Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 12:00pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Knock them down just another waste of money
Knock them down just another waste of money
Posted by: Brad on 12:07pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]SPAMALOT[/bold] wrote:
Knock them down just another waste of money[/quote] Err, naw.
SPAMALOT wrote:
Knock them down just another waste of money
Err, naw.
Posted by: jrb, glasgow on 12:21pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Residents of Cardonald and the decent tenants of those Flats would be even more pleased if those families who have systamatically decimated the area,and are responsible for much of the crime and anti-social behaviour were not offered tenancies,if they are then it's a complete waste of money as within a short space of time the flats would be worse than ever.
Residents of Cardonald and the decent tenants of those Flats would be even more pleased if those families who have systamatically decimated the area,and are responsible for much of the crime and anti-social behaviour were not offered tenancies,if they are then it's a complete waste of money as within a short space of time the flats would be worse than ever.
Posted by: Heidthebaw, Glasgow on 12:22pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Why waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
Use the money to build better, decent homes for the folk who live there.
The world has moved on from high-rise and they are disappearing, yet the council wants to blow £14m on propping them up.
Thats just short term thinking, as usual, and chucking money down the drain.
I know it takes more than £14m to build new house for everyone, but if they can rehouse them, they must have spare accommodation.
That'd be £14m off the bill for the job.
It seems joined up thinking is beyond the council.
Why waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
Use the money to build better, decent homes for the folk who live there.
The world has moved on from high-rise and they are disappearing, yet the council wants to blow £14m on propping them up.
Thats just short term thinking, as usual, and chucking money down the drain.
I know it takes more than £14m to build new house for everyone, but if they can rehouse them, they must have spare accommodation.
That'd be £14m off the bill for the job.
It seems joined up thinking is beyond the council.
Posted by: Moanin Minnie, Not here on 1:00pm Fri 3 Oct 08
So expect tenants to live in substandard property until housing becomes available?
So expect tenants to live in substandard property until housing becomes available?
Posted by: Brad on 1:43pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote]hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?[/quote]
Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world.
And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.
hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world.
And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.
Posted by: bluey, glasgow on 1:47pm Fri 3 Oct 08
That works out at £70k per property. If the tenants are paying £300 rent per month, it will take them about 20 years worth of rent to pay for that outlay alone, let alone standard maintenance and any future refurbishment programme.
I guess someone has to make a call if the benefits outweigh the fact that the expense is greater than the income from the tenants.
And this isn't just a mathematical calculation but takes into account community cohesion, tenants preferences and so forth.
That works out at £70k per property. If the tenants are paying £300 rent per month, it will take them about 20 years worth of rent to pay for that outlay alone, let alone standard maintenance and any future refurbishment programme.
I guess someone has to make a call if the benefits outweigh the fact that the expense is greater than the income from the tenants.
And this isn't just a mathematical calculation but takes into account community cohesion, tenants preferences and so forth.
Posted by: emma, Glasgow on 2:00pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Some people actually like living in High Rise flats you know - I'm one! If they are properly managed and maintained high rises are great for couples and single people. Families should never have been put in them in the first place. Well done for keeping such an iconic building alive. I'd rather live here than one of the boxes that are being built which look like the same housing in every town. A bit of individuality in what is becoming an architecturally boring city.
Some people actually like living in High Rise flats you know - I'm one! If they are properly managed and maintained high rises are great for couples and single people. Families should never have been put in them in the first place. Well done for keeping such an iconic building alive. I'd rather live here than one of the boxes that are being built which look like the same housing in every town. A bit of individuality in what is becoming an architecturally boring city.
Posted by: Judas, Glasgow on 2:29pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote=Heidthebaw]Why waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ? [/quote]
It happens more than people think. The flats at Broomloan Court are due to be pulled down but that didn't stop them fitting new double glazing to every flat a few years back...
Why waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
It happens more than people think. The flats at Broomloan Court are due to be pulled down but that didn't stop them fitting new double glazing to every flat a few years back...
Posted by: Judas, Glasgow on 2:31pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Heidthebaw[/bold] wrote:
Why waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?[/quote]
It happens more than people think. The flats at Broomloan Court are due to be pulled down but that didn't stop them fitting new double glazing to every flat a few years back...
Heidthebaw wrote:
Why waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
It happens more than people think. The flats at Broomloan Court are due to be pulled down but that didn't stop them fitting new double glazing to every flat a few years back...
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 3:23pm Fri 3 Oct 08
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote:
[quote]hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?[/quote] Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world. And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.[/quote] am moving to vancouver,these flats are beyond repair
Brad wrote:
hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world. And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.
am moving to vancouver,these flats are beyond repair
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 4:59pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Will they spend 14m of quality or will they do what has been seen in at least one GHA referb.
