Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 10:56am Wed 10 Sep 08
Petty bully-boy tactics, the public not consulted, lies and spin, huge amounts of taxpayers' money spent on politicians' vanity projects and [bold]yet more people on the dole[/bold]... how very New Labour!
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."[/italic]
Petty bully-boy tactics, the public not consulted, lies and spin, huge amounts of taxpayers' money spent on politicians' vanity projects and
yet more people on the dole... how very New Labour!
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Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents." Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 11:04am Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
Petty bully-boy tactics, the public not consulted, lies and spin, huge amounts of taxpayers' money spent on politicians' vanity projects and [bold]yet more people on the dole[/bold]... how very New Labour! -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."[/italic] [/quote] Innocent, decent traders treated like scum of the earth
Welcome to Glasgow
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Petty bully-boy tactics, the public not consulted, lies and spin, huge amounts of taxpayers' money spent on politicians' vanity projects and yet more people on the dole... how very New Labour! -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Innocent, decent traders treated like scum of the earth
Welcome to Glasgow
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 11:14am Wed 10 Sep 08
I can see all sorts of protests happening because of this ill thought out idea. also i can see legitimate [bold]squatting[/bold] being used as a form of protest. How long as the council owned "The Briggait" remained empty for? A good decade? If the council cant lease out The Briggait to retailers then how hard will it be for Paddy's to be leased out in the middle of quiet bit of Glasgow? I would say to people out there a good way to highlight these issues would be to use squatting has a form of protest over this. At least [bold]squatters[/bold] would use the properties more effectively than the council has over the last 20 years.
I can see all sorts of protests happening because of this ill thought out idea. also i can see legitimate
squatting being used as a form of protest. How long as the council owned "The Briggait" remained empty for? A good decade? If the council cant lease out The Briggait to retailers then how hard will it be for Paddy's to be leased out in the middle of quiet bit of Glasgow? I would say to people out there a good way to highlight these issues would be to use squatting has a form of protest over this. At least
squatters would use the properties more effectively than the council has over the last 20 years.
Posted by: clayton-moore on 11:24am Wed 10 Sep 08
Any other city would be doing it's best to preserve their last existing street market.
Not the insulated deep pocketed slugs of the new labour bureaucracy. These parasites have no emotional connection to our city and this is one more example of their contempt for its citizens.
They know what's best for you, a nice new shopping center combined with car park, built with bricks shipped from England and not a window anywhere.
Plenty of scope there to get their big fat bloated snouts into the trough there'll be a few holiday cottages in Ireland bought on the back of this.
Glasgow, where tradition means nothing in the face of money to be made by the most corrupt and inept city council on this island.
Any other city would be doing it's best to preserve their last existing street market.
Not the insulated deep pocketed slugs of the new labour bureaucracy. These parasites have no emotional connection to our city and this is one more example of their contempt for its citizens.
They know what's best for you, a nice new shopping center combined with car park, built with bricks shipped from England and not a window anywhere.
Plenty of scope there to get their big fat bloated snouts into the trough there'll be a few holiday cottages in Ireland bought on the back of this.
Glasgow, where tradition means nothing in the face of money to be made by the most corrupt and inept city council on this island.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 11:36am Wed 10 Sep 08
The same is happening in England even traditional markets thats been there longer than Paddys Preston market is all but closed .Sad
The same is happening in England even traditional markets thats been there longer than Paddys Preston market is all but closed .Sad
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 11:40am Wed 10 Sep 08
[italic]Sir, you started brilliantly and only got better![/italic]
In support of your last point, that Glasgow City Council is the most "corrupt and inept city council on this island", may I offer as evidence a quote from a 'hidden' article in yesterday's edition in this, the finest evening newspaper in the country:
[quote]GLASGOW is still the worst authority in Britain for collecting council tax.
The city topped a league table of 400 UK councils with almost £22million of uncollected money.
[bold]It means Glasgow has had the worst record for council tax collection in Scotland for the last seven years[/bold].[/quote]
So not only is this decrepit council destroying the cultural heritage of our city, it is also failing in its core, pivotal function.
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."[/italic]
Sir, you started brilliantly and only got better!
In support of your last point, that Glasgow City Council is the most "corrupt and inept city council on this island", may I offer as evidence a quote from a 'hidden' article in yesterday's edition in this, the finest evening newspaper in the country:
GLASGOW is still the worst authority in Britain for collecting council tax.
The city topped a league table of 400 UK councils with almost £22million of uncollected money.
It means Glasgow has had the worst record for council tax collection in Scotland for the last seven years.
So not only is this decrepit council destroying the cultural heritage of our city, it is also failing in its core, pivotal function.
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Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents." Posted by: Chowdah, Glasgow on 11:55am Wed 10 Sep 08
could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market? There'e nough empty buildings that could be used for something like this. Markets are the highlights in a lot of tourist guides to a lot of cities. Or do we just want everyone going to generic shopping centres with surly characterless 'traders' and nice shiny tiles?
could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market? There'e nough empty buildings that could be used for something like this. Markets are the highlights in a lot of tourist guides to a lot of cities. Or do we just want everyone going to generic shopping centres with surly characterless 'traders' and nice shiny tiles?
