...press 3 for granny being mugged...press4 for drug related incidents.... press5for asbo....press6 for gang fights...press 7for indecent exposure...press 8for attack being in progress...press9for bank hold up, press 10 for nurse attack at hospital, but i am not in a hurry son finish your curry first, now guess what one would be attended to first?...yes, you have guessed it ...THE BANK ROBBERY, helicopters, riot gear, swatt team,canine unit,.... cripes with all that we should be able to enjoy our city instead of pi**ing ourselves going for a walk to the shops or the parks, i still think the police should be in unmarked vehicles and not give the public any signal with the sirene or flashing lights.
Posted by: trench, possilpark on 4:48am Thu 11 Sep 08
grandpaw, i bet all the medical staff as well as other working people who have to work all weird hours wish they did not need to travel on public transport ....but there you have it,somebody has to do it, then 'runthe gauntlet' hopeing that no evil person will attack them.
grandpaw, i bet all the medical staff as well as other working people who have to work all weird hours wish they did not need to travel on public transport ....but there you have it,somebody has to do it, then 'runthe gauntlet' hopeing that no evil person will attack them.
Posted by: Titus a duxas, Ft.McMurray on 5:10am Thu 11 Sep 08
ha ha Trench ah like it
Posted by: Grandpaw, Glasgow on 7:41am Thu 11 Sep 08
[quote][bold]glasgirl[/bold] wrote:
Grandpaw, I must disagree with you. Why should anyone be prisoners in our own homes at night because of these little scumbags. If the police catch them the PC brigade will harp on about their human rights and how they have had a hard life, instead of banging them in a young offenders and taking away their human rights. What about the human rights of everyone who stays in the city? And not all young people are neds but they are being tarred with the same brush. I have 3 teenage kids - oh and I'm a single parent living in a housing scheme - who are well mannered and doing very well at school. They have been taught to treat people the way they wish to be treated themselves. Unfortunatelly they come home on a regular basis informing me of how rude adults have been to them and their friends when they have been in the City Centre.[/quote] Indeed you are right....why should anyone be prisoners in their own homes at night. But that's the world we live in, all because of the failure of the authorities to do something about it.
And yes...not all teens are thugs etc, but I have done a risk assessment after reading and hearing and seeing all the things that go on, and decided....no, it's just not worth the risk.
Sad, isn't it?
glasgirl wrote:
Grandpaw, I must disagree with you. Why should anyone be prisoners in our own homes at night because of these little scumbags. If the police catch them the PC brigade will harp on about their human rights and how they have had a hard life, instead of banging them in a young offenders and taking away their human rights. What about the human rights of everyone who stays in the city? And not all young people are neds but they are being tarred with the same brush. I have 3 teenage kids - oh and I'm a single parent living in a housing scheme - who are well mannered and doing very well at school. They have been taught to treat people the way they wish to be treated themselves. Unfortunatelly they come home on a regular basis informing me of how rude adults have been to them and their friends when they have been in the City Centre.
Indeed you are right....why should anyone be prisoners in their own homes at night. But that's the world we live in, all because of the failure of the authorities to do something about it.
And yes...not all teens are thugs etc, but I have done a risk assessment after reading and hearing and seeing all the things that go on, and decided....no, it's just not worth the risk.
Sad, isn't it?
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 8:26am Thu 11 Sep 08
[quote][bold]leesome[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: Subway needs serious investment .They keep saying more & more folk using it ,So what are you waiting for Expand itand invest.We must bow to crime .Expand it in their faces.[/quote] Sub-way requires commonsense and a MD who frequents their business. Cost effective lighting exists, if the Clyde can be given some luminance then the exterior of a Sub-way station should not have a issue. Appears that customer service only starts once you purchase the ticket, and having departed the station, attitude appears to be one of "not my problem now." Proper CCTV coverage would also be helpful. Considering the issues of the under-pass, spray painting from the anarchists and smashing of lighting, add to that the unmanaged growth in the trees (should now be removed), the area has been storing up issues...[/quote] I agree.
leesome wrote:
jim wrote: Subway needs serious investment .They keep saying more & more folk using it ,So what are you waiting for Expand itand invest.We must bow to crime .Expand it in their faces.
Sub-way requires commonsense and a MD who frequents their business. Cost effective lighting exists, if the Clyde can be given some luminance then the exterior of a Sub-way station should not have a issue. Appears that customer service only starts once you purchase the ticket, and having departed the station, attitude appears to be one of "not my problem now." Proper CCTV coverage would also be helpful. Considering the issues of the under-pass, spray painting from the anarchists and smashing of lighting, add to that the unmanaged growth in the trees (should now be removed), the area has been storing up issues...
I agree.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 8:27am Thu 11 Sep 08
[quote][bold]ERIC LOTHIAN[/bold] wrote:
jim fae glasgow, ive a feeling I know you !![/quote] What?
ERIC LOTHIAN wrote:
jim fae glasgow, ive a feeling I know you !!
What?
Posted by: the ref, airdrie on 10:05am Thu 11 Sep 08
they must have been prods who perpetrated this cowardly attack after all look at what happened to neil lennon..
they must have been prods who perpetrated this cowardly attack after all look at what happened to neil lennon..
Posted by: Lolly1811, Glasgow on 11:53am Thu 11 Sep 08
emcee... dear oh dear, the Midlands is an absolute hole. Living there is like punishment. Good luck with that.
Subway systems across Europe have problems, I was recently on one in Lille and it was a dice with death trying to dodge the robbing gits and worse that seemed to live down there.
Also, after living in New York for a time, I cant tell you how nasty their subway can be. There is permenant homeless population in almost all the stations, including Grand Central (the nicest one) not to mention the mentally ill who are rather unpredictable and love to hang out there.
This is a city, like any other - warts n all. I am really sorry what happened to that girl but you are foolish if you think these problems are unique to Glasgow.
emcee... dear oh dear, the Midlands is an absolute hole. Living there is like punishment. Good luck with that.
Subway systems across Europe have problems, I was recently on one in Lille and it was a dice with death trying to dodge the robbing gits and worse that seemed to live down there.
Also, after living in New York for a time, I cant tell you how nasty their subway can be. There is permenant homeless population in almost all the stations, including Grand Central (the nicest one) not to mention the mentally ill who are rather unpredictable and love to hang out there.
This is a city, like any other - warts n all. I am really sorry what happened to that girl but you are foolish if you think these problems are unique to Glasgow.
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