Morris spotting are let's write - crafts men & women who have the higest profit margins from their sub-contractors, judge the work for your-self.
Wrote already that if these High rises were emptied and the tenants vetted prior to entry, any-one remember the old multi-storeys, when you had a proper interview, unlike today were your social worker threatens the housing officer, your GP wades in with unlimited points of ill, the first decade, maybe two decades, they were bliss.
Lets hope they take the decibel meter into a few flats and do some proper analysis of noise, that way tenants can have the maxim sound levels written into their tenancy agreement. Should remove many a excuse.
Will they spend 14m of quality or will they do what has been seen in at least one GHA referb.
Morris spotting are let's write - crafts men & women who have the higest profit margins from their sub-contractors, judge the work for your-self.
Wrote already that if these High rises were emptied and the tenants vetted prior to entry, any-one remember the old multi-storeys, when you had a proper interview, unlike today were your social worker threatens the housing officer, your GP wades in with unlimited points of ill, the first decade, maybe two decades, they were bliss.
Lets hope they take the decibel meter into a few flats and do some proper analysis of noise, that way tenants can have the maxim sound levels written into their tenancy agreement. Should remove many a excuse.
Posted by: Titus a duxas, Ft.McMurray on 8:19pm Fri 3 Oct 08
Jist blow the bassa's up it'll get rid of the Jakeys neds, Hookers all in 1 swift blow,noo where would ye decant them all too?? ah hear Vancouver is open for buisness.
Jist blow the bassa's up it'll get rid of the Jakeys neds, Hookers all in 1 swift blow,noo where would ye decant them all too?? ah hear Vancouver is open for buisness.
Posted by: brian, Vancouver Canada on 9:48am Sat 4 Oct 08
[quote][bold]SPAMALOT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote: [quote]hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?[/quote] Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world. And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.[/quote] am moving to vancouver,these flats are beyond repair[/quote] I moved from Glasgow to Vancouver into a highrise flat and they are all carpeted in the foyer and some have furniture,but somehow i don't think that would last to long in Glasgow highrisers,what a shame we should all deserve to at least live in nice suroundings.
SPAMALOT wrote:
Brad wrote: hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world. And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.
am moving to vancouver,these flats are beyond repair
I moved from Glasgow to Vancouver into a highrise flat and they are all carpeted in the foyer and some have furniture,but somehow i don't think that would last to long in Glasgow highrisers,what a shame we should all deserve to at least live in nice suroundings.
Posted by: SPAMALOT, southside on 12:11pm Sat 4 Oct 08
[quote][bold]brian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]SPAMALOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Brad[/bold] wrote: [quote]hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?[/quote] Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world. And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.[/quote] am moving to vancouver,these flats are beyond repair[/quote] I moved from Glasgow to Vancouver into a highrise flat and they are all carpeted in the foyer and some have furniture,but somehow i don't think that would last to long in Glasgow highrisers,what a shame we should all deserve to at least live in nice suroundings.[/quote] exactly knock the f8ckers down, and move them to govanhill
brian wrote:
SPAMALOT wrote: Brad wrote: hy waste the money on flats they will demolish in a few years. ?
Will they? Not necessarily - depends on the condition. Some high-rises are actually well-built. And popular - look at Anniesland. Or Vancouver, apparently the city with the best quality of life in the world. And it isn't the Cooncil that's doing it.
am moving to vancouver,these flats are beyond repair
I moved from Glasgow to Vancouver into a highrise flat and they are all carpeted in the foyer and some have furniture,but somehow i don't think that would last to long in Glasgow highrisers,what a shame we should all deserve to at least live in nice suroundings.
exactly knock the f8ckers down, and move them to govanhill
Posted by: Aneas Silvas, Roma on 12:12pm Sat 4 Oct 08
In the light of tumbling house prices why does the Council not purchase with its fourteen million cash houses advertised in the selected streets of Jordanhill School catchment area and move the alleged Moss Heights delinquent families there. Once in the school and absorbing its claimed superior educational system, these "neds" could be elevated into a higher level of society and become useful citizens. The idea is hardly new, since in the destitution years of the early 1930s, the former Glasgow Corporation purchased a fair proportion of unsold Jordanhill houses to settle council tenants from its own housing lists.
In the light of tumbling house prices why does the Council not purchase with its fourteen million cash houses advertised in the selected streets of Jordanhill School catchment area and move the alleged Moss Heights delinquent families there. Once in the school and absorbing its claimed superior educational system, these "neds" could be elevated into a higher level of society and become useful citizens. The idea is hardly new, since in the destitution years of the early 1930s, the former Glasgow Corporation purchased a fair proportion of unsold Jordanhill houses to settle council tenants from its own housing lists.