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:58am Wed 10 Sep 08
[bold]Cultural Heritage????[/bold] Don't make me laugh - it's a grotty, crime ridden eyesore, buried away down a corner with hardly any footfall, so away from the "Z" that shoppers are not going to make the walk down the equally unloved and underpopulated Saltmarket or the bleak southern reaches of Stockwell St. Probably one of the key reasons why the Briggait failed. Most of my adult life I've worked in the centre of town and can probably count on one hand how many times I've ventured down there on foot.
Anyway - as far as a street market is concerned....isn't that what the Barras is meant to be for??? Can't they simply move there instead?
Cultural Heritage???? Don't make me laugh - it's a grotty, crime ridden eyesore, buried away down a corner with hardly any footfall, so away from the "Z" that shoppers are not going to make the walk down the equally unloved and underpopulated Saltmarket or the bleak southern reaches of Stockwell St. Probably one of the key reasons why the Briggait failed. Most of my adult life I've worked in the centre of town and can probably count on one hand how many times I've ventured down there on foot.
Anyway - as far as a street market is concerned....isn't that what the Barras is meant to be for??? Can't they simply move there instead?
Posted by: newbie, Glasgow on 12:02pm Wed 10 Sep 08
I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?
I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:12pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]newbie[/bold] wrote:
I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?[/quote] Welcome newbie.
The fact is that the [bold]traders have made numerous representations to our decrepit city council[/bold] for help in assisting the problems and challenges faced by the market's traders.
Unfortunately not only have the council (and the police) not offered any help to traders, they have effectively conspired to ensure that conditions deteriorated to what you now witness today.
New Labour politicians may be thick, greedy and irresponsible, but unfortunately they also have huge amounts of time on their hands in which to think (while scoffing copious amounts of free cream cakes) about how they can long-term undermine the best interests of the people they are supposed to help.
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."[/italic]
newbie wrote:
I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?
Welcome newbie.
The fact is that the
traders have made numerous representations to our decrepit city council for help in assisting the problems and challenges faced by the market's traders.
Unfortunately not only have the council (and the police) not offered any help to traders, they have effectively conspired to ensure that conditions deteriorated to what you now witness today.
New Labour politicians may be thick, greedy and irresponsible, but unfortunately they also have huge amounts of time on their hands in which to think (while scoffing copious amounts of free cream cakes) about how they can long-term undermine the best interests of the people they are supposed to help.
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Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents." Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:14pm Wed 10 Sep 08
They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.
They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.
Posted by: newbie, Glasgow on 12:20pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.[/quote] Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.
jim wrote:
They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.
Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:30pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]newbie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.[/quote] Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.[/quote] Thanks newbie.I stand corrected:).I grew up on Bridgegate I thought the ground was parallel to St margarets and jocelyne sq at Morgue.
newbie wrote:
jim wrote: They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.
Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.
Thanks newbie.I stand corrected:).I grew up on Bridgegate I thought the ground was parallel to St margarets and jocelyne sq at Morgue.
Posted by: newbie, Glasgow on 12:30pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]newbie[/bold] wrote: I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?[/quote] Welcome newbie. The fact is that the [bold]traders have made numerous representations to our decrepit city council[/bold] for help in assisting the problems and challenges faced by the market's traders. Unfortunately not only have the council (and the police) not offered any help to traders, they have effectively conspired to ensure that conditions deteriorated to what you now witness today. New Labour politicians may be thick, greedy and irresponsible, but unfortunately they also have huge amounts of time on their hands in which to think (while scoffing copious amounts of free cream cakes) about how they can long-term undermine the best interests of the people they are supposed to help. -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."[/italic] [/quote] Sydney, the police and the council are not the only course of action open to the traders. Whatever happened to "take them round the back and give them a good *talking to*?" Also, I'm reading a lot about how terrible the Briggait is; that's it's empty etc. What about moving Paddy's there?
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
newbie wrote: I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?
Welcome newbie. The fact is that the traders have made numerous representations to our decrepit city council for help in assisting the problems and challenges faced by the market's traders. Unfortunately not only have the council (and the police) not offered any help to traders, they have effectively conspired to ensure that conditions deteriorated to what you now witness today. New Labour politicians may be thick, greedy and irresponsible, but unfortunately they also have huge amounts of time on their hands in which to think (while scoffing copious amounts of free cream cakes) about how they can long-term undermine the best interests of the people they are supposed to help. -- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Sydney, the police and the council are not the only course of action open to the traders. Whatever happened to "take them round the back and give them a good *talking to*?" Also, I'm reading a lot about how terrible the Briggait is; that's it's empty etc. What about moving Paddy's there?
Posted by: newbie, Glasgow on 12:35pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]newbie[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.[/quote] Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.[/quote] Thanks newbie.I stand corrected:).I grew up on Bridgegate I thought the ground was parallel to St margarets and jocelyne sq at Morgue.[/quote] Oh you might be right actually! I've always called it Jocelyn Square cause that's what comes in the neighbour notifications when they try to build multi-storey complexes on it. I'm technically still an interloper so maybe it's I who should stand corrected. Why on earth don't they put a car park for the court workers on that ground?
jim wrote:
newbie wrote: jim wrote: They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.
Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.
Thanks newbie.I stand corrected:).I grew up on Bridgegate I thought the ground was parallel to St margarets and jocelyne sq at Morgue.
