Posted by: The thinking alternative, City centre on 11:31am Fri 3 Oct 08
Perhaps the council could do something with the very high profile derelict site that Selfridges are sitting on in the Merchant City. I'm sure plenty of interest will be shown by other developers after a compulsory purchase order.
Perhaps the council could do something with the very high profile derelict site that Selfridges are sitting on in the Merchant City. I'm sure plenty of interest will be shown by other developers after a compulsory purchase order.
Posted by: calamero, Glasgow on 11:35am Fri 3 Oct 08
Unfortunately its a bit like the boy with his finger in the dyke during a hurricane - there is too much to do and never enough money.
For years Glasgow has redeveloped isolated sites with rubbish between them and the gaps never get filled due to the money or enthusiasm running out. The poor quality gaps then have a negative affect on the new sites and so it goes on.
There should be much more targetting of investment to ensure areas get a critical mass that is then self suststaining although this would probably condem other areas to be left to rot.
Not sure there is an answer............
Unfortunately its a bit like the boy with his finger in the dyke during a hurricane - there is too much to do and never enough money.
For years Glasgow has redeveloped isolated sites with rubbish between them and the gaps never get filled due to the money or enthusiasm running out. The poor quality gaps then have a negative affect on the new sites and so it goes on.
There should be much more targetting of investment to ensure areas get a critical mass that is then self suststaining although this would probably condem other areas to be left to rot.
Not sure there is an answer............
Posted by: Brad on 12:04pm Fri 3 Oct 08
calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG
ames/M74/EERRoute package.
More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use.
And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?
calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG
ames/M74/EERRoute package.
More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use.
And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 12:14pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the [bold]wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014[/bold]... [italic]no price too low[/italic]!!!
I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow.
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the
wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014...
no price too low!!!
I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow.
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Scott, Airdrie on 1:18pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the [bold]wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014[/bold]... [italic]no price too low[/italic]!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own.
You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014... no price too low!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own.
You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 1:26pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?[/quote] I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well.
And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye.
He doesn't love you - get over it dear.
Brad wrote:
calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?
I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well.
And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye.
He doesn't love you - get over it dear.
Posted by: Brad on 1:40pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote]your failed affair with Steven Purcell[/quote]
It must be something like that. Syd knows that Council leaders are not like some kind of omnipotent beings. GCC employs very experienced and well-paid officials like George Black, the Chief Exec, and Steve Inch, Exec Director of Dev't & Regen Services. They've have far more influence, even if they don't get their pictures in the ET. Council leaders are largely guided by their senior officers - yet Syd can only see Purcell. Don't know what the problem is but it's deeply personal.
your failed affair with Steven Purcell
It must be something like that. Syd knows that Council leaders are not like some kind of omnipotent beings. GCC employs very experienced and well-paid officials like George Black, the Chief Exec, and Steve Inch, Exec Director of Dev't & Regen Services. They've have far more influence, even if they don't get their pictures in the ET. Council leaders are largely guided by their senior officers - yet Syd can only see Purcell. Don't know what the problem is but it's deeply personal.
Posted by: calamero, Glasgow on 2:22pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Brad
I agree - Your large scale park would be a good idea as long and a positive legacy as it does not get downgraded into a GEAR type tart up of gap sites.
Perhaps the other sites could be developed on a shared basis with land gifted to developers on the condition that matching areas are improved for the city at no cost. This could get over the hurdle of lack of finance but would require some leap of imagination by many and before you start SM, who cares if it is sold at a low price or given away, if the end result is improvement, it benefits all round, including the council with increased council tax. Its clear that some of the areas listed will struggle to get going, even giving it away and that is a pretty poor indictment.
Brad
I agree - Your large scale park would be a good idea as long and a positive legacy as it does not get downgraded into a GEAR type tart up of gap sites.
Perhaps the other sites could be developed on a shared basis with land gifted to developers on the condition that matching areas are improved for the city at no cost. This could get over the hurdle of lack of finance but would require some leap of imagination by many and before you start SM, who cares if it is sold at a low price or given away, if the end result is improvement, it benefits all round, including the council with increased council tax. Its clear that some of the areas listed will struggle to get going, even giving it away and that is a pretty poor indictment.