Oh you might be right actually! I've always called it Jocelyn Square cause that's what comes in the neighbour notifications when they try to build multi-storey complexes on it. I'm technically still an interloper so maybe it's I who should stand corrected. Why on earth don't they put a car park for the court workers on that ground?
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 12:38pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]newbie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]newbie[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]jim[/bold] wrote: They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.[/quote] Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.[/quote] Thanks newbie.I stand corrected:).I grew up on Bridgegate I thought the ground was parallel to St margarets and jocelyne sq at Morgue.[/quote] Oh you might be right actually! I've always called it Jocelyn Square cause that's what comes in the neighbour notifications when they try to build multi-storey complexes on it. I'm technically still an interloper so maybe it's I who should stand corrected. Why on earth don't they put a car park for the court workers on that ground?[/quote] I agree mate .
newbie wrote:
jim wrote: newbie wrote: jim wrote: They are going to build (wait for it)Luxury flats on the spare ground nxt to paddys on St Margarets place.
Jim, I checked with the council about that. As of Monday there was no permission granted for such a build. An application was made in 2003 but that has since expired. basically the owners of the land NV properties tried to get permission to build a multi-storey complex on it in late 2006 but it is not yet approved. So they have erected the present sign on it with the purpose, I can only assume, to attract another party which will take it off their hands. PS The correct name for the ground which is now a carpark is Jocelyn Square.
Thanks newbie.I stand corrected:).I grew up on Bridgegate I thought the ground was parallel to St margarets and jocelyne sq at Morgue.
Oh you might be right actually! I've always called it Jocelyn Square cause that's what comes in the neighbour notifications when they try to build multi-storey complexes on it. I'm technically still an interloper so maybe it's I who should stand corrected. Why on earth don't they put a car park for the court workers on that ground?
I agree mate .
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:52pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[italic]Some background[/italic]:
Here's what spokesperson for Paddy's Market traders and tenants, Brian Daly said about the conduct of the council:
[quote]"There has been a sustained approach by some Labour councillors and council officials to make unsupported claims both in council and through the media locally in an attempt to gain public and council support for their project.
"The whole affair has been one of misrepresentation of the facts to the public, the media and to the council itself. We live in a democratic society yet, some of those who we trust to carry out duties on our behalf have chosen to make decisions and disregard the wishes of the electorate.
"Labour councillors refused to share vital information with other elected members from other political parties who also represent this area or include them in the vital stages of the decision making process.
"Elected members who behave in such a way should and must be held fully accountable for their actions, and whilst it would be inappropriate for me to pre-empt the findings of the Standard Commission investigation, I believe the evidence against those Councillors involved is pretty damning. We won't put up with the bully boy tactics of the council any longer."[/quote]
And let's not forget that - according to a press release on allmediascotland:
[quote]Eleven Labour Glasgow City Councillors, including Councillor George Ryan, who last night suddenly pulled out of the contest to represent Labour in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, were reported to the Standards on 18 June 2008 in connection with a controversial land deal in the city centre.
The complaint surrounded their conduct in relation to the controversial attempt to close down the 150 year old Paddy’s Market in the city and obtain land on which the market is currently located.
The complaint which was submitted to the Standards Commission of Scotland by a representative of Paddy’s Market traders claimed that Councillor Ryan misled the council in a report he presented to the council’s Executive Committee which recommended the council purchase the head lease of the land where the market is situated and for the historic Paddy’s Market to be closed down.[/quote]
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."[/italic]
Some background:
Here's what spokesperson for Paddy's Market traders and tenants, Brian Daly said about the conduct of the council:
"There has been a sustained approach by some Labour councillors and council officials to make unsupported claims both in council and through the media locally in an attempt to gain public and council support for their project.
"The whole affair has been one of misrepresentation of the facts to the public, the media and to the council itself. We live in a democratic society yet, some of those who we trust to carry out duties on our behalf have chosen to make decisions and disregard the wishes of the electorate.
"Labour councillors refused to share vital information with other elected members from other political parties who also represent this area or include them in the vital stages of the decision making process.
"Elected members who behave in such a way should and must be held fully accountable for their actions, and whilst it would be inappropriate for me to pre-empt the findings of the Standard Commission investigation, I believe the evidence against those Councillors involved is pretty damning. We won't put up with the bully boy tactics of the council any longer."
And let's not forget that - according to a press release on allmediascotland:
Eleven Labour Glasgow City Councillors, including Councillor George Ryan, who last night suddenly pulled out of the contest to represent Labour in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, were reported to the Standards on 18 June 2008 in connection with a controversial land deal in the city centre.
The complaint surrounded their conduct in relation to the controversial attempt to close down the 150 year old Paddy’s Market in the city and obtain land on which the market is currently located.
The complaint which was submitted to the Standards Commission of Scotland by a representative of Paddy’s Market traders claimed that Councillor Ryan misled the council in a report he presented to the council’s Executive Committee which recommended the council purchase the head lease of the land where the market is situated and for the historic Paddy’s Market to be closed down.
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Sydney Meriwether
"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents." Posted by: marty, Saltmarket on 1:02pm Wed 10 Sep 08
"Innocent, decent traders", "Cultural heritage"? Come on! The reality is Paddy's is a cesspit of pirate DVD and junk sellers! There's no place in the 21st century for this Steptoe-esque eyesore!