Posted by: Number8, Glasgow on 2:31pm Fri 3 Oct 08
HOW DAE WE NO JIST USE THE DERELICT SITES FUR HOMELESS PEOPLE? STICK A BIG FENCE ROON IT AND PADLOCK THE GATE, THEN SUMDY CAN TAKE THEM IN FOOD AND BLANKETS N THAT?
HOW DAE WE NO JIST USE THE DERELICT SITES FUR HOMELESS PEOPLE? STICK A BIG FENCE ROON IT AND PADLOCK THE GATE, THEN SUMDY CAN TAKE THEM IN FOOD AND BLANKETS N THAT?
Posted by: glasgowguy, glasgow on 2:32pm Fri 3 Oct 08
dont waste your time scott sydney is nothing but a bag of wind and with a name like that id be p***ed off too just skip past his comment without reading it thats what i do i could tell you what it say's anyway because its the same old bulls**t i just feel sory for his wife
dont waste your time scott sydney is nothing but a bag of wind and with a name like that id be p***ed off too just skip past his comment without reading it thats what i do i could tell you what it say's anyway because its the same old bulls**t i just feel sory for his wife
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:43pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Scott[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the [bold]wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014[/bold]... [italic]no price too low[/italic]!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own.
You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?[/quote] Och it's the daft wee Scott fae Airdrie finally worked up the courage to 'show his face' here again after I wiped the floor with him over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates (now officially the worst in the UK, of course)... we don't hear much from him on that one any more do we???
It's a shame you didn't use your time away to learn to read - what I'm highlighting here is [bold]60 years of Labour failure[/bold] in Glasgow, but then again that's something you'd like to skip over isn't it dafty!
Come on let's have your, ahem, valued opinion on Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates, we all enjoy a laugh on Friday and that's always a winner!
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
Scott wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014... no price too low!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own.
You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?
Och it's the daft wee Scott fae Airdrie finally worked up the courage to 'show his face' here again after I wiped the floor with him over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates (now officially the worst in the UK, of course)... we don't hear much from him on that one any more do we???
It's a shame you didn't use your time away to learn to read - what I'm highlighting here is
60 years of Labour failure in Glasgow, but then again that's something you'd like to skip over isn't it dafty!
Come on let's have your, ahem, valued opinion on Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates, we all enjoy a laugh on Friday and that's always a winner!
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:52pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]calamero[/bold] wrote:
Brad
I agree - Your large scale park would be a good idea as long and a positive legacy as it does not get downgraded into a GEAR type tart up of gap sites.
Perhaps the other sites could be developed on a shared basis with land gifted to developers on the condition that matching areas are improved for the city at no cost. This could get over the hurdle of lack of finance but would require some leap of imagination by many and before you start SM, who cares if it is sold at a low price or given away, if the end result is improvement, it benefits all round, including the council with increased council tax. Its clear that some of the areas listed will struggle to get going, even giving it away and that is a pretty poor indictment.[/quote] Ooooh nice one calamero, [bold]the old trickle-down economics argument dusted down and given a wee lick of Glasgow paint[/bold]... of course it doesn't work: £500+ MILLION of GEAR money pumped into Glasgow's East End and [bold]still it has the worst poverty, highest unemployment and worst health, etc, etc of anywhere in the UK[/bold].
Come on use your brain son, throwing money at rich 'consultants' and developers only makes them richer at the taxpayers' expense... [italic]now have another try laddie, I'm bored this afternoon[/italic]...
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
calamero wrote:
Brad
I agree - Your large scale park would be a good idea as long and a positive legacy as it does not get downgraded into a GEAR type tart up of gap sites.
Perhaps the other sites could be developed on a shared basis with land gifted to developers on the condition that matching areas are improved for the city at no cost. This could get over the hurdle of lack of finance but would require some leap of imagination by many and before you start SM, who cares if it is sold at a low price or given away, if the end result is improvement, it benefits all round, including the council with increased council tax. Its clear that some of the areas listed will struggle to get going, even giving it away and that is a pretty poor indictment.
Ooooh nice one calamero,
the old trickle-down economics argument dusted down and given a wee lick of Glasgow paint... of course it doesn't work: £500+ MILLION of GEAR money pumped into Glasgow's East End and
still it has the worst poverty, highest unemployment and worst health, etc, etc of anywhere in the UK.
Come on use your brain son, throwing money at rich 'consultants' and developers only makes them richer at the taxpayers' expense...
now have another try laddie, I'm bored this afternoon...
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:55pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
[quote]your failed affair with Steven Purcell[/quote]
It must be something like that. Syd knows that Council leaders are not like some kind of omnipotent beings. GCC employs very experienced and well-paid officials like George Black, the Chief Exec, and Steve Inch, Exec Director of Dev't & Regen Services. They've have far more influence, even if they don't get their pictures in the ET. Council leaders are largely guided by their senior officers - yet Syd can only see Purcell. Don't know what the problem is but it's deeply personal.[/quote] Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
Brad wrote:
your failed affair with Steven Purcell
It must be something like that. Syd knows that Council leaders are not like some kind of omnipotent beings. GCC employs very experienced and well-paid officials like George Black, the Chief Exec, and Steve Inch, Exec Director of Dev't & Regen Services. They've have far more influence, even if they don't get their pictures in the ET. Council leaders are largely guided by their senior officers - yet Syd can only see Purcell. Don't know what the problem is but it's deeply personal.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 2:58pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]glasgowguy[/bold] wrote:
dont waste your time scott sydney is nothing but a bag of wind and with a name like that id be p***ed off too just skip past his comment without reading it thats what i do i could tell you what it say's anyway because its the same old bulls**t i just feel sory for his wife [/quote] [bold]Wow[/bold]... your skills at ignoring people must be as well-developed as your intelligence! [bold];-)[/bold]
[italic]Come on, ignore me again... there's a good wee boy...[/italic]
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
glasgowguy wrote:
dont waste your time scott sydney is nothing but a bag of wind and with a name like that id be p***ed off too just skip past his comment without reading it thats what i do i could tell you what it say's anyway because its the same old bulls**t i just feel sory for his wife
Wow... your skills at ignoring people must be as well-developed as your intelligence!
;-)
Come on, ignore me again... there's a good wee boy...
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 3:02pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?[/quote] I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well.
And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye.
He doesn't love you - get over it dear.[/quote] Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger!
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
Fanto wrote:
Brad wrote:
calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?
I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well.
And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye.
He doesn't love you - get over it dear.
Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger!
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Brad on 3:13pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote]I'm bored this afternoon...[/quote]
Syd, if you're bored, perhaps you shoudl consider doing something useful or positive. You should be open to new experiences.
I'm bored this afternoon...
Syd, if you're bored, perhaps you shoudl consider doing something useful or positive. You should be open to new experiences.
Posted by: George Brown, glasgow on 3:32pm Fri 3 Oct 08
I'd like to know, how in this day and age of modern technology the evening times still managed a misprint. surely the figure 60% should read 90%
I'd like to know, how in this day and age of modern technology the evening times still managed a misprint. surely the figure 60% should read 90%
Posted by: Brad on 3:36pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]George Brown[/bold] wrote:
I'd like to know, how in this day and age of modern technology the evening times still managed a misprint. surely the figure 60% should read 90% [/quote] depends if you're talking about Weegie wimmin or vacant/derelict land
George Brown wrote:
I'd like to know, how in this day and age of modern technology the evening times still managed a misprint. surely the figure 60% should read 90%
depends if you're talking about Weegie wimmin or vacant/derelict land
Posted by: Fanto, Glasgow on 3:38pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote: calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?[/quote] I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well. And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye. He doesn't love you - get over it dear.[/quote] Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger! -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] I am far from being a homophobe. I just recognise unrequited love and feel you should fess up Syd. There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Fanto wrote: Brad wrote: calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?
I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well. And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye. He doesn't love you - get over it dear.
Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger! -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
I am far from being a homophobe. I just recognise unrequited love and feel you should fess up Syd. There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell.