Congratulations to the council for acting to close this place down for the benefit of all the city's residents!
"Innocent, decent traders", "Cultural heritage"? Come on! The reality is Paddy's is a cesspit of pirate DVD and junk sellers! There's no place in the 21st century for this Steptoe-esque eyesore!
Congratulations to the council for acting to close this place down for the benefit of all the city's residents!
Posted by: newbie, Glasgow on 1:07pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[italic]Some background[/italic]: Here's what spokesperson for Paddy's Market traders and tenants, Brian Daly said about the conduct of the council: [quote]"There has been a sustained approach by some Labour councillors and council officials to make unsupported claims both in council and through the media locally in an attempt to gain public and council support for their project. "The whole affair has been one of misrepresentation of the facts to the public, the media and to the council itself. We live in a democratic society yet, some of those who we trust to carry out duties on our behalf have chosen to make decisions and disregard the wishes of the electorate. "Labour councillors refused to share vital information with other elected members from other political parties who also represent this area or include them in the vital stages of the decision making process. "Elected members who behave in such a way should and must be held fully accountable for their actions, and whilst it would be inappropriate for me to pre-empt the findings of the Standard Commission investigation, I believe the evidence against those Councillors involved is pretty damning. We won't put up with the bully boy tactics of the council any longer."[/quote] And let's not forget that - according to a press release on allmediascotland: [quote]Eleven Labour Glasgow City Councillors, including Councillor George Ryan, who last night suddenly pulled out of the contest to represent Labour in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, were reported to the Standards on 18 June 2008 in connection with a controversial land deal in the city centre. The complaint surrounded their conduct in relation to the controversial attempt to close down the 150 year old Paddy’s Market in the city and obtain land on which the market is currently located. The complaint which was submitted to the Standards Commission of Scotland by a representative of Paddy’s Market traders claimed that Councillor Ryan misled the council in a report he presented to the council’s Executive Committee which recommended the council purchase the head lease of the land where the market is situated and for the historic Paddy’s Market to be closed down.[/quote] -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]"One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."[/italic] [/quote] Sydney, thanks for the background, but it does not detract from the fact that the market is now a mess. I have to walk by it every day and it's a sad shadow of what it used to be. Every night at 12:30 a vulture comes by with the sole purpose of emptying the 3 huge containers which lie at the mouth of the market (this was not always the case). Why don't the traders get together and produce their own action plan. Or maybe that's already be done and rejected?
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Some background: Here's what spokesperson for Paddy's Market traders and tenants, Brian Daly said about the conduct of the council: "There has been a sustained approach by some Labour councillors and council officials to make unsupported claims both in council and through the media locally in an attempt to gain public and council support for their project. "The whole affair has been one of misrepresentation of the facts to the public, the media and to the council itself. We live in a democratic society yet, some of those who we trust to carry out duties on our behalf have chosen to make decisions and disregard the wishes of the electorate. "Labour councillors refused to share vital information with other elected members from other political parties who also represent this area or include them in the vital stages of the decision making process. "Elected members who behave in such a way should and must be held fully accountable for their actions, and whilst it would be inappropriate for me to pre-empt the findings of the Standard Commission investigation, I believe the evidence against those Councillors involved is pretty damning. We won't put up with the bully boy tactics of the council any longer."
And let's not forget that - according to a press release on allmediascotland: Eleven Labour Glasgow City Councillors, including Councillor George Ryan, who last night suddenly pulled out of the contest to represent Labour in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, were reported to the Standards on 18 June 2008 in connection with a controversial land deal in the city centre. The complaint surrounded their conduct in relation to the controversial attempt to close down the 150 year old Paddy’s Market in the city and obtain land on which the market is currently located. The complaint which was submitted to the Standards Commission of Scotland by a representative of Paddy’s Market traders claimed that Councillor Ryan misled the council in a report he presented to the council’s Executive Committee which recommended the council purchase the head lease of the land where the market is situated and for the historic Paddy’s Market to be closed down.
-- Sydney Meriwether "One of Glasgow's more intelligent residents."
Sydney, thanks for the background, but it does not detract from the fact that the market is now a mess. I have to walk by it every day and it's a sad shadow of what it used to be. Every night at 12:30 a vulture comes by with the sole purpose of emptying the 3 huge containers which lie at the mouth of the market (this was not always the case). Why don't the traders get together and produce their own action plan. Or maybe that's already be done and rejected?
Posted by: raypaterson, Glasgow on 1:39pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]marty[/bold] wrote:
"Innocent, decent traders", "Cultural heritage"? Come on! The reality is Paddy's is a cesspit of pirate DVD and junk sellers! There's no place in the 21st century for this Steptoe-esque eyesore! Congratulations to the council for acting to close this place down for the benefit of all the city's residents![/quote] I have to agree marty, I remember going to Paddy's market as a child and I thought it was bowfing then. Any time I have passed recently only confirms this.
marty wrote:
"Innocent, decent traders", "Cultural heritage"? Come on! The reality is Paddy's is a cesspit of pirate DVD and junk sellers! There's no place in the 21st century for this Steptoe-esque eyesore! Congratulations to the council for acting to close this place down for the benefit of all the city's residents!