Posted by: Brad on 3:45pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote]There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell[/quote]
I wouldn't bet on that, Fanto. With the strength of feeling Syd has for Stevie, I think it'd be X-rated stuff...
There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell
I wouldn't bet on that, Fanto. With the strength of feeling Syd has for Stevie, I think it'd be X-rated stuff...
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:25pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fanto[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote: calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?[/quote] I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well. And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye. He doesn't love you - get over it dear.[/quote] Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger! -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] I am far from being a homophobe. I just recognise unrequited love and feel you should fess up Syd. There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell.[/quote] Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger!
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
Fanto wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Fanto wrote: Brad wrote: calamero, there are lots of answers, just not always the will, cash, imagination to implement them. I suppose the "critical mass" you refer to is part of the justification for the ClydeGateway/CommieG ames/M74/EERRoute package. More fundamentally, places like Glasgow should have more ability to use financial incentives to make these areas attractive, and more power to invest in basic infrastructure - large parts of those areas blighted by dereliction don't actually have water and sewage capacity for much redevelopment and they're not a Scottish Water priority. In the 1850s, Glasgow's pioneering Loch Katrine scheme facilitated huge expansion in the city - that sort of vision isn't realisable. Perhaps also a bit of stick... much of the vacant and derelict land is in public ownership - perhaps it should be taxed at an increasing rate as an incentive to return it productive use. And from the leftfield, what about a couple of major new parks? A 21st century Pollok Park in the East End? Wouldn't that be a worthwhile legacy for any administration?
I totally agree with you about Parks, Brad. It seems we have a need to fill space with either another supermarket or lego style flats. The land set aside for Tesco at Partick is a good example of what could be a really nice area for everyone to use and enjoy. I am sure the family of deer that live there would prefer it as well. And Sydney, no matter how much you rant on about the council, we all know it's because of your failed affair with Steven Purcell. It's like school when you are always nasty to the folk you fancy. Ranting away and frothing at the mouth isn't going to help you catch his eye. He doesn't love you - get over it dear.
Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger! -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
I am far from being a homophobe. I just recognise unrequited love and feel you should fess up Syd. There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell.
Ah, yet more vile homophobic utterances from a our resident filth-monger!
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, Glasgow on 4:26pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
[quote]There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell[/quote]
I wouldn't bet on that, Fanto. With the strength of feeling Syd has for Stevie, I think it'd be X-rated stuff...[/quote] Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
Brad wrote:
There's nothing dirty about the way you feel about Mr Purcell
I wouldn't bet on that, Fanto. With the strength of feeling Syd has for Stevie, I think it'd be X-rated stuff...
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: Scott, Airdrie on 5:07pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote: Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the [bold]wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014[/bold]... [italic]no price too low[/italic]!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own. You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?[/quote] Och it's the daft wee Scott fae Airdrie finally worked up the courage to 'show his face' here again after I wiped the floor with him over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates (now officially the worst in the UK, of course)... we don't hear much from him on that one any more do we??? It's a shame you didn't use your time away to learn to read - what I'm highlighting here is [bold]60 years of Labour failure[/bold] in Glasgow, but then again that's something you'd like to skip over isn't it dafty! Come on let's have your, ahem, valued opinion on Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates, we all enjoy a laugh on Friday and that's always a winner! -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] Time to let go of some of your delusions, Sydney....
1. I was not part of the discussion you refer to in your fantasy of "wiping the floor" with me
2. You couldn't wipe the floor if I gave you a mop
3. Unlike you, I have a life outside this website
4. It's time you learned the difference between winning an argument on the merits of your case and the way they are put forward, and grinding people into submission by recycling the same boring rubbish until people can't bear to look at the discussion any more.
Stick to the topic instead of harking back to another discussion that you think you won, despite being on your own.....
Do you ever actually pay any attention to facts and the truth, or are you too busy hiding behind your PC massaging your ego?
Poor, deluded fool, losing your grip on reality - I pity you.
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Scott wrote: Sydney Meriwether wrote: Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014... no price too low!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own. You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?