I have to agree marty, I remember going to Paddy's market as a child and I thought it was bowfing then. Any time I have passed recently only confirms this.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin, Glasgow on 2:13pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote]could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market[/quote]
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries....
They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries....
They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
Posted by: thistlemad, Ayrshire on 2:32pm Wed 10 Sep 08
First of all, I make my money from buying and selling 2nd hand goods of all descriptions, so I know A LITTLE of what goes on.
Electrical items sold there VERY rarely work and are sold illegally since they have no electrical safety stamp.
Most of the clothes come from collections made by VERY dodgy "charities". We`ve all had black bin bags with badly printed labels on them pushed through our doors.
The drugs SHOULD have been nipped in the bud, but no matter who is to blame, it wasn`t.
The pirate DVDs would not exist if the public were not being ripped off by the "legitimate" DVD manufacturers. Lets not forget, MOST DVDs were in the cinemas, and older ones were originally available on video too. So I have no sympathy for the DVD industry AT ALL.
Cap all DVDs at £5 ........ problem vanishes if it is coupled with HEAVY sentences for manufacturing of any DVDs of films currently in the cinemas.
They can`t move to the Barras or Blochairn since they are not open every day.
Besides, Blochairn on a Sunday is now rife with fake DVDs, stolen goods, copied games, bootleg fags, programmed cable NTL/Virgin boxes ..... the list is endless.
The BIGGEST and most ironic thing about all of this?????? Blochairn in one day is worse than Paddys six days, AND BLOCHAIRN IS COUNCIL OWNED AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all, I make my money from buying and selling 2nd hand goods of all descriptions, so I know A LITTLE of what goes on.
Electrical items sold there VERY rarely work and are sold illegally since they have no electrical safety stamp.
Most of the clothes come from collections made by VERY dodgy "charities". We`ve all had black bin bags with badly printed labels on them pushed through our doors.
The drugs SHOULD have been nipped in the bud, but no matter who is to blame, it wasn`t.
The pirate DVDs would not exist if the public were not being ripped off by the "legitimate" DVD manufacturers. Lets not forget, MOST DVDs were in the cinemas, and older ones were originally available on video too. So I have no sympathy for the DVD industry AT ALL.
Cap all DVDs at £5 ........ problem vanishes if it is coupled with HEAVY sentences for manufacturing of any DVDs of films currently in the cinemas.
They can`t move to the Barras or Blochairn since they are not open every day.
Besides, Blochairn on a Sunday is now rife with fake DVDs, stolen goods, copied games, bootleg fags, programmed cable NTL/Virgin boxes ..... the list is endless.
The BIGGEST and most ironic thing about all of this?????? Blochairn in one day is worse than Paddys six days, AND BLOCHAIRN IS COUNCIL OWNED AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Hoof Hearted, GlasVegas on 3:00pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
[quote]could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market[/quote] Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street. [/quote] Bah Humbug, eh Stewie?
What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong.
Stewie Griffin wrote:
could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
Bah Humbug, eh Stewie?
What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong.
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 3:01pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]thistlemad[/bold] wrote:
First of all, I make my money from buying and selling 2nd hand goods of all descriptions, so I know A LITTLE of what goes on. Electrical items sold there VERY rarely work and are sold illegally since they have no electrical safety stamp. Most of the clothes come from collections made by VERY dodgy "charities". We`ve all had black bin bags with badly printed labels on them pushed through our doors. The drugs SHOULD have been nipped in the bud, but no matter who is to blame, it wasn`t. The pirate DVDs would not exist if the public were not being ripped off by the "legitimate" DVD manufacturers. Lets not forget, MOST DVDs were in the cinemas, and older ones were originally available on video too. So I have no sympathy for the DVD industry AT ALL. Cap all DVDs at £5 ........ problem vanishes if it is coupled with HEAVY sentences for manufacturing of any DVDs of films currently in the cinemas. They can`t move to the Barras or Blochairn since they are not open every day. Besides, Blochairn on a Sunday is now rife with fake DVDs, stolen goods, copied games, bootleg fags, programmed cable NTL/Virgin boxes ..... the list is endless. The BIGGEST and most ironic thing about all of this?????? Blochairn in one day is worse than Paddys six days, AND BLOCHAIRN IS COUNCIL OWNED AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Tell then son,half these halfwits dont have a scoobie dooooooooo they hammer on talking alot of s8ite the story was just another headline that will reappear in 2 years time when there"s nothing else to print
thistlemad wrote:
First of all, I make my money from buying and selling 2nd hand goods of all descriptions, so I know A LITTLE of what goes on. Electrical items sold there VERY rarely work and are sold illegally since they have no electrical safety stamp. Most of the clothes come from collections made by VERY dodgy "charities". We`ve all had black bin bags with badly printed labels on them pushed through our doors. The drugs SHOULD have been nipped in the bud, but no matter who is to blame, it wasn`t. The pirate DVDs would not exist if the public were not being ripped off by the "legitimate" DVD manufacturers. Lets not forget, MOST DVDs were in the cinemas, and older ones were originally available on video too. So I have no sympathy for the DVD industry AT ALL. Cap all DVDs at £5 ........ problem vanishes if it is coupled with HEAVY sentences for manufacturing of any DVDs of films currently in the cinemas. They can`t move to the Barras or Blochairn since they are not open every day. Besides, Blochairn on a Sunday is now rife with fake DVDs, stolen goods, copied games, bootleg fags, programmed cable NTL/Virgin boxes ..... the list is endless. The BIGGEST and most ironic thing about all of this?????? Blochairn in one day is worse than Paddys six days, AND BLOCHAIRN IS COUNCIL OWNED AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell then son,half these halfwits dont have a scoobie dooooooooo they hammer on talking alot of s8ite the story was just another headline that will reappear in 2 years time when there"s nothing else to print
Posted by: Pete, Glasgow on 3:32pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Hoof Hearted[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: [quote]could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market[/quote] Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street. [/quote] Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong. [/quote] I'm with Stewie on that one.
It's not an 'anti-german' rant, it's an 'anti old sh!te' rant.
Hoof Hearted wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote: could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong.
I'm with Stewie on that one.
It's not an 'anti-german' rant, it's an 'anti old sh!te' rant.
Posted by: Hoof Hearted, GlasVegas on 3:41pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Hoof Hearted[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: [quote]could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market[/quote] Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street. [/quote] Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong. [/quote] I'm with Stewie on that one. It's not an 'anti-german' rant, it's an 'anti old sh!te' rant. [/quote] Pete, you fool.
Stewie hates the Gerry's.
I appreciate that you may dislike the market for the products and I accept that as a valid point, but old Stewie is just bitter and hates our fellow europeans for no valid reason.
Pete wrote:
Hoof Hearted wrote: Stewie Griffin wrote: could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong.
I'm with Stewie on that one. It's not an 'anti-german' rant, it's an 'anti old sh!te' rant.
Pete, you fool.
Stewie hates the Gerry's.
I appreciate that you may dislike the market for the products and I accept that as a valid point, but old Stewie is just bitter and hates our fellow europeans for no valid reason.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:08pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Hoof Hearted[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Hoof Hearted[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: [quote]could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market[/quote] Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street. [/quote] Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong. [/quote] I'm with Stewie on that one. It's not an 'anti-german' rant, it's an 'anti old sh!te' rant. [/quote] Pete, you fool. Stewie hates the Gerry's. I appreciate that you may dislike the market for the products and I accept that as a valid point, but old Stewie is just bitter and hates our fellow europeans for no valid reason.[/quote] Well Hoof they do good art movies lol
I like their food and their women are out of this world
However Stewie, who's to say Glasgow wouldn't have received so much destruction, the aftermath of which that we see today (Westminster) if Hitler had won the battle of the fascists? For which the war in Europe was.
My grandfather was a POW in Burma, does that mean I'm supposed to hate Japanese people?
Sorry, I would actually love to go to Japan, one of the leading countires in the world, for which Scotland was far ahead of them not too long ago, as a result of crippling British policy stewie, we are now a joke.
Please stop being so insular, rather a cheap (Alf Garnett) comment from you, surprised more than anything else.
Hoof Hearted wrote:
Pete wrote: Hoof Hearted wrote: Stewie Griffin wrote: could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong.
I'm with Stewie on that one. It's not an 'anti-german' rant, it's an 'anti old sh!te' rant.
Pete, you fool. Stewie hates the Gerry's. I appreciate that you may dislike the market for the products and I accept that as a valid point, but old Stewie is just bitter and hates our fellow europeans for no valid reason.
Well Hoof they do good art movies lol
I like their food and their women are out of this world
However Stewie, who's to say Glasgow wouldn't have received so much destruction, the aftermath of which that we see today (Westminster) if Hitler had won the battle of the fascists? For which the war in Europe was.
My grandfather was a POW in Burma, does that mean I'm supposed to hate Japanese people?
Sorry, I would actually love to go to Japan, one of the leading countires in the world, for which Scotland was far ahead of them not too long ago, as a result of crippling British policy stewie, we are now a joke.
Please stop being so insular, rather a cheap (Alf Garnett) comment from you, surprised more than anything else.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:16pm Wed 10 Sep 08
In fact Stewie, my mate is moving to Southampton, he's actually glad, because this place was depressing him, now he's giving it "Ah hear ma train a comin"
Who can blame him? He is being offered the job of his life that he wouldn't have got in Glasgow, so why stay here to be a Jobbyseeker, graduating to Incapacity, when clearly, there is opportunity elsewhere as a result of unionist neglect upon Scotland?
If I could get a chance, I would do that too.
That's another native moved Mr Purcell, many more will follow suit.
Pathetic
In fact Stewie, my mate is moving to Southampton, he's actually glad, because this place was depressing him, now he's giving it "Ah hear ma train a comin"
Who can blame him? He is being offered the job of his life that he wouldn't have got in Glasgow, so why stay here to be a Jobbyseeker, graduating to Incapacity, when clearly, there is opportunity elsewhere as a result of unionist neglect upon Scotland?
If I could get a chance, I would do that too.
That's another native moved Mr Purcell, many more will follow suit.