Och it's the daft wee Scott fae Airdrie finally worked up the courage to 'show his face' here again after I wiped the floor with him over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates (now officially the worst in the UK, of course)... we don't hear much from him on that one any more do we??? It's a shame you didn't use your time away to learn to read - what I'm highlighting here is 60 years of Labour failure in Glasgow, but then again that's something you'd like to skip over isn't it dafty! Come on let's have your, ahem, valued opinion on Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates, we all enjoy a laugh on Friday and that's always a winner! -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
Time to let go of some of your delusions, Sydney....
1. I was not part of the discussion you refer to in your fantasy of "wiping the floor" with me
2. You couldn't wipe the floor if I gave you a mop
3. Unlike you, I have a life outside this website
4. It's time you learned the difference between winning an argument on the merits of your case and the way they are put forward, and grinding people into submission by recycling the same boring rubbish until people can't bear to look at the discussion any more.
Stick to the topic instead of harking back to another discussion that you think you won, despite being on your own.....
Do you ever actually pay any attention to facts and the truth, or are you too busy hiding behind your PC massaging your ego?
Poor, deluded fool, losing your grip on reality - I pity you.
Posted by: Brad on 5:42pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote]How many people have to disagree with you and ridicule you before you consider the possibility that you might be wrong[/quote]
I'd estimate about 6 billion squillion.
How many people have to disagree with you and ridicule you before you consider the possibility that you might be wrong
I'd estimate about 6 billion squillion.
Posted by: Scott, Airdrie on 6:01pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Must be nearly there, then.
Must be nearly there, then.
Posted by: People Power, Glasgow on 6:15pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Derelict land ? - How about the land masses accross the country, never mind city - all bought up by Tesco, including the huge site at Beith Street Partick, lying empty for 5 years.
Also, Glasgows Harbourside Flats are referred to as "monolithic eyesores". They may have wonderful views along the Clyde, but what about the rest of Partick & surrounding areas.
How many now just see these towering monstrosities as completely dwarfing their surroundings, and shuting in the Clyde far more.
The Clyde walkways are meant to be open and spacious, not encompassed by Private, elite developments along much of its lengths.
Derelict land is not just there to be built on, by Private Developers for the more well off in society. Communities, and their Community Councils must have more of an influence or say on the planning process, and the type of housing being built in their areas.
Derelict land ? - How about the land masses accross the country, never mind city - all bought up by Tesco, including the huge site at Beith Street Partick, lying empty for 5 years.
Also, Glasgows Harbourside Flats are referred to as "monolithic eyesores". They may have wonderful views along the Clyde, but what about the rest of Partick & surrounding areas.
How many now just see these towering monstrosities as completely dwarfing their surroundings, and shuting in the Clyde far more.
The Clyde walkways are meant to be open and spacious, not encompassed by Private, elite developments along much of its lengths.
Derelict land is not just there to be built on, by Private Developers for the more well off in society. Communities, and their Community Councils must have more of an influence or say on the planning process, and the type of housing being built in their areas.
Posted by: Sydney Meriwether, At home on 10:41am Mon 6 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Scott[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Scott[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sydney Meriwether[/bold] wrote: Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the [bold]wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014[/bold]... [italic]no price too low[/italic]!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own. You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?[/quote] Och it's the daft wee Scott fae Airdrie finally worked up the courage to 'show his face' here again after I wiped the floor with him over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates (now officially the worst in the UK, of course)... we don't hear much from him on that one any more do we??? It's a shame you didn't use your time away to learn to read - what I'm highlighting here is [bold]60 years of Labour failure[/bold] in Glasgow, but then again that's something you'd like to skip over isn't it dafty! Come on let's have your, ahem, valued opinion on Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates, we all enjoy a laugh on Friday and that's always a winner! -- Sydney Meriwether [italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic] [/quote] Time to let go of some of your delusions, Sydney....
1. I was not part of the discussion you refer to in your fantasy of "wiping the floor" with me
2. You couldn't wipe the floor if I gave you a mop
3. Unlike you, I have a life outside this website
4. It's time you learned the difference between winning an argument on the merits of your case and the way they are put forward, and grinding people into submission by recycling the same boring rubbish until people can't bear to look at the discussion any more.