Pathetic
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 5:26pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]The Missing City[/bold] wrote:
In fact Stewie, my mate is moving to Southampton, he's actually glad, because this place was depressing him, now he's giving it "Ah hear ma train a comin" Who can blame him? He is being offered the job of his life that he wouldn't have got in Glasgow, so why stay here to be a Jobbyseeker, graduating to Incapacity, when clearly, there is opportunity elsewhere as a result of unionist neglect upon Scotland? If I could get a chance, I would do that too. That's another native moved Mr Purcell, many more will follow suit. Pathetic [/quote] That said, that doesn't mean England is "The Daddy" but there is more choice with regards to opportunities than what is available here.
I know someone who has been filing in various jobs for the past ten years.
This person came up to me the other day and said... "When are you qualified as a filer, how many years do you have to prove that you can file **** in alphabetical order before someone decides that you are experienced, and you can go on to something further?"
My reply was that half of Glasgow is sitting in officves filing, if its not filing its taking phone calls or sorting out the social problems of the "other half of this crazy city, which the ET and GCC seem to ignore.
Enuff said, any more of this and I might have to put a claim in for incapacity, and milk it like everybody else.
The Missing City wrote:
In fact Stewie, my mate is moving to Southampton, he's actually glad, because this place was depressing him, now he's giving it "Ah hear ma train a comin" Who can blame him? He is being offered the job of his life that he wouldn't have got in Glasgow, so why stay here to be a Jobbyseeker, graduating to Incapacity, when clearly, there is opportunity elsewhere as a result of unionist neglect upon Scotland? If I could get a chance, I would do that too. That's another native moved Mr Purcell, many more will follow suit. Pathetic
That said, that doesn't mean England is "The Daddy" but there is more choice with regards to opportunities than what is available here.
I know someone who has been filing in various jobs for the past ten years.
This person came up to me the other day and said... "When are you qualified as a filer, how many years do you have to prove that you can file **** in alphabetical order before someone decides that you are experienced, and you can go on to something further?"
My reply was that half of Glasgow is sitting in officves filing, if its not filing its taking phone calls or sorting out the social problems of the "other half of this crazy city, which the ET and GCC seem to ignore.
Enuff said, any more of this and I might have to put a claim in for incapacity, and milk it like everybody else.
Posted by: Hoof Hearted, GlasVegas on 6:05pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote]Well Hoof they do good art movies lol
[/quote]
Ya, das good. I bet you can get a few of them down Paddy's market.
[quote]I like their food and their women are out of this world[/quote]
I'm more akin to their beer, and while yes, on the outside their women are pretty, my worry is the excess body hair they may be concealing.
Germany's only downside............
. Bertie Vogts!
Well Hoof they do good art movies lol
Ya, das good. I bet you can get a few of them down Paddy's market.
I like their food and their women are out of this world
I'm more akin to their beer, and while yes, on the outside their women are pretty, my worry is the excess body hair they may be concealing.
Germany's only downside............
. Bertie Vogts!
Posted by: think, glasgow on 6:12pm Wed 10 Sep 08
so england has more opportunities than glasgow - well, who would have guessed ! how many years did it take it your mate to realise that ? england as a whole always will have.
so england has more opportunities than glasgow - well, who would have guessed ! how many years did it take it your mate to realise that ? england as a whole always will have.
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 6:41pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote][bold]think[/bold] wrote:
so england has more opportunities than glasgow - well, who would have guessed ! how many years did it take it your mate to realise that ? england as a whole always will have. [/quote] It only took him a couple of weeks actually since he graduated from uni with his honours back in June.
Most of his job interviews have been in England - but only one in Glasgow and one in Renfrew - they didn't want him, their loss, besides, he's sick of looking at bad news and junkies and authority keeps the bad engine running
Engineering is his forte
Electrical and Mechanical Engineering to be precise and not Social Engineering unfortunately!
He was wanting to go further afield, but he thinks that will be in the future.
I may not be all that far behind him - I must be a pur **** for believing that I could stick it out here and get something
Looks like Glasgow has failed me as well.
think wrote:
so england has more opportunities than glasgow - well, who would have guessed ! how many years did it take it your mate to realise that ? england as a whole always will have.
It only took him a couple of weeks actually since he graduated from uni with his honours back in June.
Most of his job interviews have been in England - but only one in Glasgow and one in Renfrew - they didn't want him, their loss, besides, he's sick of looking at bad news and junkies and authority keeps the bad engine running
Engineering is his forte
Electrical and Mechanical Engineering to be precise and not Social Engineering unfortunately!
He was wanting to go further afield, but he thinks that will be in the future.
I may not be all that far behind him - I must be a pur **** for believing that I could stick it out here and get something
Looks like Glasgow has failed me as well.
Posted by: roor06, glasgow on 7:20pm Wed 10 Sep 08
I am saddened by this news ...
So whats in store GCC ? ...
I know, how about an innovative night spot operated and owned by Stefan King ...
I am saddened by this news ...
So whats in store GCC ? ...
I know, how about an innovative night spot operated and owned by Stefan King ...
Posted by: Johnny Punchclock, Glasgow on 8:08pm Wed 10 Sep 08
[quote]"Not only that, there are people who have invested significant capital in their businesses here who will lose that without any compensation whatsoever.[/quote] Could someone explain to me what capital you would need to invest in running a stall at Paddy's Market other than a couple of rolls of heavy duty bin-bags from Lidl?