Stick to the topic instead of harking back to another discussion that you think you won, despite being on your own.....
Do you ever actually pay any attention to facts and the truth, or are you too busy hiding behind your PC massaging your ego?
Poor, deluded fool, losing your grip on reality - I pity you.[/quote] Och well, I didn't think you'd want to mention [bold]Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates[/bold] - now officially the fastest falling in the UK!
Just try and get over it and put all this petty bitterness behind you, there's a good wee lad.
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Sydney Meriwether
[italic]The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.[/italic]
Scott wrote:
Sydney Meriwether wrote:
Scott wrote: Sydney Meriwether wrote: Ah, how nice, an early artillery barrage from the Evening Times to soften up the people of Glasgow for the wholesale flogging-off of their own land to fund the tacky Diddy Games in 2014... no price too low!!! I see the unused land as simply yet more evidence of the continuing incompetence of a perpetually failing New Labour city council - full of greed and self-interest - to properly diversify the city economy and deliver sustainable economic well-being for the people of Glasgow. -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
Predictable, tedious, boring....as usual, all negative and no ideas of your own. You're the first to complain if anyone wants to develop any part of Glasgow in a way that doesn't suit your narrow mind, and you also complain at the prospect of this land being developed. Would you rather the land was retained in its present derelict state with no income generated? The fact that no-one wants to do anything with it is not the fault of the Council, or can't you grasp simple facts?
Och it's the daft wee Scott fae Airdrie finally worked up the courage to 'show his face' here again after I wiped the floor with him over Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates (now officially the worst in the UK, of course)... we don't hear much from him on that one any more do we??? It's a shame you didn't use your time away to learn to read - what I'm highlighting here is 60 years of Labour failure in Glasgow, but then again that's something you'd like to skip over isn't it dafty! Come on let's have your, ahem, valued opinion on Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates, we all enjoy a laugh on Friday and that's always a winner! -- Sydney Meriwether The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority.
Time to let go of some of your delusions, Sydney....
1. I was not part of the discussion you refer to in your fantasy of "wiping the floor" with me
2. You couldn't wipe the floor if I gave you a mop
3. Unlike you, I have a life outside this website
4. It's time you learned the difference between winning an argument on the merits of your case and the way they are put forward, and grinding people into submission by recycling the same boring rubbish until people can't bear to look at the discussion any more.
Stick to the topic instead of harking back to another discussion that you think you won, despite being on your own.....
Do you ever actually pay any attention to facts and the truth, or are you too busy hiding behind your PC massaging your ego?
Poor, deluded fool, losing your grip on reality - I pity you.
Och well, I didn't think you'd want to mention
Glasgow's plummeting hotel occupancy rates - now officially the fastest falling in the UK!
Just try and get over it and put all this petty bitterness behind you, there's a good wee lad.
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Sydney Meriwether
The voice of Glasgow's silenced majority. Posted by: RapidAssistant, Glasgow on 11:47am Mon 6 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Scott[/bold] wrote:
Must be nearly there, then.[/quote] Scott, do yourself a favour and stop arguing with Mr Meriwether - he's only interested in winding the lot of us up and the best thing all of us could do is stop posting on this forum altogether.
Scott wrote:
Must be nearly there, then.
Scott, do yourself a favour and stop arguing with Mr Meriwether - he's only interested in winding the lot of us up and the best thing all of us could do is stop posting on this forum altogether.
Posted by: marshall conklin, New Jersey, USA on 5:45am Tue 7 Oct 08
How sad to hear of the derelict conditions in Glasgow. I was born in Springburn,then we lived on Carlisle St.
After that we lived in Pollok, I have many fond memories of growing up in Glasgow.
Wishing the city people all the best in the future!
Sandra Conklin
How sad to hear of the derelict conditions in Glasgow. I was born in Springburn,then we lived on Carlisle St.
After that we lived in Pollok, I have many fond memories of growing up in Glasgow.
Wishing the city people all the best in the future!
Sandra Conklin
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