"Not only that, there are people who have invested significant capital in their businesses here who will lose that without any compensation whatsoever.
Could someone explain to me what capital you would need to invest in running a stall at Paddy's Market other than a couple of rolls of heavy duty bin-bags from Lidl?
Posted by: lavalamp, coatbridge on 9:14pm Wed 10 Sep 08
Get rid of the traders who are all NEDS and there customers who are also NEDS will go away, now thats what I class as a good idea ....
..WELL DONE... GLASGOW DISTRICT COUNCIL
Get rid of the traders who are all NEDS and there customers who are also NEDS will go away, now thats what I class as a good idea ....
..WELL DONE... GLASGOW DISTRICT COUNCIL
Posted by: Senga Haw, Milngavie on 10:24pm Wed 10 Sep 08
lavvylamp, Coatbridge
You are a wind up merchant (your previous posts have slagged off Glasgow and praised Brigadoon-on-Forth, Nedinburgh).
It is GLASGOW [bold]CITY[/bold] COUNCIL.
Good riddance Paddy's Market, the market for trash (no doubt frequented by many Coatbridgeites).
lavvylamp, Coatbridge
You are a wind up merchant (your previous posts have slagged off Glasgow and praised Brigadoon-on-Forth, Nedinburgh).
It is GLASGOW
CITY COUNCIL.
Good riddance Paddy's Market, the market for trash (no doubt frequented by many Coatbridgeites).
Posted by: jim, Glasgow on 8:30am Thu 11 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Hoof Hearted[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote: [quote]could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market[/quote] Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street. [/quote] Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong. [/quote] Its a car park they are putting above Buchanan st bus station,
Hoof Hearted wrote:
Stewie Griffin wrote: could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
Bah Humbug, eh Stewie? What do you have against the Germans? Get over it man, the war's over. Leave your anti-german rants in the history books where they belong.
Its a car park they are putting above Buchanan st bus station,
Posted by: Smooth Rider, Renfrewshire on 12:41pm Thu 11 Sep 08
[quote][bold]newbie[/bold] wrote:
I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?[/quote] Got to agree there. I would not take my kids a mile near that place. Most of the traders are selling counterfeit and knocked off goods and it is like zombies dawn of the dead with all the junkies stoating about. I do feel sorry as their are some legitimate traders there but not many.
newbie wrote:
I'm probably going to flamed for this but: I have lived across the road from Paddy's from 1995. When I moved in it was a thriving market and there were no problems with it. At least, I didn't see any. Every night the traders packed up all their stuff and the place was quite clean by about 6ish or so. Now it's a dump. I also read that there are drugs and sales of illegal merchandise going on. So, if the traders who have been there a long time are devastated at its closure, why didn't they get together when the problems started and DO something about it. After all, if there were drugs and illegal goods being sold in other trading communities such as St Enoch's or the Buchanan centre (I don't like either centre), the traders there wouldn't have stood for it. Comments?
Got to agree there. I would not take my kids a mile near that place. Most of the traders are selling counterfeit and knocked off goods and it is like zombies dawn of the dead with all the junkies stoating about. I do feel sorry as their are some legitimate traders there but not many.
Posted by: annie, Glasgow on 1:40pm Thu 11 Sep 08
[quote][bold]marty[/bold] wrote:
"Innocent, decent traders", "Cultural heritage"? Come on! The reality is Paddy's is a cesspit of pirate DVD and junk sellers! There's no place in the 21st century for this Steptoe-esque eyesore! Congratulations to the council for acting to close this place down for the benefit of all the city's residents![/quote] As someone who is proud of many aspects of Glasgow I have to say I agree entirely with this post and other similar ones. I have no doubt there must have been a number of legitimate traders in Paddys Market but they could not possibly have been in the majority going by what was on sale and the drugged up state of lots of people hanging around. The whole thing looked entirely like a front for criminal activity. Good riddance I say.
marty wrote:
"Innocent, decent traders", "Cultural heritage"? Come on! The reality is Paddy's is a cesspit of pirate DVD and junk sellers! There's no place in the 21st century for this Steptoe-esque eyesore! Congratulations to the council for acting to close this place down for the benefit of all the city's residents!
As someone who is proud of many aspects of Glasgow I have to say I agree entirely with this post and other similar ones. I have no doubt there must have been a number of legitimate traders in Paddys Market but they could not possibly have been in the majority going by what was on sale and the drugged up state of lots of people hanging around. The whole thing looked entirely like a front for criminal activity. Good riddance I say.
Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 2:30pm Thu 11 Sep 08
[quote][bold]Stewie Griffin[/bold] wrote:
[quote]could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market[/quote] Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street. [/quote] Bah Humbug! I love an authentic Bratwurst with Sauerkraut when the German market moves in!!
Stewie Griffin wrote:
could we not be like other cities and maybe have a large covered market
Well they are roofing over the Buchanan Bus Station to give us an even bigger Buchanan Galleries.... They do give us that horrible German market at Christmas time selling vile food and dodgy goods and it takes up the most of the pedestrian part of Argyle Street.
Bah Humbug! I love an authentic Bratwurst with Sauerkraut when the German market moves in!!
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